The conspiracy theories begin: What was the mystery blotch that appears on Mars rover photo - but disappears two hours later?

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PUBLISHED: 23:59 EST, 8 August 2012 | UPDATED: 09:33 EST, 9 August 2012

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Conspiracy theorists have worked themselves up into a lather over a mysterious blotch visible in the first black and white photographs taken from NASA's new Curiosity rover as it landed on Mars.

The faint but distinctive dot which can be seen on the horizon of the Red Planet was taken by a device on the $2.5 billion robot called its Hazcam and relayed by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter back to Earth.

However, two hours later when the satellite made another pass over Curiosity, the rover sent another batch of images that revealed that the blotch had eerily disappeared.

One of the first images taken by NASA's Curiosity rover: Visible in the centre of the picture on the horizon is an unexplained shape

The Internet was instantly awash with theories as to why the two photographs would be different, especially as the rover, which is the largest spacecraft ever sent to another planet, landed on its own with no direct control from NASA mission control.

Furthermore, the rover was acting autonomously, meaning that scientists did not command the robot to photograph the exact views containing the blotch.

 

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The most prominent reason discussed online for the mysterious blot is that Curiosity managed to photograph over the course of 200 milliseconds the crash-landing of the spacecraft that carried the rover to the Martian surface.

However, one engineer working on the project told the LA Times that 'would be an insane coincidence' and that the shape on the horizon was most likely dirt on the lens.

About two hours after landing on Mars and beaming back its first image, NASA's Curiosity rover transmitted a higher-resolution image of its new Martian home without the mysterious shape on the horizon

Regardless, scientists have acknowledged the fact that the blotch is there 'And then it's not' said Sarah Milkovich of the Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge to the LA Times.

Yesterday morning, JPL engineers surveyed the debris from Curiosity's landing in a photograph entitled the 'crime scene' photograph.

To the southwest of the rover was the parachute that had slowed the rover's descent and to the southeast was the heat shield that Curiosity jettisoned before it began its controlled jet propelled descent.

To the northwest was the craft that had aided that landing known as the 'sky crane' which lowered Curiosity to the ground from 66-feet above the Martian surface, before shooting away to crash land.

The satellite photograph showed tht the 'Sky crane' craft had landed 2,000-feet away from the rover in the direction the camera would have been pointing when it crashed.

This graphic shows the locations of the cameras on NASAs Curiosity rover. NASAs Mars rover Curiosity, loaded with the most-sophisticated instruments ever used to explore another world, touched down on the Red Planet early Monday morning

Dusty: A view through a Hazard-Avoidance camera on NASA's Curiosity rover before and after the clear dust cover was removed. Both images were taken by a camera at the front of the rover.

This evidence has led NASA scientists to consider the original unlikely theory.

'I don't think that you can rule it out,' said Curiosity mission manager Michael Watkins.

'It bears looking into.'

This new unknown image on Mars bears similarities to the infamous 'face' that was taken by Viking 1 on July 25, 1976, that had the appearance of a humanoid face.

Sparking conspiracy theorists into believing that the face was the work of an extraterrestrial intelligence, the image was later debunked by the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and Mars Global Surveyor as simply an example of pareidolia.

While scientists and amateur theorists get in on the shape's guessing game, other photographs beamed back by the rover - 352 miles through space - have sparked further curious review by scientists who say they hit far closer to home.

The famous 'face' on Mars which conspiracy theorists claimed was evidence for extraterrestrial life on the Red Planet

However more advanced imaging from orbiting satellites revealed that the face was in fact just a large rock formation on the planet's surface

'The first impression that you get is how Earth-like this seems looking at that landscape,' said chief scientist John Grotzinger of the California Institute of Technology.

Poking its head out for the first time since settling in Gale Crater on Wednesday, the car-sized rover peered around and returned a black-and-white self-portrait as well as panorama that reveals a hazy, mountainous horizon - strikingly similar to California’s Mojave Desert.

'We're looking at a place that feels really comfortable'

- Chief scientist John Grotzinger of the California Institute of Technology

'It kind of makes you feel at home,' he said. 'We're looking at a place that feels really comfortable.'

Grotzinger said he was struck by the Martian landscape, which appeared diverse. There seemed to be harder material underneath the gravelly surface, he said.

The rover has provided the best view so far of its destination since touching down on Sunday night after nailing an intricate landing onto the surface of the Red Planet. 

In the latest photos, Curiosity looked out toward the northern horizon. Nearby were scour marks in the surface blasted by thrusters, which kicked up a swirl of dust.

There were concerns that Curiosity got dusty, but scientists said that was not the case.

Earth-like landscape: This image released by NASA and taken by cameras aboard the Curiosity rover shows the Martian horizon scientists say resembles the Mojave Desert

Comparing: The Mojave Desert stretches throughout southeastern and central California as well as southern Nevada, southwestern Utah and northwestern Arizona, in the United States

'We do see a thin coating of dust, but nothing too bad,' said Justin Maki, imaging scientist at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which manages the $2.5 billion mission.

Scientists were giddy about the scour marks because they exposed bedrock below - information that should help them better understand the landing site.

Since landing, Curiosity has zipped home a stream of low-resolution pictures taken by tiny cameras under the chassis and a camera at the end of its robotic arm, which remained stowed. It also sent back a low-quality video showing the last 2 1/2 minutes of its descent.

The rover also successfully raised its mast packed with high-resolution and navigation cameras.

With the mast up, it can begin its photographic days in force, including taking a 360-degree colour view of its surroundings as early as Thursday.

Then for the next year years it will poke through rocks and soil in search of the chemical ingredients of life.

This NASA image shows a portion of the first 360-degree panoramic view from NASA's Curiosity rover, taken with the Navigation cameras

This NASA image shows a Picasso-like self portrait of NASA's Curiosity rover taken by its Navigation cameras, located on the now-upright mast

Nasa has also revealed amazing new images from the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera aboard NASA's Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which  captured the Curiosity rover and the components that helped it survive its seven-minute ordeal from space to its present location in Mars' Gale Crater.

'This latest image is another demonstration of the invaluable assistance the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter team, and its sister team with the Mars Odyssey orbiter, have provided the Curiosity rover during our early days on the Red Planet,' said Mike Watkins, mission manager for the Mars Science Laboratory mission at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena.

'The image not only satisfies our curiosity, it can provide important information on how these vital components performed during entry, descent and landing, and exactly locate the rover's touchdown site within Gale Crater.'

