By DebTarHeelGirl
This weekend frustration was prominent on what is going on and all the different scenarios and it was affecting your trust in this investment. THIS IS GOD’s plan so please be patient as this plan unfolds…
Ali has a Tennessee website established in 2007 – it’s for a different company from that time frame and is a separate entity and non functional and Ali has sent emails telling them to please remove that website and shut it down as its old.… Ali is not selling any dinars.
Today we see posts from Steve L of People’s Dinar, Roger Wego of Dinar Daddy, Ali of Dinar Trade, and Adam Montana and maybe one more are leaving the internet intel scene….thanks for all your intel and rumors that you graciously shared with us in keeping us informed with this investment. We are not we will be here to the end…
Come sign up at Frankly Speaking http://www.frankvilladinar.com to become a member and so you can have access to our forum wealth of information… Massive email will be sent out to those signed up at Frankly Speaking when this RV occurs. I am in communication with Banks that will give us special rate for Frankly Speaking people…I will release a phone number to you to call to see exactly what rate they will offer to see if you would like to cash in there… Names of Banks, List of Dinar Daddy’s locations, I am working with Canada with Banks and rates to give to you, Puerto Rico information also….
Our Gov is working on taxing and the rate of same. The tax can’t be collected by a bank at cash in… Geitner spoke of a BIG windfall in taxes coming SOON to help lending – So Frank will offer you a menu of a smorgasbord for you to decide once the blessing comes… It’s a gift to guide you to make proper decisions on where to exchange…Our GOV is not ready for us as they do not know our tax rate yet….
Dinars – can you get some now – hard – Ali – nope not anymore – so now you can buy from Dinarbanker.com will give you a $10 discount if you put FRANK in the coupon code area – they will give me names only one person that wins the drawing for 50,000dinar contest – only of those that put FRANK in the coupon code when ordering.
Dame has set up a thread called Got Dinars, Now What – its being monitored by financial experts to answer our questions… http://www.frankvill...dinar-now-what/
Roy Strong Financial Advisor is with us tonight – He is hosting a Seminar which is being held this Saturday 5-14-11 in Toledo Ohio – at Frank’s church - Garden Park Christian Church, 8605 Salisbury Road, Monclova Ohio Reynolds Road has many hotels if you need to stay overnight. This seminar is to help explain what to do now about asset protection, minimize income taxes – capital gains tax info – teaching stewardship principles – how can you minimize or eliminate capital gains taxes… you can contact me at dinars@roymstrong.com or info@roymstrong.com 317-852-9774 is the office phone number – there is no capital gain for Frank for Frankly Speaking from this seminar. A Spanish translation will be researched for Spanish speaking people.
Delta is on the call -
1.0 Earlier this morning, Iraq was to have a major press conference. . . the conjecture was that this was the announcement that we have been waiting for. . . the meeting did happen today but it was the electorial committee meeting but not the investment per Delta was on TV .
2.0 This conference has been postponed until 5/11/11 according to a press release from Iraq.
Answer for 1.0 and 2.0 = They are not read to make this announcement- Delta states that yes that will happen then.
3.0 Geitner has gone on record stating that the debt ceiling does not need adjusting because of a “Major influx of revenue” into the US Treasury [taxes from this investment?]
It’s the only logical answer says Frank – there are quarterly taxes normally but this is the only logical answer that it’s the taxes from our cash in…. Chinese currency is held by US also so if it revals …so is it the Dinar- In Frank’s opinion I feel it’s the basket of currencies…
4.0 John McCain and Nancy Pelosi among others are in Iraq, as are all the major networks and newsies – not only the USA but Globally. . . and I don’t believe they are there for a picnic.
Let them all show up– FIND ME HILLARY then talk to me.
5.0 We have evidence of the fact that the remaining ministers HAVE been approved unanimously by parliament – in three separate articles from three separate sources.
Yes they were approved and that is rare in Iraq – in the GOI this is progress BIG – now vote on them – Delta says that last week the 3 names sent was NOT from the Iraqia list and now they say no voting on that cause of this list he was to get one from – good news is he could have passed this easy due to constitution need 50 + 1 to attend the parliament meeting and get 26 agreeing – but they are waiting – now with McCain there they are pressing to get this done – today 20 min ago Kurdistan coalition with National Coalition theu did settle EVERYTHING – met behind closed doors and they finished the list and Chief of CIA of Iraq will meet with the Kurdistan’s and Trade minister from Maliki’s list is supposed to give the Defense – one name was not from Iraqia list and that brought the frustration and today they met and did agree on this…and could vote on this tomorrow… as this has to happen as USA is there to say FINISH ASAP.
