Wednesday, November 20, 2013

Barry Seal, the CIA camp in Lacombe, & the JFK Assassination

Barry Seal, the CIA camp in Lacombe, & the JFK Assassination

It was in the sun-drenched Albuquerque study of one of America's most prominent historians—a Guggenheim Fellow and a National Book Award winner—that I first heard what I later came to think of as "The Question."
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Enroute from Los Angeles to New Orleans, where I would spend the next two years researching and writing a book about renowned CIA pilot-turned-infamous drug smuggler Barry Seal, I stopped to visit Dr. Roger Morris and Sally Denton, the writers who first brought serious national attention to the CIA operation in Mena, Arkansas led by Oliver North, and Barry Seal.
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We were drinking cokes in the warm sun and exchanging tidbits of information each of us had gleaned about our common subject, when at one point Morris leaned forward.
“What have you heard,” he asked, “about Barry Seal having flown a get-away plane out of Dallas after the Kennedy assassination?”  
I stared at him blankly. I replied that I didn’t know there had even been a get-away plane. And that was the end of it. The conversation quickly moved on.  But the moment changed my life. In the two years of research which followed, I never forgotthe question.
Months later, while collecting old news clippings in Barry’s hometown of Baton Rouge, Louisiana, I struck up a conversation about Seal with the morgue librarian at the Baton Rouge Advocate. She had a kind of smoky whiskey voice you generally don't associate with librarians.

"Its another world, New Orleans"

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We shared a few anecdotes about Seal. Then, unbidden, she told me, “My ex-husband, who was ‘connected,’ told me that Barry Seal flew a getaway plane out of Dallas after JFK was killed."
"How long ago?" we demanded. "How long ago did he tell you? When did you hear about this?'
"Hell, she said, “a good 20 years. I've been remarried for ten."

Later, after I heard a story  about Barry Seal from John Odom, a friend and classmate of Seal’s in high school, I began to realize that the rumor might be something more than that.  While it wasn’t common knowledge, in certain circles in Louisiana it is what is known as an “open secret.”

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“One Friday evening, while we were in high school, I got a call from Barry,” Odom began, “asking if I'd like to fly with him in themorning over to Lacombe, a little town on the north shore across Lake Pontchatrain from New Orleans,"
“We left about 5.30 A.M. and flew over to the little airport there. And when we got off the plane there was a guy on the tarmac dressed all in black: black military fatigues, black boots, a black beret. He was sitting in a director's chair, drilling a bunch of Civil Air Patrol cadets, all carrying the old M1 rifles, standing in formation in front of him.”
“His name was David Ferrie. He was a captain in the Louisiana Civil Air Patrol. And he had fake eyebrows, real weird, with one eyebrow turned up at a 45-degree angle. I laughed when I saw him. And Barry didn’t like that, and told me to stay by the plane or he wouldn't let me fly back with him to Baton Rouge.”

Big shout out to Oliver Stone

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Even if  you’re not a JFK assassination researcher—and I wasn’t—you know who Ferrie was. Everyone’s seen Joe Pesci’s brilliant portrayal of Ferrie in Oliver Stone’s JFK. Many recall that Ferrie – just forty-eight hours after Kennedy died—was brought in for questioning on suspicion that he had been involved in the assassination.
Odom watched them confer, he said, and saw Ferrie point to the 50-or-so wooden crates staged next to the tarmac.
On the way back to Baton Rouge, Barry Seal told him that he was working for Ferrie, who he said was "CIA.”  (Ferrie's CIA link was confirmed by Victor Marchetti, former Deputy Assistant to Richard Helms, who testified that Helms disclosed, in executive discussions during the Garrison investigation, that Ferrie had in fact been employed by the CIA.)
“Seal said he making $400 a week flying "runs" of crates of weapons and ordinance for Ferrie,” said Odom. He asked me, How'd you like to make that kind of money?”
Odom said he told Barry, 'I'll think about it.'  But they never discussed it again. Decades later, the incident remains puzzling to Odom. "Our dad made about $400 a month back then, and we weren't poor, but I was stunned and didn't know what to say.”
Translated into today's money, Barry Seal was making $2500 weekly…on the weekends.

