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Tuesday, February 26, 2013
An Oath Keepers Nation-Wide Call To Action
Mary Rodwell - the New Human
Uploaded on Feb 27, 2011
Are you an alien abductee? Or are you a lifelong contactee and friend of the star people? Mary Rodwell, an Australian counselor who works with contactees and abductees talks about the interesting people she's met and worked with. Many of the new children being born now have a keen awareness of who they are and they talk openly about their experiences with the star people. Some even speak the same language that they picked up on spaceships.
2013 International conference invitation
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These 11 States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
These 11
States now have More People on Welfare than they do Employed!
The
problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money. Margaret
Thatcher
Last month, the Senate Budget Committee reports that in fiscal
year 2011, between food stamps, housing support, child care, Medicaid and other
benefits, the average U.S. Household below the poverty line received $168.00 a
day in government support.
What’s the problem with that much support?
Well, the median household income in America is just over $50,000,
which averages out to $137.13 a day.
To put it another way, being on welfare now pays the equivalent of
$30.00 an hour for a 40-hour week, while the average job pays $25.00 an hour.
Obama’s Expanding Kill List - your day will come
CGI's oldBuck: Obama’s Expanding Kill List - your day will
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Obama’s Expanding Kill List Paul Craig Roberts Prosecutors always expand laws far beyond their intent. Attorneys in civil cases do the same. For example, the 1970 Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act was passed in order to make it easier for the government to convict members of the Mafia. However, the law, despite its intent, was quickly expanded by prosecutors and attorneys and used in cases against pro-life activists, Catholic bishops, corporations accused of hiring illegal immigrants, and in divorce cases. “Junk bond king” Michael Milken, a person with no ties to organized crime, was threatened with indictment under the RICO Act. Prosecutors have found that the asset freeze provision in the Act is a convenient way to prevent a defendant from being able to pay attorneys and, therefore, makes it easier for prosecutors to coerce innocent defendants into a guilty plea. We are now witnessing the expansion of Obama’s Kill List. The list began under the Bush regime as a rationale for murdering suspect citizens of countries with which the US was not at war. The Obama regime expanded the scope of the list to include the execution, without due process of law, of US citizens accused, without evidence presented in court, of association with terrorism. The list quickly expanded to include the American teen-age son of a cleric accused of preaching jihad against the West. The son’s “association” with terrorism apparently was his blood relationship to his father. As Glenn Greenwald recently wrote, the power of government to imprison and to murder its citizens without due process of law is the certain mark of dictatorship. Dictatorship is government unconstrained by law. On February 10 the Wall Street Journal revealed that the Obama dictatorship now intends to expand the Kill List to include those accused of acting against foreign governments. Mokhtar Belmokhtar, an “Algerian militant” accused of planning the January attack on an Algerian natural gas facility, has been chosen as the threat that is being used to expand Obama’s Kill List to include participants in the internal disputes and civil wars of every country. If the Obama regime is on the side of the government, as in Algeria, it will kill the rebels opposing the government. If the Obama regime is on the side of the rebels, as in Libya, it will kill the government’s leaders. Whether Washington sends a drone to murder Putin and the president of China remains to be seen. But don’t be surprised if Washington has targeted the president of Iran. The elasticity of the Kill List and its easy expansion makes it certain that Washington will be involved in extra-judicial executions of those “associated with terrorism” over much of the world. Americans themselves should be alarmed, because the term “association with terrorism” is very elastic. Federal prosecutors have interpreted the term to include charitable contributions to Palestinians. The next time former US Representative Cynthia McKinney gets on an aid ship to Palestine, will Washington give the green light to Israel to kill her as a terrorist agent for her association with aid to Gaza, ruled by the “terrorist organization,” Hamas? Already a year or two ago, the director of Homeland Security said that the federal police agency’s focus had shifted from terrorists to “domestic extremists,” another elastic and undefined term. A domestic extremist will be all who disagree with Washington. They also are headed for the Kill List. Where is the government going with this? The most likely outcome is that everyone disliked or distrusted by those who have the power to add to the Kill List will find themselves on the