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Monday, December 2, 2013
TNT DINAR CONFERENCE CALL NOTES
*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** / Okie_Oil_man, TNT Tony
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*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** /
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Hi, Folks -
Found at dinarguru.com:
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12-2-2013 *** Dinar
Guru News Flash *** Lots of buzz in the air right
now...very exciting times for sure! As of right now we have NOT
gotten confirmation that an RV has happened. Remember we are
looking for consensus from newshound and intel gurus and from our over 70,000
dinar guru members scattered throughout the work...we have NOT gotten that
just yet. Right now ONLY the TNT Tony/Okie camp is hearing the RV is here.
Use the RV meters on the left side of this page to see the big Guru
picture...stay tuned as the other guru updates will surface soon!
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12-2-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man it appears
today it is all over. We should receive our 800 numbers anytime now. I will
be back with further information. ---finally---we are waiting to go
to the banks. As of this time there are no more delays. It is completed--this
is not the official notice yet---that should be forthcoming with the
information you need regarding appointment numbers.---make your plans--do it
now!
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12-2-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony [via
FlaPatriot59] Last night we were hoping to do an RV announcement. Bank people
were on high alert. The actual date for the RV - which will be
reported in history - is December 1 at 9PM EST. That's the "official
date". When do we cash out? Hopefully sometime today. What
I can tell you is this: the rates this morning are "live" and ready
to go, still just not released yet. They are supposed to release
them today. It is scheduled to go. Everybody at every level is saying that
today is your day. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
12-2-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony The
rates are still high. But they asked me not to talk about the
rate - still high double-digits.They're still wanting
everybody processed in the first 5-7 days. The rates will hold for that time
and then they will start doing what they're supposed to do. [When will
the 30 days start?] It should start today. Dec. 2 gives us
30 days. Iraq is pulling their 3-zero notes on Jan. 1, so they need this to
happen beginning today for the 30 days. At 5 minutes to 9AM EST
the rates were live at the banks. At 12:30 PM EST they were live with an
administrative hold. Right now they are bringing to people into
the banks to go to work. Security is like we've never seen it at the call
centers. Everybody is saying today is our day. [post 2 of
2]
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FORMULA FOR NATIONAL PROSPERITY. FROM ERASMUS OF AMERICA - DEC. 2, 2013
FORMULA FOR NATIONAL PROSPERITY. FROM ERASMUS OF AMERICA - DEC. 2, 2013
"THE WISE LISTEN TO THE WISE!" - THE BIBLE TEACHES THIS.
I guess by instinct, since 6 years of age, I always associated with the
brightest in my schools and also the brightest I found in life outside of
school and later in life. When you deal much with the bright in society, this
automatically makes your own mind sharper than just dealing with those who
never think in their lives. I never thought of it until long after becoming an
adult that this was not a dumb habit I had formed when young. I did not think
it unusual until I was older that at age 5 I was already evaluating the effects
of expanding populations upon cities and rural areas. At ages 6, 7, and 8, I
was already studying how to send rockets to the moon, how to build atomic
bombs, worked out laws of science, etc. which later in high school I found out
that my theories of laws of science were actually taught in the textbooks in
high school. With this unusual behavior as a small child and boy, I still also
had an ordinary social life with other children my age. When in the 7th grade,
we were given mathematical problems to solve that night. The next day the
teacher announced that she had given us advanced math only taught in high
school, so we would not know how to solve these math problems. Not knowing that
I was not supposed to know how to solve these math problems, I invented the
necessary math and solved the problems given which startled the teacher. I
think it was the same year I ran for class president and two others also ran.
We each in turn were invited to leave the classroom so they could talk freely
about us. After this I was surprised when I apparently won all the votes in the
class. A friend told me afterwards they called me the "Abe Lincoln"
of the classroom for honesty and everyone then decided to elect me class
president. As a junior in a military academy high school, I got interested in
naval construction for warships, etc. and invented a mathematical curve that
told you the specifications for building any size naval ship you wanted to. I
showed this to a math professor of mine and he commented that I had
independently invented an advanced mathematical system only taught to top
honor math students in the fourth year of college. At a large university I
signed up while a freshman for a course titled "Introduction To
Mathematics." Someone incorrectly told me that this was the easiest math
course to take so I could devote my main time to other university classes
instead. I had signed up for the most advanced math course taught at that
university and by math logic, you independently invented the major math systems
used in the world today. I had maybe signed up for the most advanced math
course in America and not taught in other colleges and universities. I may have
been the only freshman who signed up for this. Other students were sophomores,
juniors, etc. and the top math students at the university. I passed the course.
Half the class flunked the course as it was very tough in teaching advanced
math concepts to the students studying it. I only mention this background to
give maximum credibility to the following formula I am going to show you now
how to boom and skyrocket any economy in the world.
At
the age of 20, I successfully cracked the top economic secret of Nazi Germany
which enabled them to boom the German economy and rearm Germany years ahead of
what American and European economists said in 1937 would be possible for
Germany to do under Hitler and the Nazi Party. I had discussed my theory with
leading economists in America and they would say that I had an interesting
theory, but couldn't be right. Later on by wild circumstances, I obtained the
testimony of the German captain in charge of the weekend mountain retreat of
Hitler and Hitler once in an idle moment, boasted of the great economic secret
how Germany rearmed so fast and it was codenamed "The Inverted
Inflation" and explained why that name. This German testimony made total
sense to me why including the codename and I got witnesses in Wash., D.C.
to sign legal statements that this German captain had confirmed that I had
successfully cracked the top economic secret of Nazi Germany which American and
Allied intelligence never knew the answer to. Soviet intelligence guessed
correctly part of the secret but not the whole secret that Hitler had
used. A friend of mine with British intelligence in London, England shared
with me a translated copy of a captured Soviet intelligence report of
World War II on the Nazi economic secret and the Soviet report concluded if the
people of the West ever found out how this worked, they would demand their national
governments use this system to create full employment and booming national
economies. This would overwhelm Communism which would then have no further
appeal to the masses of the world.
But as I researched this totally, I even knew beyond the exile
Nazi captain what he had heard from Hitler himself and what the
Soviet intelligence explained what they knew about how it worked. They
admitted that it worked better than Communism for the fast industrialization of
nations. But an "unimportant" intelligence report of the U.S. State
Dept. had the missing clue where this answer originally came from. Bernard
Baruch, "The Wizard of Wall Street" and war industrial czar of
America in World War I under President Woodrow Wilson, at the end of World War
I had an observation based upon running the U.S. war industry in World War I.
No one in America paid any attention to his idea how to create full employment
in America and so it was forgotten. America was in party mode over the end
of the world war and no one wanted to hear anything serious in America then.
Nazi intelligence researching Bernard Baruch for any smart ideas he might have
in how to organize the war industry of a nation such as Germany in preparation
for war came across his suggestion and kicked it up to Hitler and his closest
associates who were bright and not stupid in worldly matters. They thought it
was smart and with a few German touches to the original Bernard Baruch idea, it
became the "Inverted Inflation" of Nazi Germany. This overnight
made Hitler so popular with the Germans because he overnight solved
unemployment and poverty in Germany. He used tricks of propaganda on the German
people as the German people had been tricked in psuedo-sound concepts of
economics by the bankers and would not have had the confidence in Hitler to let
him do this if they knew what was really making Germany so rich and powerful as
a nation overnight. The cover story was they were "soaking the fat
boys" meaning the Jews and so the German peasants laughed and asked no
questions how everything was suddenly being paid for and times were suddenly
good in Germany again. What showed it was a cover story was when subordinates
of Hitler started the mass breakup of Jewish shops for retaliation against Jews
for the German ambassador assassinated in France by a Jewish youth. Hitler
slammed the breaks on the breaking up of Jewish shops as soon as he found out
what his subordinates had done without his prior knowledge or approval. His
subordinates were violating the principles of "The Inverted
Inflation" without knowing it!