A piece of real history slipped through the cracks

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Then a fortuitous happenstance brought me a photograph that spoke volumes about Barry Seal's career, and the people involved in the JFK assassination.
Seal left it to his wife, Debbie, now his widow. And despite the 7-man "clean-up crew" from the State Department that came down from Washington to her home and combed through all of Barry's records in early 1995, it is still in her possession. The photo, which she considered a keepsake, remained untouched in her safe.
The photo was in a cardboard frame of the kind used by nightclubs and tourist attractions, with the date it was taken, January 22,1963, stamped on the back. It was taken in the nightclub of the Aristos Hotel in Mexico City’s Zona Rosa.
At the time the photo was taken, the CIA's covert action chief in Mexico City was David Atlee Phillips. Philips, AKA Maurice Bishop, reportedly met with Oswald in Dallas before the assassination.
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The photo shows a group of ten men, wearing black suits and skinny ties, drinking around a table. They appear to be a mixed group of Cuban exiles, Italian wise guys, and square-jawed military intelligence types.
Identifying the men in the photo took months. And when I had, I realized that it is the only extant photograph of the members of  the CIA’s super-secret assassination squad known as “Operation Forty."
A young (24-year old) Barry Seal is seated third from left.  Seated to Seal’s right is former CIA chief Porter Goss. Front left, beside Goss, is the notorious Cuban "freedom fighter" Felix Rodriguez.  Rodriguez, a vice cop under the corrupt Mob-run Batista regime in Cuba, later became an Iran Contra operative and a confidant of the first George Bush.
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Felix Rodriguez has long been known to be one of the CIA's most vicious assassins. According to law enforcement authorities, he keeps Che Guevara's hands in a jar atop his dresser. 
On the other side of the table, the only celebrant displaying any regard for tradecraft is  covering his face with his sport coat. However, his swept-back “Big Wave in Hawaii” pompadour made him fairly easily identifiable as Frank Sturgis. Sturgis has often been mentioned in connection with the JFK assassination.
Sturgis will later become famous as one of the Watergate burglars.Beside him, front right, is a man well-known among Kennedy assassination researchers.  William Seymour was the New Orleans representative of the Double-Chek Corporation, a CIA front used to recruit pilots (like Seal).  Researchers identify Seymour as the man said to have impersonated Lee Harvey Oswald, while Oswald was out of the country.
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It is certainly a well-connected group. Just the fact that the man who will become the biggest drug smuggler in American history had been  consorting back in 1963 with a man whose job was recruiting pilots for the CIA makes allegations of CIA involvement in the drug trade far more than just another conspiracy theory.
So, if there had been a get-away plane flown out of Dallas after the Kennedy assassination—and assuming there had been an authentic investigation into the assassination, which there was not—Barry Seal would have been high on the list when authorities told the police to call in the “usual suspects.”
But that puts the cart somewhat in front of the horse. Is there evidence that there was a get-away plane?  The answer is yes.