list. The government can expand the Kill List beyond the original intent as easily as the RICO Act was expanded beyond its original intent. As the Founding Fathers knew and the American people have forgot, no one is safe in a dictatorship. Clearly, the American public lacks sufficient comprehension to remain a free people. All indications are that the large majority of Americans fear alleged terrorists in distant lands more than they fear their government’s acquisition of dictatorial powers over them–powers that allow government to place itself above the law and to be unaccountable to law. This is despite the fact that 99.999% of all Americans will never, ever, experience any terrorism except that of their own government. According to a recent poll of registered American voters, 75% approve of Washington’s assassination of foreign citizens abroad based on suspicion that they might be terrorists, despite the fact that the vast majority of the Gitmo detainees, declared by the US government to be the most dangerous men on earth, turned out to be totally innocent. Only 13% of registered voters disapprove of the extra-judicial murders carried out by Washington against foreign citizens, whether based on wrong intelligence, hearsay, or actual deeds. http://www.ahherald.com/newsbrief-mainmenu-2/monmouth-county-news/14849-public-says-its-illegal-to-target-americans-abroad-as-some-question-cia-drone-attacks Registered voters have a different view of the extra-judicial murder of US citizens. In what the rest of the world will see as further evidence of American double-standards, 48% believe it is illegal for Washington to murder US citizens without due process of law. However, 24% agree with the Obama regime that it is permissible for the government to murder its own citizens on accusation alone without trial and conviction of a capital crime. As The Onion put it, “24% of citizens were unequivocally in favor of being obliterated at any point, for any reason, in a massive airstrike.”http://www.theonion.com/articles/american-citizens-split-on-doj-memo-authorizing-go,31207/ Are we to be reassured or alarmed that 24% of registered voters believe that the terrorist threat is so great that suspicion alone without evidence, trial, and conviction is sufficient for Washington to terminate US citizens? Should not we be disturbed that a quarter of registered voters, despite overwhelming evidence that Washington’s wars are based on conscious lies–”weapons of mass destruction,” “Al-Qaeda connections”–are still prepared to believe the government’s claim that the person it just murdered was a terrorist? Why are so many Americans willing to believe a proven liar? If we add up all the costs of the “war on terror,” it is obvious that the costs are many magnitudes greater than the terror threat that the war is alleged to contain. If terrorists were really a threat to Americans, shopping centers and electric substations would be blowing up constantly. Airport security would be a sham, because terrorists would set off the bombs in the crowded lines waiting to clear security. Traffic would be continually tied up from roofing nails dispensed on all main roads in cities across the country for each rush hour. Water supplies would be poisoned. Police stations would be bombed and police officers routinely terminated on the streets. Instead, nothing has happened despite Washington’s killing and displacement of huge numbers of Muslims in seven or eight countries over the past 11 years. The cost of the “war on terror” is not merely the multi-trillion dollar financial bill documented by Joseph Stiglitz and Linda Bilmes. The cost of Washington’s wars is the main reason for the large national debt, the threat of which politicians are using to destroy the social safety net. This is a huge cost for a pointless war that pleases Israel and enriches the armament companies but does nothing for Americans. The financial cost is huge, but how important is this cost compared to another cost–the domestic police state supported by a significant percentage of the population and a majority in Congress and the media? Is the war on terror worth the evisceration of the US Constitution? A war that costs us the Constitution means our total defeat. The cost in human life has been enormous. Millions of Muslims have been killed, wounded, orphaned, and displaced, and entire countries have been destroyed as socio-political entities. Washington locked Iraq in sectarian murder. Libya has no government, just warring factions, and now Syria is in the process of being disintegrated. The prospects for people’s lives in these countries have been ruined for years to come. The cost in American lives has also been high. More than 400,000 American lives have been adversely affected by 11 years of pointless war. The deaths of 6,656 US troops, the 50,000 wounded, the 1,700 life-changing limb amputations, and the suicides http://www.globalresearch.ca/record-numbers-of-us-military-and-veteran-suicides/5322544 are just the tip of the iceberg. Since the Bush-Obama wars began, 129,731 US troops have been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. And now we learn from a new Congressional Research Service report that more than a quarter million of US troops have experienced Traumatic Brain Injury. Based