TNT Call 11-Apr-2014 Notes
Pam: RayRen has just
put three more seminars on the books; where are they? What are the
dates?
RayRen: Outside Chicago
at Napierville IL, at Queens, NY and outside LA. People can PM, but I
don’t go in there every day. I’d just like it to stay with TNT and
OpenMike people for now.
Pam: I think everyone
should hear Ray’s information, and you need to go to someone you trust.
Be careful, folks!
Tony: Are we ready?
Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, April 11, 2014. We never
thought we’d be here on this call. This is where we are today, explain
about what’s going on, and then answer some of your questions live and also
from the forum. I can’t answer them all: there are 50 in the forum
and 65 with their hands up. Here’s how you can help. If I answer
your question from the forum, or with someone else, please put you hand down!
Here’s the deal: there
is a lot of information out there. We know about where we are in the process
and meeting the date/time requirements. I will tell you that this is very
sensitive where we are in the situation. The important thing is that the DFI
funds were released on Monday, and most know what was required for that to
happen. It was public knowledge and broadcast on US television at 2.30am.
It was public! That let’s you know that if nothing else, the process is
ongoing and we are in the process. By the process, I mean the GCR and the
RV itself. The DFI were not to be released until after the RV. You
can’t get any plainer than that, if you look at EO 13303. They’ve done
it; it’s been released.
The bond sales did go
through, the rate was $3.71; how can you sell bonds and ship cargo
without an international currency? I know some things I cannot tell you,
but what I can tell you is that I’m okay and excited and feeling really good
about where we are. Pam posted that in the forum yesterday: this is
the calm before the storm. I felt that yesterday and the day before, and also
right at this moment.
I’m trying to tell you what
I’ve told others: I’m not stressing about it, I’m not overly concerned
because I know it’s going on because otherwise those things would not have
happened. This is about to be over. I know people are frustrated because
we’ve been saying this since Monday, but that should tell you how involved it
is.
Iraqi elections started
today, and everybody we talked to wanted it done by today. The fact of
the matter is that nobody is arguing, fussing or fighting. The only thing
that people is upset is that it hasn’t happened already. We still know
things are being done. It could show up in the next three minutes, hours or
days. I Know that everyone is doing everything possible to make it
happen, so that’s what you should feel good about.
Some have had it explained to
them that they will be dismembered if they put information out, because it’s
that tight right now. They are that concerned about anyone saying anything that
could disrupt the finish. That’s where we are, and it’s a good thing. The
call centers, exchange centers and security are all there, and being briefed
every day this week, reminding them of the process and procedures. We are
all just waiting.
In know you are frustrated
from hearing this, but imagine you were Pam, Ray, or DC, getting the
blow-by-blow every couple of hours, and you wake up in the morning and it’s
still not here. Is it really this hard? Does it really take this
long? Yes, it is. It is what it is. It hasn’t stopped,
everyone is anticipating it, making announcements around the world, and it’s
all good. I don’t think they are trying to stretch it out; everyone is
saying “push, push, push” and “get it done”. Everyone worried about it
not happening or it’s a scam – that says more about their level of
understanding.
The bonds have been sold, and
all this information is in public, if you look for it. The bonds and the
rates on their cards are both $3.71, so how people can think it will be less
than $2 is beyond me. We are in a great position.
Q: Can you tell us if
China has put in a new back wall? What were you hearing that made you
think it would happen last week? The same things I’m hearing now.
After DFI funds went on Monday and such, we saw this could happen at any
moment. It’s just putting the pieces together, and then we’re done.
Q: Can you confirm that
the voting rights in IMF has no bearing on this? Yes, it has not effect.
Q: Can we do the
contracts rate first and then the market rate, or vice versa? The NDA
says that you cannot use this money to buy any more currency, but I haven’t
read the NDA myself yet so I’m not sure of the details. I believe you can
buy at the market rate regardless, you can’t just go pay off your reserves.
Q: Is there any plan to
give priority to US vets? I have not heard of any such plan that
distinguishes vets for other US citizens. We can have OUR plan to do
that. You can do that on a national basis, or locally in your community,
just to say you’ve helped and you’ve give back.
Q: Are these the same
sources that told you we should have this for the holidays? We are in a
very different position than we were before the holidays. We have gone
through a lot since then. The position is different although the sources and
the process are the same, and I still believe them. Sources give out the
information they have; they are not the decision-makers. No one
like CL, the President, Jack Lew or Maliki has called me directly.