Three men in suits at Redbird Airport

RedbirdAirportAt about 1:00 P.M. that same afternoon, half an hour after the president was shot, neighbors who lived along the road that runs by the Redbird Airport, about 10 miles southwest of downtown Dallas, began calling the police.  A small private plane, they reported, was behaving very strangely.  
For an hour it had been revving its engines, not on the runway, as per usual, but parked at the end of the airstrip on a grassy area next to the fence. The noise was so loud it prevented nearby residents, glued to their TVs for the news about the terrible event downtown, from hearing.
The police, perhaps understandably, were too busy to check it out. The question became moot when shortly thereafter  the plane took off. 
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An FBI file of March 10, 1967, describes statements made by Louis Gaudin, the government's air traffic control specialist at Redbird airport, who recalled observing three men in business suits board a Comanche-type aircraft at about 2:00 P.M.
Thirty-seven years later, I  tracked down Louis Gaudin in retirement in the tiny town of Long Branch, Texas. “I filed that report in ’67 for only one reason,” Gaudin told me. “Sometime in 1967 I received a visit from an Assistant District Attorney in (New Orleans District Attorney) Jim Garrison’s office.”
“He showed me pictures of four possible pilots involved in the incident that day. One was a weird-looking character with a funny-looking wig. Then, shortly thereafter I saw on the news that David Ferrie had committed suicide, said Gaudin.
“That’s when I smelled a rat.”
Redbird Airport (today Dallas Executive Airport) is  a  small airfield between Dallas  and  Fort Worth. But it wasn’t just any old airport.
“The  FAA  had  its  general  aviation  headquarters there, said Gaudin.  “Howard Hughes had a huge old WWII hanger there, with heavy security. People from Wackenhut all over the place. And there were the Porter planes from General Harry Byrd’s outfit.”
MDByrde3General D. Harry Byrd’s links to the Kennedy assassination begin with the fact that he owned the building, the Texas School Book Depository, from which Kennedy was supposedly gunned down.
Then, too, he founded an aircraft company that became one of the largest U.S. defense contractors during the Vietnam War, Ling-Temco-Vought (LTV), which also—and perhaps not coincidentally?—tested missiles at the Venice Airport in the late 1950’s and early 1960’s.
“What had happened was this,” he continued. “I was an air traffic controller working in the tower at Redbird that day. When I came on shift at 2 PM,  we received a bulletin to report any suspicious activity immediately to an FAA Security number. And we kept calling that number all afternoon, but got nothing but a busy signal. And then, after we heard they had caught the ‘lone gunman,’ I guess they called it, we stopped calling, and let the matter drop.”
From his perch atop the control tower, Mr. Gaudin, between handling twenty or thirty flights into and out of the airport an hour, had noticed something suspicious about three well-dressed men  in business suits standing, along with several suitcase,  beside a Comanche painted green-and-white.
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So suspicious was he, Mr. Gaudin related, that when the plane took off on runway 17, he asked the pilot if he needed anyassistance. The pilot said no. Gaudin asked which way the plane was heading. The pilot stated south.
Gaudin watched as the plane flew south for two miles, then made a hard left, and then flew north to Love Field.
The pilot had lied.
Suspicions aroused, Gaudin went over to the control tower’s receiver and listened as the plane made an approach and landed at Love Field, eight miles north of Redbird.
An hour later, the plane was back at Redbird. This time only two people were aboard. The third passenger—let’s call him the shooter–had been left at Love Field.

James Garrison, American hero

jim-garrisonAnd that’s where the matter rested until Garrison’s investigator’s came calling. 
Then, after Gaudin became alarmed at the death of a man whose picture he had just recently been shown, he called the FBI, and filed the report which, he said, became something of a burden to him for the rest of his life.
“There was no Freedom of Information Act back then,” he says today. “That’s what’s  created some problems for me.”
This would be just a ‘suspicious sighting’ except for something that happened later, which clearly indicated to Gaudin that he was a witness to something he had no business seeing.
From the control tower, he says, he was too far away to be able to identify anyone who boarded the plane. But there was one person who could: Merrit Goble, who ran the fixed-wing operation, TexAir, at Redbird Field.
“Merrit and I were friends,” Gaudin relates. “So one day, after filing the FBI report, I went down to see if the FBI had been by to visit him as well. They hadn’t, he told me. So I asked him if he had anything, any gas receipts, any record of the fueling of the plane in question. And Merit acted very strangely. He told me, in effect, that it was none of my business. He said, ‘I will only answer questions from a bonafide law enforcement authority.’”
“I always thought that was strange: ‘I will only answer questions from a bonafide law enforcement authority.’ Because like I said, we were friends.”
Merrit Goble died last year, taking any secrets he possessed about the suspicious plane to his grave.