To the right, approximately 4,900 feet (1,500 meters) away, lies the heat shield, which protected the rover from 3,800-degree-Fahrenheit (about 2,100 degrees Celsius) temperatures encountered during its fiery descent.

On the lower left, about 2,020 feet (615 meters) away, are the parachute and back shell.

Mapped landing: This amazing image from the HiRise camera shows the Curiosity lander on Mars along with the components of its landing system

The parachute and back shell of NASA's Curiosity rover strewn across the surface of Mars.

The parachute has a constructed diameter of 71 feet (almost 21.5 meters) and an inflated diameter of 51 feet (nearly 16 meters).

The back shell remains connected to the chute via 80 suspension lines that are 165 feet (50 meters) long.

To the upper-left, approximately 2,100 feet (650 meters) away from the rover, is a discoloration of the Mars surface consistent with what would have resulted when the rocket-powered Sky Crane impacted the surface.

'This is the first of what I imagine will be many portraits HiRISE will be taking of Curiosity on the surface of Mars," said Sarah Milkovich, HiRISE investigation scientist at JPL.

'The image was taken Monday at about 10:30 p.m. Pacific when MRO was at an altitude of about 186 miles (300 kilometers), and we are getting resolution on the surface down to 1.3 feet (39 centimeters) per pixel.'

From above: Curiosity is seen photographed here by the Mars Descent Imager instrument or MARDI, showing the 15-foot (4.5-meter) diameter heat shield when it was about 50 feet (16 meters) from the spacecraft

It is the most expensive and ambitious mission yet to Mars.

Its ultimate destination is a mountain towering from the centre of the crater floor.

Preliminary estimates indicate Curiosity landed four miles away from the base of Mount Sharp, thought to contain intriguing signs of past water - a starting point to learning whether microbial life could exist.

Before the one-ton, nuclear-powered Curiosity can start roving, it has to undergo several weeks of tedious but essential health checks.

Since it was too heavy to land using traditional air bags, it used a heat shield, parachute, rockets and cables. An orbiting spacecraft spotted the discarded spacecraft hardware, including the ballast weights that were shed soon after entry into the atmosphere.

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Women at the Olympic Games: are appearences deceiving?

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Women at the Olympic Games: are appearences deceiving?

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Date: Thursday, 9-Aug-2012 08:36:02