Q: Some intel people
(like D Schmidt and Mtn Goat) are saying this is held up for the IMF
restructuring or to embarrass someone? I don’t know who D Schmidt
is; I think he is involved with that group and the call that said Okie
was threatened to keep him off that call; Okie says not. Mtn Goat
has had similar info to our, but it was too anti-government for me. Does
the IMF voting have anything to do with this? I got that from an Canadian
source, saying the vote has been put off, and this wasn’t going to happen until
after then. I don’t just look at the source of the information but at the
information itself, and all the other information to see if it makes
sense. They sold the bonds last week, and the released the DFI funds on
Monday. Why would we vote on that two weeks ago when we’ve been waiting
for two years, and now they are going to hold up the entire global economy
waiting for that vote, when Iraq has put out the lower denominations and they
agreed with Maliki that it should be released for this election cycle… Who does
that make sense to?
Q: Will you be
releasing names and info of the crooks who have been stealing from us? We
have bee putting out warnings for years. People are trying to get your
names and phone numbers to sell to their people who want to buy the list of new
millionaires. I’ve told you what to look for in those people. I don’t
mind giving my private information to the bank, but there is now way I’m going
to send my name, address, SS number, passport, fingerprints to someone I’ve
never met. That just doesn’t make sense in this world of identity theft,
especially when you don’t know how they are going to use it. Just apply
some common sense. That just doesn’t work for me, so…
Q: Are there still
elites and private placement groups being cashed out? I think people are
still receiving SKRs, but no one gets money until we all get paid
together. Those groups are saying you have to wait 90 days or two years –
that is just scare tactics to get you to sign up.
There are 50 countries on the
TNT site now; why don’t we all go to Twitter and talk about what we will
do post-RV to help others? This will not push it through, but this will
give people good ideas. After the RV, you will be so busy. If you can
give each other ideas NOW for good things to help your community, town, country,
or internationally. IF you have your Ten Things, IF your documents are
in place, IF you have everything done, then spend some time looking at
things in the future and talk to each other on the same team to help vets,
orphanages, those who age out of orphanages who have to leave when they are 18
because the government doesn’t have a program. People can give help and
advice on how to set that up, and then use that as a cookie cutter to help
their own community. It’s a good time to put that together.
Q: What about that $5
at WF? I can’t answer that; call them.
Q: Is there progress on
‘everything is done’? Every hour of every day, the little things are
getting accomplished until it is finally here. Go and find out for
yourself, do some research and see what makes sense. Today, based on what
I know and can’t say, you will have to take my word that everything is moving
forward.
Q: They keep saying
“don’t mess it up”, but for whom? Don’t mess it up for US; we are
the ones with no money or SKRs in our bank accounts. If we mess it up at this
point, we are messing it up for ourselves. I’m not going to get involved
with negotiations our country is making. What I’m concerned with is US;
WE don’t want to do anything to mess it up. When I get the calls and we
talk about where we are in the process, they tell me to be confident in what
I’m saying, but don’t mess it up. They really want me to shut up and
leave it alone.
Pam, can I talk to some
people now?
Pam: You make it sound
like you listen to me!
732 caller: I know it’s
a process, it’s just been three to four months that we have been waiting!
Tony: Three and four
months we’ve been going back and forth, getting this done and making that
change. We are not doing that now. Now it’s “do this to get it out
to the public!” It’s totally different from the last three or four
months.
Caller: I follow you
and listen, although I still go to work, but you have said that we are THERE,
at that one inch line just waiting to pound it in. Compared to We are the
People… [rant about politicians] I ‘ve been through it all with
politicians on the local level; I just have that feeling that there is
the holdup. I know you say we’ve got both Democrats and Republicans
working for us…
Tony: We are the
people, we made a difference where we thought we wouldn’t, they went back and
changed the numbers, everyone is now in agreement… for everybody we’ve been
listening to, they thought it would be over BEFORE today. But they are
doing things, and changes to the system, and people, and things they didn’t
expect, but it is still all good and being pushed. I think everybody
needs to be happy and not as concerned as they were about all the issues that
have been resolved.
Caller: There was a
rumor that there was a sealed envelope that only the IMF and China knew when
the exact date was…
Tony: I don’t know
anything about that.