Having won the respect of economists by successfully cracking the top
economic secret of Nazi Germany which was more sophisticated than American and
European economists had realized, I was now able to study with six of the
most brilliant economists of America and Europe. I had shared with me even
their most secret economic studies not taught in the colleges and universities.
During this period, I set up as studies for myself how 84 economic systems as recorded
in history up to maybe around 6,000 years ago all worked. I figured
studying such massive data might reveal a formula why national economies are
prosperous or else are very bad for the people. At some point the formula
emerged before my eyes and I tested it against the documented 84 economic
systems of prior history. It beautifully showed why and when every turn of
the economy would occur and why whether for prosperity or else a bad economy
again. Even the "Inverted Inflation" of Nazi Germany was totally
explained by this formula I had come up studying 84 prior economic systems
in human history for up to maybe 6,000 years ago (roughly 2,000 years A.D.
on back to around 4,000 B.C).
When I studied with the German economist personally endorsed by Albert Einstein
as teaching the only true economic science in the 20th Century, his research
work was very brilliant and it was an honor to study under him. One point he
and I differed on was that he was an internationalist as an economist and I was
a nationalist as an economist. But as I was picking his brain of every smart
answer he had, I let him do the talking while I did the listening. He had this
one area of economic study which was overwhelmingly powerful and which the
other economists did not know about. We had this system of money starting in
1150 A.D. and was in France from basically 1170 A.D. until 1270 A.D. when
early bankers overthrew it because it made all the people basically rich under
it, no unemployed, no poor left, no crime left, no wars left, made businesses
boom in super prosperity, taxes disappeared from governments as they no longer
needed taxes to run on, and historians then wrote how a virtual golden age had
descended on mankind under this monetary system. When I studied how it worked,
I coined the name of "Jesus Money" for it as it practiced what Jesus
Christ had taught in the New Testament how money in society should be
run. However, my economic formula told me that this German economist did not
know the entire story to this monetary system I renamed "Jesus Money"
as it did totally what Jesus taught should be done with money in society. My
formula told me what to look for in the ancient European and French records and
I found what my formula said had to be there as no inflation occurred during
this 100 years of a virtual golden age in France under constant prosperity
without stop! The records were there as my formula predicted!
Now my economic formula tells me that Obama is incredibly stupid in national
economics and doing basically everything wrong such as Median Household Income
Has Fallen For Five Years In A Row as reported by Michael Snyder, on September
17th, 2013 - http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/.
The first reports on Obamacare shows that it is driving up and steeply medical
health insurance costs for millions of Americans as current TV reports have
shown by interviewing people, costing millions of jobs to be lost or else
demoted from full-time to part-time in America as employers can't stand the
costs of medical insurance imposed upon them by Obamacare. Carried to extremes
Obamacare could end up totally bankrupting America and ending America even as
an independent nation on earth with the death of potentially even many millions
of Americans due to the "Doomsday Factor to Industrial Economics"
Obamacare may trigger off in America.
My economic formula is very sophisticated and can expand into hundreds of
different formulas depending on what answers a government or nation wants from
it. However, I tried to make the foundational economic formula as easy to
understand in basic concept as a powerful formula can be understood by the
ordinary people not trained in economic science. My economic formula is
based upon a detailed study of 84 recorded economic systems for mankind for
thousands of years back to maybe even roughly 6,000 years ago. This economic
formula is T equals M times P times V. Now translated into more simple language
so people begin to catch on to what is being said in mathematics. T stands
for total purchasing power for a given period of time for a given size
population for a society or nation. M equals units of money or effective
substitutes such as credit cards, bank credits whether paper checks or
electronic credits of money, etc. P equals the purchasing power per unit of
money or effective substitutes. V stands for the velocity factor of money which
in simple terms means the spending rate of money in a given time as used in
society or the entire nation itself. Now definitions control how mathematical
formulas work. My definition of P or purchasing power equals how much can you
buy for each hour of ordinary work done in an ordinary job. Henry Ford once
shrewdly commented, "The market of the nation consists of the wages of the
working people of a nation." Now V or velocity or spending rate of
money can be moved faster or slower by a number of tactics in economics.
Now if we double the gas mileage on cars or else can supply car fuel at half
the price previously paid for it, then we double the purchasing power in money
of the ordinary people when buying fuel for their cars. Every engineering
tactic we use which increases the purchasing power of money used is in
disguised form a wage increase for the working people of the nation. Every
health trick we use which improves health or lowers the cost of hospital
services increases the value of money in national health. Every agricultural
tactic we use which makes the raising of food crops less expensive in the
marketplace makes your money worth more in purchasing power. Every tactic which
lowers taxes increases the amount of money to spend for the ordinary people of
a nation. Pay off the national debt while maintaining the same basic purchasing
power per unit of money or effective substitute should end up as a strong
wage increase for everyone working a job and increased profits for anyone in
business. Also, the government not carrying a huge debt burden any longer can
now operate just as good as before or even much better and for far less money
than governments normally do today. I am merely scratching the surface how many
ways this economic formula can raise the real wages of the people on any job in
America, greatly increase profits in any business, lower or even eliminate
taxes in a nation.
One national economic study around 1987 concluded it probably
cost American labor one trillion dollars or more in lost wages each year
to have outlawed prayer and the Bible from the public schools of America.
Also, made the national market maybe one trillion dollars smaller for
businesses in America to sell to. Ask any member of Congress to explain how
this works and if they can't answer why outlawing morality in a nation greatly
reduces wages of the working class and profits for business plus a smaller tax
base for governments to run on, they don't know a "damn" thing how
national economics really works! As super economic amateurs are running America
from Congress and most painfully especially from the Obama White House which
doesn't have the foggiest idea how good national economics works, push for
passage of my Omni Law as fast and much as you can and America
will start skyrocketing into massive national prosperity and jobs for the ordinary
people and great business markets for the business people of America. It is a
"win-win" for the working people and would-be working people, for
businesses small and large in America, and even for the federal government
crushed under trillions of dollars of needless debts and state governments also
crushed under massive debt they cannot pay off under this lousy economy America
now has under Obama. As President Harry Truman once commented concerning the
Oval Office at the White House, "The buck stops here!" In
case Wash., D.C. tries the trick of high inflation on you, the inner economic
definition of inflation is "hidden taxation" through printing of the
printing presses.
"World
In Trance" by Leopold Schwarzschild published in 1943 gave me my
first deep insight into hyperinflation and is usually secretly created by
government policy. I read this while in military
school.
A brief capsule version of sound, good leadership for America. As Gen. George
Patton of World War II believed in and what I totally agree with, if you are a
good leader, you have a team of smart advisers around you, tap their brains for
all the smart answers they have and see if their brains agree with your basic
proposed plan how to win, and as a team you all work together to make the final
plan hammered out by all of you work. As Gen. Patton also commented, he wanted
a plan to assign to very capable military commanders under him, let them see
the plan that needed to be carried out to win victory for their side, and then
let the commanders placed in charge carry out the final details of battle and
win for the smart plan given to them. The commander in the field so long as
having good brains and the initiative to act swiftly and soundly based upon
circumstances in battle as they arise, should be able to deliver to you victory
based upon the basic sound plan you have given them for victory. If rarely some
commander could not have the initative to carry out the assignment given to
him, then discharge him from the command in that field and replace him with a
commander who can carry out the plan given to him and deliver the victory
needed for your side.