6.0 We have evidence that Basil, the Bank of International Settlements and the IMF have approved the Iraqi RI/RV
Frank said Our teams Evidence’s and I smile I understand what you are saying – Delta says all that is done even Shabibi said when he came here its all done and 6 banks are linked through CBI and linked International ready to go and waiting on the 3 zeros to be lifted to be recognized internationally. CBI has the rate…
7.0 We have three separate announcements from the CBI stating a “removal of 3 zeros” from circulation.
Frank says we have MORE than 3 articles and some are being recycled – the $3.33 article from yesterday was very confusing… all the rates levels are confusing… so we respect all the opinions of what each believe the rate could be…
8.0 We have CBI auctions in the last week or so, dwindle in amount to the point of ridiculous –the country cannot exist on the pittance of profit from the auctions. Rather they seem to be paving the way for Lower Denoms. . .
Country can’t exist on the auctions – Delta states – they are paving the way on lower denoms to come to life – the high auction today was because the sterilization has been completed and its ended – that brings on the high auction – the private banks in wire transfer rates were raised and 2 days ago from $10,000 to $50,000 per wire transfer with no requirement of who and from with no tax penalty there in Iraq…..and that is huge to go that high –
All we are now seeing and hearing is all GOOD GOOD GOOD…..
9.0 We know that oil contracts are being let, contractors are being paid and that the cards have been charged in-country.
Franks says right and also being paid in Kurdistan region also… Delta says that why Baghdad did not pay those company a long time ago – now they have the money- they have their hand in the DFI fund that’s why those people got paid now… that’s huge…
Everything is obvious not hiding no more – the article of lifting 3 zeros from the value today not from the rate – now they are telling everybody they are doing this – all the time now they do it all the time about the value –they are making it clear and waiting for the announcement to come out…
10.0 We know that in accordance with previous dictates, Maliki is out of time. . . he was given 100 days 100 days ago to sit a government and RV
Time is up Maliki -
11.0 We know that the US Treasury is pushing for this to conclude as is Shabibi
Yes he is and they are… they married themselves behind closed doors in February when they came out contracts were paid and auctions were sterilized for last two weeks… yes
12.0 We know that Globally, there are 57 immediate and over100 countries waiting or in the same basket to revaluate their currencies along with Iraq. . . waiting to fend off bankruptcy. . . that includes the USA.
That is a power statement above…
13.0 We know that Iraq has used the term “sterilization” heavily in the last week, when referring to their currency and economy. Sterilization is the process in which monetary authorities ensure that foreign exchange interventions do not affect the domestic monetary base, which is one component of the overall money supply… . Particularly when they are closing books on a failed or dying economy and opening a new economic chapter and want to preserve the sanctity of their economic balance. This is particularly so if issuance of the infamous lower denominations is forthcoming.
Part A they have arranged this to be able to cash us out….. Part B that is so brilliant the told us about the Sterilization – it ensures the domestic monetary base is not touched – this is what they are doing – this is great for us….
14.0 We have plenty of RUMOR that an experimental in-country RV has happened effective last week at a rate that we all would enjoy
NO comment says Frank
15.0 We know that there have been rolling blackouts on quite a few of the major forums, whether self imposed or imposed by “Others”.
Yes Ali has stopped, Roger Wego has stopped Steve L has stopped Adam Montana has Stopped – we can’t stop and we are not going to leave you hanging we will be here to tell you what’s going on – do not trust one place…
16.0 We know that Ali from Dinar Trade has ceased selling and buying both Iraqi Dinar and NV Dong in his California operation, effective middle of last week. His Tennessee operation, under a different name is still dealing though.
Frank says Ali said he has been asking this operation to be shut down – do not order from that website.
17.0 We know that the source of Dinar has all but dried up. . . most banks, including 5/3 have stopped selling Dinar and most of the small dealers have stopped selling.
That is true – today 5/3 updated Memo stated they WILL BE BUYING DINARS – when the exchange occurs- spread will occur
18.0 We know that there is a Major Arab/Muslim conference in Iraq starting on the 12th.
YES
19.0 We know that at this point, President Obama has rescinded GWB’s Presidential Order 13303, allowing for the purchase of IQD effective the 12th of this month.
There are two of them one has nothing to do with buying dinars but investing in Iraq only – 13303 order does allow to purchase dinar –s not sure if its coming to an end and being reinacted by our current President – it ended at a perfect time – don’t you?
20.0 We suspect major issues with the Federal Reserve and a strengthening of the US Treasury, visible in the last couple of weeks.
Financial advisors left and right we offer to you thought our website.
21.0 We have seen the price of crude well over $100/bbl, Gold at $1550/oz and Silver in the same all time high and yet they are falling now.
As we get closer to the middle of this month they will not starting even yesterday and today they will jump back up – they are trying to help Iraq – they made over 7 billion dollars just due to the recent increase that was to help the country of Iraq…Frank said no wonder they opened up those two accounts in New York – to help protect all that money… 90% of that oil came from Basra and northern Iraq and that didn’t’ include the rest of the oil places – can you image what other profits they can make. Yes the oil will drop a bit – they only need $76-$80 per barrel to make money good money…
The DFI money was transferred and they were able to pay those company’s recently as the country has NO money and now the DFI fund is their to use…
22.0 Earlier this morning, one of the major gurus, Stevel, tended his “Last Post” citing a couple of reasons, but, in my opinion, it is HUGE that he has issued what amounts to be an emotional withdrawal.