on current diagnostic capability, three-fourths of the cases are classified as mild. http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/02/cost-of-war/ These lost, ruined and impaired lives affect also the lives of many others–spouses, children, parents, siblings, and those disheartened by their government’s pointless wars who have to care for the damaged. There are many Americans who have been collaterally damaged by Washington’s pointless wars. Will Americans wake up in time? I wish I could answer, “yes,” but I regret that Americans are an insouciant people. They are unaware. Americans are more concerned with sports events, sales, and which celebrities are sleeping together than they are with their liberty. Washington can create a police state, because there are insufficient citizens with the intelligence, education, and awareness to stop Washington. Congress has accepted the police state and has given up too much of its power to the executive branch and is too beholden to the special interests that benefit from the police state to do anything about it. Congress is even content for the CIA or the Pentagon, perhaps both, to murder by robot innocent people on the Benthamite presumption that at some future time they might commit a terrorist act. Some US Senators want a cloak of legality for the murders and suggest a secret court to rubber-stamp Obama’s Kill List. CIA nominee director John Brennan reportedly objected to a secret court on the grounds that not all drone murders are retaliation; some victims are murdered for what some executive branch official thinks they might do at some future time, and without evidence the court would have nothing objective to go by. http://news.antiwar.com/2013/02/10/lawmakers-push-plans-to-advance-drone-strikes/ The federal judiciary has proven to be almost as impotent. Federal judges did not ask federal prosecutors why, in violation of the whistleblower protection laws, they were prosecuting National Security Agency senior executive Thomas Drake for blowing the whistle on the NSA’s illegal spying on US citizens instead of the officials who broke the law and committed felonies. Judges did not ask why CIA agent John Kiriakou was prosecuted for blowing the whistle on the torture program instead of those who committed crimes by authorizing and committing torture.http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article33894.htm The innocent and the truth-tellers were prosecuted. The criminals and the liars were not. The federal judges went along with the Justice (sic) Department’s prosecutions of those who obeyed the law and did their duty and non-prosecution of criminals who clearly without any doubt violated the law, trampled upon the US Constitution, and committed felonies. In a police state it is always the innocent who are the most heavily punished. In his history, The Gulag Archipelago, Alexander Solzhenitsyn explains that in the prison camps, the Soviet equivalent to Guantanamo and the CIA’s secret torture prisons, common criminals such as murderers, rapists, and robbers had a privileged position compared to the political prisoners who mistakenly thought that the Soviet Constitution meant something. It will be the same in Amerika. The destruction of truth and the law in the US is the legacy of 9/11. Both conservatives and the left-wing have bought into the government’s preposterous story that a few Saudi Arabians, unsupported by any government or intelligence agency, outwitted every institution of the National Security State and inflicted the most humiliating blow against a superpower in human history. They buy into this story despite unequivocal evidence that WTC building 7 came down at free fall speed, an event that can only occur as a result of controlled demolition. But evidence and expert testimony no longer have authority in the US, which now has its own form of Lysenkoism. Lysenko was a quack Soviet scientist, a charlatan who successfully persecuted Soviet geneticists for “setting themselves against Marxism” by not having a Marxist theory of genetics. Soviet geneticists were arrested and executed for being “against the people.” Even the world famous Soviet geneticist, Nikolai Vavilov, was arrested and died in prison. Americans don’t know any more about physics and structural architecture and engineering than the Soviet population and Stalin knew about genetics. Today “Lysenkoism” is used as a metaphor to denote the corruption of science in behalf of a social, political, or ideological purpose. Lysenko used lies to gain power, just as Ponzi scheme operators use lies to gain wealth. Power is an Aphrodisiac, and everyone in Washington wants it. All indications are that they have it. Liberty is disappearing before our eyes. http://antiwar.com/blog/2013/02/11/is-obama-already-holding-us-citizens-in-indefinite-detention/ Expect no help from “progressives,” who believe in Obama more than they believe in liberty.http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/feb/11/progressives-defend-obama-kill-list http://truth11.com/2013/02/20/obamas-expanding-kill-list/ http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=270385 |
Landfillharmonic Orchestra
Here is a brief (3 min.) and impressive story about the
remarkable resourcefulness of people living in poverty!