352 caller: On
Wednesday’s call, they contacted you that morning with those three options for
timing on this process: shotgun, 12 hours, a day or so. You stated
you preferred Option C, with more time. Has a decision made on that, or
any fallout?
Tony: They said, “We
haven’t made a decision and you don’t get a vote!” So they obviously
listened to the call, at least!
Caller: That’s
hilarious! I think everyone would like to have a chance to talk about the
information and be prepared before we walk in the door. You’ve pretty much told
us the RV has already happened. If this is just about the public rollout,
and we are already a couple of days into that, what is holding that up?
And for how long?
Tony: The RV has
happened. There is an official date and time for the RV, which doesn’t
matter to us because we still don’t have money in our pockets. Doing the
rollout is something that has to be done and they are doing it. There is
no holdup; it’s being done. They said that it could be done in ten
minutes, but the reality is that no, it can’t. We could see it in the
next three minutes, hours or days, but it’s not just one system. It’s
computers! We can download this around the world in ten minutes! It
just doesn’t work that way. There are procedures, they find things that
they forgot about… those things are still going through. They didn’t
spend ten years planning how WE will go through the banks. Some of those
things are still being done. It is being done, it’s being pushed forward, and
people are not stopping to talk about the IMF or China. It’s all about
the procedures now.
Caller: Did something
excite you last night to make you post: It’s the calm before the
storm? Did something happen?
Tony: Pam called me and
asked what message she could put out! I was excited because of what I
just told you: it could have come out at any hour last night. We
get frustrated because we know exactly how close it is. Then when it gets
quiet, then we get the message “Look at this time”. Shoot, I thought I would
wake up to it this morning, and this nightmare will be over. I cannot
wait to the day I can wake up and it’s over. I was looking for it all day
yesterday, too.
Caller: You are feeling
just what we are feeling, then. You talked about predators who are doing
calls or sending emails about the dinar and the dong. Message to the
powers: You have many people waiting for this. Tony is a trusted
source of information. When the only thing he can say is ‘any day, any
time’, good people get frustrated and they are hurting and they are prey to
these sharks. Please push this through!
Tony: I got another
request from a three-letter agency for details of these people and
groups; they will be investigated, and the authorities will take care of
the rest. Hopefully we will see what has been happening over the last
couple for years, and it will be a life lesson for many.
702 caller: I’m a
little confused about Who Moved My Cheese. You keep seeing the minute you
get the 800 numbers you will run to the bank and then tell us about it.
Won’t you be the first mouse?!
Tony: No, I’m
not. First of all, I am hoping that they will give me the information in
time that we can have a call before we go to the bank, so we can explain it and
then go. I know how to take the $3.71 rate and make it $15, so I’m not in
the same situation of others who cash out at the $3 rate. As I said about
Sterling, he cannot do that rate lock for everyone, so if I tell you what I’m
going to do, it will change. But I will not be the first mouse;
I’ll be the one who gets the factory. I do hope to give you the
information and answer questions at the time, because it will be done.
I’ve given people strategies in the past, they were listening to the call, and
went out and blocked that possibility. So we are trying to be a bit more
quiet about the exact steps we’re going to take. I feel like I know the
timeline, what the cap should be when it runs up, and that is a whole other
strategy. But I cannot say that on a call to 250,000 people, because they
will change the date, rate and timeframe. But we have talked about this over
the years, with indicators that should give you an advantage if you are paying
attention.
Caller: Please send
prayers of protection for those in Bunkerville, Nevada, which is close to a
civil unrest situation.
Tony: I read about that
morning, and I’m just hoping this is not the match that lights the fire.
Skype caller: I’ve been
listening to you for a while, and of course we take everything with a grain of
salt. It feels like they have the carrot dangling in front of us, and we
know some people didn’t want this to go public. As this RV goes on, I
fear they will say that we will not get a public release here. We k now
it’s not a scam, but will it get down to us, we the people?
Tony: here’s the first
thing – we are giving you information they never planned of your having.
I give you more than I should, perhaps, in the moment, but I like people to do
informed so that they can make better decisions. There is so much
information that you don’t have, that lets me know that they are absolutely
going to do this, and for the public. There are idiots out there that say
Tony is pulling off the greatest con in the world… or our government is going
that. It don’t think that is possible. There is too much out there in
forums, documents, etc., for anyone to say that this isn’t going to happen for
the public. This is absolutely going to happen, they have briefed it to many
times, they cannot go back to all those governments, agencies, and all the
rest. It’s not going to come out any other way than you and me going to
the bank.