Means, Motive, Opportunity

 young-sealWas Barry Seal at the controls of the plane that took off from Redbird Airport on November 22 1963? We’ll never know for sure. But lacking an eyewitness willing to come forward and enough of a survivalist to live to tell his tale, we base a “yes” answer on his association with—and proximity to—the major players whose names get bandied about in connection with the assassination.
The central thesis of most writers on the  assassination is that the Kennedy assassination was the work of the Mafia, elements of the CIA, and right-wing Cuban exiles aligned with Guy Banister, Clay Shaw, and David Ferrie, all of whom were CIA-connected. Not to mention Lee Oswald, who had formed an alliance with the U.S. intelligence community as a young man in the Civil Air Patrol with David Ferrie.
Barry Seal knew them all.
He was a known associate of the ‘usual suspects’: David Ferrie, Carlos Marcello, Guy Banister, and Grady Partin. He was a gunrunner to Cuba, and a veteran of the Bay of Pigs. And his participation in Operation 40, the CIA’s assassination squad, the blackest of black ops, as attested by the photo taken in Mexico in January 1963.
guy-bAbout one longtime associate of Banister and Ferrie (Murray Kessler)  who was busted with Barry in 1972, one DEA agent said, “He (Kessler) had a lot of familiarity with that group of ‘yahoos’ in New Orleans; that’s how I figure he met Barry, who was known to have been involved with Guy Banister and Ferrie back then too.” 
Moreover, Barry Seal was a spectacular pilot, one of the best alive.
I believe Seal flew that ‘getaway’ plane out of Dallas; and that during his often-acrimonious dealings with his superiors, his participation in the JFK hit remained his ‘ace in the hole’ for the rest of his life.
But where did the shooters come from? I’ll take that up tomorrow, in “The Camp in Lacombe.” As far as I know, I’m the only investigator in recent times who was able to locate—and visit—the site of the CIA’s secret camp for assassins in Lacombe, Louisiana.

What do the 9/11 attack and the Kennedy assassination cover-ups have in common?

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Mis-direction. On 9/11, New York City was where most of the killing took place. It took maybe an hour. In Venice, Florida, where the key conspirators got together, they spent more than a year.  Yet there’s been endless talk—leading absolutely nowhere—about thermite, about holograms, about Building 7. And its all hooey, or, to use the technical term, disinformation.
Why I’m so sure is because I was the only investigative reporter at the biggest 9/11 crime scene—Venice—that wasn’t reduced to rubble. And I was continually made aware that I didn’t belong—and wasn’t wanted—there.
The Kennedy assassination set the pattern. Debating the minutiae of Dallas—the ‘magic bullet theory,’ the changing parade route, the standing down of military intelligence, and dozens of other unexplained anomalies—has proven only that a conspiracy had indeed taken place.
But it was never going to put anyone in jail. Because the conspiracy was elsewhere. In New Orleans, Chicago, Miami, on No Name Key, and. most especially, in Lacombe, Louisiana, where the CIA kept a secret camp which trained  assassins.
Moreover the conspirators were pros. The Kennedy assassination was their calling card.  Unlike the “big find” about the identity of the second shooter which one prominent author is currently using to flog his book—who was told by a friend of a friend of a guy who had it on good authority that so-and-so, who’s now, regrettably, dead, was in on the hit— they didn’t disappear from history after November 23, 1963.
 For the next several decades, the people who killed JFK made history. In Laos, and Cambodia, at the Watergate complex, and in the drug trafficking scandal that was mis-named Iran Contra.
They were people like Barry Seal.  