We will still be here
24.0 We have fresh articles indicating that additional contracts are being let by the GOI [which still has not been formally announced] to oil contractors, utility contractors and the like.
Many are doing electricity oil etc good stuff going on yes
25.0 We have Shabibi stating again, that a recognized GOI would precipitate the release of the RI/RV and that seems to be done.
The GOI is about to be formed as they finally agreed on the cabinet ministers to be voted on this week – Delta said he posted the article that says they agreed to name the key security post…today…from the meeting behind closed doors – the pressure is on them to activate the 3 ministries and then the GOI as soon as he sees the GOI seated he will RV the money and the budget and the contracts… this is proper protocol to do this and wait for the GOI – this with dignity to be in harmony together …. Delta states that press conference that Shabibi said he needs security for the CBI so he needs this relationship between the GOI and CBI – then he will feel comfortable to release the rate… Shabibi cannot survive anymore they have to be Int’ by July 1st and vote before June 30th but he can’t ait till then as there is NO MORE EXTENSION till then they have to do this now…maybe 1-2 weeks only but waiting won’t work… GOI and CBI has to be woven together…
26.0 We have proof that the Kurds have received partial payment from Iraqi oil profits which indicates a resolution of the HCL and Resolution141 for the Kurds and that Kuwait is very happy.
Kuwait is very happy – the Kurds are in charge -
I do not want to prejudice my own thinking in this, nor do I wish to prejudice yours but it seems that there is something still missing in this long time puzzle that we have been dealing with. . . Either that, or Tuesday through Thursday of this week really seems to be it. . . What, if anything, am I missing. . . Because like you, I really want to see closure. . . Now!
Frank States – Geitner, Shabibi all are saying VERY SOON…….
Tuesday, May 10, 2011
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Frank'ly i am out of answers----Posted by Eagleone Today at 4:22 pm
IF THEY FOUND ALL KINDS OF FILES/DOCUMENTS WHERE SUPPOSIVELY OSAMA WAS KILLED AGAIN (SEEING THAT HE WAS ALSO KILLED IN 2001); WHY HAVE THEY NOT FOUND OR MENTIONED THE DIALIS (SP) MACHINE THAT HE SO BADLY NEEDED TO STAY ALIVE? Posted Today, 02:14 PM Date: Monday, 09-05-11 09: 00 Baghdad (News) ...Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki with John McCain and his party, the political and security situation in Iraq.
Posted Today, 02:22 PM
The RV is coming dow the pipe.....patiance is trying me...Godspeed Posted Today, 12:01 PM [okie_oil_man] good morning america and ships at sea and all our world wide friends. From all intel received within the past 24 hour's it appears we are approaching the end of our journey to utopia. The end is so near you can feel it. Due to business involvement and also physical problems i have decided that now will be the optimum time for me to retire from the intel furnishing status that i have maintained for several years. I hope you understand my decision. I have enjoyed most of the time being able to share what i had with each of you that may not have had the opportunity and exposure to sources that i have. I god's richest blessing's on you all and have only wanted to be a messenger and a vessel to be used by the lord. I hope i have served that purpose--i may drop by occasionally to say hello but it had gotten to the point that the pressure and questions has taken a final toll on my mind, my body, and my spirit.--god bless you all and godspeed the r/v--goodbye Posted Today, 08:30 AM Could not find any news on the expected meeting today...but found this one..... Posted Today, 04:42 PM Longfellow's latest (from planet dinar): ________________________________________________________
Hello everyone,.... Posted Today, 07:25 PM - PTR cc transcript PTR CCall 5 9 11Please excuse typos! Dan, Tony, Wendy, Radtodd, Simon, ButchB and Special Guest - Okie Dan: A lot happening around the boards. Will discuss our thoughts. This will be a short call. Somethings better explained on the call re the contests, changes on the site and intel for the day. Not a lot. Dan: Bob G had a good suggestion of how to count the votes on the contests. One Tony made one up of taking my avatar and disrespecting it. We will be voting on that. Tony: I really only had 4 people submit those. They are really great. We'll put them up on the board and let everyone vote on those. Dan: The contest I had done was something fun for the weekend. Your thoughts off this journey. What has your journey been like? 3 - 7 lines. We are going to let it be judged by you guys - put a positive markers on there today and tomorrow. Will take the top 5 and have you guys vote on them. Best way to figure out how to do that. Do have another contest today and will do one everyday. I made a post - re the Anderson Law Group. Their website. We had so many people get left out of the last webinar. Their link is already posted. I am really impressed with them They are getting back to everyone pretty quick. I enjoyed the webinar. Will be on there tomorrow to introduce Clint. That is between you and them. Ask them ?'s on their site as we are not involved. Simon: I learned a lot from just being on that seminar. A lot of people think that the SF event is closed... Started from the old site... we should be promoting that event cause it will help people's future for a long time in a positive way. Dan: It got responded because of the Anderson Law Group. They are gearing up. We wanted to know how many people where coming. We did extend it because Clint Coons said they will accommodate as many people as come. A lot of things planned. The event costs nothing. The meetings with the attorneys costs nothing. Clint said they would do it in classes. We won't be doing much. This is the Anderson Law Group Event. The more people that come out the better. It will be fun. Tony: Can you clarify the costs nothing