Whether for the good side or the side of evil, genius is a collection of smart
leaders and brains united together who work as a united team to make the
planned victory become reality. As my mother used to say which I thought was a
very smart definition of leadership, "A good leader is a good
evaluator." I have enough powerful answers in economics that if required,
I can deliver plans in economics that will work regardless! However, by
bringing a team together of very smart to obviously brilliant people in the
required field, we end up with leadership, tactics, and answers more brilliant
than any one leader by himself or herself would produce for the final result.
On the highest levels, genius is a team effort, not just an individual though
an individual may be the spark that ignites the team into super brilliance or
genius.
Thomas Edison was a genius in inventions it is stated. However, Thomas Edison
was normally the idea man and then the machinists under him finished off the
final designed invention that he had the inspiration to visualize could be
done. All brilliant answers seen in society have a system behind them making
the brilliant results possible. Thomas Edison had the concept and system of
"The Invention Factory" which enabled him to patent more inventions
than any other inventor in American history prior to him. I studied Edison
until I figured out his "Invention Factory" concept. Like in military
intelligence, I found enough clues left by him as to exactly know what he meant
by his system of invention called "The Invention Factory." When we
build my proposed Camelot Project, I want in a carefully picked group of
carefully picked inventive brains to teach them "The Invention
Factory" system of Thomas Edison. Then China and other nations will be
startled when America reemerges as the undisputed industrial leader of the
world.
And picking of specially picked student for trade secret courses in this
Camelot Project once built, when the American economy is skyrocketing into
super prosperity due to passage of the Omni Law, I want picked students from
foreign nations to study under our economic policies and I will see that they
are trained in such power tactics of economics that they become the leaders of
their nations once they return home. With this tactic, leaders we approve of
will become the leaders of most of the world and we will have a return of high
Christian civilization and booming prosperity rapidly spread across the
world.
I will not let the mediocre mentality of Wash., D.C. hold back the
gifted American people from showing what geniuses they can be in all sorts
of important fields once given the God-given freedom to rise to their God-given
potential in life! This would be in a super free, super prosperous America made
the greatest nation in the world by passage of the Omni Law. The Omni Law is
based upon God-given principles of self-government taught in the Bible! It was
taught as a leadership principle for both government and church on earth! But
that would turn into a major lecture to show you why I say this!
All races on earth are imperfect and have their bad points as well as good
points. Under passage of the Omni Law, you would see the best side of the Jews
as well as other races. A good culture helps bring out the good in people, not
the potential evil in them. Karl Marx wrote to get rid of all the Jews in the
world and we would have a workers' paradise on earth. Adolf Hitler wrote to get
rid of all the Jews in the world and we would live in a wonderful world after
that. That is not correct. As Ghandi of India once shrewdly observed, create in
yourself the reforms you would want in others and then you can reform the world
with this start. Let Christians become the living Gospel of Christ to others by
how they live and Communism, Nazism, and Extremist Islam would lose their
credibility and appeal to many in the world. The Communists offered the Blacks
in America Communist front causes to follow as the Christians forgot to give
the Blacks alternative answers that would solve the major problems of the
Blacks and make them want good causes instead of evil causes to follow. Create
full employment in America and Communism will have no appeal to the Blacks in
America. That is a many times better answer than "Civil Rights Laws"
which blame the Whites for all the problems of the Blacks in America whereas it
is the badly run and morally bankrupt government we have in Wash., D.C. which
has betrayed and deceived the Blacks so instead of giving them full employment
in America which the federal government could have done for them, they give a
degenerate economy to them and blame it on the Whites instead of the corrupt
and moron level politicians in Wash., D.C. The Whites have little influence
over Wash., D.C. as they don't understand how the corrupt secretly govern
Wash., D.C. instead of them. Pass the Omni Law and America will have a rebirth
as a nation and good times will come again and better than America has ever
seen before. A secret how to influence the politicians of Wash., D.C.
and state legislatures to push as a proposed law and pass the Omni Law as soon
as possible. Government is run by pressure and not by them being just "nice
guys." Every time you send them an email pushing for passage of the Omni
Law, their formula is they evaluate you represent the voice of maybe 500 to
1,000 people who think identically like you but did not send an email pushing
for passage of the Omni Law like you did. They get flooded with emails of this
kind, they get scared of offending the public and finally will pass it in fear
of losing their political careers otherwise.
One last quick comment. In jealousy of Jews, non-Jews don't want to admit
it, but the Jews have some smart points of culture is why they have possessed
as much influence and money in the world as they do. The Jews like to back
their smart Jewish leaders. They respect brains in their own people. Most
Christians and Gentiles seem to dislike anyone being a smart to very
intelligent leader for them. It is rare that they back those who have the
brains to beat their enemies in the nation or world abroad. I always back smart
leaders on my side if I can. I have quite a circle of smart people I call
"friends" and this is a power base to win for good instead of evil
in America. The Jews practice "focus" in business. They set up a
plan, stay faithful to the plan, sacrifice to make the plan work. When
they win one level, they then set up a higher goal and level for their
business, work for achieving that goal and level, and step by step, they
achieve the final goal they had set for themselves in business. Too many
Gentiles have to get a quick victory in business or else they get bored with it
and go on to something else to spend money, time, and energy on. If it doesn't
quick win, they drop it and many Gentiles with good business ideas but too
impatient to follow through on smart goals for their business throw away
business successes maybe inches away from pending victory. Like the ancient
Romans did, the Jews respect practical answers and support with the necessary
effort practical answers until they work and right for them. Now many Jews
are not smart in public relations and oppose the Christians being allowed any
Christmas celebrations, etc. It would be smart to let the Christians
practice freely their favorite Christian festivals and the Jews could practice
freely their favorite Jewish festivals with good will on all sides. It is
not an American principle of law that any minority can take away the freedom of
the majority of Americans.
This much I will say in defense of the Jews. I have seen as many dishonest
Gentile business people as claimed dishonest Jews in business. There are good
people and bad people in all races that I have seen on earth! I have been
in business much of my life and as a general rule, you have to deliver in
business some product or service the public wants or else your business or
service cannot normally survive in society. Most Jewish businesses deliver
products and services the public wants and so they stay in business with the
goodwill of their customers just as much as many Gentile businesses that have
been around for a long time. If evil is excessive in your society, it
is mainly due to the weakness of character of Christians who submit
to evil too easily and not due to the would-be evil of Jew,
Muslim, Communist, or other in society. Also, you raise good to power
in society by standing for it, not hiding in the dark so no one will know
what you stand for. As Jesus said, he who is ashamed of Jesus before men, Jesus
will be ashamed of him before God the Father. And as Jesus taught in a parable,
if those claimed to be His friends do not want to attend His marriage feast
when it is scheduled, even the outcasts of society whether good or evil
may end up invited to His wedding feast as God the Father will have guests for
the wedding feast regardless!
I have tried to talk common sense to the people where other people use hysteria
and psuedo-logic to try and lead the people away from what are their best
interests in America.
Our website where our Omni Law is posted on is www.fastboomamericaneconomy.com
This is also used for product offers and our Omni Law Loan Program to help
finance the fast passage of the Omni Law now. We have a better hand to win with
than the opposition knows at this time! We expect to win! Our mailing address
for those wanting to send us payments by mail instead of through our website,
our mailing address is NIFI, P.O. Box 1465, Seneca, SC 29679. Make checks, etc.
out to NIFI and tell us what the payment is for.
Push this report all over America and your economy becomes sound and super
prosperous once the people realize they need to push the Omni Law to make all
this happen and swiftly in America. Better than the Middle Class stalled out 5
years with basically no improvement in their finances in these 5 years under
Obama. His past track record says he does not know how to boom the American
economy and do it soundly! His only economic education since a small boy on was
all from Communist teachers and he does not understand nor want to understand
free enterprise at all!