All of The Best Years in Life's Anti-Cancer Resource Links on One Page

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All of The Best Years in Life's Anti-Cancer Resource Links on One Page
Posted By: Dquixote1217 [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 20-Nov-2013 11:31:32

I decided to put links to all of our websites cancer articles on a single page. Holy cow! I knew I had written a lot - including a book, but really had no idea just how much! Now, all of the articles aren't mine, but the very large majority are. Still working on the page, haven't put the articles in final order, etc. but here is a sneak preview:
Cancer Alternatives
Beating and avoiding cancer naturally and effectively
http://www.tbyil.com/Cancer_Alternatives.htm

6 truths to know when choosing a bank

6 truths to know when choosing a bank

By Constance Gustke • Bankrate.com
Banking » 6 Truths To Know When Choosing A Bank
Should you trust your banker to watch out for you?
Not always. They have incentives and goals to meet, such as referring a specified number of clients each month to a department that handles mortgages or car loans, says Robert Laura, president of Synergos Financial Group in Howell, Mich.
The dilemma: A banker's bottom line may not be the same as yours. "For banks, it's about gaining wallet share," Laura says.
The remedy is to know exactly what banking products you need. Here are six things to keep in mind when shopping for a bank.
Deep pockets get deeper rates. Many bank programs have tiered interest rates for higher deposits, Laura says. For example, jumbo certificates of deposit, which usually have $100,000 minimum deposits, typically offer higher yields than CDs in smaller amounts, he says. "Bankers want to capture more dollars," Laura says.
Multimillion-dollar clients may even get additional insurance over the $250,000 deposit limit per bank set by Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. How? A bank may offer a Certificate of Deposit Account Registry Service, or CDARS, says Greg McBride, CFA, senior financial analyst at Bankrate. Banks belonging to the CDARS network let wealthy investors spread large CD deposits among different banks while still being insured.
Currently, more than 3,000 financial institutions -- largely medium and small banks -- offer this extra insurance protection.
Overseas banking is costly. If you plan to travel often, beware of extra ATM costs. Bank of America belongs to the Global ATM Alliance, which offers free ATM withdrawals internationally at member banks. This can reduce fees overseas if you have an account at one of those banks. But banks that don't belong to the alliance may charge processing fees that quickly add up.
In certain countries, you might be charged differently when using a debit card versus the credit card side of a debit card. Ask your bank what these additional fees might be before you travel overseas.
Beware, you may not see these fees until you get your monthly statement, says Paul Schaus, president of bank consulting firm CCG Catalyst in Phoenix. "Read your account disclosure statement before you go," he says.
Your bank branch manager is your friend. Longtime customers with multiple accounts can secure better account deals, such as getting fees waived or nabbing higher yields, McBride says. "And branch managers have the power to negotiate them," he adds.
Some banks even have overdraft fee-waiver policies, granting a set number of two or three each year. Still, repeat offenders are less likely to get waivers.
Also, online banking customers may get better terms than in-branch bank customers. The reason is the bank's lower cost of service online, which can be passed along to customers, McBride says.
"Everything is negotiable," Laura says. "You may get a 5- or 10-basis-point increase on a CD yield, if you ask."
Schaus says smaller banks and credit unions are the most likely to give higher rates and waivers. "When dealing with big banks, you're just a number," he says.
Credit card default rates can bite. Banks may charge an annual percentage rate on a credit card as high as 30 percent, Laura says. And reasons for the high rate run the gamut, from missing a payment window by just one day or skipping a payment. To find out what penalties can be levied, check the credit card pamphlet that states terms and conditions, he says.
"When reading it, you may wonder why anyone uses a credit card," he says.
Package deals may not be deals at all. Relationship pricing, where banks reward consumers with multiple accounts, may be more beneficial for consumers than just stand-alone bank accounts, McBride says. "But you still need to shop around," he says. "Compare each account against the competition."
Bankers may hold the upper hand in disputes. Some banks put clauses in their contracts that mandate the use of arbitration rather than jury trials when disputes arise.
"Banks would rather go through arbitration than trials, because jury members see deep pockets when judging a company," Schaus says. Arbitrators tend to compromise more, he says.
Bankrate's McBride offers this final tip: Become an educated consumer, so you can discern a good offer from a less competitive one.