part? Dan: Yes if you are one of them! The $25 deposit is refundable at the event. We do have some stuff that is interesting besides that. Everything is on you when you get there. The event costs nothing. We will give you a list of hotels that are around the event and you will pay for everything you will be doing when you are there... food, room, car etc. This is not a profitable event for us. The expense to you is what you do there. There is a post up on the board about things that Tony and I have already arranged. We're just talking about having fun and trying to get people thinking about post rv so not so much thinking about pre rv. The hard part is the emotional attachment to the rv happening today everyday. We said let's rationalize on some of this intel, dispel some of this stuff that shouldn't be talked about... Tony: A bunch of ? on the board? What is going on today? What do I seen happening on the crystal ball. Got a call from Okie and told him I couldn't talk about it cause of this call..... Dan - One ? is Do you feel we are at the end that the RV is done? Is that why the gurus are leaving? Tony: I still feel we are there. I did get some other information. Let's look at this. 13303 expires on the 15th or 17th. It hasn't been renewed yet. One of 2 things will happen - we'll see the rv by then or they will renew it and we'll know we are a ways out. Today is the 9th. One way of the other your answer will be on the table. If it is extended... we area ways out. The other people you are referring to - ones I have talked to feels we are there. Intel has not changed. Last week almost every board saying the same thing. Today the same. Saying this thing has come to an end and you will see it this week. Could be what I said or that all people saying that it is this week. Dan: I am looking at these ?'s and a lot are redundant. We keep hearing about this 3 tiered thing - I don't think that is possible. Don't know if we will ever know. Might be something that happens but we can't answer. I don't think today or tomorrow but I also don't think it can go much longer. You get to a point that you are at a wall and I start over analyzing this stuff.. People saying why can't we just take it the way it is., We want to produce the news that we are seeing through out the internet - what we are seeing in the bis., imf, the govt and parliament... that has a little bit of a tell to it. The other side is part of put intel... sometimes good or bad. We start hearing that information is coming from the fed or the Treasury... we've all fallen for that one and at times may be true. But do you think that the people at the secretarial level etc... really know about this. Or is it the top 4 -5 people who know. One thing that got me excited is this is multiple trillion dollars and I think it will be hushed up of the last day/hour. Most of people who understand banking day they don't think that will be the exposure to the largest shift of wealth. Very difficult for one of those agencies to tell us the day or hour. Getting multiple people saying we are close. It is almost over. Problem is coming on these boards and with our own enthusiasm we get everyone pumped up and then people buy reserves. That's what bothers me - don't want people to lose that. Trying to as a group start cautioning ourselves. I am not being negative thinking it will go longer and longer... just want to decipher this. We got a call from another agency that pointed to this week being very plausible for this happening. That's about as positive ans I can put this week and the up and coming days. Not packing my bags and saying it is over. We haven't heard that yet. Tony: The intel we got this am was that they were meeting. some kind of announcement of things made tomorrow. Doesn't mean its the rv. means an announcement about something. may be it is I don't know. I try to look at the whole picture... looking at our site,,, other sites... the whole thing. Are people just like us who have information they shouldn't have... got it in a passing way and it continues down to us.. In big picture we shouldn't know anything about it but here we are. Information continues to grow. For same reaason it is wrong could be right. Have been having this conversation a lot. With all honestly - we will do the roght thing. Bring you the best information but I am not going to feel guilty if you buy reserves or more. You are adults and you should know that already. I respsect you and love you but I am not going to feel guilty. I am giving you the information as it comes. Dan: Why do you think all the people saying they are leaving? Okie is someone who has a love/hate relationship with a lot of people. We talk to him daily. Why would he be saying he is gone? Tony: I talked to him yesterday. I hope he doesn't mind this. Feels he has been giving 100% of what he has been getting and it has been unappreciated. Said he is tired. At same time - I am hearing the same thing you are hearing Tony - that it is over. He is looking for it to happen tomorrow or Wednesday cause that is the information they got last nite. I got the same information. Don't know. A lot of people out there getting tired. We are hearing the goi will be announced and expect the rv to be right after it. Know people have flown over there to make some announcement. heard they tried to do it on Thursday and then again on Saturday. The contracts are supposed to be coming out this week is what we are being told again. You see the newspaper articles as do we. Talking about removing 000's how the plan is completed, announcing their representatives... enough information or evidence or pieces of the puzzle to start completing this picture and that is the majority of the people receiving the information are saying. We don't claim to be gurus. We are getting information and we are giving information. Only talking about Okie not the rest of them He is 77 years old - has a reason to be tired. Dan: That's basically what the?'s are. Wanted to bring something up here and talk about but lost that thread. A lot of people