After 82 seconds Wojdan Shaherkani had lost the battle. Her brother Hassan put his arm around her shoulder, and led her past a hundred reporters. The shouting, shoving, for the judo fighter from Saudi Arabia, the microphones stretched into the pale face. Shaherkani, 16 years old, whispered something about honor, pride, confidence. She looked away, shy, timid wanted it simple. Wojdan Shaherkani is the first Saudi Arabian woman who participated in an Olympic competition. She is the woman who has been missing, you might say. A historical latecomer. For the first time, all 204 nations are represented at the games with women. In Atlanta in 1996 had 26 teams were still all-male. In London, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Brunei and closed the gap by 4800 around 10,500 athletes are female. Wojdan Shaherkani have brought shame on Saudi Arabia, conservative Muslims complain on the internet, shame on the Arab world. Nawal El Moutawakel, the Moroccan Vice President of the International Olympic Committee, IOC, speaks of a peaceful revolution. But what is the reality? Obesity and diabetes On a gray London morning David Mepham is sitting in his glass box office and explains why even historical moments are sometimes deceptive. "The struggle of Shaherkani was a modest step", says UK director at Human Rights Watch. "We must draw attention to the everyday lives of Saudi women. They have almost no rights and are treated as second class citizens. "In Saudi Arabia, girls and women of the sport is not permitted, not in schools, clubs, gyms. Many suffer from obesity, physical inactivity, diabetes. If they work, travel, want to go to the doctor, they must present the permission of a male relative. On Wednesday, the runner Sarah Attar, the second Saudi Olympian, resigned in the run over 800 meters from the competition. Attar, 19 years old, grew up in California, she is fluent in English. It can be of her photos where she wears a headscarf. But the Olympic Committee of Saudi Arabia called for by his two female athletes, in London, "to behave appropriately Islam": concealed body and head, accompanied by a male overseer. During the opening ceremony were Shaherkani Attar and one in the back row of their teams into the stadium, behind the men. The two women had not qualified for the Games, the IOC gave them special permission - and celebrates itself as a human rights covenant. David Mepham just want to move it. It is true that Jacques Rogge, the president of the IOC, have used for the women. More important, however, the pressure of human rights organizations on the Saudi regime was. "The IOC has power," says Mephan. "It must use that power well after the Olympics when all the journalists are back home." He wants to prevent that disappear behind the wonderful story of two athletes to the real problems. The fact that the debate about extravagant headgear in judo is no room for other issues, education, care or sexuality of women: "Girls in Saudi Arabia have no opportunity to discover their talents." In the ranking of press freedom, Reporters Without Borders publishes annually, Saudi Arabia is of 179 countries evaluated in 158th place The Saudi women are a little out of their Olympic athletes who continue to live abroad. You are more likely to get the outrage of conservative forces to hear that might potentiate by government censorship. Ali Seraj Shaherkani, father of the Saudi Judo fighter, now has his home, the Home Office asked for help, he hired a lawyer and would like to punish the abuse of his daughter legally. Whether he will reply? An elite circle The Olympic idea is to peacemaking and conflict resolution, but in ancient times it was forbidden to women to visit sports sites. Even Pierre de Coubertin, founder of the modern games, saw no place for women. The Greek STAMATA Revithi 1896 still took part in the marathon at the premiere, but in 1984 the track was for women officially Olympics. "The IOC was an elite circle of industrialists and aristocrats," says the historian Jutta Braun from the center of Berlin German sports history. "They thought that physical activity could distort the girl's face and would degrade the ability to give birth." Long had the women in the Olympics behind walls or bushes move to avoid being seen by men. The newspapers reported that Miss efficient, they named their first names, because they believed otherwise embarrass their husbands. "The Nazi regime was seen as important sport," says Jutta Braun, "for the strengthening of the female body in motherhood." After the war, opened more sports for women, but soccer was forbidden for them until 1970. Women had to work hard for every Olympic sport in London, they closed the final gap, they are now also approved for boxing. At the Winter Games in Sochi in two years, they must first jump off the hill. Proud of the United States and Canada have indicated to have been nominated for this summer, more women than men. The British also published many articles on their athletes, 262 are in the process, which corresponds to a share of 48 percent. "Olympics for the girls," headlines the Observer. "As the British team falls in love with his feminine side." There is a forecast that British women have won more medals than men for the first time. Tim Woodhouse is often asked by journalists to participate in these bills, but he is then the question of what is to be permanently. Woodhouse works for the Women's Sport and Fitness Foundation, the WSFF, his office is located at the Victoria House on Bloomsbury Square to send, where to use a number of initiatives for grassroots sport. "Two weeks Olympia can no equality between women and men bring in the sport," says Woodhouse. "But they give us a boost and can make the distance between the sexes are smaller." Woodhouse can recite all British winners of medals, but he also has statistics at hand, which is lost in patriotic gold cry: According to the World Health Organization in 2011, twelve percent of British girls in the age of fourteen were regularly active, were with the boys twice as many . Above all Muslim girls are underrepresented. Twelve percent of British women do three times per week sports, for men it is twenty percent. Sponsors of the funds for the Sport 0.5 percent to flow to women. Half of the girls surveyed had at the Olympics, having no sporting role models. Maybe they would now opt for the cyclist Elizabeth Armitstead, who won the first medal for the host and spoke of a satisfaction, "after all the sexism." Armitstead received many interview requests, in detail, it has not expressed. Tim Woodhouse is not surprised that he knows the pressures of the business: "We find it hard to motivate girls to amateur sport. We need coaches and referees - and sponsors, "The London Organising Committee has always attached high priority to balance in its structures.. Whether this signal will arrive at the base? Tim Woodhouse will now take advantage of the public to make known to his foundation. "Many people see for the first time that even women run fast and jump high." Maybe one or the other school director for the Olympic crowds interested in a girls' sport-AG, at a basketball camp weekend, a mother- daughter-race. Perhaps Britain will also be annoyed by all the directors of the continuous sound of "Higher, Faster, More". More millionaires than women Tim Woodhouse is no walk in the close quarters of an hour Berry Street to Fawcett Society, the maybe the most influential women rights organization in England. The company takes its name from Millicent Garrett Fawcett, who had used the early twentieth century for suffrage, education and political participation of women. The staff of Fawcett would be unable to give the Olympics, they have seen too many media cycles, which stood in the way of objective debate. Olympia, they seem to feel rather than a hindrance. The activist Preethi Sundaram agrees to speak at least on the political discrimination: "The British government sit more millionaires than women in parliament and only every fifth member is female." This proportion Westminster is ranked 56th globally In the British economy were only thirteen percent of board members are women, the Fawcett Society calls for balanced conditions in 2020: "Everywhere where important decisions are made for the population, we have a shortage of women. This is unhealthy for a democracy that has an impact on the diversity of a society. " With the exception of the Social Democratic Labour Party had no political movement developed a real strategy for increasing women, says Sundaram. Are debates like these are available in half of Europe, including Germany. And now for just a couple of medals in the rings of this climate change thing? Preethi Sundaram incredulous smiles, looks at the clock and says gently, she had no time. It is almost impossible to find an Olympic athlete who wants to go public with the sporting machismo into judgment, too great is the fear of the loss of sponsors. According to Star magazine is to create only two women among the one hundred highest paid athletes in the world. A study by the Sports University in Cologne, according to the percentage of women sports reporters is five to 15 percent. "As a woman you can in this male-emphasized marketing world can score high if they take your skin to the market," says Imke Duplitzer, one of the most successful fencers of Germany and a participant in London. "Services are nice, but not so critical." In beach volleyball officials have decided that players have to wear a bikini pants, seven inches wide, alternatively, a mini skirt or pants, even at the Olympics can click them on the Internet dozens of photo galleries. Prior to the World Cup last year, the women on the German glossy posters to see, especially the attractive reserve player Fatmire Bajramaj, adorned with the slogan "20ELEVEN at its best." The accurate, but rather inconspicuous captain Birgit Prinz was in advertising barely watch. Researchers at the Sports University in Cologne certify Sexualisierungsdruck a marketing and media. Since 1995, Germany pulled in more than fifty athletes for Playboy. Male Performance Standard In sports, the male determines the performance standard that women are more facade than in politics and business. The International Olympic Committee wants to make the audience anyway, that softens the Olympics gender boundaries. The images of the Saudi judoka Wojdan Shaherkani will see probably in the year to each review, as a historical legacy of the Games. Not shown are the then Iranian footballers. They could not qualify for the Olympics last year, as the world governing body Fifa, the kicking was not allowed to wear headscarves. Jacques Rogge, the chief guardian of the Olympic Games is not tired of talking about the Olympic feminine. Recently, the IOC has added two more female members. 22 women now sit on the committee - and almost five times as many men. From german with automated translaters

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NASA says: Cold Fusion, the holy grail of energy production is a reality NOW

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NASA says: Cold Fusion, the holy grail of energy production is a reality NOW

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The Italian physicist Andrea Rossi presented last year, a device called E-Cat to the public, which with the help of cold fusion generates steam and electricity. The environmentally friendly method is based on the conversion of hydrogen to nickel and copper. The resulting heat is used to evaporate water and to drive a turbine which then generates electricity. The media had ridiculed the physicist still recently , when he presented his invention. Now, NASA has made ​​its views public, and confirmed that the procedure invented/reproduced by Rossi works. Since its publication last year, its efficiency could be further optimized. In the meanwhile Rossi also found an anonymous buyer. Rossi currently has patent protection in Italy, but still no international patent. Such an innovation could solve our energy problems in the long term but also be a thorn in the eye for the energy and oil companies. from german with automated translaters

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High Ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Member Makes Explosive Allegation: ‘Fast and Furious’ Is Not What You Think It Is

High Ranking Mexican Drug Cartel Member Makes Explosive Allegation: ‘Fast and Furious’ Is Not What You Think It Is

• Posted on August 9, 2012 at 8:00am by Jason Howerton»

A high-ranking Mexican drug cartel operative currently in U.S. custody is making startling allegations that the failed federal gun-walking operation known as “Fast and Furious” isn’t what you think it is.
It wasn’t about tracking guns, it was about supplying them — all part of an elaborate agreement between the U.S. government and Mexico’s powerful Sinaloa Cartel to take down rival cartels.
The explosive allegations are being made by Jesus Vicente Zambada-Niebla, known as the Sinaloa Cartel’s “logistics coordinator.” He was extradited to the Chicago last year to face federal drug charges.

