Saturday, August 24, 2013

KTFA's Frank26 & Members Dialogue

KTFA's Frank26 & Members Dialogue

08/24/2013
dew7 wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 9:59 am: With still the hopes of the HCL being passed, the articles of increased value of the Dinar by June 2014 articles coming out, and the new file that Frank wants to open on Monday's CC call, it seems to me we are not as close to this thing happening as I thought we were or wish.... I just dislike seeing articles with projected dates this far out again... how many times must we go in circles with this?

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 10:26 am  •   Please avoid 52 pick up.

As I tell You that IF Iraq has FAILED to lift the 000 of their currency to improve their exchange rate .. AND THEY KNOW THIS .. Then watch the IMF embarrass them.

They were given full permission to do this on their own with or without M this year.

Just LIKE the USA Troops .. The IMF will also take over to finish the job if need be.

One last thing... Look at Your notes. Where did I tell You last year that M and his family would end up? ..... London.  Ta Da.  Aloha Friday KTFA Ohana..KTFA, Frank
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walkongstick wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 10:32 am:  India to explore local currency trade possibility with Iraq   By PTI | 23 Aug, 2013, 03.05PM IST4

We are exploring possibilities (of payment in local currencies -- dinar and rupee) as we have substantial import ... ," Sharma said.

NEW DELHI: Faced with declining value of rupee and volatile exchange rate, India is exploring the possibility of bilateral trade with Iraq in domestic currencies, Commerce and Industry Minister Anand Sharma said today.

The issue of payment for trade in local currencies will be discussed during the bilateral meetings between visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Kamil Al-Maliki and Indian Ministers.

"We are exploring possibilities (of payment in local currencies -- dinar and rupee) as we have substantial import ... We will definitely be discussing this issue," Sharma told reporters here.

India-Iraq bilateral trade currently stands at around USD 21 billion.

Speaking at function organised by industry chambers, visiting Prime Minister Al-Maliki invited Indian industry to take advantage of the business opportunities in different sectors like agriculture, health and education in Iraq.

"I invite Indian companies to invest in Iraq. There are great opportunities and wide avenues in different sectors," he added.

Payment for trade in local currencies will to some extent help India in dealing with the exchange rate volatility and declining value of rupee, which yesterday slipped to a lifetime low of 65.56 against the US dollar intra-day.  LINK

Post By lcm » August 23rd, 2013, 10:56 am  •  [Post 236] Excellent Article WS !

Why would India do that if the currency (dinar) isn't traded internationally?

They are getting US dollars right now from any sales to Iraq.

Would you accept dinar if the only place you can exchange it as at the CBI in Iraq and at the current value??? - unlesssssssssssss you are speculating that the value of the dinar is going to increase sustainably over your currency in the near future.

You have to have a presence in Iraq to accept local currency, you can't send it outside the CBI (Iraq) currently. They have to convert it at the auctions to US dollars to send it to India.

I don't know but this seems to shed some light on they are going international soon???

There's seems to be more to the story (statement) then they are shedding light on. Hmm?

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 11:08 am  •  [Post 239] Oh my goodness. Wow... WOw... WOW!!! This is not only interesting but the why's behind it are very good for our investment. IMO............. Amen.  KTFA, Frank

Post By Jim33 » August 23rd, 2013, 12:04 pm  •  [Post 255] Thank you Frank for the info thus far today. Is there any way we can get any additional info from Eagle1 as well? My wife and I watched the money shows into the wee hours of the morning. There is a lot of confusion on the 3 hour shut down. Here are some comments made,   "The problem has been "Identified and Addressed?"

"The problem stemmed from and "Un-named" exchange participant?"

Has it been fixed? They know who it is, but are not telling? Is this the IMF? If the family could get a post from Eagle1, on anything, that would be appreciated. Thank you again Frank and Tink for all that you do. :handshake3:

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 12:51 pm  •  [Post 264] I posted yesterday that I will open a new file on Monday's CC ............. It will answer many of Your qts  KTFA, Frank

Alan wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 1:09 pm: Not so sure why it cant be seen just as it is... A shutdown and a restart... Or a glitch as they put it.. I mean we believe that the Forex hasent been loaded with all the currencies because of some glitch.. Thats what its being sold to us as... A glitch in the system.. and this is been going on for two months.. NASDAQ was only down 3 hrs.. I dunno.. But computers break ........

I see a system that went down and now its back up with no visable changes... So, it appears to be pretty black and white.. Im not one to always try and find gold at every rainbow..

I like to think outside the box but not at the expense of reality.... Just my two cents and no offense to those who are trying to find hope in this matter. Look in my left hand so you dont see whats in my right........Also, not sure if I over read the articles but i didnt see where it said M was in London.. I saw the articles say M's family was in London..

Post By Bluebeach » August 23rd, 2013, 1:37 pm  •  [Post 280] Alan, the part that always catches my attention on these type of 'computer problems' is that you would have to believe that their entire IT department is just sitting there scratching their heads wondering what happened and further that they are too stupid to figure it out, not to mention the part about having purchased crappy hardware.

It's just doesn't ring true. It's one thing for you and me to have a computer malfunction (which is what the articles imply you could relate to), it's another thing to have something this big go this wrong in a system that is being manned by the brightest minds in the country.

I do agree though, not everything is smoke and likewise not everything is related to the dinar - but 'glitch' is a cop-out in my world.

Post by Sheba » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:50 pm • [Post 283]  Frank:  I just read an Internet article regarding Iraq & India's PM's meeting to discuss oil being traded to India in exchange for assistance in rebuilding Iraq's infrastructure. India is requesting payment be made in India's currency (ruple) to help India's currency situation. Will this force Iraq to raise the value of their currency to do business?

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:10 pm  •  [Post 12] I like things in threes so here goes............

#1) Toilet paper can NOT help used toilet paper.

What India and Iraq are doing is the same thing that MANY investors are doing right now ............. Using a new rate without our knowledge.  Because for now it is none of our business.  But ... IMO ... they are making it ......... Ours.  KTFA, Frank

abrahamschosen wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 7:05 pm: And for my prize I would love a blue post from Mr. Frank 26 explaining if CL speech today was what he was looking for pleaseeeeeeeeeee :daisy: :daisy:

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:14 pm  •  [Post 14] #2) Study and learn and follow this as it evolves.

Post by walkingstick » Fri Aug 23, 2013 2:06 pm • [Post 288]   COMPILATION +5

Indian Minister: We will discuss with Maliki payment in trade between the two countries in local currencies instead of the dollar   Friday, August 23 / August 2013 20:28

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In the NBA special from New Delhi told all of Iraq [where] that the Minister of Indian Commerce and Industry Anand Sharma said on Friday that his country was considering the possibility that the bilateral trade with Iraq in the two currencies rupee and the dinar instead of the dollar in order to face devaluation of the Indian rupee and exchange rates volatile.

The Indian minister said that the issue of payment in local currencies in trade between the two countries will be discussed during the bilateral meetings between Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki and Minister Indians.

"We are exploring the possibilities (pay in the local currency, the dinar and the rupiah), we have to import large and we will certainly discuss this issue.

It is known that the bilateral trade between India and Iraq have now reached about 21 billion U.S. dollars.

Meanwhile, al-Maliki has called in a meeting organized by the Chambers of Industry Indian industry to take advantage of business opportunities in different sectors in Iraq, such as agriculture, health and education in Iraq.

He said, "I invite Indian companies to invest in Iraq. There are great opportunities and broad prospects in different sectors."