saying that even the timelines and the dates going on... want to know if we know why people are leaving at this moment. The truth about Ali and his office, I believe are family related. A couple of offices being run by his backing. Lends itself to that he has shut down the so cal area, where he is. Talked to Ty - there is no clearing house person. He doesn't know about that. A rumor as well. A lot of rumors right now. Nothing going on with Ali except for that. Ty already gearing up for increased business. As people got to know Ty he became more trusting. In beginning only saw ali only and saw him on cnbc etc... I told TY I needed to see someone - he became my dealer of choice. All the stuff you are hearing about Ali should be put to bed. Just doing what he needs to do for himself. Tony: I agree with you. We researched the information about Ali ourselves. The thing about Ali in Kansas is nothing. Didn't have a license in KS and so for $20k now he does. You as individuals and what makes sense in that respect to be controversial. No controversy there. Shouldn't have been posted site to site. You have some responsibility. I know Check saying we want to do things better. You have some responsibility too. Dan: Think you should always hold yourselves to a level of responsibility to make things better. Tony: We get good intel. Just cause it's not the rv at 2 tomorrow... Still pieces of the puzzle. Things you wouldn't hear any other way. If I was on the other side I would appreciate that. Dan : Actually goo. Positive affirmation. keep hearing we are in that timeline. Said that about Ty cause he had something about a lawsuit in AR but the mods pulled that down. Make sure you are getting your information from a credible source. If you knew the background - it is stupid, They settled cause it was just a hassle. Would be frustrating got people to find things without know in the whole thing. Careful what we post. Keep it to yourself unless we all want to see it.. Tony: As usual I think it will be an interesting night and day tomorrow. Don't stay up all night. I never do., Have never done iy and never will. The intel and the reason those guys saying goodbye is cause it is saying tonight and tomorrow. Other than that they wouldn't be saying that. Dan: We are going to start foing on every conference call - a morning show early or late morning - a radio show of everything we can opull together on the phsyical noesws intel news and will discuss it with everyone we have on our calls. Every morning. News and rumors on that show. To do somehting mind of fun. Every time we do a call, including tonight... kind of a race. On a radio show they will ask a ? and then they take the first 100 calls and take the 99th caller... in the subject line put the date of the call. Email is 25k@peoplestalkradio.com At end of the broadcast we'll tell you what to put in that email. Send it then. The 100th email - we'll send 25k to that person. We'll do that on everyone of our calls. Dan - A guy doing the counting of this who has no agenda. Trying to keep this thing fresh. Part of this is camaraderie. Fact we get to do this with people we get ti to know is part of the fun. A building of something here I hope. We'll send out the 100k contest when that is done. Today's email send to 25k@peoplestalkradio.com./ Subject line is today's date and message - Just RV me. Tony: The guys who entered the dartboard cosntest - I did get the 4 at support@ peoplestalkradio.com.... Dan: Tony - there are more than 4 on our boards. We'll have them all posted and then vote on them. I want no part of our contest. Tony - You are a big part of it it is your picture. ? A lot of ?? on the board re the 13303 having nothing to do with the rv... Tony: - Getting a call from Iraq so give me a minute. Dan - I hate dead air time on a call. Simon - how did your call work out? Simon - basically totally different sources from you and Tony - not people on the sites. Both said the same thing that Tony is referencing - that we are at the door and will see it soon. Some one posted on the chat while on the call - I hope Dan doesn't turn the firehouse on the call..... I know not what you are doing. I am giving you as much as I've got. heard that we a re right here. Confirming what Tony said. Said for a year the closer we got the less information and the more confusing information is. Dan: A little bit of confusion out there. I know that if you want to hear every piece of information we get. Is there something wrong with trying to see what is good bad or just made up. 3 or 4 weeks ago - I got upset that it was put out there that Shabbibi said it was going to rv and the date and time. I said that I don't believe they would telegraph to the world that their money was about to go up and would be up three thousand times. I don't see that is ever going to happen. Will fall in our lap. I am on that with you guys. I just don't believe these merchants are changing the tags in the stores. For intel - should we as intelligent people say - this is exciting intel or this makes no sense to me... We can have that conversation if you guys think they will put it out there in advance so that we can go buy it by the billions tell me why. For the first time in history tell me why that would be. Can't see it happening that way. I don't like people thinking I am that stupid. Don't think that was the point Dan. My point was that we've heard stories about other rv's int he past and how the news wasw the opposite till the day it happened. And misinformation designed to sit up the post to that people didn't get a grasp on what was happening. Dan: - I just clicked off to call the guy that has been trying to reach me. One of the reasons I wanted him on here was cause of his understanding or the Kuwait rv. I am very pro of this dinar rv. Tony: This call is already longer than we though. 