Subject: Re: FW:
Landfillharmonic Orchestra
Amazing!
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013, Rocklinize wrote:
On Tuesday, February 19, 2013, Rocklinize wrote:
Subject: Fwd: Landfillharmonic
Orchestra
Landfill harmonic orchestra
Please
watch and pass it on. It is an another reminder to appreciate what we
have, and to be endlessly amazed by the resourcefulness of those with so
little.
PressTV: Oscar for Argo..... A crime against humanity, by Kevin Barrett....and more...
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PressTV: Oscar for Argo..... A crime against humanity, by
Kevin Barrett....and more...
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PressTV: Oscar for Argo: A crime against humanity. Posted
on February 25, 2013,by Jean , o 7:22PM GMT . Written By Dr. Kevin Barrett.
The only award the makers of Argo deserve, is a criminal conviction for
crimes against humanity. Instead, Hollywood’s Zionist mafia has handed them
an Oscar for best film of the year. The members of the academy should
themselves be in the docket, facing war crimes charges, right alongside Ben
Affleck.”
* http://presstv.com/detail/2013/02/25/290795/oscar-for-argo-a-crime-against-humanity/ *
Argo is a propaganda film. Like the films of Nazi publicist Leni Riefenstahl, it is well-made. Like those of Riefenstahl, it glorifies a murderous criminal organization. And like those of Riefenstahl, its ultimate purpose is to elicit hatred, and turn its audience into mass murderers.Riefenstahl glorified the Nazi party; Argo glorifies the CIA. Riefenstahl made Nazi war-mongering and Jew-hatred, look beautiful; Argo makes Zionist-incited islamophobia and iranophobia, look natural and inevitable and desirable. Riefenstahl’s films helped open the door to World War II, which killed 70 million people. Argo is designed to open the door to war on Iran and World War III, .....which could kill hundreds of millions or even billions. The only award the makers of Argo deserve is a criminal conviction for crimes against humanity. Instead, Hollywood’s Zionist mafia has handed them an Oscar for best film of the year. The members of the academy should themselves be in the docket, facing war crimes charges, right alongside Ben Affleck. But Affleck and the Hollywood mob aren’t just guilty of war crimes. They are equally guilty of treason against the United States of America. Hollywood, you see, is a virtually 100% Jewish enclave. And with a few noble exceptions, the Jewish billionaires who own and run Hollywood, and determine what kinds of motion pictures dominate the world, are rabid supporters of Israel’s genocide in Occupied Palestine. Their films should be considered “enemy propaganda” – not just by Palestinians and their supporters, but by the American people. Why? Because war on Iran – as Zbigniew Brzezinski and Chuck Hagel and all genuinely American strategists have been screaming from the rooftops – is an Israeli plan, not an American plan. The Israelis want to drag America into wars against their enemies. And Iran is Israel’s public enemy number one. Israel’s real problem with Iran isn’t those nonexistent nukes. (Both the CIA and Mossad have assured us that Iran is not building nuclear weapons.) Israel’s problem is that Iran’s government offers formidable ideological and material support to the Palestinian resistance. Why is that America’s problem? Because America is dominated by a powerful, treasonous Israeli fifth column. As Jewish, pro-Zionist comedian Bill Maher recently admitted, “The Israelis are controlling our government.” Argo is enemy propaganda from Israeli-occupied Hollywood. It is a slick attempt to brainwash Americans into seeing Iranians as enemies. Argo seeks to drag the American consciousness back to 1979, when Iranians overthrew their CIA-installed torturer-in-chief, the Shah, and sought justice for his decades of misrule. It seeks to hide the fact that today, America and Iran should have good relations – and would have good relations, if Israel weren’t running US foreign policy.....