Caller: Anyone with
common sense would never say Tony is a con artist, but it just seems as if the
powers keeps saying we are three minutes away… [exact same rant all over
again.]
Tony: It is still
coming from good sources, and it’s still saying “this is the plan, this is what
we are getting accomplished”. This part has got done, and others are in
process. I wish I could tell you exactly what I am hearing and who I’m
hearing it from, but we’ve had people get fired and be threatened, so we will
protect our sources. You’ll have to take some of this on faith. I
don’t put out a message I don’t believe in, and that’s why I put out that
message last night.
Caller: So when can we
expect this?
Tony: I thought I was
going to wake up to it this morning, and this thing is finally over. It
really could be in the next hour or ten hours; if not, I expect it over the
weekend. I know where we are, and whatever it takes to get it over this last
hump… I think we are there. People are preparing like we are.
People in the meetings are talking about this in the past tense, and now they
are talking about how to spend this money. The news and television
articles are coming out at 2 and 4 in the morning, and they can point to
them, that they were out in public. That got me excited, but those
are the final things to be done. Once it’s done, we’ll be there.
Caller: Do we have
confirmation that it was publically announced, or do we have to piece it
together from public articles?
Tony: That those are
the things coming out and it’s being done? Yes. I can hear it and
see it. It’s not to make the announcement to US, it’s to over themselves
and say that it happened in the open, not in some back room. That is what’s
going on right now.
415 caller: Thank you
very much, Tony! I’ll get off the line…
316 caller: 1.
When the RV is initiated, before we can exchange, will there be a backdating on
the reserve, like with a stock ownership?
Tony: NO.
Caller: We control
currency in three different names: her name, my name, and a
non-profit. Is there anything special I need to do with respect to the
non-profit, and/or any advantages apart from the tax-exemption?
Tony: I don’t know.
Maybe you want to go to RayRen’s seminar.
Caller: Is there any
spending restriction on the money coming out of these exchanges? Someone
said something like “no seditious activities”, which is a broad area…
Tony: there are several
different NDA out there. I do know that Homeland Security is keeping an eye on
this no matter what rate you take. They will track this money, with or
without an NDA. They are looking to see who you are, and they are
definitely watching the purchases you make, the cash flow and not just to catch
the average guy doing something wrong, but for people funneling money to
terrorist organizations, right-wing or left-wing, political
organizations. But apart from that, just because you have millions they
will be watching you.
Caller: Do you know how
long we will have to do all this? How far out should I push this
appointment with the bank?
Tony: Let me get the
package and see. They don’t want everyone to rush in, trampling on each
other on the way to the bank. On the other hand, they don’t want people
to wait 60 or 90 days either. They want to get this over with. They
say 30 days, but is this the actual amount of time? I’ll see what’s in
the package.
404 caller: About the
NDA, will there be provisions for disclosure to the IRS and also the bank for
the CCC letters?
Tony: The bank will be
doing it, so they will know (or the exchangers, and they will know). Once
you’re in the bank, that’s when you will want the bank to give you the CCC for
other purchases. Otherwise, I understand you cannot tell your lawyer or CPA;
they don’t need to know where you got the money from.
Caller: When the news
comes out, will it go immediately into effect or will there be a grace period
so that we can put in a sell order and then get our reserves to exchange at the
higher rate?
Tony: The market rate should
change immediately. Call your exchanger before you put in your sale order
and see what he is offering!
Caller: On the 800
numbers, are husbands and wives considered one entity, or can we go separately?
Tony: If you have your
own dinar/dong, then you can call separately, or as you choose. I have
one gal and guy who doesn’t want me to tell the other they have dinar!
Caller: Anything
announced in the mosques this morning?
Tony: Not that I
know. Iraq is just like us: excited and frustrated.
Caller: When will you
be in Atlanta?
Tony: I won’t know
until the RV is live! It will probably be a couple of days. I want to do
a few things, and we will have to find a big enough venue for 1,200 people or
so. We just want to do a meet and greet in the area. Our main thing
will be in Vegas. There will be at least 48 hours, I think. WF has
agreed to do a ‘Welcome to Being Wealthy Class’ at each event I go to , and we
have to get that set up, so I may have to come back to Atlanta a few weeks
later, again. The main event will still be in Vegas.
808 caller: Everyone is
waiting. Is this a stalling tactic? I know you have been giving us
what information you can, but when is it going to happen?