Yours For God And Country, Erasmus Of America (pen name for the maverick in
economics who believed that honest scholarship created true economic science,
not starting with lies and trying to make them work as claimed economic
science!)
A Message from Dinar Recaps "Post RV Plans"
A
Message from Dinar Recaps "Post RV Plans"
12/02/2013
We would like to take this time to thank all the Intel
Providers over the past several years who have sacrificed their time, personal
lives, resources and health at times to try to help us all, and keep us
informed and encouraged.
We would also like to thank YOU - our loyal readers for your kind words, support and dedication and continued readership.
We at Recaps do not know when the RV will happen, but hope the roller coaster ride will be coming to an end quickly. Many people have asked us if Recaps will still be here Post-RV?
The Dinar Recaps Team are also investors and we will be doing the same as you and just as busy in the days after the RV has finally happened.
At this time we are thinking that shortly after the RV is released, we may switch to a once a day Email for a short time before we eventually close our doors. But, if we sign an NDA, we will, MOST LIKELY close immediately or stop posting new posts. We will let you all know as soon as we know.
We believe most, if not all of the other Forums and Chat rooms Recaps now get material from will be scaled back and/or closed immediately.
After a RV, everyone will embark on wonderful new adventures and lives and our days of sitting in front of a computer screen for the latest news, rumors and opinions on Currency Exchange will become a thing of the past.
We hope that the Post RV advice and strategies we have posted from others will be beneficial to you all and be sure to go to our Advice posts Archives and Post-RV section and make copies of anything you feel will help you in your new lives. (Each page shows 10 stories. When you get to the bottom of the page, press "Previous" which is in the bottom left corner, and it will display 10 more posts.)
We also have our Bulletin Board page, which has many note worthy posts we have made.
Thank you all so much and we pray that all your dreams come true VERY SOON.
Sincerely ~ The Dinar Recaps Team
PS. As far as 800#'s go, UNTIL a RV happens, we can NOT be 100% sure Recaps will be allowed to post EVERY 800#, bank deal or opportunity. We hope and believe we will. But is up to the people in charge of those deals to decide that. And as we all know, it is a very fluid situation and subject to change.
We would also like to thank YOU - our loyal readers for your kind words, support and dedication and continued readership.
We at Recaps do not know when the RV will happen, but hope the roller coaster ride will be coming to an end quickly. Many people have asked us if Recaps will still be here Post-RV?
The Dinar Recaps Team are also investors and we will be doing the same as you and just as busy in the days after the RV has finally happened.
At this time we are thinking that shortly after the RV is released, we may switch to a once a day Email for a short time before we eventually close our doors. But, if we sign an NDA, we will, MOST LIKELY close immediately or stop posting new posts. We will let you all know as soon as we know.
We believe most, if not all of the other Forums and Chat rooms Recaps now get material from will be scaled back and/or closed immediately.
After a RV, everyone will embark on wonderful new adventures and lives and our days of sitting in front of a computer screen for the latest news, rumors and opinions on Currency Exchange will become a thing of the past.
We hope that the Post RV advice and strategies we have posted from others will be beneficial to you all and be sure to go to our Advice posts Archives and Post-RV section and make copies of anything you feel will help you in your new lives. (Each page shows 10 stories. When you get to the bottom of the page, press "Previous" which is in the bottom left corner, and it will display 10 more posts.)
We also have our Bulletin Board page, which has many note worthy posts we have made.
Thank you all so much and we pray that all your dreams come true VERY SOON.
Sincerely ~ The Dinar Recaps Team
PS. As far as 800#'s go, UNTIL a RV happens, we can NOT be 100% sure Recaps will be allowed to post EVERY 800#, bank deal or opportunity. We hope and believe we will. But is up to the people in charge of those deals to decide that. And as we all know, it is a very fluid situation and subject to change.
RETURN TO INNOCENCE
Monday, December 2, 2013
MAKE THIS VIRAL! RETURN TO INNOCENCE
RETURN TO INNOCENCE
12-21-2013
After the very successful activation of the Aion portal, it is time to take action again! Therefore we will meet in groups large and small, as individuals and couples, at the time of the solstice on December 21st, to experience the Return to Innocence. Many of us will gather and open ourselves to the deepest aspect of our Being, the innocent Soul, to anchor our consciousness beyond the world of games the Cabal tries to play with us.
Our inner experience will support the plan for planetary liberation, so that it manifests as soon as possible, as non-violently and smoothly as possible. We can do it! It needs to go viral! We need to reach many people, so that the critical mass of people actually doing it is attained. Please post it on your websites and blogs. If you know an alternative media outlet, you can send it to them. You can create a Facebook group for your local group of people dong this in your part of the world. You can create a video about this and post it on Youtube.
The moment of solstice on December 21st will be a culmination point of a mini portal which will open at the end of October-December Window of Opportunity. This mini portal will be a multidimensional window to further anchor and ground the energies of the Aion portal and prepare us for the activation of a very important portal which will open in April 2014.
The mini portal will open with full moon on December 17th, will have its turning point with Return to Innocence activation on December 21st and will close on December 25th.
The heliocentric chart for Return to Innocence activation shows a grand trine of Jupiter, Saturn and Chiron (together with Juno), healing a grand square of Venus, Vesta, Mercury and Juno. This signifies the time when healing of all tensions within the collective feminine principle is finally possible, leading us towards the return of innocence:
When we are in touch with our innocent Soul presence, we are beyond the reach of the Cabal and their manipulations. When a critical mass of people experiences that innocence, there is no turning back. It will bring about the disintegration of Archon's control systems of karma, lack and guilt and open our collective consciousness for the arrival of the miraculous.
Miraculous reality is the future destiny of our planet and the future outcome of the evolution of the totality of our universe, when we all converge into the One.
We have been programmed by the Archons in Atlantis to stop believing in fairy tales and to buy into the reality they created for us. But we do not need to play the game by their rules anymore. It is time to wake up and begin creating a reality we all deserve. When you have a strong contact with your inner innocence, you do not need to struggle for survival or follow any other aspect of Cabal's programming. You can exit the game and being manifesting everything you need through magnetic manifestation by expressing yourself as a Soul and following your divine mission which helps you to contribute to the planetary liberation.
We will be having our main activation in Glastonbury in United Kingdom. Glastonbury is one of the most powerful Goddess vortices on the planet and the perfect place to anchor the Return to Innocence activation. You are more than welcome to join us:
Even if you can not join us in Glastonbury, you can do this activation in your own group or even alone, wherever in the world you are. We will all be doing this activation at the same time, at the moment ofthe solstice, which comes on December 21st at 5 hours 11 minutes pm UT/GMT. This equals 6:11 pm CET in central Europe, 12:11 pm EST in New York, 11:11 am CST in Chicago, 10:11 am MST in Phoenix and 9:11 am PST in LA.
You can view the exact time of the activation for many places here:
Instructions:
1. Dedicate December 21st to get in touch with your inner innocence. Read a fairy tale. Play with your child. Watch the sunrise. Smell the flowers. Smile.
2. Few minutes before solstice make yourself comfortable, close your eyes and relax by watching your breath
3. Each time your breathe out, radiate your inner innocence into your surroundings through your heart chakra and continue doing so for anytime between 5 and 30 minutes
Updates about the Return to Innocence activation:
Victory NOW! Liberation NOW!
