tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post4194495810709200323..comments2023-12-11T06:36:33.525-05:00Comments on NESARA- REPUBLIC NOW - GALACTIC NEWS: ANOTHER CLASSIC MINISTRY OF FRAUDUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger43125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-42164816126786118532016-07-19T16:13:04.769-04:002016-07-19T16:13:04.769-04:00Wrong!I am Nina's big sister. My beautiful, sm...Wrong!I am Nina's big sister. My beautiful, smart sister is a victim of Fred's sociopathy. Just exactly WHICH family member are you?Trudee Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-51644991309632189182015-02-15T02:25:02.366-05:002015-02-15T02:25:02.366-05:00The blame is ill placed. You can't blame Fred...The blame is ill placed. You can't blame Fred & Nina because one lost their homes. You should blame the bank for that or the courts for not following the law. Besides it's all a rigged game anyway. mogel007https://www.blogger.com/profile/14478021516988349417noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-11102628837971281222015-01-09T19:33:01.692-05:002015-01-09T19:33:01.692-05:00I love Nina! Fred and Nina helped me with a crimin...I love Nina! Fred and Nina helped me with a criminal case, did NOT charge me. I won and they certainly taught me more than EFT!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-45630925954482088712014-04-10T11:45:42.939-04:002014-04-10T11:45:42.939-04:00You are a liar Joanne. Once again, not telling the...You are a liar Joanne. Once again, not telling the whole truth. Fred did about $5000 worth of work for you. I guess some people can never get "enough help"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-90271982631094671222014-04-10T11:43:54.988-04:002014-04-10T11:43:54.988-04:005 foreclosures! Wow, sounds like someone was greed...5 foreclosures! Wow, sounds like someone was greedy! The last time someone asked Nina how to deal with 8 foreclosure, she told them to give away 7 of them to people in need, then they would help for free on the house the lady was living in!! Learn before you open your mouth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-45718057327602919482014-04-10T11:41:54.830-04:002014-04-10T11:41:54.830-04:00You are ignorant. Duh, a paycheck is not a debt. L...You are ignorant. Duh, a paycheck is not a debt. Learn before you open your mouthAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-79951143564757584712014-04-10T11:41:03.328-04:002014-04-10T11:41:03.328-04:00I KNOW WHO YOU ARE! GOOD TRY JOHN. I KNOW WHO YOU ARE! GOOD TRY JOHN. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-500339179077062742014-04-10T11:40:17.572-04:002014-04-10T11:40:17.572-04:00This is John Gutierrez again. More lies. And so no...This is John Gutierrez again. More lies. And so not relevant! its incredible, just get a life!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-20102159523032382412014-04-10T11:39:24.764-04:002014-04-10T11:39:24.764-04:00LIELIEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-62245797367894058062014-04-10T11:38:36.532-04:002014-04-10T11:38:36.532-04:00Wrong again. IF the Constitution does not apply to...Wrong again. IF the Constitution does not apply to the people, why do all public servants still swear their oath to it? read it and weep!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-67825412839964528452014-04-10T11:37:14.571-04:002014-04-10T11:37:14.571-04:00That is not Nina's sister. Nina is my family m...That is not Nina's sister. Nina is my family member and that is NOT her sister. Most likely John G. again!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-53870270677801800272014-04-03T01:37:15.758-04:002014-04-03T01:37:15.758-04:00they talked about Frank 3.0. If anyone has a copy ...they talked about Frank 3.0. If anyone has a copy of it please let me know. I just got a judgement against me from Discover Bank (after it had been written off in 2012) and a 3rd Party Debt Collector sued me!Anyway, am thinking of Title 42, need that Frank 3.0 to help me win when I go to court.<br />Jimnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-76186774131089618932013-10-24T16:44:27.738-04:002013-10-24T16:44:27.738-04:00Joseph,
I know you are right. I have been using ...Joseph,<br /><br />I know you are right. I have been using EFTs for a while. I could tell you lots.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-46613313662943895902013-09-20T02:50:37.096-04:002013-09-20T02:50:37.096-04:00I am Afraid I was scammed by Fred and Nina also. I...I am Afraid I was scammed by Fred and Nina also. I paid them through their daughter who was collecting the money at the door, $300 and never got a thing for it. I kept emailing them asking them for my money only to be ignored. it has been almost two years now and they have never replied to me in any way. They are crooks. They are very slick. They certainly know how to play the scam gameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-33116413988669682952013-07-18T00:22:38.473-04:002013-07-18T00:22:38.473-04:00DONT BUY INTO THIS BS FROM FRED AND NINA...ITS A S...DONT BUY INTO THIS BS FROM FRED AND NINA...ITS A SCAM... A FRIEND OF MINE IN WILIMINGTON NC LOST HIS HOME ... FIVE RENTAL PROPERTIES, ETC.. HE DID EVERYTHING EFT'S RECORDINGS, ETC...AS REQUIRED UNDER FRED AND NINA SPECIFICATIONS .... HE EVEN FILED APPEALS WITH STATE COURTS AND HE WAS OVERRULED.. LOST EVERYTHING... MAIN HOME..MILLION IN REAL ESTATE,..JUST MAY LOOSE HIS WIFE AND KIDS... HE TRYING TO FIND A HOME TO RENT...HARD..CREDIT IS SHOT, ETC.. IF YOU BELIEVE FRED AND NINA... MUST BELIEVE IN FARIES, UNICORNS,ETC.. GET REAL FOLKS.. SOUNDS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE...IT IS.. FRED AND NINA GOT RICH OFF GREED AND STUPIDITY... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-86530894558052386482013-07-18T00:16:04.250-04:002013-07-18T00:16:04.250-04:00As of this week a good a good friend of mine in Wi...As of this week a good a good friend of mine in Wilmington, Nc...who belived in this EFT Fred & Nina "shit" there selling has lost his home and five rental properties...banks foreclosed... he even appealed to foreclosure rulings ...was over-ruled .... all properties are gone.. life time of work... wife just may divorce him...they must find a home to rent by mid August...foreclosure sale date on this family home... If it's to good to be true...it is.. come on folks..if you believe this BS of fred and nina...u must believe in unicorns...faries, easter bunny .... etc.. CRAZY.. NOTHING IS FREE!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-1237090336583359322013-02-10T15:13:27.572-05:002013-02-10T15:13:27.572-05:00Fred and Nina's technology is sound and works ...Fred and Nina's technology is sound and works if you know how to defend it. It is supported by law. The problem is that too many people want a quick fix and don't want to do what they have to do. You must understand the law behind it so that you can follow through...and you MUST follow through. Fred's theory is that "all roads lead to court" so you must keep track of things in that way. I agree that you should always be prepared for court but I completely disagree that all roads lead to court. It's still about jurisdiction and we DO NOT have to grant jurisdiction.<br /><br />I have a few gripes about Fred and Nina as well, which is why I've chosen not to follow them anymore. Most are the same things others are saying. My biggest gripe is that they discourage others from looking into other technologies while not explaining at all why their technology works (except for citing laws). I think they're doing a major disservice by leaving out such crucial information. I also believe that if you're going to be sharing the type of info they are, then you have to be accessible to those following you. Fred and Nina are most likely just very busy, which is why they don't respond, but they should make it clear that they are hard to reach instead of acting like they're just an e-mail away. They should also give more warnings about their technology and the fact that people should be 100% ready to defend this process if they do it, instead of making it seem like theirs is a silver bullet and the only remedy and simple to do. Functioning in commerce is NOT simple and takes a lot of study. Also, I've been to a couple of seminars and they're poorly facilitated. He says he's going to discuss this and that, and by the end he never gets to it.<br /><br />All in all I think they mean well and really are trying to help people. I don't believe they're the frauds people want to think they are. It isn't their responsibility to make sure people aren't foreclosed upon. It's our individual responsibility. I'm sick of people blaming others for their problems. That's such BS.<br /><br />Still, I think they could do things differently. Speaking of personal responsibility, it's their own actions that have created a situation of distrust and lack of credibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-53328052975493987552013-02-08T10:53:05.120-05:002013-02-08T10:53:05.120-05:00These are great responses, Joseph. I especially li...These are great responses, Joseph. I especially like this one "Do you think everyone that is arrested is guilty?" Most people have no clue about the commercial system or the many methods of commercial redemption and set off. The EFT is not my preferable choice but I fully understand the process and why it is fully legal (and lawful). Arguing with Fraud Finder about this stuff is like arguing with a janitor about how to perform surgery (and you're the doctor, lol).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-61136693884458668662013-02-05T04:52:50.903-05:002013-02-05T04:52:50.903-05:00Fred and Nina Gutierrez now confirmed over 85 Mill...Fred and Nina Gutierrez now confirmed over 85 Million in Debt Gone.<br /><br /> So if it was fraud then why has he not been arrested for his siminars using this info.<br /> <br /> There only working out the details as they go; and things stop working.<br /><br /> This amount above explains why all these people will point out all these other things to discredit Fred.<br /> and if you are stupid; like attempting to remove your morgage and get caught. You deserve what you get.Your the scammer attempting to scam.<br /> You use the services you owe the money !!!! If a atm gives me money I did not ask for I will take it; then there to big for there own good giving machines authority over there goods; and they then deserve it./. As fred says if I barrow from Paul; I dont pay Peter the debit; because I have nothing to do with Peter. IRS scam sell the debit to a collection agency the buyer does not collect and files a loss for that year. Child of Lighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14270484499876578734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-62932448493139019832012-12-13T17:01:21.021-05:002012-12-13T17:01:21.021-05:00Well joseph, I am sorry to say that what is being ...Well joseph, I am sorry to say that what is being said about fred and nina is true. I have a friend that is knee deep in foreclosures - 5 to be exact. See, the problem is: people will believe anything if it offers then a way out of