Jesus Vincente Zambada-Niebla (Source: MSNBC)

Zambada-Niebla claims that under a “divide and conquer” strategy, the U.S. helped finance and arm the Sinaloa Cartel through Operation Fast and Furious in exchange for information that allowed the DEA, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and other federal agencies to take down rival drug cartels. The Sinaloa Cartel was allegedly permitted to traffic massive amounts of drugs across the U.S. border from 2004 to 2009 as long as the intel kept coming.
This pending court case against Zambada-Niebla is being closely monitored by some members of Congress, who expect potential legal ramifications if any of his claims are substantiated. The trial was delayed but is now scheduled to begin on Oct. 9.
Zambada-Niebla is reportedly a close associate of Sinaloa Cartel kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman and the son of Ismael “Mayo” Zambada-Garcia, both of which remain fugitives, likely because of the deal made with the DEA, federal court documents allege.

Based on the alleged agreement ”the Sinaloa Cartel under the leadership of defendant’s father, Ismael Zambada-Niebla and ‘Chapo’ Guzman, were given carte blanche to continue to smuggle tons of illicit drugs into Chicago and the rest of the United States and were also protected by the United States government from arrest and prosecution in return for providing information against rival cartels which helped Mexican and United States authorities capture or kill thousands of rival cartel members,” states a motion for discovery filed in U.S. District Court by Zambada-Niebla’s attorney in July 2011.

A source in Congress, who spoke to TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity, said that some top congressional investigators have been keeping “one eye on the case.” Another two members of Congress, both lead Fast and Furious Congressional investigators, told TheBlaze they had never even heard of the case.
One of the Congressmen, who also spoke to TheBlaze on the condition of anonymity because criminal proceedings are still ongoing, called the allegations “disturbing.” He said Congress will likely get involved once Zambada-Niebla’s trial has concluded if any compelling information surfaces.
“Congress won’t get involved in really any criminal case until the trial is over and the smoke has cleared,” he added. “If the allegations prove to hold any truth, there will be some serious legal ramifications.”
Earlier this month, two men in Texas were sentenced to 70 and 80 months in prison after pleading guilty to attempting to export 147 assault rifles and thousands of rounds of ammunition to Mexico’s Los Zetas cartel. Compare that to the roughly 2,000 firearms reportedly “walked” in Fast and Furious, which were used in the murders of hundreds of Mexican citizens and U.S. Border Agent Brian Terry, and some U.S. officials could potentially face jail time if they knowingly armed the Sinaloa Cartel and allowed guns to cross into Mexico.
If proven in court, such an agreement between U.S. law enforcement agencies and a Mexican cartel could potentially mar both the Bush and Obama administrations. The federal government is denying all of Zambada-Niebla’s allegations and contend that no official immunity deal was agreed upon.
To be sure, Zambada-Niebla is a member of one of the most ruthless drug gangs in all of Mexico, so there is a chance that he is saying whatever it takes to reduce his sentence, which will likely be hefty. However, Congress and the media have a duty to prove without a reasonable doubt that there is no truth in his allegations. So far, that has not been achieved.
Zambada-Niebla was reportedly responsible for coordinating all of the Sinaloa Cartel’s multi-ton drug shipments from Central and South American countries, through Mexico, and into the United States. To accomplish this, he used every tool at his disposal: Boeing 747 cargo planes, narco-submarines, container ships, speed boats, fishing vessels, buses, rail cars, tractor trailers and automobiles. But Guzman and Zambada-Niebla’s overwhelming success within the Sinaloa Cartel was largely due to the arrests and dismantling of many of their competitors and their booming businesses in the U.S. from 2004 to 2009 — around the same time ATF’s gun-walking operations were in full swing. Fast and Furious reportedly began in 2009 and continued into early 2011.
According Zambada-Niebla, that was a product of the collusion between the U.S. government and the Sinaloa Cartel.

Soldiers and police officers guard packages of seized marijuana during a presentation for the media in Tijuana, Mexico. (AP Photo/Guillermo Arias)

The claims seem to fall in line with statements made last month by Guillermo Terrazas Villanueva, a spokesman for the Chihuahua state government in northern Mexico who said U.S. agencies ”don’t fight drug traffickers,“ instead ”they try to manage the drug trade.”
Also, U.S. officials have previously acknowledged working with the Sinaloa Cartel through another informant, Humberto Loya-Castro. He is also allegedly a high-ranking member of the Sinaloa Cartel as well as a close confidant and lawyer of “El Chapo” Guzman.

Joaquin Guzman Loera, aka "El Chapo" (STR/AFP/Getty Images)

Loya-Castro was indicted along with Chapo and Mayo in 1995 in the Southern District of California in a massive narcotics trafficking conspiracy (Case no. 95CR0973). The case was dismissed in 2008 at the request of prosecutors after Loya became an informant for the United States government and subsequently provided information for years.
In 2005, “the CS (informant Loya-Castro) signed a cooperation agreement with the United States Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of California,” states an affidavit filed in the Zambada-Niebla case by Loya-Castro’s handler, DEA agent Manuel Castanon.
“Thereafter, I began to work with the CS. Over the years, the CS’ cooperation resulted in the seizure of several significant loads of narcotics and precursor chemicals. The CS’ cooperation also resulted in other real-time intelligence that was very useful to the United States government.”
Under the alleged agreement with U.S. agencies, “the Sinaloa Cartel, through Loya-Castro, was to provide information accumulated by Mayo, Chapo, and others, against rival Mexican Drug Trafficking Organizations to the United States government,” a motion for discovery states.
In return, the United States government allegedly agreed to dismiss the charges in the pending case against Loya-Castro (which they did), not to interfere with his drug trafficking activities and those of the Sinaloa Cartel and not actively prosecute him or the Sinaloa Cartel leadership.
Taken directly from the motion filed in federal court:

“This strategy, which he calls ‘Divide & Conquer,’ using one drug organization to help against others, is exactly what the Justice Department and its various agencies have implemented in Mexico. In this case, they entered into an agreement with the leadership of the Sinaloa Cartel through, among others, Humberto Loya-Castro, to receive their help in the United States government’s efforts to destroy other cartels.”
“Indeed, United States government agents aided the leaders of the Sinaloa Cartel.”