Loechin Live Update

Loechin Live Update

YES YES YES this is the end. I never read dinar guru but thought I would cruse through there this evening. I am amazed that some guru's don't have a clue what really has happened in the last week. I want to call them out for all their misinformation but that's just not in my nature. The rate has been released in Iraq and it has risen to the needed rate. The reason we needed it to increase is because that's what the Global Reset was built around. A certain rate had to be reached. Some just don't want to see the whole picture but will only focus on a part but not the whole.

As I write this tonight I wait only for the release of the 800 numbers. I trust you are going over the steps that you have laid out in your plan because in the next few hours you might have to start on that same list.

Now to somewhat of a serious matter. Many of you when the starter pistol sounds will want to just FORGET the rules and run to the bank. I'm asking you to please refrain from that and make your appointment gather your currency and wait for that desired appointment. We need to avoid a bottleneck of sorts, agreeded ? Also after you exchange remember the NDA and follow what was in it. Talk to no one !!!!!!

Last, don't let people who have no idea where we are ruffle your feathers. The rate did hit the needed number, CL did say while in Iraq that she would not leave unless the RV was finished and she did leave with the RV completed, and we have overwhelming info confirmed that we are now looking for any second, did you get that any second for the release. I was told today by the UST, IMF, and the Banks that they would not tell when it would happen for us because of the Surprise.... So enjoy your evening, I think it might be your last one being broke.


This is Respect.

2 minutes ; no words; says it all
Thanks Marje for great videos
Tuesday, November 19th, 2013
Let’s push past our comfort zone when we bring love out into the world.  
Too often we hold back because it doesn’t feel socially acceptable.  
Let’s redefine socially acceptable and enable the whole world to feel our love, God’s love, the One love.
--Steve Farrell

"Be the change you wish to see in the world." — Gandhi



Wow!  This one got to me . . . . .
This is Respect.

Not a word spoken, and none needed.

Very few videos deserve to go viral . . . . . . .

This one does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoABty_zE00       


 

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Late Tuesday PM Special TNT Tony CC Recorded Link and Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

Subject: TNT DINAR LATE NIGHT TUESDAY CALL NOTES & LINK


Late Tuesday PM Special TNT Tony CC Recorded Link and Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U

11/20/2013

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TNT CALL STARTING NOW......

T = TONY - Call will be for 1 hour only.

T - Good evening, TNT Dinar. You know it's something special or I wouldn't have called this call. You guys are being really bad, on the board, asking for info, news, etc. I have info you are looking for, what you've been waiting for your whole life.

T - There were some big meetings today in Iraq. This is what you want to hear. Plus, some things on how to protect yourself nationwide. I've been asked to tell you this by some agencies so you'll understand what I'm telling you.
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T-I've been asked to tell you that you must be under control. Act like you've been in a bank before, that you've been in a line before, that you've had money before. Some of you will be investigated based on the amounts you have. They are actually already targeting a segment of people.

T - They are going to do some investigations, remove some people, looking for people. I'm trying to get all this out front not to scare you but to warn you. Hopefully - what is planned right at this moment - today the called in bank people, sent them home, then 30 minutes called them all back in, waiting for something to happen. They have planned for something to happen. The banks have the 800#s, but I don't. I was told I should receive them in the early morning hours. This may change. Go to sleep because you'll be up early.

 T - I don't think it's going to happen tonight, but they are planning for you to be at the banks tomorrow. That's the plan right now. They're trying to get 5M people done in 5 days. If you get an 800#, call that number. Those people have 2 minutes - reiterated today - to make your appointment. They will either hang up or pass you to a supervisor if you take too long on the call. You don't need to ask questions about bank accounts, setting up accounts, etc. They do not have those answers. What they do is you go here or here, your name, email address, how much do you have. Now here are the 2 options they'll offer you. The next time you talk to someone is at your bank appointment.