Experts believe that the Indians will pay in the local currency will help to some extent India in dealing with exchange rate fluctuations and the devaluation of the rupee which fell to its lowest level on record 65.56 against the U.S. dollar during the day / End  LINK

August 23, 2013, 6:11 a.m. ET

India, Iraq to Discuss Payment Mechanism Countries Seeking Partnerships in Oil-and-Gas, Chemical,

By BIMAN MUKHERJI And SAURABH CHATURVEDI CONNECT

NEW DELHI—India and Iraq will explore the possibility of a payment mechanism in their local currencies as the nations seek to expand their business partnerships, Indian Trade Minister Anand Sharma said Friday.

Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who is in India on a four-day visit, said his country will seek partnerships with India in the oil-and-gas, chemical and agricultural sectors.

India and Iraq are scheduled to sign an agreement on cooperation in the energy sector later in the day, which is expected to substantially increase fuel supplies to India.

The details of the agreement will be disclosed only at the time of its signing, according to Mridul Kumar, a joint secretary at India's foreign ministry.

Iraq is the second-largest supplier of crude oil to India after Saudi Arabia. India's crude-oil imports from Iraq are estimated at about $20 billion annually.

Last year, India introduced a rupee payment mechanism with another oil exporter, Iran. Under that system, worked out by New Delhi and Tehran to skirt Western sanctions against Iran, India places rupee-denominated payments in an Indian bank to pay for oil.

Funds are debited from that account when Iran purchases Indian goods that include grains, drugs, consumer products and auto parts.  LINK

walkongstick wrote on Fri Aug 23, 2013 10:32 am: India to explore local currency trade possibility with Iraq By PTI | 23 Aug, 2013, 03.05PM IST4

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:14 pm  •  [Post 14] As for CL .... No .... Nothing yet.  KTFA, Frank

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:21 pm  •  [Post 16]  And #3)............ Yes ..... I and You NOW know that M's family is in London. But I was asked where is M? Answer: He hides behind skirts.  Most of his are in London............ ;)  KTFA, Frank

Post By Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 7:33 pm  •  [Post 19]   #3.5) ........... LOL. If the NYSE is accustomed to giving us incorrect numbers then why would it be so difficult for them to lie about a glitch? It's not. KTFA, Frank

jd435d wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 7:55 pm: I would like to know why another 0 was added to the exchange rate today and very few noticed 1166.00 to 1166.000

Post by Frank26 » August 23rd, 2013, 8:04 pm  •  [Post 27] Look at other currencies across the board to see if You find the same. IMO..... Variables were opened to swing in either direction yesterday hidden among ..... lies.KTFA, Frank

jd435d wrote on August 23rd, 2013, 7:55 pm: I would like to know why another 0 was added to the exchange rate today and very few noticed 1166.00 to 1166.000

Post By lcm » August 23rd, 2013, 8:16 pm  •  [Post 31] I do have a comment on why they add another zero. If they are going to go to $.86 or there about, they need the third zero to list the fraction of the value. i.e. $.867 and so on.

Technically if you're going to trade it on the FOREX you need four zeros to the right of the decimal. Hmm?

Post By jd435d » August 23rd, 2013, 6:55 pm • [Post 24]  I would like to know why another 0 was added to the exchange rate today and very few noticed 1166.00 to 1166.000

Post By trident704 » August 23rd, 2013, 10:20 pm  •  [Post 71] Good evening, everyone. jd435d, yours is an astute observation. Allow me to illustrate. Most currency pairs are quoted using five digits.

The placement of the decimal point depends on whether or not it is a JPY (Japanese YEN) currency pair. If it is, then two digits appear after the decimal point.

For all other currency pairs, there are four digits to the right of the decimal point. For example, EUR/USD looks like this: 1.3053 ...but USD/JPY looks like this: 84.23 ...now, a "pip" is what the last digit to the right of the decimal point is called.

Thus, if something moved from 1.2345 to 1.2350, it is said to have moved five pips. To have three digits to the right of the decimal point, like the currencies currently listed on the CBI website, means this listing is now viewed as having a "fractional" position for trade, or one-tenth of a pip.

This is good news for traders because such currencies now have narrower trading spreads. Instead of trading whole pips, like a 3 as the last digit to the right of the decimal point, you see these currencies having a more narrow trading spread of 2.2, or 2.6.

If a currency is even, or what is termed "zeroed out", like 1166.000, the new last digit to the third place, right of the decimal, would appear like 1166.002, or 1166.006.

This means lower transaction costs, over time. Think of it as having the ability to use dimes to break apart an uneven dollar amount, rather than just rounding up, or paying by increments instead of whole minutes on your cellphone.

trident704 » August 23rd, 2013, 10:28 pm  •  [Post 75]  To clarify my last posting, I am aware that the Japanese Yen on the CBI site also now shows three digits to the right of the decimal point.

My earlier remarks remain unchanged, in the sense that this is a good thing for traders. A positive move on the market's part. In His timing, and according to His will, Amen.

Thanks to all for their hard work and dedication; Frank, Tink, Delta, Eagle1, Atlas, and the KTF Cast of Thousands. Soli deo gloria.

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/08/ktfas-frank26-members-dialogue.html

Part 2 Tony TNT CC Notes With Q & A

Part 2 Tony TNT CC Notes With Q & A

08/23/2013
c- the separation of the dinar, to have the acct. open, and you have $100 in it, and then put the dinar in, now you have mixed your money

c-is it best to open it when you do the exchange

t- to keep it clear and clean.... and have DB wire it, take one note, to open it, I'd open it with the dinar note and then have the $ transferred and then go back and open a new acct. and then close the other account

c- was going to do the exchange right there at the bank, and the acct. that I opened w/ the $100, put the VND there and then open a new one

t- they'll open as many as you want
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c- did they get the systems in sync

t- supposedly, they tried it for 3 hours last night

c- if you picked, between

a. this weekend

b. end of next week

c. before September

how fast do you see this getting done

t- I'll take 'A', because I know what they are trying to do, and I know the time frame for the latest agreement and know something bigger and better to happen on Tuesday

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c- sounds like the Dong will have value and go w/ the IQD

t- correct

c- the dong taxed reg. and the IQD have a lower tax

t- all I know from Washington, the IQD a 1, 2,% tax, and the rest of the currency's taxed normally.. but a special program for the IQD, and maybe because its tracked by Treasury notes and the rest by Federal notes

c- whats an SKR

t- Safe Keeping Receipt, privileged ppl get an SKR from the bank and cant touch, but in the last 72 hours there is another bank that was doing the same thing w/ the dong, and put it on deposit w/ the rate they were told it would go live at

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c- ppl are getting really creative on getting a date and rate out of you

c- the multiple choice questions, and read a post and some caller put out 2014, and read the post of the IQD will increase by then, and the ? is that the in country, the citizens are not at fully 3.44

t- the ones w/ contracts

c- contractors

c- but the citizens

t- .98 or 1.18

( listing to me now, can you send me the updated info )

c- so they are in their own float

t- technically, float up over a period of years, they could be right in the fact that they are getting back paid at .98 and for 2011 at 1.18 - so the back pay that they should have gotten and it was a few years ago, and we're so far behind, and .... we don't know anyone with more than 3.44 and we were told that's the rate we'll start at, if we don't get our act together

t- don't think they have enough resources to give them the info

c- the citizens

t-no the person that gave you the info

c- thinking ...

t- it will fully mature for the Iraqi citizens as soon as we RV - that will be there rate

c- i listen to you and believe what you say, and appreciate your hard work and what your mods do

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c- with Mtn. Goats post, fantastic, but what time frame do you think they'll have the NASDAQ fixed

t- far as I know it is, still trading today

c- the system that they are tying to implement

t- supposedly they worked it out, ran it for 3 hours last night, but not now, it would disrupt things

t- the ppl from 5 countries here to oversee it, and they can see it themselves, and we can't fix it, they are here to fix it, outside voices, experts, more intense effort, ppl assume what they can do, but you never did this before.. so the ppl that should have been brought in years ago...here we are either way, either the US is having a problem or they are BSing us and we need to go in and do it

c- best time frame then, to hear and see its done and completed...gun shy

t- well, they could be, but could try today after the market closed and have an issue on Sunday and fix it, or it is fixed, ...... i am being told it could go any minute, and it could take another 24, but they're absolutely fed up with it and the deadline is over the weekend....