an undesirable situation. My friend is not uneducated in any way. This is what makes this situation so bewildering. How could anyone or group convince a person of sound mind to stop paying there bills and expect to survive by writing bad checks? Thats' not being soveriegn, but rather digging oneself deeper into debt slavery! True sovereignty is turning your back on a system that is corrupt and unfair. You set yourself free by creating something different, not by circumventing. I am not at liberty to give out someone elses personal information. I assure you that the eft process does not hold up in court. One reason is that it is foreign to the courts and the fititous money generated by a bad check from a closed account cannot be traced! Tell me, would it be ok if your employer paid you with a bad check and when the check bounces, the employer insist that he paid you and is willing to go to court to prove it - THAT IS PSYCHOPATHIC!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-24247654175616906622012-12-10T03:05:03.339-05:002012-12-10T03:05:03.339-05:00Fraud Finder: Do you think everyone that is arres...Fraud Finder: Do you think everyone that is arrested is guilty? LOL<br />How naive can you get? Do you also think that all warrants are valid? What does an incorporation being revoked, IF TRUE, have to do with the legitimacy of an EFT? I've already shown you that an EFT has worked to discharge an IRS debt of $41,000, even though you have proven no proof of your allegations! I guess if you repeat lies enough times, people accept them as being true. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920259640077224299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-91953184297811236272012-12-10T03:01:09.284-05:002012-12-10T03:01:09.284-05:00Fraud Finder: I doubt that you work for a bank, b...Fraud Finder: I doubt that you work for a bank, because an EFT is not a check. They are two separate type of instruments. Checks can be deposited, an EFT instrument has on it, "not for deposit", so again you don't know what you are talking about. <br /><br />If you work for a bank, you must be just a teller or someone lower in the bank, as you know very little about banking and what instruments are used and accepted in banking. <br /><br />If you have a "set off" the debt is discharged, and the contract is fulfilled, and you owe nothing.<br /><br />Banks aren't stupid, they know what these instruments are, and they know they are valid.<br /><br />What is happening when they reverse the accounting, is that the money goes to pay off the debt, and then the monies are diverted and transferred to a high executive in the bank to their personal bank account and they blame the accounting being reversed since the person used a closed checking account to discharge debt. If you followed the money trail, you would see that the banks are committing fraud when they reverse these payments. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920259640077224299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-2294550339721444752012-12-10T02:54:25.178-05:002012-12-10T02:54:25.178-05:00Fraud Finder: If an EFT was reversed, it is the b...Fraud Finder: If an EFT was reversed, it is the banks that are violating the law as a "reverse bank wire" by definition CANNOT BOUNCE, AND THE BANK CANNOT LEGALLY DO A "CHARGE BACK":<br /><br />http://tinyurl.com/9qgye9q<br /><br />If a "charge back" is done by the bank, THEY ARE THE ONE'S VIOLATING THE LAW, AND CAN BE SUED.<br /><br />Also cite me the court cases where banks have sued an individual for issuing an EFT?<br /><br />If you can't provide those, you've lied again. <br /><br />And you can't "live off the EFT program" as it's purpose is to "discharge debt", not to buy things, so again your ignorance is showing. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920259640077224299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-85779532824268228712012-12-10T02:44:08.200-05:002012-12-10T02:44:08.200-05:00Fraud Finder: A check is not an EFT; they are two...Fraud Finder: A check is not an EFT; they are two different financial instruments. That shows your lack of intelligence right there. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920259640077224299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2471513656433144696.post-54418340046494230582012-12-10T02:38:41.152-05:002012-12-10T02:38:41.152-05:00Fraud Finder: Prove what you say, and don't d...Fraud Finder: Prove what you say, and don't discuss "non-issues", and also explain this below if you believe falsely that EFT instruments are fraud by using a "closed checking account":<br />The Court and Black’s Law 3rd Edition has defined the purpose of a “closed account”: “An account to which no further additions can be made on either side, but which remains still open for adjustment and set off which distinguishes it from an account stated. Bass v. Bass 8 Pick. (Mass.) 1w87; Volkening v. De Graaf, 81 N.Y. 268; Mandeville v Wilson, 5 Cranch 15, 3 L. Ed. 23. <br /><br />All that is being done when an EFT is being issued off a closed checking account, not an "open account", which is an "account stated" is<br />adjustment and set off. Set off is affiliated with "discharge of debt". It's not illegal, but is recognized as legal in Black's law and in the courts. So I don't care about any allegations of a scam, or warrants, or arrests or any other nonsense you want to post that is not related to truth, fact, evidence, and law. What you are saying is totally irrelevant to the facts. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09920259640077224299noreply@blogger.com