Stand Together Now Or You Will End Up Facing the Police State Alone
CGI's oldBuck: Stand Together Now Or You Will End Up
Facing the Police State Alone
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First they tortured a U.S. citizen and gang member … I remained silent; I wasn’t a criminal Then they tortured a U.S. citizen, whistleblower and navy veteran … I remained silent; I wasn’t a whistleblower Then they locked up an attorney for representing accused criminals … I remained silent; I wasn’t a defense attorney Then they arrested a young father walking with his son simply because he told Dick Cheney that he disagreed with his policies … I remained silent; I’ve never talked to an important politician Then they said an entertainer should be killed because she questioned the government’s version of an important historical event … I remained silent; I wasn’t an entertainer Then they arrested people for demanding that Congress hold the President to the Constitution … I did not speak out; I’ve never protested in Washington Then they arrested a man for holding a sign … I held my tongue; I’ve never held that kind of sign Then they broke a minister’s leg because he wanted to speak at a public event … I said nothing; I wasn’t a religious leader Then they shot a student with a taser gun and arrested him for asking a question of a politician at a public event … I remained silent; I wasn’t a student Then they started labeling virtually every innocent and normal behavior as marking Americans as “potential terrorists” … I remained silent; I didn’t want to be called a terrorist Then they threw political dissenters in psychiatric wards … I remained silent; I didn’t want to be seen as crazy Then they declared that they could label U.S. citizens living on U.S. soil as “unlawful enemy combatants” and imprison them indefinitely without access to any attorney … I remained silent; I didn’t want to be labeled an enemy Then they assassinated an American citizen without any court trial And they killed his son because he should have had a “far more responsible father” … I remained silent; I live on American soil Then they declared that they could assassinate U.S. citizens living on U.S. soil without any due process of law (update) … I remained silent; I didn’t want to be on the list Then they forced down the airplane carrying the president of a sovereign nation, because they were looking for a whistleblower I remained silent; I’m not a foreign leader Then they called for the founder of an independent publisher to be killed by drone I remained silent; I don’t want to worry about drone strikes against me Then they started spying on all Americans, even though top experts say that doesn’t protect us from terrorism I remained silent; I didn’t want to call even more attention to myself from the spies Then they charged the partner of an investigative journalist with terrorism for transporting whistleblowing documents to the journalist regarding illegal NSA spying I remained silent; My wife isn’t a journalist When they came for me, Everyone was silent; there was no one left to speak out. http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-11-04/stand-together-now-or-you-will-end-facing-police-state-alone-%E2%80%A6 |
TNT Tony Monday Conference Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U
TNT
Tony Monday Conference Call Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U
12/02/2013
Due to Dinar Recaps Policy of not posting
Bashing or Rumors about other Intel Providers or Groups, The TNT Tony Recorded
Link will not be posted today. The Links and the official TNT Notes are
available at the TNT forums …Thank You Tony for all your dedication and Intel
today ~The Dinar Recaps Team
Unedited Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:
CALL STARTING NOW...T = TONY C = CALLER
TONY - Good morning, TNT! How is everybody? Every single person listening, member or not a member - you should all be superfantastic! It's going to be one of those days, based on what I'm hearing from everybody. I have to honestly tell you I was hoping we wouldn't have to do this call. So, I'm going to do this early & quick - tell you what's going on. I hope today is your last day on that job - give it to somebody else!
T - I'm going to tell you what you need to know at this point on how to protect yourself. Then we'll go through some history. You can hang up if you don't want to hear that part. But I'll give you the good news first.
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Unedited Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:
CALL STARTING NOW...T = TONY C = CALLER
TONY - Good morning, TNT! How is everybody? Every single person listening, member or not a member - you should all be superfantastic! It's going to be one of those days, based on what I'm hearing from everybody. I have to honestly tell you I was hoping we wouldn't have to do this call. So, I'm going to do this early & quick - tell you what's going on. I hope today is your last day on that job - give it to somebody else!
T - I'm going to tell you what you need to know at this point on how to protect yourself. Then we'll go through some history. You can hang up if you don't want to hear that part. But I'll give you the good news first.
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T - Over this process we've learning a lot about
gov'ts, people, etc. You're going to learn some things today and the entire
puzzle will come together for you today and you can ask some questions about
it.
T - Here's the info. Last nigth we were hoping to do an RV announcement. Bank people were on high alert. It wasn't a 100% call-in, just upper management going over their instructions. They hung around until 2AM this morning thinking it would happen last night. The actual date for the RV - which will be reported in history - is December 1 at 9PM EST. That's the "official date". When do we cash out? Hopefully sometime today. What I can tell you is this: the rates this morning are "live" and ready to go, still just not released yet. They are supposed to release them today. The first time was 30 minutes ago. There is a new time, but I can't tell you. It is scheduled to go. Everybody at every level is saying that today is your day.
T - We're all set. Everybody doesn't need to go today. The rate will maintain for a while so don't panic. The 800#s were expanded to more banks. In the briefing yesterday they were reminded to be as accommodating as they can. Their number 1 goal is to get that money in their bank. They will be as competitive as possible to make that happen when you walk in. That's what the currency exchange personnel are being told. They're actually having a briefing right now. The rates are still high. But they asked me not to talk about the rate - still high double-digits. You'll be flabbergasted.
T - Here's the info. Last nigth we were hoping to do an RV announcement. Bank people were on high alert. It wasn't a 100% call-in, just upper management going over their instructions. They hung around until 2AM this morning thinking it would happen last night. The actual date for the RV - which will be reported in history - is December 1 at 9PM EST. That's the "official date". When do we cash out? Hopefully sometime today. What I can tell you is this: the rates this morning are "live" and ready to go, still just not released yet. They are supposed to release them today. The first time was 30 minutes ago. There is a new time, but I can't tell you. It is scheduled to go. Everybody at every level is saying that today is your day.
T - We're all set. Everybody doesn't need to go today. The rate will maintain for a while so don't panic. The 800#s were expanded to more banks. In the briefing yesterday they were reminded to be as accommodating as they can. Their number 1 goal is to get that money in their bank. They will be as competitive as possible to make that happen when you walk in. That's what the currency exchange personnel are being told. They're actually having a briefing right now. The rates are still high. But they asked me not to talk about the rate - still high double-digits. You'll be flabbergasted.
T - We will see different things. The rate in
Iraq is 3.44. It will be the international rate. Our rate is being referred to
as a CONTRACT RATE. This is what it will be referred to on Forex. I don't know
which rate the exchangers will deal with. But you should have a plan of attack
based on which one offers you the best deal. The rates will do one of 2 things:
come out and maintain, or come out and go up or down. You should have a safety
net based on either way. I have to believe they'll be competitive.
T - We're waiting just like you're waiting. But everybody is saying today is the day. It didn't happen at noon, so whatever is the next time we usually say is the next time. You can talk about it on the boards. It's the same time they always say. Last night they just didn't call in the people. The called in US Marshalls, Homeland Security, local police offers, 3-letter agencies - they were all there and they are all there today. They've never callled them all in like that at the call centers. They're also going to be there at the banks - both obvious and plain clothes. They do not want people coming in acting like idiots, buses, etc. Otherwise, you'll be turned away and be put on the bottom of the list.
T - They're still wanting everybody processed in the first 5-7 days. The rates will hold for that time and then they will start doing what they're supposed to do. There will be Marshalls in place at the banks, regardless of what somebody else says. We need those people there in place because of the masses.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM....
Q - Since it's now back to the IMF, do we need to be concerned about the steps? BIS in the picture anymore? A - We are past all of that. It's between the IMF, UST and the banks. Everybody else has signed off on it. The rates are at the banks. The 800#s are at the banks. The IMF will determine what time is the release. The first time was at 9AM EST this morning. Then moved to 12:30 PM EST to make it fair to those on the west coast. Now we're moved to the next time. Hopefully this is our last call.