(....) But the best thing about Iran is its people. There are no false guides and scammers accosting you, as in some Middle Eastern countries. Iran’s people, regardless of philosophical, political, or religious persuasion, are both dignified and genuinely friendly. They have overcome the colonialist-imposed schizoid complex of servility/resentment. Iranians deal with Westerners, including Americans, naturally and amiably as equals. When will the American government start treating Iran, on a similar basis of natural amiability and equality? The short answer: As soon as Americans take a lead from Bill Maher, and shake off Israel’s domination of their country. When that happens, the makers of Argo, and the other Israeli occupiers of America’s media and entertainment industry, may have to seek refuge in Paraguay.KB/JR /////// Dr. Kevin Barrett, a Ph.D. Arabist-Islamologist, is one of America’s best-known critics of the War on Terror. Dr. Barrett has appeared many times on Fox, CNN, PBS and other broadcast outlets, and has inspired feature stories and op-eds in the New York Times, the Christian Science Monitor, the Chicago Tribune, and other leading publications. Dr. Barrett has taught at colleges and universities in San Francisco, Paris, and Wisconsin, where he ran for Congress in 2008. He is the co-founder of the Muslim-Christian-Jewish Alliance, and author of the books Truth Jihad: My Epic Struggle Against the 9/11 Big Lie (2007) and Questioning the War on Terror: A Primer for Obama Voters (2009). His website is http://www.truthjihad.com. More articles by Dr. Kevin Barrett/link: http://www.presstv.ir/Contributors/247897.html * Related articles : Iran Criticizes ‘Argo’, As CIA Propaganda./ Former Canadian ambassador to Iran Ken Taylor, pleased Ben Affleck, thanked .// ** News: Iran Middle East Britain United States Asia-Pacific Africa Europe Americas. Arts Business Health Sci-Tech Society Sports http://presstv.com/about.html ** Iran news: http://presstv.com/section/3510201.html ** http://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2013/02/25/presstv-oscar-for-argo-a-crime-against-humanity/
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'100% Certain': 9/11 Author Was Killed in Black Ops Hit .
Thursday, 21 Feb 11:50 'After a week-long on-site investigation, former
NationalSecurityAgency officer Wayne Madsen, is “100% certain” that 9/11
investigator and author Philip Marshall and his two children, were killed in
a black ops hit. Madsen’s conclusion is that the cover story – an alleged
murder-suicide – is transparently absurd. Madsen stated his conclusions on
yesterday’s Kevin Barrett show. Among the evidence cited by
Madsen:*Neighbors’ houses are “practically on top of” Marshall’s house, so
dozens of neighbors would have heard any gunshots that weren’t muffled by a
silencer…and Marshall’s “patsy gun”.....
did not have a silencer.'
Read more: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/20/100-certain-911-author-was-killed-in-black-ops-hit/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=100-certain-911-author-was-killed-in-black-ops-hit http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/80153-100-certain-911-author-was-killed-in-black-ops-hit **
The New SAVAK in Pakistan. Who’s really behind the
“sectarian violence” in Pakistan? Hint: Real Muslims don’t blow up mosques.
February 19th.
“American Genocide”: John Hanke revises holocaust
revisionism.
Can you be jailed, for revising holocaust revisionism? February 17th,
I’m not an Israeli journalist. I’m an American
journalist.//On Friday, forty allegedly American Senators blocked Chuck
Hagel, and sent a message: “We are not United States Senators. We are Israeli
Senators.” February 16th.