TONY; KNOWING LAST NIGHT THAT BANKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND WERE ABSOLUTELY GIDDY ABOUT WHAT THEY WERE SEEING AND LAST NIGHT COUNTRIES WERE PREPARING CELEBRATIONS IN DC AND WERE MADE THEY DIDN'T GET TO CELEBRATE, SO WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS

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c- appreciate you... make common sense of it.. have a concern, but sent a private message to RayRen, but cases in Kansas City and old business... know that innocent till proven guilty and nothing in what I found upon researching the info in the email.. would cause me to think anything going on, but need someone to get in touch with me, and...

t- I've gone through this 3 years

c- but we are at a critical juncture, but someone who doesn't know how to investigate

t- listen

t- listen

t- if you want to talk, you have to listen, this has been going on for 7 years

c- i do know

t- listen, let me talk, if you look at the name, mine and another guy, his ex father in law, its a personal thing, there were hundreds involved, and they list 9, 10, I'm not concerned with it, and just yesterday, my background has been checked by the FBI, Homeland Security and the CIA, and I spend time locally with ex Police, my next door neighbor ex FBI

but just yesterday, I got, I don't have an issue with it... anyway, just got from, another country that the FBI contacted them, we know exactly who he is, and if he was a bad guy, we'd know it and you would know it too

t- this is what happens and i tell you whats going on, and tell you the truth and some ppl can't verify it, the where with all , the common sense, or the heart to take the info, not just me, but others, ie. Okie,

they'll attack the person, not the info, I've made the info ... ppl blindly follow, and not going to get into that, we just put the info out, and those smart enough to figure it out... I'm not concerned about an email that goes around, but if it worries you - don't go on the call - no one has to be here...

I haven't asked anyone to get into any biz. with me, or send me money or invest with me... i haven't directed you to any bank, none of that, so if that's your concern - but my biz. is my biz. and I'm giving you what applies to you  Hopefully that's the last time....

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c- don't think you needed to go through that w/ the last caller, we don't really care

c- last Friday you said there was an outside date when they told their ppl they would be International

t- think it was the 1st of Sept. and we didn't want to hear that, didn't want to hear it would go that long, but heard from 2, 3 ppl that it was on Fox news that they were international... need to get it clarified and confirmed

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c- you say the time frame is in the next few days, something bigger and better on Tuesday, it boggles my brain, returning to Asset Based currency or official announcement

t- dont' think there will be movement of money around the globe, and it will affect our country and you wont' hear about it

c- and the Rv has to occur before that

t- yes and hope they live up to that  that's the plan today

c- the cut off time, if you don't push it through, and its in the next 24 hours or the weekend

t- correct

c- the ME, and what Phoenix used to talk about, kick over the game board and have a war

t- that i'm not going to answer

c- the whole idea of getting SKR at 3.68

t- yep

c- so if it comes out lower, that might be an amt. we can ask for at the bank

t- the highest it was supposed to go, was 3.10, but things changed, every time we get more all the other countries get more....but if it goes back down to 3.44 they all have to go down, because its based on the value of the dinar

c- NASDAQ freeze, dark liquidity pools....was it scheduled, or testing connections

t- my take is that someone had 72 hours notice that it was going down and it went down

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c- another reason to have a TAG or NIB acct. and put the Dinar into it, the it would be Taxed that way if it were in the Fed. Res.?

t- don't know, coming from a real good source, they're involved in money, that's what they do, and telling you to keep it separated

c- but open an acct. just for dinar, but if it had interest it would come from the Fed. Res

t- don't think the interest would apply, but don't....

c- but 1-2 %, can you ask our friend

t- if they wanted your money, they wouldn't tell us to do that

c- the new acct. that it goes into, they'd track it, and you wouldn't want to put anything in it either

t- keep it separate  have more than one acct.  more than one black card

c- so all the dinar, nothing from the Fed.Res

t- as the money gets devalued, NIB accts. and makes no sense, so devalue one they devalue the other one  -- unless like in Greece... interest accts. they will

c-both you and Mnt. Goat have the champagne in the fridge, getting ready to celebrate

t- its a way to tell you how close we are, in DC they had it on the table and it didn't go, and frustrated a bunch of them... not the first time, ppl are looking for this at any moment, dont' know the moment, was supposed to be last night, and still waiting on it

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c- can't wait for the text

c- when you like a person so much, that lady shouldn't have come on a public call like that, she should go somewhere else and everyone needs to clean their own yard and she needs to clean her own

t- ok

c- heard a Phoenix call, and said the HCL had to be implemented

t- my thoughts are that all agreements are in place and won't be announced until the rv, as long as they aren't announced, there is a reason in their minds... but as soon as they do that, and the RV is announced, and it looks like they aren't in control, that's what we don't want

t- their entire population is not listening to the call, are some listening yes, and learning about their gov... but its not for the masses to know, and everyone that hates the Western Hemisphere to know

c- in Vegas, have you ever smoked Hookah

t- no

c- lol, you need to try it, as a token of my appreciation, I want to get you hookah pipe what flavors do you like

t- I some cigars and a pipe, my son goes to hookah bars

c- my son did, and someone else turned me onto this,and I like this  - are you fruity

t- no, I'm not fruity  they look like bongs to me

c- want to give it to you in Vegas

t- I'll be there

c- see you in Vegas

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c-we arent' going to get high rates, pre Saddam notes,

t- if you have Pre Saddam notes, you are not getting any rate,

c- 3 horse notes...

t- don't know about 3 horse notes

t- unless you have the notes w/ the 7 identifying notes, if I were you go to a bank and let them open the book and see if your note is authentic.... run the black light....

c- not going to worry...

t- you can go to Sterling and they have something to explain that

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c- can't get on the site to join, can Pam call me

t- will see if she can call you  -- ask her and see if you get a commitment

PAM; of course

c- the other lady is a small person to do what she did, like the other lady said, she needs to clean her back yard

t- ty

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c-wow, excited, thank you to you and the mods and RayRen, and had an opportunity to speak w/ RayRen, heart to heart, nervous....

t- where are you from

c- been 2 years, trying to get on the call  from Who Dat City, and Who Dat Nation

t- that's the problem, lol

c- this is a privilege to get the info that we get, and other investments, never had so much info, and a lot of it, taking it... and you enjoy the ride when you can, this is going to be over and I believe it will be over soon...music in the evening and the info... who can get info on health..wealth, and spiritual.. on OM w the TNT family

c- no question

t- let me say this, thank you and really want to say that to all of you

t- its my hope that I've done a good enough job of educating you, and my niece is a Pres. of a College, and she says, that this ppl get this education for $15 a month, and i appreciated that, and now its free,

and that was my hope even then, a diff. way to think about things and look at things, and I have to go back and say man I missed that, missing pieces of the puzzle, info on Gov. work, countries work, and how individuals work, you can see that from the diff. sites, and you will take it into the future with you,

 something will happen 6 mos. from now and you're remember 'Tony" said this or that, but prepared for the future, not that the date wasn't right or the rate, but should have been about the info and the process sand see how its put together...invest in what, who am I looking for, versus the guy that says send me your money and you get nothing for it... show me how you do it, don't do it and I wind up w/ nothing anywhere....new partners.... new biz...