The government has denied this and says the deal did not go past Loya-Castro.
Zambada-Niebla was arrested by Mexican soldiers in late March of 2009 after he met with DEA agents at a Mexico City hotel in a meeting arranged by Loya-Castro, though the U.S. government was not involved in his arrest. He was extradited to Chicago to face federal drug charges on Feb. 18, 2010. He is now being held in a Michigan prison after requesting to be moved from Chicago.
“Classified Materials”
During his initial court proceedings, Zambada-Niebla continually stated that he was granted full immunity by the DEA in exchange for his cooperation. The agency, however, argues that an “official” immunity deal was never established though they admit he may have acted as an informant.
Zambada-Niebla and his legal council also requested records about Operation Fast and Furious, which permitted weapons purchased in the United States to be illegally smuggled into Mexico, sometimes by paid U.S. informants and cartel leaders. Their request was denied. From the defense motion:

“It is estimated that approximately 3,000 people were killed in Mexico as a result of ‘Operation Fast and Furious,’ including law enforcement officers in the state of Sinaloa, Mexico, the headquarters of the Sinaloa cartel. The Department of Justice’s leadership apparently saw this as an ingenious way of combating drug cartel activities.”
“It has recently been disclosed that in addition to the above-referenced problems with ‘Operation Fast & Furious,’ the DOJ, DEA, and the FBI knew that some of the people who were receiving the weapons that were being allowed to be transported to Mexico, were in fact informants working for those organizations and included some of the leaders of the cartels.”

Zambada’s attorney has filed several motions for discovery to that effect in Illinois Federal District Court, which were summarily denied by the presiding judge who claimed the defendant failed to make the case that he was actually a DEA informant.
In April, 2012, a federal judge refused to dismiss charges against him.
From a Chicago Sun Times report: “According to the government, [Zambada-Niebla] conveyed his interest and willingness to cooperate with the U.S. government, but the DEA agents told him they ‘were not authorized to meet with him, much less have substantive discussions with him,’” the judge wrote.

In this courtroom artist's drawing Jesus Vincente Zambada-Niebla appears before U.S. District Judge Ruben Castillo Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2010, in Chicago. (AP Photo/Verna Sadock)

In their official response to Zambada-Niebla’s motion for discovery, the federal government confirmed the existence of “classified materials” regarding the case but argued they “do not support the defendant’s claim that he was promised immunity or public authority for his actions.”
Experts have expressed doubts that Zambada-Niebla had an official agreement with the U.S. government, however, agree Loya Castro probably did. Either way, the defense still wants to obtain DEA reports that detail the agency’s relationship with the Sinaloa Cartel and put the agents on the stand, under oath to testify.
The documents that detail the relationship between the federal government and the Sinaloa Cartel have still not been released or subjected to review — citing matters of national security.
(Editor’s note: The impetus for this article came from author Reed A. Williams, whose upcoming book “The Weed That Just Won’t Die” delves deeply into the Zambada-Niebla court case. Get more details on the book here.)
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A QE3 in progress - Let's ICE IT !

There is a QE3 in progress using MBS purchases by the FED to bail out the banks that have them.

  'O' said he was going into the mortgage business, owning the mortgaged properties here in the U.S. 

   However - BE THAT AS IT MAY- This fraud is systemic to the Cartel's system, being pinioned to odious monetary generation ( all fraudulent-derivative debt),and then compounded by LIBOR fraudulent trading on top of that,then add " DRUG MONEY LAUNDERING"  and a totally fraudulent FED ( at 35:1) fraudulent FED- IT'S ALL  "ODIUS DEBT" folks . 

 You can't see the Forest for the sake of the trees- and- it's all black. Iceland- you are a nation that evaluated this Banker's Fiasco properly and took the right course of action. 

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DNA Upgrade through the Merging of Galaxies

08 August 2012

A thorough explanation of how DNA and human consciousness are completely interconnected, along with how this is related to the merging of the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy and the Milky Way Galaxy.

                                                    WE ARE NOT FROM HERE

The above picture shows the Milky Way Galaxy as seen from earth on a clear night. Since our earliest education, we have always been taught that the earth, our sun and solar system belonged to the Milky Way Galaxy. New scientific evidence clearly shows that not to be the case.

One of the greatest astronomical mysteries is why the Milky Way is at an angle when seen from earth. If our solar system emerged OUT from the Milky Way, we would be in line with the whirlpool disk but as it is, we reside at an angle to it. That long time mystery has now been solved.

A new infra red digital survey of the entire sky was made in 2003. Teams from the universities of Virginia and Massachusetts used a supercomputer to sort through half a billion stars to create a -- NEW STAR MAP showing our Solar System to be at the exact nexus crossroads where two galaxies are actually joining.

We are now joining the Milky Way Galactic community ... with all the implications thereof.

 sense of shock came as scientists announced that the Sun, the Moon, our planet and its siblings, were not born into the familiar band of stars known as the Milky Way galaxy, but we actually belong to a strange formation with the unfamiliar name of the Sagittarius Dwarf galaxy!

How can this be?

Using volumes of data from the Two-Micron All Sky Survey (2MASS), a major project to survey the sky in infrared light led by the University of Massachusetts, the astronomers are answering questions that have baffled scientists for decades and proving that our own Milky Way is consuming one of its neighbors in a dramatic display of ongoing galactic cannibalism. The study published in the Astrophysical Journal, is the first to map the full extent of the Sagittarius galaxy and show in visually vivid detail how its debris wraps around and passes through our Milky Way. Sagittarius is 10,000 times smaller in mass than the Milky Way, so it is getting stretched out, torn apart and gobbled up by the bigger Milky Way.

We are at an angle to the arms of the Milky Way Whirlpool Disk because we did NOT come out of the Milky Way but the Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy which is now colliding with and being "eaten" by the huge Milky Way.

It has always been known that the Milky Way collects material from other galaxies and overwhelms the small ones. The Sagittarius Dwarf Galaxy from which our solar system came is very very small and being energetically consumed. We are about to join the Milky Way at the energetic level of the Whirlpool Disk.

The rings around the Milky Way Galaxy here are the remnants of other, smaller galaxies. You can see where our Sun is located and that it has been moving in an entirely different direction than thought. Trace the ring in which our solar system resides and you can see its path. Now it becomes obvious why the Milky Way is viewed at an angle from earth. And the coming convergence also becomes obvious as our solar system, from the diminishing Sagitarrius Dwarf Galaxy now joins with the Milky Way.

This is the energetic crossing that the Mayans were referring to with regard to December 2012 and the scientist have now confirmed that indeed that date is entirely accurate.

The Overall Biggest contributing Cause to Global Climate Changes, and the melting of the polar icecaps of -- both -- Earth and Mars (and Pluto) is caused by our arrival into the brighter, more energetic equator region of the Milky Way galactic disc ( where all the action is ) as we cross cut in from the clearly less energetic darker deep space.

With a little contemplation, it should become clear to anyone what is happening.