Q - Has everyone gotten their cookies so we can go in and get our crumbs? A - I don't think you can call what you're getting "crumbs." Especially based on what we thought it would be.
Q - If the CBI says all 3-zero notes will be worthless on 1/1/14, what happens to those notes we hold? A - The UST is taking all the notes in and using as oil credits.
Q - Is it true that BoA is being bought out? A - BoA was taken over in a a couple of states but I don't have anymore info on that.
Q - What is the corrrect syntax for the currencies? A - ZWN is the Zimbabwe currency and it's at .22, with the six zeros taken off. That's all I can tell you at this time.
T - Just got a text that Washington Mutual is taking over BoA. Their concern is that accounts were frozen. I don't want to take them out of the equation yet. I'm splitting mine up among several banks.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW...C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Is Maliki gone and what about the 1/1/14 deadline for the 3-zero notes? T - Maliki is not gone and won't be gone. Anybody putting out that we won't see the RV until Maliki is gone is wrong. He is not gone and it looks like it will happen today. The 3-zero notes apply in-country only. Our 30 days are still in place. Today is the 2nd and if it goes today that gives us 30 days.
T - The banks will have affliliate banks. You call the 800#, give them your zip code and they'll find you a local bank. They may not be up to date today or in the first hour. But within the first 4-5 days they should be up to date, definitely within the 30 days.
C - How can we find out if the smaller banks will handle the CE? CAn we call them? T - The only way I know is to call the local bank, call the 800# and let them tell you where. I don't see them having a list of banks in the US.
C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same bank. I would go in with the IQN. Not sur what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.
C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same RATE. I would go in with the IQN. Not sure what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.
T - Their intention is to hold the IQN rate for a certain amount of days while the IQD will come out at market rate. You should only be concerned with the IQN. The other rate (IQD) is for a whole other game you don't want to play.
T - CORRECTION: Washington Federal is taking over Bank of America, not Washington Mutual.
[patientlytrek] FLPatriot59 Washington Federal to acquire the 51 Bank of America branches in Washington, Idaho, Oregon and New Mexico. Deal set to close 12/6. They are not taking over the entire company.
[FLPatriot59] patientlytrek Good clarification. Thanks!
C - If it's the market rate will you still have to complete the NDA? T - My understanding is that if you exchange any currecny you will sign an NDA. If you wait until after January to avoid the NDA, you won't be doing a currency exchange anymore this way.
C - When will the 30 days start? T - It should start today. Dec. 2 gives us 30 days. Iraq is pulling their 3-zero notes on Jan. 1, so they need this to happen beginning today for the 30 days.
T - This may be our last call. Our next call you'll want the 800#s and rates. I will give you the best I can give before cashout. My understanding is that as soon as it goes live we should get the 800#s immediately because they will be waiting for you to call.
T - It is my hope that you learned things about world economy our govt etc, it is not all good but they try. Some people are greedy but the big picture is that we can prosper and be the country that people want to come to. It will be 10 years before we can write about this, or see the movie. But in 10 years no one will care. I hope that we changed people's character for the better. You will be the ones people in your family and neighborhoods will look up to. Remember what you went through to get here. You'll be funding things and they will ask for your input, leadership and guidance. "With much power comes much responsibility."
T - I got in this knowing that I had already been making my own decisions and sacrificing for a lot of people. That is what leaders do. Being involved in network marketing, owning my own business, sacrificing, etc. I know what that's like. I hope this has been a learning experience. When I got in it was supposed to be for a short period of time. There was a website out there telling people to send $300 and sign up for as a VIP, and they'd send your dinar to Belize. That was my first experience with absolutely big crooks. People were actually sending them $300 over to another country, fly there and hope somebody is standing there waiting for you with your millions. Who does that make sense to?
T - I tried to make that right and tell people and tell them "REALLLY does that make sense?" People are going to come at you like you have no idea. Scammers are getting ready for you. Now that you have the money these people will come at you. I'm telling you what to look for in the future because I've already seen and am aware of what people are planning to do with your email. Knowledge is power! You should NEVER pay money for knowledge. As long as they are doing it the right way if they offer you a legitimate service you should be able to pay that.
[FLPatriot59] TONY IS REVIEWING PTR'S EVENTS, PAYMENT PRACTICIES, ETC. AND WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
[FLPatriot59] NOTE: TONY IS TALKING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES WITH FORMER SITES. THIS WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
T - I'm just showing you things that have gone on over time...and probably is the last time I have to open your eyes and decide if you will be involved again.
[FLPatriot59] TONY IS NOW SHARING HIS OPINION ABOUT THE "GROUPS" - WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
T - If you think it was bad on other sites and you did not know it, you cannot imagine what's going to happen as you become a multi-millioniare. Months from now things will happen and you'll know you need to be aware of those things. I know that was a whole lot of info and I feel better knowing I did the right thing to open some eyes. You need to be thinking about this afternoon when you got the call with 800#s and what you're going to do.
"LIVE" CALL-IN RESUMING NOW...
C - I talked to several banks and asked how they will keep our money info away from the tellers up front? T - Ask your personal banker or wealth manager. You can have a separate account (a local account) that is separate from your other funds. You will be dealing directly with your PB or WM.
C - Will we still be allowed to CE a $25K note prior to our appointment? T - That is still in place. Depending on how much you have, 2-3 notes, they may be able to cash you out at one time.
C - Should we be concerned about anything happening in Iraq, i.e., budget, seating of ministers, etc.? T - No, it will not. They are scheduling this for TODAY. People are in the bank TODAY. The call I got before this call indicated that is still the goal. Right now that's where we're headed.
C - Do we have to CE with a major bank? T - It can be a M&P bank. Call the 800# and they will give you the affiliate bank to go to in your area.
C - Are the rates stabilized or are they tricking up/down? T - The rates among banks is differing by $10 but those aren't the actual rates.
C - Will you get Okie on the call when you make "the" call? T - Pam and Ray thought that would be cool. But when I get the numbers I can do a call on the CC and get 6,000 people on the call. If we add BlogTalk that will cover another 15,000. What I want to do is give Okie the okay and he will make the announcement. Then we'll post the 800#s ourselves on our forum and on www.tntsuperfantastic.com, .net and in the chat room. I'll be waiting 1-2 hours to cashout to do all of this but I will for you guys first!
C - Can you tell us more accurately when the 30-day window closes? T - No, because I don't know what time. It could go to midnight.
C - Any comments on a post in the Forum from "Judge" (the purpose of the NDA is to control our mouths AND our money, disclosures for anything over $5K, being labeled by HS as a terrorist threat, etcs.). T - So let me get this right: our gov't has gone for 10 years writing banking laws so we could get this money on Monday/Tuesday, deposit millions in our bank account, so we could spend $5K and they could arrest and lock us up? Really?
T - They did all this for the last 10 years, kept renewing 13303, get the rates that high, so they could arrest us when we spend more than $5K on money and investments we made? And this is all in an NDA so they can control us? They already write all the laws. This doesn't make any sense. If you believe any of this nonsense you do not deserve to have any dinar.
C - The DC guys said they wanted to get this done before Black Friday so people could quit their jobs. How has this delay affected this plan? T - People didn't get to quit before Black Friday. Anytime you give 5M people this kind of money it will affect the economy. Did they want this for Black Friday? Yes. Do they still want, by the end of the month, for Christmas, this kind of stimulus? Yes. It still will stimulate the economy this month, even though they missed the flash of Black Friday. They still want this done and that is the driving force.
C - Is there a date since they missed BF? T - I don't know there is a cutoff date next year. Everybody in DC is saying today is the day. The difference is that we (banks) have the 800#s. Major security is in place now at the banks.