Tony: If I could answer
that question, I could save myself a lot of money. I don’t know when. I
know they are trying to do it; it’s being activated. It’s taken
longer because there were some step that weren’t anticipated, including changes
of personnel. But the real powers are talking like it’s already happened,
and the lower ranks are making it happen. It’s very close, as when Pam
sent out the message yesterday. It could happen at any moment. I
don’t know when that moment is, but it could happen at any moment.
Caller; It’s not Iraq,
the US, or the IMF holding us back…
Tony: Nobody is holding
it back; everyone is in agreement. The IMF is still in the driver’s
seat. They are getting it done.
760 caller: The DFI
funds have been realized, and the Kuwait RV had a ten-day bumper time before
they released it to the public? Is that happening here?
Tony: I don’t think
so. There are other agreements in place that this should get done.
Caller: I heard this
morning that there were rates on the VNN on Forex, that is was fluctuating…
Tony: I didn’t here
that, so I don’t know.
Caller: About the
reserves, did you say that we cannot purchase our reserves from ANY money that
you have exchanged?
Tony: The NDA says that
you cannot use the money from your first appointment to pay off your reserves
or to buy new currency. But you will not have to sign an NDA for the
street rate.
905 caller: I am
superfantastic and very excited. There’s a book on the site, My Big Fat
Wealthy Life. Someone form TNT put it together; what’s your
opinion?
Tony: I don’t know
because I haven’t read it.
Caller: Is there
anything substantial we are waiting for?
Tony: No. I
almost wish there were, because then we would know what we are waiting
for! Everyone is in agreement, and they want to get this done.
Caller: Looking forward
to this weekend, and also to meeting you in Las Vegas!
763 caller: Are we
there yet? Are we there yet? When they sold these bonds, is that
money actually funding the dinar?
Tony: No, they were
going to pay us before the bonds. We are talking oil credits over 30 to
50 years for our dinar. They don’t need it right now.
757 caller: I’m good,
working on my taxes, having a lot of fun! You having said anything lately
about the claw back thing, or about the number of rates.
Tony: They asked me NOT
to talk about the rates or the dates. We will have an opportunity and be
treated fairly, and all I can do is to go with that until something else
happens. We have to support the people who supported us, so we have to
play it out and see what happens.
661 caller: When we
were told back in November that this great Thanksgiving, and then the same in
December, and yet we are still here… they have lied to you intentionally so why
do we have to believe them now?
Tony: When the promises
were being made by certain people, we went through our process of getting upset
and letting it be known, those same people became our allies and created a new
plan. So we are not relying on the same people 100%, because some didn’t know
that they didn’t realize we were not standing in line behind them. So
it’s a little different. Someone then made contact with us and promised to make
things right. I believe people until they give me a reason not to, and then I
don’t. I’m nobody special, and don’t see why people should lie to
me. If someone does lie to me, then I don't believe anything he
says. There is no ‘kiss and make up’ in business or in making a deal.
I’ve had actual business partners steal money from money. After someone
lies to me, I cannot believe them any more. That’s how I look at it when
they tell us what is going on and how it’s going to work. They said,
“Okay, we didn’t treat you guys right and we are changing it to be fair”… how
can I argue with that? They have agreed, so what is the point of running
Twitter up again?
Caller: It was so easy
for the elite while we wait and wait, and that seems unfair…
Tony: It is unfair, but
we cannot put spilled milk back into the bottle. It was scheduled to
happen before the 1. December. Then it changed and got
renegotiated. Now it isn’t about us now. They are not negotiating
with each other about the dates and rates any more, or about whether we would
get paid. That was true in December and January, but that changed and we are
going to have the opportunity. Now the things they are adjusting are not
about us. The rates and dates now are not about us. Right now they
are not talking about those things; our goal in January was not to be
here in early April. But now we are here, and we don’t know how much
further it will go. It’s not about us as a group any more, in a negative
sense; it is about the rollout and how they can take care of us.
507 caller: How much
more can there be to do when the others exchanged months ago?
Tony: It changed.
There is not much to do now. From December to now, the process, the
personnel, the rates and the procedures all changed. They now know how
many of us there really are who could have an effect on us. December was
easy: go to the bank and pay them. It’s a little different now.