c- my son was on ptr, and then in college and he did research and changed his major, and helped in so many ways and offered him full time positions...and he invested into currency and its been very educational... very thankful

c- if it weren't for a sister friend of mine, want to shout out to her for sharing it with me and my family -her name is Min  - ask about the rate -- what do you think they will be

t- we had an opportunity to have a double digit rate and don't think we will let it slip by

t- anything over $10 is ridiculous, but if we get it, you'll have to take a trip to the ER

c- looking forward to Vegas  - the other night, my ear piece on OM, and doing dishes, and the new song was playing Superfantstic, not a rap person, and my son comes in the kitchen and I got the groove on, and my son is looking at me, nothings on, the tv not on, had my arms in the air... too funny

c- everyone is going to have a story my other sister in Who Dat Nation, BETRUETOME on the boards, lets enjoy this

t- ty

ok guys  THAT'S WHY I LIKE TALKING TO YOU  TO SEE WHAT YOU ARE GETTING OUT OF THINGS AND GOT EDUCATED AND OUT OF OUR OWN BOX, SQUARE I'M IN SACRAMENTO 2 AIR FORCE BASES ONE ON ONE SIDE OF TOWN THE OTHER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN

AND ASK GUYS ON THE BASE AND SAY I'M GOING TO XX BASE AND THEY SAY - WHERE IS THAT NEVER BEEN THERE HERE IN SACRAMENTO AND SAY I'M GOING TO RENO ITS AN HOUR AND A HALF AWAY

NEVER BEEN TO RENO HOW CAN YOU LIVE HERE 20 YEARS AND NEVER BEEN THERE AND GO TO THE SOUTH AREA AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET TO SOMETHING IN THE NORTH AREAS NEVER BEEN THERE - GOT TO GET OUT OF YOUR COMFORT ZONE IN LIFE - AND THAT'S WHAT I HOPE THIS HAS DONE

A DIFF. WAY OF THINKING TRANSLATING INFO - BUT WE ALL LIVE IT TOGETHER

PART OF MY PROBLEM\ WELL NOT PROBLEM BUT BEEN TO SO MANY COUNTRIES DIFF. NATIONALITIES AND DIFF RELIGIONS - ITS NOT ABOUT US - EVEN WHEN THE GUY LIVES IN ANOTHER PART OF TOWN - AND I HAVE TO TAKE THIS INTO ACCT

JOKE; OVERSEAS THEY SAY.. WHAT DO YOU CALL SOMEONE WHO KNOWS 3 LANGUAGES

TRI-ILINGUAL

SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS 2 LANGUAGES

BI-LINGUAL

SOMEONE THAT SPEAKS 1 LANGUAGE

AMERICAN

GOT TO GET THAT BUT THE MORE WE CAN RESPECT EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND THE BETTER IT WILL BE INTHIS WORLD

MOUNTAIN GOAT BEING RESPONSIBLE AND SOMEONE ELSE I SPOKE TO THIS MORNING THEY DIDN'T JUST GIVE US MONEY ITS PART OF THE PLAN AND OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP OUR COUNTRY AND DO THE RIGHT THING

AND THEY EXPECT YOU TO INVEST IT AND HELP LESS FORTUNATE PPL ITS IN OUR HANDS AND PART OF THE NOT JUST THE COUNTRY, SOCIAL PROGRAMS ITS IN OUR HANDS DO THEY BENEFIT ABSOLUTELY

BUT ITS A 2 FOLD WIN WIN SITUATION IT WASN'T DONE BY ACCIDENT AND ITS A BENEFIT BY GIVING US THE MONEY AND THE MORE THEY GIVE THE MORE THE BENEFIT WHEN PPL BLAME OBAMA AND WHEN THEY ARE GREEDY YOU BENEFIT

DO I WISH IT COULD HAVE HAPPENED 2 YEARS AGO  WITH ALL MY HEART 2 MONTHS AGO 2 WEEKS AGO YES - BUT HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESPECT TO EACH OTHER ACROSS THE LINES - OUR BOARD WILL NOT BECOME WHAT THE OTHER BOARD BECAME

WE HAVE OPEN MINDED PPL HERE - AND WITHOUT ACTING LIKE CHILDREN - ENJOY YOUR DAY AND I'LL ENJOY MINE I'VE GOT TEXTS AND IF IT IMPACTS YOU I'LL DO A BLAST - HAVE A GREAT DAY

I DID COMMIT -- I SAID IF IT IMPACTS YOU....

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Part 1 Tony TNT CC Notes With Q & A

Part 1 Tony TNT CC Notes With Q & A

08/23/2013
OFFICIAL CALL NOTES, TNT Dinar
By: Montana

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REPLAY LINK

GOOD MORNING TNT RADIO BE WITH YOU IN A MINUTE

OK NEW VERSION OF THE SONG TODAY?

RAY: YES

I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD IT MYSELF  TURNED ON Q & A OFF TO THE RACES

OK, GOOD MORNING TNT HOW ARE YOU DOING TODAY

INTERESTING DAY YESTERDAY  THATS FOR SURE LOT OF PPL WERE EXCITED    GOOD REASON FOR THE EXCITEMENT
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Read More Link On Right

  AND I'LL START THE CALL OFF LIKE THIS ANYONE THAT THINKS THAT IT DIDN'T HAVE TO DO W/ THE GLOBAL RESET IS A COMPLETE IDIOT  IT HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT  WANTED YOU GUYS TO KNOW THAT

GOT ALL KINDS OF GOOD INFO HERE TODAY IS FRIDAY, AUGUST 23RD A DAY WE NEVER THOUGHT WE'D SEE HERE NEVER EVER  - THOUGHT WE'D BE HERE TALKING ABOUT THIS  AND THOSE THAT WANT TO SAY ITS GOING INTO SEPT

PPL IN DC THAT ARE HIGHLY UPSET AND LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT TNTDINAR.COM IS A SITE THAT PPL COME TO AND WANT ALL THE INFO AND WHY WE HEAR IT AND WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO US

SEEING HERE THAT THERE ARE PPL COMING OVER FROM THE OTHER SITE TELL YOU THINGS DIFF. VARIATIONS BUT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE DOING WE'RE TAKING A STRONGER STAND ON IT THE MODS ARE GETTING COMPLAINTS

MOST INTELLIGENT PPL CONSISTENTLY HEAR WHAT THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR WHY WOULD YOU GO THERE? I DON'T GO TO RESTAURANTS THAT I DON'T LIKE THEIR FOOD I DON'T PUT ON THE TV CHANNEL AND WATCH THINGS I DON'T LIKE

INTELLIGENCE HAS NOTHING TO DO W/ AGREEING WITH TONY BUT A WAY TO ASK QUESTIONS WITHOUT MOCKING EACH OTHER  - WE CAME HERE TO GET AWAY FROM THAT BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IDIOTS ABOUT THE SITUATION

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET 8 9, PPL CONTROL THE BOARD AND RUIN IT NOT WITH 14,000 PPL THE MODS WILL GIVE WARNINGS AND THEN THEY'LL BE GONE

THIS SITE WILL BE A SITE THAT PPL CAN COME TO AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS - NOT CHILDISH STUFF

YOU KNOW WE HAVE MENTALLY CHALLENGED CHILDREN AND ADULTS AND THE CONSTANTLY BUMP THEIR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL - THEY KNOW ITS GOING TO HURT THEY KNOW ITS GOING TO BLEED SO THEY PUT DONUTS ON THEIR HEADS OR THEY REMOVE THEM FROM THE SITUATION

WITH THOSE THAT ARE IN THE SITUATION IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE SENSE TO DO IT THEMSELVES THIS SITE WILL BE A SITE THAT PPL CAN COME TO AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS NOT CHILDISH STUFF NOT ABOUT 'YOU MORON'...ETC.