C - You were on the phone with 3 letter agencies ...that they weren't going to have the rates go down during the 30 days ...so all would be comfortable about getting the high rate..please comment. T - They want to alleviate some of your stress if you don't get in there the very first day. The rate WILL go down in the 1st 30 days. I just don't know when in that 30 days it will go down. They think they can get 5M people through in the first 5-7 days. The rates will stay high. They don't want people panicking. You don't have to get in the first day. If it takes a couple of day, that's fine. The rates will be steady before the market takes over.
C - Is the rate close to what you said last time? T - On some screens it is. How's that. That's the best I can do. They asked me not to say anymore. Some idiot in NY walked into a bank and said "Tony said..." regarding the rates. Don't do that!
C - There's talk about private placements where you can get offers at the bank through those instead of through retail side? T - I do know there were some private deals being made through some countries. DC is aware of it because they authorized it. It's one of those deals where you have to know somebody.
C - Is the VND holding steady? T - I heard the rate 1.98 for the IQD that is being paid now and I heard other rumors that did not make sense to me. The VNN will probably go down faster that the other rates.
PAM - We got some great info and hopefully Tony will be doing another call today. He'll do a call later by himself because I'll be at the bank.
C = CALLER | P = PAM | T = TONY
C - Does Pam get all the info before you (Tony)? T - Absolutely, yes she does! LOL.
C - Is the email address we give when we call the 800# for our ID at the CE or is that so they can respond to us that way? T - I was told it would be for ID and that at your appointment they would ask for the email address you gave. You can always delete your email address after your appointment. When you call you're dealing with bank people. No worries.
T - This morning I got an email from PTR and it wants my email address and password to "view this document." I wondered if they were sending me a virus and found out others got it too. I sent it forward to another email address and my computer issued warning about it. My banking email will be strictly for banking. My new laptop will be strictly for banking. Nothing else.
T - We're waiting just like you're waiting. But everybody is saying today is the day. It didn't happen at noon, so whatever is the next time we usually say is the next time. You can talk about it on the boards. It's the same time they always say. Last night they just didn't call in the people. The called in US Marshalls, Homeland Security, local police offers, 3-letter agencies - they were all there and they are all there today. They've never callled them all in like that at the call centers. They're also going to be there at the banks - both obvious and plain clothes. They do not want people coming in acting like idiots, buses, etc. Otherwise, you'll be turned away and be put on the bottom of the list.
T - They're still wanting everybody processed in the first 5-7 days. The rates will hold for that time and then they will start doing what they're supposed to do. There will be Marshalls in place at the banks, regardless of what somebody else says. We need those people there in place because of the masses.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM....
Q - Since it's now back to the IMF, do we need to be concerned about the steps? BIS in the picture anymore? A - We are past all of that. It's between the IMF, UST and the banks. Everybody else has signed off on it. The rates are at the banks. The 800#s are at the banks. The IMF will determine what time is the release. The first time was at 9AM EST this morning. Then moved to 12:30 PM EST to make it fair to those on the west coast. Now we're moved to the next time. Hopefully this is our last call.
Q - Has everyone gotten their cookies so we can go in and get our crumbs? A - I don't think you can call what you're getting "crumbs." Especially based on what we thought it would be.
Q - If the CBI says all 3-zero notes will be worthless on 1/1/14, what happens to those notes we hold? A - The UST is taking all the notes in and using as oil credits.
Q - Is it true that BoA is being bought out? A - BoA was taken over in a a couple of states but I don't have anymore info on that.
Q - What is the corrrect syntax for the currencies? A - ZWN is the Zimbabwe currency and it's at .22, with the six zeros taken off. That's all I can tell you at this time.
T - Just got a text that Washington Mutual is taking over BoA. Their concern is that accounts were frozen. I don't want to take them out of the equation yet. I'm splitting mine up among several banks.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW...C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Is Maliki gone and what about the 1/1/14 deadline for the 3-zero notes? T - Maliki is not gone and won't be gone. Anybody putting out that we won't see the RV until Maliki is gone is wrong. He is not gone and it looks like it will happen today. The 3-zero notes apply in-country only. Our 30 days are still in place. Today is the 2nd and if it goes today that gives us 30 days.
T - The banks will have affliliate banks. You call the 800#, give them your zip code and they'll find you a local bank. They may not be up to date today or in the first hour. But within the first 4-5 days they should be up to date, definitely within the 30 days.
C - How can we find out if the smaller banks will handle the CE? CAn we call them? T - The only way I know is to call the local bank, call the 800# and let them tell you where. I don't see them having a list of banks in the US.
C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same bank. I would go in with the IQN. Not sur what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.
C - What is the difference between the contract rate and the international rate? Is that the IQN vs. IQD? Will the banks have 2 rates on the screens? T - I know right now the banks are all seeing different rates, even within the same banks. When the activation occurs every branch of a particular bank will have the same RATE. I would go in with the IQN. Not sure what will happen when it goes live. I'd ask for the IQN rate (which is the contract rate). The IQD is being called the market rate or international rate.
T - Their intention is to hold the IQN rate for a certain amount of days while the IQD will come out at market rate. You should only be concerned with the IQN. The other rate (IQD) is for a whole other game you don't want to play.
T - CORRECTION: Washington Federal is taking over Bank of America, not Washington Mutual.
[patientlytrek] FLPatriot59 Washington Federal to acquire the 51 Bank of America branches in Washington, Idaho, Oregon and New Mexico. Deal set to close 12/6. They are not taking over the entire company.
[FLPatriot59] patientlytrek Good clarification. Thanks!
C - If it's the market rate will you still have to complete the NDA? T - My understanding is that if you exchange any currecny you will sign an NDA. If you wait until after January to avoid the NDA, you won't be doing a currency exchange anymore this way.
C - When will the 30 days start? T - It should start today. Dec. 2 gives us 30 days. Iraq is pulling their 3-zero notes on Jan. 1, so they need this to happen beginning today for the 30 days.
T - This may be our last call. Our next call you'll want the 800#s and rates. I will give you the best I can give before cashout. My understanding is that as soon as it goes live we should get the 800#s immediately because they will be waiting for you to call.
T - It is my hope that you learned things about world economy our govt etc, it is not all good but they try. Some people are greedy but the big picture is that we can prosper and be the country that people want to come to. It will be 10 years before we can write about this, or see the movie. But in 10 years no one will care. I hope that we changed people's character for the better. You will be the ones people in your family and neighborhoods will look up to. Remember what you went through to get here. You'll be funding things and they will ask for your input, leadership and guidance. "With much power comes much responsibility."
T - I got in this knowing that I had already been making my own decisions and sacrificing for a lot of people. That is what leaders do. Being involved in network marketing, owning my own business, sacrificing, etc. I know what that's like. I hope this has been a learning experience. When I got in it was supposed to be for a short period of time. There was a website out there telling people to send $300 and sign up for as a VIP, and they'd send your dinar to Belize. That was my first experience with absolutely big crooks. People were actually sending them $300 over to another country, fly there and hope somebody is standing there waiting for you with your millions. Who does that make sense to?
T - I tried to make that right and tell people and tell them "REALLLY does that make sense?" People are going to come at you like you have no idea. Scammers are getting ready for you. Now that you have the money these people will come at you. I'm telling you what to look for in the future because I've already seen and am aware of what people are planning to do with your email. Knowledge is power! You should NEVER pay money for knowledge. As long as they are doing it the right way if they offer you a legitimate service you should be able to pay that.