Caller: Can’t they see
that they need to shoot or get off the pot? There is going to be a stampede…
Tony: there are
something like five million people now; we have 240,000 educated people
on Twitter now, and they are the ones who are educated enough to call the 800
numbers in the first few days. They can make it easy for us. It’s
the rest who don’t know what to do, and they have to have something in place to
deal with that. Again, the same people aren’t involved in the rollout who
were there in December, and some of that had a lot to do with us and also with
the changing situation.
Yet again, I don’t know the
exact date and time. It is being done right now. It’s in the process.
Agreements that are in place need to be fixed. When that is done… maybe
tonight. This is about oil credits. It doesn’t make sense to buy
the currency back before they get those oil credits. They will still get
72 dollars or whatever the oil credits. Our rate will not affect the rate
established ten years ago. This is about how much the citizens will get to
stimulate the economy.
281 Caller: I’m
blessed; how are you? About Homeland Security… they are going to be
monitoring what political parties you support? That’s borderline
Communism.
Tony: You don’t think
they do that right now?
Caller: They are going
dig an even deeper grave if they do that. What gives these people to
decide who and what you support? We support mission work in 37 countries,
and we constantly send food, supplies and large sums of money around the
world. For instance, we need to send $200,000 to the Philippines to
rebuild a church and rectory; what kind of headache am I going to have?
Tony: All I know is
that you cannot move more than $500,000 in the first month. As you send
chunks of money out of the country, they will see if it is going from a
legitimate company or charity to a legitimate project. They have to monitor
that; it’s just a fact of life. That doesn’t have anything to do
with Communism, it’s about safety and security. They do that today,
without the RV. They track the money! They want to know where it’s
going and what it’s going to. Here is Sacramento, a politician was
arrested just two weeks ago for funneling money to a group for guns and
whatnot. There are laws against buying political positions. There
are going to be thousands, maybe millions of new millionaires, and we can get people
in and out of office, and they don’t want that.
Caller: I don't have
any problem with them scrutinizing what we do, it’s just the political thing.
Tony: Anybody can
follow me around 24 hours per day, I don’t care. If you want to spend
your time like that, I don’t care. I’m going to live my life.
Caller: [Prayer]
561 caller: First time
on the call, umm-hmmm. I’ve been following you for about four years!
[Can’t hear clearly, expressing gratitude]
678 caller: You said
that not everybody will sign the NDA, for example if you take the street rate?
Tony: That’s my
understanding right now.
Caller: If you cash out
one dinar at your bank (before having an appointment), can you go to Sterling
and then send it back to that specific bank?
Tony: That’s right.
Everyone can cash up one note, up to 25K dinar, without an appointment.
The rest they want an appointment for. You still have an option to do a
contract exchange at that appointment.
Caller: If you go to
that appointment at a different bank, so you have exchanges at two banks, is
that acceptable? I just want the highest street rates, not the contract
rates.
Tony: You can’t use
that money to pay off your reserves, but you can get a signature loan, for
example. But it doesn’t matter if you go to several banks. I plan
to use four banks, because I want to diversify in terms of banks and
investments and wealth managers. I don’t want one guy to tell me what to
do with my life, and he gets a paycheck for that.
It’s a NATIONAL 800
number; they will record it, ask for your zip code and offer you a choice
of three banks. Then they will call that bank and set up your
appointment. Once you are in that 800 system, they will know if you call
again.
818 caller: I have one
question: the N in the IQN threw me. It stands for New, doesn’t it?
That doesn’t meant that dinar already in circulation (circulated bills) is
going to be treated differently does it?
Tony: They will coexist
for a time, so don’t worry about it. As long as they go through the de la
Rue machine, it’s the same as any other currency. As with US currency,
the old bills and the new bills are both valid and usable. So don’t
worry.
916 caller: What
bank(s) will have stipulations about (possibly) leaving 20% there for 3
years? It’s my money, and I shouldn’t be enslaved to them for three years
if I exchange there. We should know which those are so that we can avoid
them! IF they want our business, they should drop that from their
contract.
Tony: If you get up and walk
out, then they will get the message. DC is keen on tier 2 banks because we’re
not seeing that with them; they are more flexible.
Caller; But we only
have shot at that 800 number…
Tony: If something like
that happens, you will go to the back of the line on the 800 numbers. We
don’t know for sure yet. You have to make this decision yourself, whether you
are willing to accept that control in exchange for a higher rate.
Caller: You said you’d
be depositing in four banks. You may have special contacts and be able to
make special arrangements.