13303 - someone says it expired last year in 2010. Originally it did yes. There was an extension put in until the 15th or 17th this year. Read it carefully 0 it was giving us every right that an iraqi citizen has including owning dinar. Remember it was on the terrorist list., It just came off the list in December for us. In Canada in January. That is why that was put there. Prior to that we could not own the dinar. What happens when it expires? I don't really know. We got ours during that time. Maybe after that we can't get more? Maybe them plan was that there would be no need for it once it is a tradeable currency like every other one. If it wasn't going to be done by then - they don't usually wait till the last second.... We have 9 days to know and see how far out it is going to go. We'll know come the 17th. Chat saying only having to do with the dinar when under the UN. Not now. Saying 13303 was in place so that we could invest in the country. Now that no longer listed as a terrorist currency why a need to extend it? If out in place while sanctions in place and no longer listed why a need for that? Tony: Can you go to the bank and turn it in? Are some banks still saying they can't take it cause not on their list? It would be on every bank's list of the y could. Wendy - It is not a true currency value for the country. My point is that if order was put in place while under the terrorist list and under sanctions that have been lifted - why do we need the order? Tony- That is what I was saying. If it rv';s now it is tradeable. Wendy - I am saying it is not tradeable. cause it doesn't reflect the true gdp of Iraq. Rate was mandated by imf. Thought main reason we couldn't purchase it was cause it was listed as a terrorist currency. If not listed that way anymore why do we have to hvae that order? Would you agree that if we don't see an rv before that expires is that really a big deal? Even though not tradeable... we can own it but can't cash in cause it has no value. Dan: That ? you just asked is easy to answer. If they don't extend the order then it doesn't mean anything. They aren't going to do everything they did, loss of life. all the $ for the investment etc... to have it over. That makes no sense. If it doesn't get extended it doesn't matter. If it does get extended then it does matter. Tony: If it gets extended for a year or 6 months then we will know. It will be after the date they extend it. Dan: The time line doesn't mean anything could be an rv the day after. Can;t go on much longer. The U S is in worse financial shape than Rome when it fell. Have done so much worldwide for other countries they are supported. Not going anywhere. This was meant to be one of the fixes. That fix isn't going away. Anying better to put money back in? Wendy: Don't want people to freak out about the expiration date whatever it is... if it comes and goes and we don't see an extension don't want people to freak out. I believe in this 1000%. Don't believe this is about iraq. Think they are being made the scapegoat by the powers that be. If we knew everything we'd know the exact date. The unknowns are the hold up every week when ti was supposed to happen. The PTB did something and has nothing to do with Iraq. Tony: Don't have to worry about it. Don't think they would tell us it was no good, after we went to Iraq we didn't trade with them cause we didn't agree with the rate. When this rv takes place will be different. Other countries did yes - we did not. Not as big a deal as others are making it. We are protected. ButchB - another? here - Can every country in the world trade the iqd at this time? If not then 13303 does have something to do with it. Tony - This was set up by the UN and the US - to have other countries buy it through dealers in the US. Governments would anywhere. That 1303 meant they could do that as citizens. Got a brand new contact whose brother is in Iraq who will go down to the square everyday to see what is going on. Dan - just so you know we have 4 -5 people like that. Asked Tony to 3-way in Okie... Okie is here Live and in person! Okie - I am going to correct Tony - I am not 77 - yes Tony 69. Feel older than sand and rocks anyhow don't make me any more. Are you guys getting an implication of Wednesday that I am hearing? I have not elaborated and I kind of retired from the scene today. Heard that won't be much intel other than it has rv'd or will be. All these contributing little tidbits don't mean a hill of beans. These people that want every little tidbit let them go tot he library. I got up this morning and thought today would be a good day for me to start a new life. I am very satisfied that this is the week. Tony; Me too. Wendy - We have thousands of people listening to this call right now. We greatly appreciate all that you have done and endured and your intelligence and all you have done for us. Okie - I've gone around the globe and met a lot of people in iraq, kuwait and that has been the primary source of my intel. Thank you I appreciate it so much. Tony - That should make a lot you people happy Okie - at least you know Okie isn't as old as Methusala as Tony said., going to get even with Tony and kidnap his dog or something. Okie - I have really enjoyed the time I have listened to PTR - Tony and I have formed a bond of being very close friends. I have always been kind of on Tony's side. Know I shouldn't pick and choose but Tony and I are good friends. Wendy - Come join us in SF. Oki -According to scheduling I would really enjoy that. Thank you for having me and thank you Tony. Tony - Got to go. It was great. Tomorrow am the radio show - different format. |
Monday, May 9, 2011
THE BEST WAY TO MANUFACTURE AN ARMY OF 'USEFUL FOOLS'
Found on an Skype Dinar Room
There is so much information on this following site, that I'm just posting Link. Scroll through it and read what catches your eyes. So much is going to be exposed to shock the masses. Way more so than the faked "Death" of the Wax museum type photo of Osama.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/936-disclosurebinladen
David Wilcock report
Excerpt from the end:
THE BEST WAY TO MANUFACTURE AN ARMY OF 'USEFUL FOOLS'
It takes a lot to get someone to offer their own life and risk the most hideous, prolonged torture.