Actual Infrared Photo of Milky Way from Earth: nearly centered side view amidst glowing plasma region of whirlpool disc (fullest nearing 2012) [Image Credits NASA]

It becomes clear that approaching full alignment of 2012, Earth and her system will reach the critical climax and point of the full receiving of the maximum plasma energies as we are even now centering into the brightest, most energetic zone -- the beautiful glowing arms of the Milky Way disc.

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Crossroads of Convergence

The many scientists studying these phenomena are telling us that this has vast implications for all DNA on planet Earth and her entire web of life. Big and sudden evolutionary changes are already beginning to occur.

These sudden and rapid changes have been called by evolutionary biologists a punctuated equilibrium.
 

Punctuated Equilibrium: The evolutionary process involving long periods without change (stasis) punctuated by short periods of rapid speciation.

At this moment we are beginning to undergo such a punctuated equilibrium.

The nature of our species, homo sapiens is now undergoing a huge shift. Some call it a transformational evolution, others call it the end of our old world and the beginning of a new one happening simultaneously.

Some can only perceive the negative side of it and are reacting with extreme fear over the loss of the familiar. They predict doomsday but, although many things in our old world are perishing rapidly, there demise will only herald a new age. A new age so different from the past dysfunction of thousands of years as to be almost incomprehensible from our present perspectives. The metaphor of a "golden age of peace' has been used many times and in many cultures to describe the aftertime.

Our physical DNA affects our personal human conscious awareness. DNA and human consciousness are completely interconnected, intertwined, commingled. What affects one affects the other. DNA is the material/physical aspect of human consciousness. Those who are becoming aware of the spiritual aspects, due to activating their energenic heart, are able to see the metaphysical implications as well.

This bombardment by the rapidly increasing energies now coming in from the Milky Way Whirl Pool Disk means rapid changes for human consciousness and it means genetic changes for all life on earth, as every quanta of matter and energy in our entire solar system is transformed while colliding with the many energetic frequencies, ions, radiations and cosmic dust pouring out from the Milky Way equator and rapidly engulfing our entire solar system, including The Sun and planet earth.

It was the work of Russian scientists that made us alert to the physical aspects of this convergence.

There is an institute in Russia which focuses on studying our Sun's Heliosphere. The Heliosphere is the huge magnetic field of our Sun which surrounds the entire solar system like an envelope. We are continually moving through space in a certain direction. As I understand it, when you draw this on a two dimensional graph, we are rapidly charging downward from Northeast to Southwest right into the Milky Way equator at an angle. We will cross it and come out underneath the Milky Way as we enter its lower western quadrant.

Left: Convergence of galaxies from an Earth perspective of the Milky Way Galaxy

The scientists themselves, both those in Russia and two independent astronomical studies recently carried out by two U.S. Universities, have calculated that the peak of the alignment is December 2012. This date has empirically confirmed the accuracy of the Mayan Calender which expires on our Gregorian date of December 21st, 2012. 11:11 AM GMT to be precise.

The meaning of this has long been contemplated. However, the Mayans themselves clearly explained it, as those who focus on the study of the ancient Mayan culture have told us.

    

Basically, the Mayans said that it is NOT the end of the world but our world's recycling and transformation into an entirely new world where peace will reign. It is the golden age long prophesied by many, many cultures on earth, although described in various cultures with different metaphores.

So, how do these Russians who study the Sun's Heliosphere know about this coming convergence?

Our Sun and solar system speeds through space surround by our electro-magnetic envelope called the Heliosphere. It is shaped somewhat like a tear drop with a blunt leading edge and a thinner tail. As the blunt leading edge encounters the energies, radiations and cosmic particles of space, it effervesces or glows due to the energetic plasmas produced along the leading edge.

Scientists have long known this and have measured the length of this plasma effervescence in astronomical units. One astronomical unit (au) is the distance between the Earth and the Sun. It has remained fairly constant up until now. 

The length of this effervescence along the Heliosphere's leading edge is now 1000% greater than what had always been considered normal. And, it is increasing rapidly the closer we get to the extreme energy of the Milky Way ecliptic as we plunge down into it and come out on the other side like a bunch of kids getting off the world's most exciting roller coaster ride with trembling knees, seeing the world according to their inmost heart's desire. Only in this case, some of the kids decided to go off on a different roller coaster ride to an environment they were more familiar with.

And, although no human being can do anything to stop it from happening, nor should we, those who are aware of it will definitely have a heads up as these tumultuous Earth changes increasingly build up until they can hold no more energy and all the quantum particles in our solar system suddenly and instantly shoot apart from each other and remain stable at that increased distance.

This is a dimensional shift. It is a sudden density shift of all matter in our world from what is called third to fourth density.

Considering all the new insights concerning the nature of matter and time, I now increasingly understand this probability.

What then? What's the next step in evolution?

If one contemplates this, the answer is found in thousands of years of prophecy in all cultures from the beginning of humankind's awareness. These prophesies center on the emergence of a new era of peace while, at the same time, the old worn out and dying age completely recycles.

In a good sense, the dross is vaporized.

This has been foreseen in the prophecies of EVERY culture on earth, using different mythologies and metaphors of description, for thousands of years.

The cataclysms which are now increasing all over our planet will not come on all at once, but gradually and with increasing intensity while building up to that peak in 2012.

The earth changes have already begun, as many people now fully realize and other people are starting to realize.

Most folks are highly perplexed by it. Perhaps what I am writing here will bring some comfort as well as practical help.

Some of you reading this right now are aware of this through your inner intuitions. Like myself, your intuitions have sensed this change coming on for a long, long time.. many since birth. It is that inner gut feeling of expectation. An anticipation which includes both angst for physical survival, as the outer energetic intensity increases and, at the same time, the inner expectation for an entirely new paradigm to emerge upon our planet and its confused people who are so caught up in war, criminality, religious and ideological fanaticism, violence and control, all for various selfish interests.

We intuitively feel the pressure building and inwardly know that eventually something will give.

Those intuitive feelings about this coming change are accurate, although our interpretations of them vary. But, you are not alone.

We can call this emerging new state of our existence fourth density. When the term density is used instead of dimension it is referring to differing states of the quantum particles between one world dimension and another. It refers to the cohesion and oscillation rate of each quanta which is an expression of material density.

In this vast Universe, time and space are completely comingled and consist of many different ratios. All quanta vibrate (or spin) at different frequencies and the quantum particles exist in linear time at varying distances from one another.

In our present third density world, the quantum particles of matter have a certain known distance between them. Most folks do not have any conception of how incredibly small these basic quanta are and even less idea of how much empty space exists between each one.

What is the empty space between?

It is the field of infinite energy and intelligence. It is the time domain.