Tony: I’m saying that
if I go in and exchange, I will not accept that kind of restriction. I
will then go to some other banks, and spread my money again. I’m also starting
my own bank! It’s about your own comfort level.
Caller: I know you said
“no rates or dates”. No one had a problem rates when they are going up or
stable. They only got upset when rates started going down, as if you can
keep everyone calm so that we don’t hold bureaucrats feet to the fire. I’ll be
grateful if it comes out at $.371, but out of the principle of the thing…
Tony: I understand your
argument. Let’s say you are 100% correct, but I cannot argue with someone
who says “I agree with you and we want to do what’s right”. There’s no
sense in arguing with that because they are saying “you will get a good
rate/opportunity, and people will be treated fairly.” So I say
Okay. I know who these people are, and I have to believe them until they
prove me wrong. They are in a high enough position that I have to believe
them. Everything else is out of our control. We cannot argue with
the government. We just want our money, even if the dollar devalues by
10%. You want to argue about that, right here on a public call? I’m
not going to do that because it doesn’t help us, and it hurts everyone who
doesn’t have dinar. That is our government’s business and I’m going to
let them do that; it’s not about me. What is happening now is not
about us. In December it was about us, and now it isn’t.
Caller: Another thing
that has been sitting poorly with me is that early on we were told that
the rates would start going down before the end of that 30-day period.
For 60+ days, the elite got the $30+ rate. So … that was an arbitrary
timeline? Now when you say not everyone is going to get it, don’t know
how long this will last. But if the government let their cronies
could exchange for more than two months…
Tony: Let’s be
realistic. Let’s say they didn’t do that in November, December. If
they had put out the 800 numbers then, who would have got the first
appointments? For themselves. We would still have come in
later. Realistically, they cannot pay six million people $32 dollars, so
they have to set a timeframe, and they cannot tell us when that will run
out. That’s why it’s going to be quiet, and not everyone will get
it. I just want them to be fair. I don’t know what the numbers are,
but I do know that they feel they can get 250,000 of us done in the first three
days, in terms of staff and locations. So we are not talking about the 30
days any more. I’ll see what is in the package. As far as the numbers
going up and down, though, that would never last for 30 days.
Caller: Once you
clarified this, in the beginning, you said there were so many of us, and many
more of the others, and you said we will get the higher rates…
Tony: There are 20,000
on TNT, and 240,000 on Twitter, and I am tweeting the 800 numbers so all of
them have the opportunity to get the faster appointments. We have the
best opportunity to get those higher numbers.
Caller: I do have one
concern that’s cropped up in the last two months. I know Pam does a fantastic
job on the calls and in the forum. You said that this is an adult site,
and that if you cannot handle the truth, don’t listen. Now you seem to
have established Pam as a one-person gate telling you what you can and cannot
say.
Tony: Look, every
morning we have a briefing call. The agencies have an input, and some say
“can you NOT do a call?” and “can you say this or not say that?” and I have
decisions to make about what to say or not say. Sometimes they go against
each other! I have to look at all that, and it’s easy to say Pam said to do
this or not to do this, so it’s easy to blame her. Sometimes DC tells me
the same thing, or I get a text or a call. I am here to get the information out
and make it as smooth as possible. I am sharing what I can, and sometimes say
things several ways so that people understand it. I’m giving the info on
what’s happening right now, today, as it happens. What comes true
or not, I cannot say. That’s what I mean by having an adult site.
You can listen to all the info; I am not making up anything to make you
happy or sad or direct you in any way. I cannot direct you and give you
options, and I have fun throwing Pam under the bus. You can decide
whether to listen or not, or just wait until the RV comes and we go to the
bank!
Pam is telling me that time
is up! I just got a quick update, everything is really good. I was
superfantastic last night and this morning. I do know what’s going on and
it could go any time over the weekend. Pam, can you get up from under
that bus and tell us what’s going on?
Pam: My britches are
stuck under the bus. Don’t worry about what Tony says; he doesn’t
listen to me anyway! Be nice to the Mods and transcribers,
everyone; they’re the heart of TNT.
Ray: have a great time, enjoy
the weekend, and I hope I can keep my travel plans together.
Tony: Pam’s right. Mods
work hard in the chat room to keep things smooth, so blow them kisses. DC
was sorry he couldn’t be here today, but he is excited. Have a great
day! I hope to talk to you later or sometime this weekend.
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