What better incentive can you offer than to keep the ultimate "rock star" of terrorism alive? The Greatest Devil the West Has Ever Known -- a Freedom Fighter now there to be their friend, teacher and father figure?
This makes perfect sense from the negative elite's perspective. They love to be behind the scenes, treating people as completely expendable, pitiful and worthless -- and enjoying the sarcastic pleasure of tricking them on the most profound levels possible.
By keeping Bin Laden alive, they could create an army of Useful Fools. All these people are actually doing the dirtiest of dirty jobs for the very group they hate the most -- and they are totally clueless!
Every time they blow themselves up, they generate even more money for their hidden masters -- by keeping oil prices high.
It's sick. It's sarcastic. And it's exactly how the negative elite love to work. They love to have things going on that are so odious, so treasonous, so revolting that no one will believe it even after they find it -- because it's just too repulsive.
The real question we all need to ask ourselves, in my opinion, is why we are being confronted with these thoughtforms -- over and over again? What in us is causing this 'mirror' to appear out there in the world?
SHOCKED THE INSIDER WORLD
I do believe Bin Laden's apparent assassination has shocked the insider world, based on what I've heard and how it resonates with my own internal BS-meter.
These insiders do not like Obama. Not one bit. There is no point in arguing with them, and I don't. Their opinions are too entrenched. I just listen to what they have to say and make up my own mind about what I choose to believe.
The insiders did not want to give Obama anything whatsoever that would inspire the public to like him. Not a single shred of good news -- and certainly nothing like this. They work overtime to keep the hate as high and as violent as posisble.
I've been hearing all kinds of stories about how they wanted him to get thrown out over the birth certificate issue, or assassinated, or have an untimely 'accident,' et cetera. They've even worked an Obama assassination into The Event, as the next article will reveal.
ARE YOU DOING YOUR JOB?
The whole game is for you to hate the president.
If you do hate the president, you're exactly where they want you to be.
All your energy is directed on one target, one focal-point, who can easily be killed, sidelined or voted out of office.
More importantly, you hate. You engage in it. You live in it. You feel it. You obsess on it.
Hate is your life, your passion and your focus. It's your campaign -- and you need everyone to agree with you because you are so outraged.
Guess what? You are right where they want you to be. You are a perfect product of your conditioning. You are doing your job as a foot-soldier for the elite.
They do things to make you mad... so that you will be mad. That's the whole point.
You are actively maintaining the very state of consciousness that ensures we will need further death and destruction offered to us before we will awaken to loving-kindness -- as a planet.
THE REAL ISSUE IS HOW YOU THINK AND FEEL
The real issue is not politics. It's not who is in office. It's how each of us choose to think and feel about ourselves, and how we in turn treat others.
Disclosure is ultimately about discovering that we are at a very early stage of human evolution -- and are being inspired to push to the next level.
If you want to evolve to a higher spiritual level, you have only two options:
1. You can shoot for 95-percent service to self. This is impossible to achieve without raping, torturing and killing people on a mass level. If you don't have the stomach for that, you are wasting your time by doing anything negative.
2. You can shoot for 51-percent-or-more of service to others -- which involves being compassionate, friendly and supportive.
This is actually far more difficult than the negative path, in many ways -- because it necessitates that your own Ego -- the identity you have enjoyed your entire life -- will be humiliated, crucified and completely destroyed... to pave the way for a greater manifestation of who you really are.
Those are your choices. It's all spelled out in the Law of One series. If you choose the negative path, you're going to have to balance it out in later lifetimes and go positive anyway -- so you save yourself a lot more time by doing it now.
51 percent is the minimum you need to graduate -- but obviously the farther you go, the closer you are to re-aligning with your true essence.
IT IS POSSIBLE
It is possible to become a true pillar of strength and a beacon of light for others. It is possible to make contact with your Higher Self, discover your greatest Purpose and embody that creativity and inspiration in everything you think, see and do.
To liberate yourself from fear is to embrace truth. To embrace love. To embrace Identity -- in the greatest sense.
So I leave you with these questions:
Who are you?
Do you have enough courage -- enough trust -- enough faith -- to become who you really are -- by maintaining a positive, loving, supportive attitude towards yourself and others?
Are you aware that your ego -- your personality self -- is being utterly crucified? Is it clear to you, yet, that your ego cannot possibly survive this ordeal?
Do you understand what may be in store for you if you stop fighting the inevitable -- and allow that shell you built around your heart to break open?
Can you see love where others only see hate? Are you a beacon of hope for others -- who are not yet capable of understanding that they are being crucified, or that anything positive could ever come from all of this?
Are you creating your own Ascension, right now, by the state of consciousness you choose to maintain in your life?
Think about it -- and we'll talk soon.