T - I told you to use a new email address, a new computer, etc. so you're not attached to anyone on this board, on the internet, etc. They have leveled the playing field so they can get 5M people processed in 5 days. The exchanger's rates WILL BE competitive with the banks. They will be notified sometime between now and tomorrow morning that you will fill out an NDA. You will sign an NDA and you will not transfer ANY foreign currency without signing the NDA.

T - If somebody walks into the bank driving a bucket, an old car that barely runs (excuse the profiling), raggedly pants, uncouth, etc., holding 1M dinar, he's getting investigated. Dress appropriately when you go to the bank. You don't have to wear a 3-piece suit, but dress appropriately. Go with your peeps who've never had a bank account before. You guys with the billions, trillions of dinar, you will be audited and have to show receipts for your currencies after the masses have gone through. They will audit and require receipts. This could go all the way to July, August of next year. KEEP YOUR RECEIPTS - even after you exchange. You will need them for the audit that most of us will go through.

T - We should have the 800#s in the morning. The rates will be competitive. The banks will determine whether to cashout 1 $25K note or 4 $25K notes. They have that option. Walk into the bank and ask them. We don't know how they'll do the NDAs with the exchangers, but hopefully they'll have that worked out in the morning. The NDA is SERIOUS. They will look at making examples of people. Today they stressed to me how serious the NDA is, especially as fas as you talking to your family and friends. They will go after drug dealers, anybody else involved in criminal activities.

T - They want you to be CALM. Don't be rushing to the banks at one time. They're trying to make this go orderly. It will start with us then trickle out to the other. There is no "company line." Just don't say anything!! Some of you who go to Vegas will be able to say "look what I won." And it's a reason they have money in their pocket. But they are taking it seriously. There are a couple of news outlets that will carry some countries and their economic growth. You won't be part of it. There are designated news locations that will take care of that already setup.

T - After your cash-in you can make an appointment and go back to change your bank account. Banks change rates differently. Chase changes there's at 7AM every morning, they all change them at different times of the day. So none of them will give you a rate over the phone. So just because we post the opening rate when you get there it may be different. Not dollars, but pennies, nickels, etc. But I can tell you the rates will go down quickly, not 15-20 days. But not $5, $10, $20 a day. But they will go down gradually.

T - The Big 4 banks are ready. It will take a little longer for the Tier 2 banks to be ready. If you're out in the west, for example, even though you call the 800# they may not be ready. When you go in, the bank tellers won't know. The branch managers won't know. They'll be briefed in the morning. Don't get mad if they have to make a call or get approval. Those who go in first will face this. In the beginining they won't know as much as you know and they're on the wrong side of the counter. Don't get mad at them!! Understand what they're going through as they talk to you. Make it as smooth as possible. It's not their fault. Remember, those Marshals and law enforcement officers in the banks are on their side and you will be asked to leave and will put on a list.

T - In Iraq they did get to the rate they needed to. There will not be any big announcements. Right now they're telling them in the mosques that on Thursday evening they will be explaining everything to them. Their celebrations will be a couple of days afterwards. Those things they said would need to happen will be announced afterwards.

T - You can only expect to hear that some military guys were fortunate over there. But the big thing tonight is that the NDA IS SERIOUS. They want the masses acting right. Otherwise, you will be escorted out the door.

T - Taxes - put 50% away for taxes, 25% away to do work for you, 25% for you to spend. They're trying to get a 10% tax in place but it hasn't been passed. They fully-expect you to be broke in 2 years or less. They expect you to go through this money like water. DO NOT BE THAT GUY - IT WILL HURT YOU THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. It's only for 90 days, until February. We should know by the end of December the tax rate, but put the 50% away until we know.

T - I really didn't expect to see this until sunrise tomorrow morning. I didn't expect them to call the bank people back in tonight either. We can't do anything about it anyway. I'm going to sleep until they call with the 800#s numbers. We'll then schedule another call 30 minutes later. It'll be put on the site and I'll share an additional info at that time. The reason I'm doing this call tonight is to share this info with you so you'll not miss it when the RV call comes in.