Presently, in third density, this distance between the quanta which make up everything, including light (photons), is analogous to the distance between a golf ball at one end of a football field and a second golf ball clear down at the other end.

In between the two golf balls (quanta) is lots of space indeed.

But, it is not "empty" space, but a seething energetic flux of both entropy and organization.

In the coming, and much finer, fourth density, these quanta are further apart. It should be understood that the quantum level is much, much smaller and finer than the gross atomic level where these various quanta congregate. All is energy. Matter is energy spinning in various configurations.

Albert Einstein stated: "Concerning matter, we have been all wrong. What we have called matter is energy, whose vibration has been so lowered as to be perceptible to the senses. There is no matter."

http://soundofheart.org/galacticfreepress/content/dna-upgrade-through-merging-galaxies

Obama - It is a miracle!

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Dinar Rumors Update - jonnywg

08/08/2012

Hello all,

Just dropped in to advise all that i am still ok................................ and expecting things to happen shortly……………… it has been a few days and I am now back in CANADA. I am here to be a part of my son’s wedding…………………………………. I hear so many rumors about myself, it is hard to respond to…………….. I am not under house arrest ………… I have not cashed in ……………………………….  I have no restrictions other than a NDA/NCA ……….. however nothing new is happening ………………… all appears to be done but it is not final for unknown reasons ……………………………………………it is quiet but strangely quiet.

[xyz] .jonnywg shortly as in hours? before 8/9/12?

[.jonnywg] xyz shortly as in who really knows.

[justaguy] .jonnywg Welcome, we used to have an intel guy by that name. j/k lol

[.jonnywg] justaguy there is no intel to give ............... all has been completed for 2 months or more and it is greed and interference that is the delay.

[.jonnywg] I can say that we are ....... and have been in a favorable position for a long time. as said, I am in CANADA AND will be here for a while.

[blessedandhighlyfavored] .jonnywg What is your opinion on Fox Business News talking about an article today that was published in Feb 2012 about the Iraqi Dinar being a scam and/or fraud and advise people not to invest? Do you feel this is smoke like the Kuwaiti Dinar revaluation in 1991?

[.jonnywg] blessedandhighlyfavored fox and all the other news are looking for provocative news.

[.jonnywg] Wells Fargo to this day will not deal with the dinar.

[blessedandhighlyfavored] .jonnywg Is that smoke about WF? Isn't WF suppose to be the bank to release the codes to us?

[.jonnywg] blessedandhighlyfavored do not know what it is but in the last 2 months i have been in houston, TAMPA, MILWAKI, DENVER, PHEONIX AND BUFFALO................................... EVERY WELLS FARGO I WENT IN WOULD NOT OPEN A BANK ACCOUT IF I MENTIONED IT WAS FOR DINAR CURRENCY DEPOSITS................................................................ this is their policy until the official rv.

The bank screens are being played with and currently show values at the back currency screens or $4.15 for the IQD.

 [booyah] .jonnywg hi is it really you!!

[.jonnywg] booyah yes and I still own the domains for intel4u.com and 3sintel with SWEETQUEEN AS MY PARTNER.

[highlander65] .jonnywg how much longer can they play with numbers on the backscreens and what is the purpose of doing that ?

[.jonnywg] highlander65 DO NOT KNOW THE PURPOSE BUT 9 MONTHS AGO ALL WAS REAL ........NOW IT IS MISINFO 50% OF THE TIME.

[ram1] .jonnywg Is that $4.15 showing in the US or Canada?

[.jonnywg] ram1 USA, DOLLARS.

[sandytob] .jonnywg it appears that no one really knows why this has not happened yet. Is that true from your viewpoint, or is it just abut information that we are not privy to?

[.jonnywg] sandytob I AGREE.

[CrGsLdy] .jonnywg Are countries really trading the IQD as we have heard?

[.jonnywg] CrGsLdy NO LEGAL CURRENCY TRADES YET BUT............ THERE ARE TRADES ON THE BARTER SYSTEM.

[nathansmom] .jonnywg so it is safe to say this is just about control from the PTB-- and we have NO real idea WHEN this will happen?? We could be looking at months longer?

[.jonnywg] nathansmom THE RV IS A SMALL DROP IN THE BUCKET AS TO THE TOTAL DOLLARS INVOLVED BUT YES IT COULD TAKE TIME OR IT COULD BE TOMORROW.

[dguru] .jonnywg john do yu really think madam wu has anything to do with this?

[.jonnywg] dguru MADAM WU IS THE PERSON IN CHARGE AND IS A CHAMPION OF HUMANITARIAN RIGHTS AND THE REBUILDING OF USA.

[sandytob] .jonnywg since Madame Wu is supposed to be so powerful, and is in charge, why can't she move this along?

[.jonnywg] sandytob MADAM WU HAS TO SATISFY MANY COUNTRIES AND MANY EGOS.

[oucrazy] .jonnywg.. . Does Madam Wu have e desire to push this through as quickly as possible?

[.jonnywg] oucrazy YES.

[carolinah2o~~] .jonnywg Are the packs bring processed and we are just waiting our turn?

[.jonnywg] carolinah2o~~ YES.

[misskitty05] .jonnywg Is there any truth to the rumor that China has given an ultimatum to get this done?

[.jonnywg] misskitty05 WHO KNOWS?  BUT WE HAVE HEARD THIS MANY TIMES.

[booyah] .jonnywg .jonnywg where is bella? is she ok?

[.jonnywg] booyah BELLA HAS HAD SOME MEDICAL ISSUES AND IS DOING PRETTY GOOD...................... JUST NEEDED SOME TIME OFF.

[booyah] .jonnywg tell her we miss her!!

[.jonnywg] booyah I CERTAINLY WILL ..................... HOPE TO TALK TO HER LATER TODAY

[.jonnywg] I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THERE IS A GOOD CHANCE THIS EVENT WILL TAKE PLACE SOONER THAN LATER.............................................. BUT ALL IS READY TO PROCCEED

[alohadinar] .jonnywg Aloha and it is great to see you back and in better health. Do feel all of the delays have had any effect on the rate, and does prior to the end of August look good?

[.jonnywg] alohadinar RATE CAN BE ANYTHING BUT IN MY OPINION THE PUBLIC RATE WILL BE $4-7 ................ AND A GROUP RATE WILL BE A BIT HIGHER.

[keiji] .jonnywg are the banks still on high alert for this? TY

[.jonnywg] keiji THE BANKS ARE FRUSTRATED BEYOND BELIEF AND ARE OVER PREPARED.

[pebbles1] any word on the VND?