There is so much information on this following site, that I'm just posting Link. Scroll through it and read what catches your eyes. So much is going to be exposed to shock the masses. Way more so than the faked "Death" of the Wax museum type photo of Osama.
http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/davids-blog/936-disclosurebinladen
David Wilcock report
Excerpt from the end:
THE BEST WAY TO MANUFACTURE AN ARMY OF 'USEFUL FOOLS'
It takes a lot to get someone to offer their own life and risk the most hideous, prolonged torture.
What better incentive can you offer than to keep the ultimate "rock star" of terrorism alive? The Greatest Devil the West Has Ever Known -- a Freedom Fighter now there to be their friend, teacher and father figure?
This makes perfect sense from the negative elite's perspective. They love to be behind the scenes, treating people as completely expendable, pitiful and worthless -- and enjoying the sarcastic pleasure of tricking them on the most profound levels possible.
By keeping Bin Laden alive, they could create an army of Useful Fools. All these people are actually doing the dirtiest of dirty jobs for the very group they hate the most -- and they are totally clueless!
Every time they blow themselves up, they generate even more money for their hidden masters -- by keeping oil prices high.
It's sick. It's sarcastic. And it's exactly how the negative elite love to work. They love to have things going on that are so odious, so treasonous, so revolting that no one will believe it even after they find it -- because it's just too repulsive.
The real question we all need to ask ourselves, in my opinion, is why we are being confronted with these thoughtforms -- over and over again? What in us is causing this 'mirror' to appear out there in the world?
SHOCKED THE INSIDER WORLD
I do believe Bin Laden's apparent assassination has shocked the insider world, based on what I've heard and how it resonates with my own internal BS-meter.
These insiders do not like Obama. Not one bit. There is no point in arguing with them, and I don't. Their opinions are too entrenched. I just listen to what they have to say and make up my own mind about what I choose to believe.
The insiders did not want to give Obama anything whatsoever that would inspire the public to like him. Not a single shred of good news -- and certainly nothing like this. They work overtime to keep the hate as high and as violent as posisble.
I've been hearing all kinds of stories about how they wanted him to get thrown out over the birth certificate issue, or assassinated, or have an untimely 'accident,' et cetera. They've even worked an Obama assassination into The Event, as the next article will reveal.
ARE YOU DOING YOUR JOB?
The whole game is for you to hate the president.
If you do hate the president, you're exactly where they want you to be.
All your energy is directed on one target, one focal-point, who can easily be killed, sidelined or voted out of office.
More importantly, you hate. You engage in it. You live in it. You feel it. You obsess on it.
Hate is your life, your passion and your focus. It's your campaign -- and you need everyone to agree with you because you are so outraged.
Guess what? You are right where they want you to be. You are a perfect product of your conditioning. You are doing your job as a foot-soldier for the elite.
They do things to make you mad... so that you will be mad. That's the whole point.
You are actively maintaining the very state of consciousness that ensures we will need further death and destruction offered to us before we will awaken to loving-kindness -- as a planet.
THE REAL ISSUE IS HOW YOU THINK AND FEEL
The real issue is not politics. It's not who is in office. It's how each of us choose to think and feel about ourselves, and how we in turn treat others.
Disclosure is ultimately about discovering that we are at a very early stage of human evolution -- and are being inspired to push to the next level.
If you want to evolve to a higher spiritual level, you have only two options:
1. You can shoot for 95-percent service to self. This is impossible to achieve without raping, torturing and killing people on a mass level. If you don't have the stomach for that, you are wasting your time by doing anything negative.
2. You can shoot for 51-percent-or-more of service to others -- which involves being compassionate, friendly and supportive.
This is actually far more difficult than the negative path, in many ways -- because it necessitates that your own Ego -- the identity you have enjoyed your entire life -- will be humiliated, crucified and completely destroyed... to pave the way for a greater manifestation of who you really are.
Those are your choices. It's all spelled out in the Law of One series. If you choose the negative path, you're going to have to balance it out in later lifetimes and go positive anyway -- so you save yourself a lot more time by doing it now.
51 percent is the minimum you need to graduate -- but obviously the farther you go, the closer you are to re-aligning with your true essence.
IT IS POSSIBLE
It is possible to become a true pillar of strength and a beacon of light for others. It is possible to make contact with your Higher Self, discover your greatest Purpose and embody that creativity and inspiration in everything you think, see and do.
To liberate yourself from fear is to embrace truth. To embrace love. To embrace Identity -- in the greatest sense.
So I leave you with these questions:
Who are you?
Do you have enough courage -- enough trust -- enough faith -- to become who you really are -- by maintaining a positive, loving, supportive attitude towards yourself and others?
Are you aware that your ego -- your personality self -- is being utterly crucified? Is it clear to you, yet, that your ego cannot possibly survive this ordeal?
Do you understand what may be in store for you if you stop fighting the inevitable -- and allow that shell you built around your heart to break open?
Can you see love where others only see hate? Are you a beacon of hope for others -- who are not yet capable of understanding that they are being crucified, or that anything positive could ever come from all of this?
Are you creating your own Ascension, right now, by the state of consciousness you choose to maintain in your life?
Think about it -- and we'll talk soon.
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