IF ITS ABOUT YOU DON'T KNOW THIS OR THAT YOU DON'T BELONG HERE - THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT

HERE IS THE OTHER THING - WHAT ABOUT THE RV IN IRAQ - HOW COME WE DONT' TALK ABOUT THAT ANYMORE - I DON'T KNOW EVERYTHING - BUT PRETTY SURE I TOLD EVERYONE THEY PAID 3.44 - 1.18 - .98  FOR 2010 AND 2011

OUR FIRST INDICATION WAS THE 3.44 ON THE CARD, WHICH WAS THE RV RATE - BUT NOW THEY HAVE DIFF. RATES - IF THEY ARE CONTRACTORS, OR GOV. WORKERS - IT WAS TO CALM THEM DOWN

NOT AN OFFICIAL RV STILL TALKING TO OUR CONTACTS $$ STILL ON THE CARDS - BUYING THINGS THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO BUY BEFORE

PPL THAT COME FROM THE OTHER SITE  START SOMETHING WE LOOK AT SOMEONE AND THEY'RE HERE ONE DAY AND HAVE TEN POSTS AND THEY ARE ALL NEGATIVE  - WE KNOW WHERE THEY CAME FROM

FILE A COMPLAINT LET US HANDLE IT AND THAT SHOULD CALM YOU DOWN

EVERYTHING I'M ABOUT TO TELL YOU WILL GET YOU EXCITED  BUT I'VE SAID CONSTANTLY DONT' BUY DINAR BASED ON THIS - WE ARE CLOSE - HEARD IT 5 TIMES THIS WEEK - BUT IT HASN'T GONE

DON'T BUY DINAR OR DO RESERVES BASED ON THIS INFO AND I CAN SAY IT FREELY - THERE IS NOT ONE SITE THAT PAYS ME TO HAVE YOU BUY DINAR FROM THEM

NOT ONE BANK IS PAYING ME TO HAVE YOU CASH OUT WITH THEM - NOT ONE SITE PAYING ME TO HAVE YOU CASH OUT W/ THEM -  I CAN FREELY SAY THAT BUT I KNOW SOME THAT ARE

( CAN'T CHECK MESSAGES WHEN I'M ON THE CALL )

GOT A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS FROM THE CALL SITE AND THEN WE'LL GO LIVE, PAM GAVE ME 10-15 MIN. EXTRA TO WORK WITH - I HAVE ONE GUY TO PUT ON THE CALL REAL QUICK - IT DOES PERTAIN TO YOU - HOLD ON

YOU WON'T ENJOY THIS, BUT BETTER TO HEAR FROM THE PERSON HIMSELF - THEN HEAR IT FROM ME

THIS IS MR. WHITE - HE CONTACTED ME THIS MORN. AND AN EXP. HE WENT THRU

HELLO THANK YOU TONY AND YOUR STAFF-

THIS HAPPENED TO ME PERSONALLY IN THE LAST 48 HOURS - WENT TO VISIT MY SON, IN ANOTHER STATE - TAKE MY DINAR, NEVER LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT, AND WENT TO THE AIRPORT

THIS IS A WARNING ON TAKING YOUR DINAR THROUGH THE AIRPORT

HAD IT IN THE BAG - WENT THRU THE CONVEYOR - THE SECURITY GUARD SAID HE HAD TO CHECK IT - LOOKED IN THE BAG - SAW MY DINAR IN MY BAG - HE TURNED SEVERAL SHADES OF COLORS - IT WAS A FEW MILLION DOLLARS

CALLED HIS SUPERVISOR OVER & - CAME OVER WIT 2 ARMED GUARDS - LOOKED INSIDE AND THE SUPERVISOR SAID: - "OH DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, ITS WORTH PENNIES

THE OTHER GUY KEPT MESSING WITH IT , THE 1ST GENTLEMEN THAT WAS LOOKING AT IT - HE SAID LOTS OF FOLKS WAITING ON THIS - ITS ONLY WORTH PENNY'S NOW - GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!!!

I KNEW THEY WANTED TO TAKE MY DINAR, THE 1ST MAN HAD INTENTIONS TO TAKE MY DINAR, THERE WAS A LOT IN THERE.

TONY: THIS GOES WITH WHAT WE HEARD OF THE TSA MEMO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE - KNOW THAT THEY WILL BE LOOKING AT IT, THANK YOU MR. WHITE

MR.WHITE, NO PROBLEM THANK YOU AND YOUR STAFF, BEEN IN THIS 6 YEARS.. GOD BLESS

TONY: OK GUYS, LET ME GO TO Q & A REAL QUICK  SEE IF I CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF THIS BEFORE WE GO TO THE REAL PPL

MOUNTAIN GOAT KEEPS MENTIONING TO KEEP OUR MONEY SEPARATE FOR TAX PURPOSES:

ANSWER: I DIDN'T GET IT FROM MTN. GOAT, BUT FROM DC. TO KEEP YOUR IQD MONEY, SEPARATE FROM ANY OTHER MONEY, ANY OTHER ACCOUNTS, BECAUSE ONE WILL BE TAXED DIFFERENTLY FROM ALL THE OTHERS,

AND IF YOU MIX THEM, IT WILL BE TAXED AT THE HIGHER RATE...

THE IQD IS BEING TRACKED BY THE UST, EVERY DOLLAR, THAT'S WHY THEY WANT IT IN SEPARATE ACCTS... THE PAYMENTS MADE ON VISA CARDS, AND THEY WANT IT SEPARATED FOR THAT PURPOSE

INDONESIAN RUPIAH, VND, IF YOU CASH IT OUT AND PUT IT IN W/ THE IQD...

lost the radio

THE REST OF THE WORLD IS SAYING LETS JUST DO THIS - THAT'S PART OF THE IT SITUATION - NEVER HAS NASDAQ BEEN FOR 3 HOURS - WHEN FB HAPPENED IT WAS DOWN FOR MINUTES, MESSED UP THEIR IPO

BUT TALKED TO PPL PERSONALLY - AND TWICE WAS TOLD THE SYSTEM COULDNT' TALK W/ THE OLD

I HEARD THAT WASHINGTON WAS UPSET ABOUT IT BUT I HEARD IT--FOX TV AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF PPL HEARD IT - NOW THEY ARE SAYING - NO COMMENT - IF THAT DOESN'T TELL YOU ANYTHING

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS - I PERSONALLY SPOKE TO SOMEONE 3 DAYS THAT IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND IT WAS PART OF THE PLAN - AND IT DID IN FACT HAPPEN

NASDAQ IS THE MOST SOPHISTICATED SYSTEM IN THE WORLD - AND IT GOES DOWN AND NO ONE KNOWS - THE REST OF THE WORLD WASN'T LOOKING AT IT LIKE WE DID - THEY DON'T KNOW - DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE GLOBAL SYSTEM - THEY'RE JUST WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED W/ NASDAQ

YOU HAVE MORE INFO - YOU SHOULD KNOW WHEN YOU SEE LITTLE THINGS - IN ORDER FOR THE CIX TO WORK

THE NYSE, ETC.. CURRENT VALUES OF ANY CURRENCY IN THE WORLD, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO THAT SYSTEM - AND IT DOESN'T TAKE A BRAIN SURGEON - WOULDN'T THEY HAVE TO HAVE THE EXACT VALUES - DOESN'T THAT MAKE SENSE?

CAN YOU ASK YOUR BANK IN ATLANTA IF THEY WANT MORE PPL? - I WILL WHEN IT HAPPENS

WILL STERLING BE COMPETITIVE - HE WILL BE. HE TOLD ME THE DAY BEFORE YESTERDAY, THEY ARE NOT CHARGING ANYTHING AT ALL - NOT CHARGING THE $150 PER TRANSACTION - NO FEE'S NOTHING - ONLY THE BANK WIRE TO WIRE YOUR MONEY $40 , THE WIRE FEE ITSELF

WILL THE BANKS HELP US GET RESERVES

DON'T KNOW, HE HAS NO AGREEMENTS W/ ANY BANKS, COULDN'T SEE HOW, YOU'D HAVE TO DO A POA W/ THE BANKS, ETC... MORE TROUBLE THAN ITS WORTH...