Q&A STARTING NOW...


 [FLPatriot59] Q - What about cashing out a $25K note not at your own bank? A - You don't have to go back to your bank. If you don't have an account there, I'm sure they'll open one for you. If you have people like this who don't have an account already, you may want to go with them and help them out. That's what I wanted to do tonight - make sure you're calm and know that everything won't work right. It may not be smooth, but you can control that. You can be happy, even if the employees aren't.

T - They DO NOT want you going in groups to the bank. Go 1 or 2 together to help each other. Just don't go in groups, i.e., 10-20 family members. Don't draw attention to yourself. If you see a big line, go to another bank.

T - This system was put in place for people who DO NOT have reserves. If you have hard currency make your appointment and let them know what you have in reserves. The banks are not going to hold the rates for you. Make sure whoever you get your currency from will lock in your rate. They're trying to get all the hard currency through the system as fast as possible.

Q - Difference between call center and cashout center. A - The call center will set your appointment. They have 2 minutes to set it up with you. Don't ask them questions because they can't answer them. They have quotas to meet, so don't waste their time asking questions. The Exchange Center/Cashout Center, they have 20 minutes scheduled for your appointment. They'd prefer you go to a bank where you already have an account set up. If not, they will set up a Premiere Account for you and have you work on the rest with your wealth manager at another appointment.

Q - Will the IQD have a different rate than the IQN and will the NDA apply to both at the exchange? A - I don't know because they're going with the IQN and VNN. I would not ask for IQD. The NDA applies to ALL currencies. I don't think the banks will supply you with a copy of the NDA (blank) to review beforehand.

T - I'm doing this now because we expect to see this tomorrow before the sun rises. That is the plan. Whenever it is, I wanted you guys to already have this info. Be planning, know how you're going to call your people, they're going to have to know this. The banks and the gov't agencies are depending on you to do your part in getting this info out. The reason we're getting this info now is that they appreciate what we're doing to help you, i.e., helping our economy grow, keeping you from going broke. They want you to succeed. They want this to be a long-term investment for you and prepare for your future. They don't want you to run through your money in 6 months. Try to help others! Pay it forward!

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C - Husband & wife joint account? T - Yes, if it's going in the same account.

C - Regarding the VNN, if they don't respond to VNN and they say VND, what do I say? T - If they say $10 then that's the one you want.

C - Do we need gift letters for audits later? T - Everybody won't be audited. They'll audit at certain rates, probably not at $1M, but higher. They're going to audit if they feel the money came from criminal means. If you gave a gift letter with the currency it will make it better and smoother for everybody.

C - Is the appointment for all currencies? T - Yes, you can do them all at the same time. You need to keep the IQN separate from the VNN.

Q - Would it be wise to go to a different branch? T - Go where you value your privacy. If it feels comfortable go to a different branch.

T - IN REVEIW - We are expecting to receive the 800#s sometime between now and tomorrow morning. The plan is to have everybody in the banks starting in the morning, east coast to west coast. Rates are still good. Please, please, please, be calm and professional. Let's do this the right way: we don't want to draw attention to ourselves and we don't want issues with bank personnnel. Even afterwards, you have money, you have millions. That doesn't make you smart. It just makes you a rich dummy. When you go back to the bank next week, you'll still need to have respect. They didn't know. They beiieved their bosses and followed wha they were told. I expect them to be upset. It's in the past - over and one with. Let's live our lives right. That's what they wanted me to get out tonight. BE PROFESSIONAL. BE CALM. DO NOT SHOW UP IN GROUPS>

T - We'll try and have a call in the morning. We should be able to. I'll have any updated info they give me. Guys, I don't know if this will happen but this is what I was briefed, that it's supposed to happen.

T - If there are any changes I'll do it on the morning call. Have a good night - go to sleep!!!

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