[.jonnywg] pebbles1 WILL RV WITH THE IQD.

[Hebrews11:1] Jonnywg hi Are our bank packages a currency sale to a third or a currency exchange based on the revaluation of the dinar?

[Hebrews11:1] Jonnywg Correction- currency sale to third party.

[.jonnywg] Hebrews11:1 THERE ARE CASHIN PACKAGES AND DEPOSIT PACKAGES .............. YOU WILL HAVE TO REVIEW BOTH.

[trooperb] jonnywg.. I have yet to have someone explain on how chat sites like this can effect this thing to pop.. Thank you in advance..

[.jonnywg] trooperb THE CHAT SITES CAN STOP THE RV BY DIVULGING CONFIDENTIAL INFO.

[.jonnywg] THE CHAT SITE SHOULD BE THERE TO DISCUSS WHAT TO DO,,,,,,,,,,, IDEAS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, PROJECTS............................ NOT RATE AND DATE

[dguru] .jonnywg who really knows the confidential info?

[.jonnywg] dguru A FEW.

[M64] .jonnywg good evening, just got into chat, sorry if this was asked but did Wells Fargo release a policy statement in regards to the IQD as you mentioned a few weeks ago? Thanks.

[.jonnywg] M64 A GOOD QUESTION............................ WELLS FARGO HAS SET UP INDEPENDENT WIRE STATIONS IN EACH CURRENCY BRANCHES TO HANDLE THE VOLUME AFTER THE RV.

[da58] .jonnywg could we experience a global currency exchange - without an iraqi rv - or that being at a later date?? (sorry, if this is repeated, lost connection..)

[.jonnywg] da58 NO, ALL AT ONCE.

[pmw1973] blessedandhighlyfavored i have a person at my job that was a solider i asked if she had iqd she said no and hated people like me :)

[.jonnywg] pmw1973 PRAY FOR HER.

[pmw1973] she meant she new she was gettin the shaft I guess.

 [dealdoctor] .jonnywg please elaborate do you meen Wells Fargo has set up independent wire stations in each currency branch to handle the volume BUT there was nothing specific in that new policy reference IQD or VND just currency in general.

[.jonnywg] dealdoctor CANNOT ELBORATE ................ BUT IT IS TO HANDLE VOLUME.

[crossways] .jonnywg Do you have an idea as to how long we will have to exchange at our bank package rate? 7-10

[crossways] days? or more?

[.jonnywg] crossways WELL I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WILL NOT WAIT....................... AND WILL CASHIN AS SOON AS I CAN.

 [meggie55] .jonnywg Are any of your contacts really in a position to really know whats going on IYHO?

[.jonnywg] meggie55 YES BUT DETAILS CANNOT BE REVEALED.............. I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE INFO IN GENERALITIES.....................

[dwg14] .jonnywg i just want to say thanks for aall you do and bring in.... i've been in this 5,5yrs and will be here till . its over (RV) :)

[.jonnywg] dwg14 THE LAST 2 YEARS I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED MORE THAN FULL TIME .................... I NOW WILL HAVE TO DEVOTE SOME TIME AS TO PROVIDING FOOD AND ACCOMMODATION........ LOL

[keiji] .jonnywg are the intel guys being so silent mean they truly think this is upon us?

[.jonnywg] keiji THERE IS NO INTEL LEFT..................... THUS NOTHING TO SAY....................... THE ONLY NEW DEVELOPMENTS ARE MOVEMENTS IN THE PROSPERITY PACKAGES......... AND WGS.................................. THIS EVOLVEMENT IS THE REAL DEAL AND........................ IT IS NEAR COMPLETION.

[childofgod] No matter how broke we all are, we are still here and we are educating ourselves and becoming stronger. We have some serious work to do going forward post RV!

[.jonnywg] childofgod I AGREE.

[diverdown] .jonnywg Do the people holding this up even consider the people suffering in Iraq?

[.jonnywg] diverdown NO.

[greek1212] .jonnywg How come we dont hear anything about the tarriff anymore, that was supposed to be a huge factor for the last 2 months and not a word in Aug???

[.jonnywg] greek1212 NO INFO RELEASED.

[imperium] .jonnywg Please share what you can about the WGS.

[imperium] .., by "near completeion" you mean days?

[.jonnywg] imperium SORRY JUST GENERALITIES...................... THERE HAS BEEN MOVEMENT PROVEN.

[sandytob] .jonnywg I thought the RV had to happen before the PP and WGS could be released? Or do I have that backwards?

[.jonnywg] sandytob COULD BE EITHER WAY .....WHO KNOWS?

[noway37] if its really all done.. wasnt we told once its done ya can turn back.. so why not open up and start talkin and tellin us all.. and quit hiding behind the silence and all?

[.jonnywg] noway37 I ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH DEATH THREATS.

[.jonnywg] THE MODS HERE ARE EDUCATED AND ARE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS............... SWEET QUEEN DESERVES THE CREDIT.

[bebba] .jonnywg why are you getting death threats? ... sorry... that stunned me.

[.jonnywg] bebba IT HAS INTENSIFIED OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS........... I HAVE HAD TO TAKE PRECAUTIONS AS MY IP WILL SHOW DIFFERENT EVERY DAY SO AS TO HIDE MY LOCATION ...........................A LOT OF PEOPLE BLAME BELLA AND MYSELF FOR THE DELAY............... BELLA HAS HAD TO MOVE LOCATIONS BECAUSE OF IT.

 [#2sister] .jonnywg will the PP and WGS benefit us small guys that are nobodies or just the whobodies?

[.jonnywg] #2sister THEY WILL CHANGE AMERICA.

[#2sister] .jonnywg for the better or for the worst?

[.jonnywg] #2sister BETTER.

[youneverknow] jonny good to see you, missed your post, it is very nice to know you and Bella are okay, I hope this to be over soon for your sakes as well as ours.

[.jonnywg] youneverknow THANKS.

[.jonnywg] I WILL BE BACK................. I HOPE TO HAVE SOME GOOD NEWS BY FRIDAY AND I WILL POST IT HERE

[dinardr] JONNY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN ..

[#2sister] .jonnywg thank you so very much for your time! Stay safe...We need you and love you guys!!!

[.jonnywg] #2sister WE WILL BE FORCED TO GO AWAY FOR A WHILE ........................ DEPENDS ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES ................... BUT THE THREATS ARE REAL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LOST A LOT OF MONEY ON RESERVES BLAME US................ WE WILL BE VERY QUIET FOR A WHILE.

THANKS ALL

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