GET RESERVES TO ASIA

NO IDEA

DO WE NEED FUNDS FROM DONG RIGHT AWAY OR WAIT TILL DUST SETTLES

I WILL EXCHANGE MINE WHEN ITS THE HIGHEST RATE, NOT WAITING FOR IT TO GO DOWN, WHEN THE DINAR RATE GOES DOWN, EVERY RATE WILL GO DOWN, THE NEW RATES ARE BASED ON HOW MUCH DINAR THEY HOLD,

SO THE SYSTEM WILL ADJUST, WE'LL SEE CRAZY NUMBERS, THERE ARE 4, 5 CURRENCIES THAT THEY WILL GET RICH OFF, BUT THOSE SAME CURRENCIES WILL GO DOWN

ASK TONY - ARE THE CALL CENTERS MANNED THIS MORN.

DON'T KNOW, HAVENT' TALKED TO BANK PERSONAL THIS MORN.

RUMOR ABOUT BEING CALLED IN AT 5AM

I KNOW THEY HAD A 3D SHIFT, AND MAYBE THEY ARE TRYING TO PUSH IT THROUGH

YESTERDAY PRES. O'S SPEECH, SAID THE DEFICIT IS GOING DOWN, IS THIS HIS WAY OF TELLING US...

IT COULD BE ABOUT THE AGREEMENT OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT WILL PAY US, BUT WE DON'T SEE IT PUBLIC, IF HE PUT IT OUT THERE, W/ EVERY AGREEMENT SOMETHING IS GOING ON

THIS TESTING SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO, HOW LONG?

GUYS YOU CAN'T TEST A LIVE SYSTEM, NYSE, THEY DON'T HAVE SYSTEMS SET UP TO RUN TESTS ON , SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO DO A LIVE TEST OR A LIVE CONNECTION AND THEN GO IN AND FIX IT,

WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN DONE YESTERDAY, AFTER IT ALL CAME BACK, THEY DID 3 HOURS OF TESTING LAST NIGHT, AND SUPPOSEDLY IT ALL CAME OUT RIGHT, BUT YET WE ARE STILL WAITING

ON FOX NEWS - IRAQ INTERNATIONAL LAST NIGHT I HEARD THAT FROM2, 3 PPL THIS MORNING - I DIDN'T SEE IT

BTW - I CAN'T DO AFTER NOON OR EVENING CALLS - I HAVE TO HAVE 'ME' TIME - WITH ALL THE INFO I HAVE - FROM THE NIGHT BEFORE, AND BELIEVE ME MIDNIGHT LAST NIGHT MY PH. WAS RINGING -- THIS IS THE BEST TIME FOR ME TO BRING YOU WHAT I CAN

DO I THINK IT WILL HAPPEN BY LABOR DAY? - THINK SO, SURE HOPE SO

VEGAS? -- THAT'S ONE EVENT THAT WILL NOT CANCEL

live q & a

c- don't know if you saw the post i put out

c- my uncle called me yesterday to tell me that, he got his 2nd order of dinar and that he talked to his friends, and talked to his friend -- at the AFB in Baghdad, Lockheed Martin, my uncle was all excited - can't take green backs off the base anymore, has to exchange it for IQD -hundreds, fifty's, ..... the rates 3.44, he doesn't know what I know... his friend was upset, a beer is 2 dinar is almost 7

t- has to pay $2 dinar for a beer

t- that's good, confirmed with our ppl and glad others see it

c- he doesn't have a clue, he didn't know , got very excited about it, looking forward to an rv real soon

t- thank you

next

some ppl said , the guy that called from Iraq - buddy there, ppl said i rushed him off, but ... ppl didn't want to hear about the friend ...

next

c- in or forum, China won't let us VND RV

t- my opinion is the VN will RV, and we have a rate, so I don't agree

c- can you tell us the rate

t- told you the ceiling of 3... and some ppl, my guys will get mad - some are getting skr's for $3.68 - don't know how long it will last, and it has occurred in the last 72 hours, and know the location and we asked someone to go there and get one -- so we will verify one way or the other....

next

c- had a question from the last call, created confusion, talked about the banks, and didn't have to have one bank compete wit the others, starting range would be the same, but then you came back and said something about a Multi Country group that came in to verify/implement the RV, and if they get to implement it first - 3.44, but if we get ours, its double digits, but are we restricted - will we get them in our country, despite the external forces, so if the externals do come, will we get double digits per our UST

t- here is the deal - good question -- lay it out - our country wants a double digit rate, higher than $14, for 2 reasons, if we get a higher rate THE COUNTRY GETS A HIGHER RATE....

now we all have dinar, the more we cash in, and dollars we have and fuel our economy ourselves, instead of the $1K stimulus, which didn't work.. w/ the rv we'll have ... we could go at $2, $3, and spend and blow 100K and it will stimulate the economy for a week or go w/ high double digits and create millionaires, even last year they put $80B into our economy and it didn't grow,

 the rich refuse to put money into the economy and they refuse to be engaged, the Gov. can't do it on their own, so the new plan is the NEW RICH, not the super rich, but the NEW rich, they will go out and spend, the plans, trains, clothes, which will stimulate the economy.

 New system that is in place and will run for 2, 3 years and then the super rich will come back into the economy...... not a bad plan, even though, we'll still be the haves and have nots....

the dollar up and down... but in the end, you'll be spending alot of money.. the gov. won't have to go in, create new programs, and we'll be the middle class again, but hopefully a middle class of millionaires and the super rich, will be billionaires. Its a designed plan

We had $14, 16, 18 dollars and now in the 20's, and it helps us and we've been agreeing and they agree,, but now we are at the breaking point, and if you dont' they said you'll lose it and start at the 3.44, tired of messing with you, and being greedy, and we want it right now today and to get us more, makes the plan work faster - everything they get funnels down...

so now if we come out at the high double digit rate, it will still go up

or start at the 3.44 rate and you're all scared and not going to gamble that it will go up, look at the paper, Troops going to Syria, told you that things were going to happen and who does it affect, the refugees are leaving and going to Iraq

so if it comes out at 3.44 then no, you'll have to gamble

if it comes out in double digits, why would you sit around and wait, you only have 30 days

Will some ppl do the other things, sure, but its sophisticated, but the masses, just give me my money.. I don't care if the tax is 50% I'll figure it out

c- from the intel you are receiving hourly, does it appear that they are trying to do this and pop this baby, or we will lose, commons sense, lets just go

t- thats what I was hearing last night and this morning, there is a definite cut off, lets see if they....

TONY: said way too much

c- the cutoff date, we were hearing something was approved for mid June 2014

c- does that still stand, or sometime in the next 30 days

t- lets go w/ the next 30 days   nothing is being set up for June of '14, or April'14, they are also the ones telling you .10   they've already loaded more than that on the cards   so does that make sense

c- diverting the situation like Kuwait, and they said they won't rv and then they did rv

TONY: MAYBE WE MISINTERPRETED AGAIN, 2 YEAR PROCESS OF DELETION OF THE 3 ZERO NOTES

t- so maybe the 30 days to swap out, but if they did the 10 days in country and 30 days outside,

c-saw on Fox, the main thing WF, why in their right mind, get rid of 2300 mortgage ppl at this point in time

t- don't know, what you don't know is the real estate market is a fake market, I have guys here, file cabinets full of foreclosures and they won't let them sell, the market is not back, high end houses are falling once again, they can't sell them

t- there are 3, 4 million of us, and we are not going to create the whole market, but if the dollar goes down, even less will buy houses, and WF is doing what they are doing, and operating like this isn't happening - so they have to operate like the economy they see

t- but yesterday, where banks rank - the fact that they talked about lowering the credit rating of certain banks in the news, GOLDMAN SACHS, JPMORGAN, WF, BOFA , CITIGROUP - go look and they are talking about lowering the rates even more

t- the fact that WF is trying to get all this money, and they were at the bottom of the list....we always talk about whats going on w/ WF... WF got the US contract to do this, but believe me the other banks will make an offer to you.

c- how close are we?

t- yep, got the champagne in there..... they called them in last night, so 2:15 they were told to be there, at 7pm they were told its going down, 11pm, they were giving 10 and 15 min. warnings, i know what they are trying to do - its an ego thing, and you can't make me do it, but its ready, we go to the line, but things get done

next

c- skeptical on Mountain Goats analysis and felt it was contrived, but hearing you - that you agree somewhat,

t- don't know who Mtn.Goat is, never spoke, but they give you the details - freely say it

t- history that I've known forever, started out w/ BofA, so you are getting details about the system... green lights and red lights, we didn't know back then, testing it and building the system, but instead of seeing the big picture, all we heard was its a lie, and that's not it, its not always about us,

its about a Global reset and the first time, and developing a new system... and ie. Christmas Lights, but if one goes out, they all go out, and then you find one and then the next string goes out..