Was Pope Benedict fired by the Knights of Malta? What’s
the real reason behind the “unprecedented” resignation of a sitting Pope?
February 11th.
Iran Drops Bomb on Hollywood. An Iranian secret weapon – the “truth bomb” – ....has just annihilated Hollywood. February 9th.
USA Has Gone Fascist – I’m Living Proof! Naomi Wolfe says
the witch-hunt that drove me out of the University of Wisconsin, is evidence
that America has gone fascist. Jan 30th.
Las Vegas “Godfather” puts out a hit on Chuck Hagel. Money
laundering…prostitution…and gunning for Chuck Hagel. Las Vegas kingpin
Sheldon Adelson, “the new Meyer Lansky,” has been accused of all this and
more. January 28th.
DHS announces: “Cyber-9/11 coming soon!”. DHS has
announced that a 9/11-scale cyber-attack is “imminent.” How do THEY know?
January 25th.
Who is Allen Ruff, and why does he oppose Chuck Hagel? Why
is self-styled “peacenik” Allen Ruff, working so hard to offer clandestine
support to wars, that have killed millions, and displaced more than ten
million people? January 19th.
9/11 PNAC perps still whining for US to fight Israel’s
wars. The 9/11 perps at PNAC are still up to their old tricks. Don’t these
guys know when it’s way past time to flee to Paraguay? January 17th.
Is Obama killing..... “kill list” critics? Aaron Swartz’s death, raises an obvious question: Can you criticize Obama’s barbarian, unconstitutional “kill list” without ending up on it yourself? January 13th, 2013.
CIA officer John Kiriakou imprisoned to protect 9/11
cover-up.- Former CIA Case Officer John Kiriakou is being railroaded to
protect a National Security Secret: Who really did 9/11 and why. January 6th
Daniel Pipes gets an earful of truth. Witch-hunter Daniel Pipes chased me out of the University of Wisconsin in 2006. Now it’s payback time. January 5th Will War on Islam End in 2013? Let’s call the “war on terror” by its real name – and end it. January 4th. ....etc.....
http://www.veteranstoday.com/author/barrett/
.....Kevin Barrett ..... for more....
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.....(....).Madsen suggests that Marshall, a long-time
participant in covert operations, deve-loped a penchant for truth during the
last years of his life. According to Madsen, Marshall had stated that he was
holding explosive information, that would be revealed in his next book. The
repeated professional-clean-ups of Marshall’s house after the murder, suggest
that the killers, and the agency or agencies employing them, were looking for
a specific piece of evidence or information. (Marshall’s computer
mysteriously disappeared after the killings, and its whereabouts remain unknown.)
Below is a transcript of my interview with Wayne Madsen. A big thank-you to
whoever took the time to transcribe it! -KB *****
The Kevin Barrett Show, February 19, 2013: BARRETT: Welcome to the Kevin Barrett Show. I’m Kevin Barrett, back from a long vacation. I just spent two weeks in Iran over at the film festival, The Hollywoodism Conference, as part of the as part of the Fajr Film Festival in Tehran. And wow, that was pretty exciting, and one of the pieces of news that arrived from the US of A while I was in Tehran, was the killing of Phillip Marshall and his two children in California. ....(....) BARRETT: That’s Wayne Madsen. He’s on the web at waynemadsenreport.com – that’s W-A-Y-N-E, Wayne, and Madsen is M-A-D-S-E-N. Waynemadsenreport.com. Highly recommended. If you’re going to actually pay money to subscribe to any news service, you’d a lot better with Wayne, than just about anybody else out there. Certainly a lot better than, oh, the New York Times, or your local newspaper. I’m Kevin Barrett, this is No Lies Radio. Once again, my radio blog is truthjihadradio.blogspot.com, and the website is truthjihad.com. Back here next week, and tomorrow, I’ll have a really terrific show on the evil, rival network again – find out about it truthjihadradio.blogspot.com. Until the next one, have a great Tuesday afternoon.
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