[FLPatriot59] TONY IS REVIEWING PTR'S EVENTS, PAYMENT PRACTICIES, ETC. AND WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
[FLPatriot59] NOTE: TONY IS TALKING ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES WITH FORMER SITES. THIS WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
T - I'm just showing you things that have gone on over time...and probably is the last time I have to open your eyes and decide if you will be involved again.
[FLPatriot59] TONY IS NOW SHARING HIS OPINION ABOUT THE "GROUPS" - WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED.
T - If you think it was bad on other sites and you did not know it, you cannot imagine what's going to happen as you become a multi-millioniare. Months from now things will happen and you'll know you need to be aware of those things. I know that was a whole lot of info and I feel better knowing I did the right thing to open some eyes. You need to be thinking about this afternoon when you got the call with 800#s and what you're going to do.
"LIVE" CALL-IN RESUMING NOW...
C - I talked to several banks and asked how they will keep our money info away from the tellers up front? T - Ask your personal banker or wealth manager. You can have a separate account (a local account) that is separate from your other funds. You will be dealing directly with your PB or WM.
C - Will we still be allowed to CE a $25K note prior to our appointment? T - That is still in place. Depending on how much you have, 2-3 notes, they may be able to cash you out at one time.
C - Should we be concerned about anything happening in Iraq, i.e., budget, seating of ministers, etc.? T - No, it will not. They are scheduling this for TODAY. People are in the bank TODAY. The call I got before this call indicated that is still the goal. Right now that's where we're headed.
C - Do we have to CE with a major bank? T - It can be a M&P bank. Call the 800# and they will give you the affiliate bank to go to in your area.
C - Are the rates stabilized or are they tricking up/down? T - The rates among banks is differing by $10 but those aren't the actual rates.
C - Will you get Okie on the call when you make "the" call? T - Pam and Ray thought that would be cool. But when I get the numbers I can do a call on the CC and get 6,000 people on the call. If we add BlogTalk that will cover another 15,000. What I want to do is give Okie the okay and he will make the announcement. Then we'll post the 800#s ourselves on our forum and on www.tntsuperfantastic.com, .net and in the chat room. I'll be waiting 1-2 hours to cashout to do all of this but I will for you guys first!
C - Can you tell us more accurately when the 30-day window closes? T - No, because I don't know what time. It could go to midnight.
C - Any comments on a post in the Forum from "Judge" (the purpose of the NDA is to control our mouths AND our money, disclosures for anything over $5K, being labeled by HS as a terrorist threat, etcs.). T - So let me get this right: our gov't has gone for 10 years writing banking laws so we could get this money on Monday/Tuesday, deposit millions in our bank account, so we could spend $5K and they could arrest and lock us up? Really?
T - They did all this for the last 10 years, kept renewing 13303, get the rates that high, so they could arrest us when we spend more than $5K on money and investments we made? And this is all in an NDA so they can control us? They already write all the laws. This doesn't make any sense. If you believe any of this nonsense you do not deserve to have any dinar.
C - The DC guys said they wanted to get this done before Black Friday so people could quit their jobs. How has this delay affected this plan? T - People didn't get to quit before Black Friday. Anytime you give 5M people this kind of money it will affect the economy. Did they want this for Black Friday? Yes. Do they still want, by the end of the month, for Christmas, this kind of stimulus? Yes. It still will stimulate the economy this month, even though they missed the flash of Black Friday. They still want this done and that is the driving force.
C - Is there a date since they missed BF? T - I don't know there is a cutoff date next year. Everybody in DC is saying today is the day. The difference is that we (banks) have the 800#s. Major security is in place now at the banks.
C - You were on the phone with 3 letter agencies ...that they weren't going to have the rates go down during the 30 days ...so all would be comfortable about getting the high rate..please comment. T - They want to alleviate some of your stress if you don't get in there the very first day. The rate WILL go down in the 1st 30 days. I just don't know when in that 30 days it will go down. They think they can get 5M people through in the first 5-7 days. The rates will stay high. They don't want people panicking. You don't have to get in the first day. If it takes a couple of day, that's fine. The rates will be steady before the market takes over.
C - Is the rate close to what you said last time? T - On some screens it is. How's that. That's the best I can do. They asked me not to say anymore. Some idiot in NY walked into a bank and said "Tony said..." regarding the rates. Don't do that!
C - There's talk about private placements where you can get offers at the bank through those instead of through retail side? T - I do know there were some private deals being made through some countries. DC is aware of it because they authorized it. It's one of those deals where you have to know somebody.
C - Is the VND holding steady? T - I heard the rate 1.98 for the IQD that is being paid now and I heard other rumors that did not make sense to me. The VNN will probably go down faster that the other rates.
PAM - We got some great info and hopefully Tony will be doing another call today. He'll do a call later by himself because I'll be at the bank.
C = CALLER | P = PAM | T = TONY
C - Does Pam get all the info before you (Tony)? T - Absolutely, yes she does! LOL.
C - Is the email address we give when we call the 800# for our ID at the CE or is that so they can respond to us that way? T - I was told it would be for ID and that at your appointment they would ask for the email address you gave. You can always delete your email address after your appointment. When you call you're dealing with bank people. No worries.
T - This morning I got an email from PTR and it wants my email address and password to "view this document." I wondered if they were sending me a virus and found out others got it too. I sent it forward to another email address and my computer issued warning about it. My banking email will be strictly for banking. My new laptop will be strictly for banking. Nothing else.
C - Back in June we were told there was an
in-country RV. Can you explain that? T - That was for contractors and we were
supposed to see it in July. Then it became all political and power moves. The
did have an in-country RV and they're waiting for it go international, which
should be today. There is nothing they need to do for us to see this.
T - I'm down to my last 3 minutes. There's a "Pastor Elroy Miller" who is sending out an emails about me and my background, saying I'm giving high rates so I can steal your dinar. I don't care if he's a pastor or not. That is ignorance and he's an idiot. I have not asked you to partner with me on anything nor have I asked you for anything. What kind of a church leader does that? Some take kindness for weakness and I've tried to be kind. Sometimes you have to call an ignorant ass an ignorant ass. It is what it is.
T - Last night they got hyped up for this like you wouldn't believe. This morning they brought them ALL in. At 5 minutes to 9AM EST the rates were live at the banks. At 12:30 PM EST they were live with an administrative hold. Right now they are bringing to people into the banks to go to work. Security is like we've never seen it at the call centers. Undercover and uniformed police are there now. There are enough days and time before the rates go down for you to be taken care of. That's the message I'm asked to give you. They want this organized and calm. Hopefully it won't be long and we'll be posting the 800#s. That's it for the day. All the news is positive. Everybody is saying today is our day and hopefully it won't go to midnight. Enjoy your day.
END OF CALL.
T - I'm down to my last 3 minutes. There's a "Pastor Elroy Miller" who is sending out an emails about me and my background, saying I'm giving high rates so I can steal your dinar. I don't care if he's a pastor or not. That is ignorance and he's an idiot. I have not asked you to partner with me on anything nor have I asked you for anything. What kind of a church leader does that? Some take kindness for weakness and I've tried to be kind. Sometimes you have to call an ignorant ass an ignorant ass. It is what it is.
T - Last night they got hyped up for this like you wouldn't believe. This morning they brought them ALL in. At 5 minutes to 9AM EST the rates were live at the banks. At 12:30 PM EST they were live with an administrative hold. Right now they are bringing to people into the banks to go to work. Security is like we've never seen it at the call centers. Undercover and uniformed police are there now. There are enough days and time before the rates go down for you to be taken care of. That's the message I'm asked to give you. They want this organized and calm. Hopefully it won't be long and we'll be posting the 800#s. That's it for the day. All the news is positive. Everybody is saying today is our day and hopefully it won't go to midnight. Enjoy your day.
END OF CALL.
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