This is the same way, only got down to country # 48, then country #62, and a diff. language, or on an old computer... until we get though it, thats real life, ppl want to tell you that they are IT guys and they don't go through that, well you are not dealing with a Global System, banking and the languages, and for ppl to simplify it and say computers are computers .... they're idiots... I shouldn't have said that

c- news, Maliki's extended family, leaving for England and he's going to India... the hypothesis is the beginning of him going to Europe, today its Turkey, don't think we'll see anyting happen to him till after this happens, the last thing they want is controversy

c- very astute, God forbid it happened to our Pres. and then the VP is here

t- our country the VP is a democrat, but in their country, the VP is a Suni and it has to be a Shite because we won...

PART 2 CONTINUED

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Christine LaGarde coded speech

[crossways] okay, I wasn't able to capture mort's post..but here is basically what mort said: CL said she wants this to happen tonight...asap...he said two of his sources said this. Just trying to share some intel

[BRO] The audio of Christine LaGarde on Bloomberg TV a few minutes ago - 8 minutes http://kiwi6.com/file/xxlcp0tehz

[RAJAF] Christine LaGarde, her speech was very coded. She spoke about unconventional monetary policies and that policy makers, both globally and locally not waste the space provided by unconventional policies and that they have a responsibility to take the full range of actions needed to restore stability. The world has done enough treading water. It is time now for policymakers to swim to the shore. Take this as some wisdom from a former synchronized swimmer!"
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'This is not something a humane world can ignore': Hague refuses to rule out full-scale invasion in Syria

CGI's Dave404: 'This is not something a humane world can ignore': Hague refuses to rule out full-scale invasion in Syria
Posted By: CGI_admin [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 23:05:05

'This is not something a humane world can ignore': Hague refuses to rule out full-scale invasion in Syria as he blames Assad for Damascus gas attack
"William Hague last night warned that the horrific chemical weapons attack in Syria was ‘not something that a humane and civilised world can ignore’.
The Foreign Secretary refused to rule out any response to Wednesday’s atrocity in Damascus.
And he laid the blame for the attack – which is reported to have killed up to 1,700 people – squarely at the door of tyrant Bashar al-Assad.
Mr Hague said the possibility that rebel fighters could have unleashed the chemicals, as claimed by the Assad regime and its Russian allies, was ‘vanishingly small’.
He said: ‘I know some people in the world would like to say this is some kind of conspiracy brought about by the opposition in Syria – I think the chances of that are vanishingly small. So we do believe this is a chemical attack by the Assad regime on a large scale.’
Mr Hague, who discussed the crisis with US Secretary of State John Kerry and UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon, called for UN chemical weapons inspectors to be allowed immediate access to the site of the attack before any evidence deteriorates."
Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2401144/William-Hague-refuses-rule-Syria-invasion-blames-Assad-Damascus-gas-attack.html#ixzz2cq7yXQzj

HISTORIC MEETING OF THE MINDS

HISTORIC MEETING OF THE MINDS
Posted By: Maryhrt [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 22:50:44
HISTORIC MEETING OF THE MINDS
San Diego, California, August 30th to September the 2nd –4th annual Libertopia Fest 2013 at the Town and Country Resort Hotel, located 500 Hotel Circle North, San Diego, CA 92108. Libertopia is a voluntary community, based on principles of Freedom, Peace, Honor, Responsibility, Respect and Spontaneous Order. Libertopia is a unique event that features an environment of actually living the freedom philosophy in ones daily life.
In conjunction with the spirit of Libertopia, of living the life you have always wanted, are 4 major freedom activists, who will be communicating the benefits of the Titania Project at 4:00 PM on Sunday in a panel discussion at the convention. The specific meeting room will be announced in the schedule of events:
Foster Gamble, creator of the inspiring movie, Thrive and leader of the Thrive Movement – one of the most innovative strategies aimed at worldwide peace and prosperity,
Clyde Cleveland, author of Common Sense Revisited and Restoring the Heart of America, co-founder of the County Sheriff Project, and lifelong libertarian educator and activist – with a unique perspective on the role of politics in human history,
Michael Badnarik, author of Good to Be King and Secret to Sovereignty, Libertarian candidate for President in 2004, a renowned expert on constitutional law and individual sovereignty. Michael knows intimately the obstacles to substantive change faced by today’s freedom activists.
Bob Podolsky, physicist / systems analyst, master psychotherapist, visionary and author of seven books on ethics law and government. Bob brings a SOLUTION based strategy for self-governance AND self awareness…Without Government! With 20 years of scientific research spanning 2,500 years of historical evidence.
Of the many excellent participants slated to appear at this year’s event, these four are embracing a new approach to solving the problems created by our coercive institutions (BORG). They will also present evidence that this integrated approach is optimal for maximizing the probability of the movement’s success.
Humanity’s BIG PROBLEM is simply our societal institutions consistently making unethical decisions. All the other problems our species faces are simply symptoms of this one pivotal challenge. To cure the symptoms of war, hunger, poverty, financial slavery, police brutality, government corruption, the war on drugs, GMO foods, chemtrail deployments, gun confiscation, asset forfeiture, media collusion – or any other manifestation of treasonous violence inflicted on the public under color of law, we need only create ethical institutions.
Come to Libertopia to learn what some of the brightest minds in the freedom movement are doing to bring this about.

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http://www.commonsenserevisited.com
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/140407-2013-08-23-libertopia-historic-meeting-of-the-minds.htm
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Three Words The Cabal Hates The Most : "You Are Sovereign"

Video: SGT Report - Three Words The Cabal Hates The Most : "You Are Sovereign"
Posted By: Lion [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 18:28:47

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Published on Aug 22, 2013
Zeke Layman from PowerPolitics.com joins us to talk about YOUR power as a Sovereign human being with natural born INALIENABLE rights. Zeke shares his perspective on a variety of Constitutional issues, including REAL money. Zeke says, "Paper money fuels the statutory schemes or fake laws while gold and silver fuel constitution and common law."
Zeke's website:
http://powerpolitics.com/

For REAL News & Information:
http://sgtreport.com/
http://thelibertymill.com/

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YOU ARE THE SOVEREIGN
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Obama Bankrolled Attack on the Benghazi Consulate

Obama Bankrolled Attack on the Benghazi Consulate
Posted By: Lion [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 20:00:13
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The O conspires with the MB to gain the release of the Blind Sheik, and look like a hero to get re-elected....
Stevens was to be kidnapped, held for a 'ransom' of the release of the 'Blind Shiek', and O's role was to 'rescue' Stevens from those crazy terrorists by exchanging Stevens for the Sheik.
Then, O claims to be a hero for rescuing Stevens - and O also gains the release of the Sheik - which was the main intent all along.
All planned to occur just before an election.
Stupid men who lust for power.
Nothing is below them, because nothing is lower...
Lion
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Obama Bankrolled Attack on the Benghazi Consulate
http://youtu.be/GHLI-Hl575Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHLI-Hl575Q
Published on Aug 21, 2013
Video produced by http://www.westernjournalism.com
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: Getting??
: --------
: The momentum to remove the president is growing rapidly, as
: almost every day another lawmaker raises the possibility of
: impeaching President Obama.

: Now, it’s Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla, who said Wednesday the
: president is getting “perilously close” to qualifying for
: impeachment.

: Speaking at the Muskogee Civic Center in Oklahoma, the senator
: said, “What you have to do is you have to establish the
: criteria that would qualify for proceedings against the
: president, and that’s called impeachment.”

: “That’s not something you take lightly, and you have to use a
: historical precedent of what that means. I think there’s
: some intended violation of the law in this administration,
: but I also think there’s a ton of incompetence, of people
: who are making decisions.”

: A constituent then responded, “Even if there is incompetence,
: the IRS forces me to abide by the law.”

: Coburn said he agreed, and added, Those are serious things,
: but we’re in a serious time. I don’t have the legal
: background to know if that rises to high crimes and
: misdemeanor, but I think they’re getting perilously close.”

: The senator took pains to make clear that it was nothing
: personal against the president.

: “Barack Obama is personal friend of mine. He became my friend
: in the Senate but that does not mean I agree in any way
: with what he’s doing or how he’s doing it. And I quite
: frankly think he’s in a difficult position he’s put himself
: in, and if it continues, I think we’re going to have
: another constitutional crisis in our country in terms of
: the presidency,” the Oklahoman observed.

: Coburn is just the latest lawmaker to openly speculating about
: the possibility of impeaching President Obama.

: Visit WND’s online Impeachment Store to see all the products
: related to ousting Obama.

: On Monday, Rep. Kerry Bentivolio, R-Mich., said it would be a
: “dream come true” to impeach President Barack Obama.

: Bentivolio told the Birmingham Bloomfield Republican Club
: Meeting, “You know, if I could write that bill and submit
: it, it would be a dream come true.”

: He told constituents, “I feel your pain and I know. I stood 12
: feet away from that guy and listened to him, and I couldn’t
: stand being there. But because he is president I have to
: respect the office. That’s my job as a congressman. I
: respect the office.”

: Bentivolio said that experience with the president caused him
: to actually consult with attorneys about what it would take
: to remove Obama from office.

: “These are lawyers, Ph.D.s in history, and I said, ‘Tell me
: how I can impeach the president of the United States.’”

: But, as with other lawmakers who’ve discussed the issue
: recently, Bentivolio stopped short of saying it’s time to
: file articles of impeachment, while acknowledging some
: significant hurdles.

: “Until we have evidence, you’re going to become a laughing
: stock if you’ve submitted the bill to impeach the president
: because, No. 1, you’ve got to convince the press,”
: Bentivolio warned.

: “There are some people out there no matter what Obama does
: he’s still the greatest president they’ve ever had. That’s
: what you’re fighting,” the congressman concluded.

:
: http://www.wnd.com/2013/08/senator-obama-perilously-close-to-impeachment/



Team Involved in Tracking Benghazi Suspects Pulling Out, Sources Say

Team Involved in Tracking Benghazi Suspects Pulling Out, Sources Say
Posted By: pax [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 21:02:36
Another scandal from the phonies that does make a difference.
(3:00 vid)

http://youtu.be/vrkRpQT93Eo
By Adam Housley
Published August 23, 2013
FoxNews.com
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/23/team-involved-in-tracking-benghazi-suspects-pulling-out-sources-say/
Two weeks after the Obama administration announced charges against suspects in the Benghazi attack, a large portion of the U.S. team that hunted the suspects and trained Libyans to help capture or kill them is leaving Libya permanently.
Special operators in the region tell Fox News that while Benghazi targets have been identified for months, officials in Washington could "never pull the trigger." In fact, one source insists that much of the information on Benghazi suspects had been passed along to the White House after being vetted by the Department of Defense and the State Department -- and at least one recommendation for direct action on a Benghazi suspect was given to President Obama as recently as Aug. 7.
Meanwhile, months after video, photo and voice documentation on the Benghazi suspects was first presented to high-level military leaders, the State Department and ultimately the White House, prison breaks in the country have eroded security. U.S. special forces have now been relegated to a "villa," a stopover for the operators before they're shipped out of the country entirely.
"We put American special operations in harm's way to develop a picture of these suspects and to seek justice and instead of acting, we stalled. We just let it slip and pass us by and now it's going to be much more difficult," one source said, citing 1,200 prisoners escaping two weeks ago. "It's already blowing up. Daily assassinations, bi-weekly prison escapes, we waited way too long."
The latest development raises questions about when the attackers will be brought to justice in the murder of Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans last September.
The special operators are starting to get frustrated at the lack of action, and Fox News has been told by multiple sources that one special forces leader "literally yelled" at former Libyan Chief of Mission William Roebuck "and told him, 'so you're willing to let these guys get away with murder?'"
The outburst was "met with crickets," the sources said.
Asked about what actions have been taken on the suspects, the U.S. Department of Justice declined to comment. However, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the situation in Libya suggested there is always intelligence to be gained by simply watching and listening to the suspects.
In addition, Pentagon officials disputed what the operators in question are claiming, saying that group was not specifically tasked with finding the Libyan suspects responsible for the Benghazi attack. These officials said other forces out of Fort Bragg are tasked with that mission, and they are not leaving. Pentagon officials also say the trainers, which were authorized by Congress under part of the defense budget to facilitate training of Libyans for counterterrorism, were not there to track the Benghazi suspects. They insist congressional funding is very clear in its mission: for training locals in counterterrorism.
However, special operators in the region counter the claims and suggest the Pentagon and State Department are playing with words, saying those being pulled are in fact tasked with both training the Libyans and identifying Benghazi attack suspects. "The training is partly a cover and some of these guys ... provided the information on suspects directly to U.S. military commanders and the U.S. State Department last November and again in January. They are there and trained to find, fix and finish," one said.
Fox News reported earlier this year that American forces had identified suspects by the end of November 2012, and reported on their whereabouts to Roebuck last January, yet no action was taken. They returned again in January to identify and locate these same suspects after being requested to do so by military leaders. In the months since, the operators in the region have been sitting in de facto standby, despite the Justice Department charges being filed.
To make matters worse, the U.S. trainers have been sitting in their Libyan "villa" now for a number of days after a Libyan military leader kicked the Americans out of the camp where they had been standing-up a Libyan special forces team for nearly a year, backed by U.S. taxpayer dollars. The maneuver by the Libyan chief of defense has "left our guys high and dry," and this same chief has locked down Tripoli as well, Fox News is told. The sources say U.S. leaders have now let the Libyan government occupy the special forces camp -- and in turn undermine the effort to train a legitimate force capable of countering Al Qaeda, which was the initial assignment before the Sept. 11 attack in Benghazi.
The men tell Fox News their mission was to capture or kill the suspects in question, and they briefed the acting U.S. ambassador in Libya and the senior CIA representative in the country. The men were toith the one-year anniversary of the attack looming.
Meanwhile, some of the same suspects in the Benghazi attack are continuing to help the Muslim Brotherhoode or the White House.
Some of the individuals report seeing former AFRICOM commander General Carter Ham tell former Libya Chief of Mission Laurence Pope that he could easily submit a plan to kill or capture the suspects, but "politics and fallout kept us from acting. To do an operation we have to have (Chief of Mission) and state approval. We didn't get it. ... They sat on it."
Multiple sources in Libya tell Fox News that the politics in the lack of response to the Benghazi attacks involves the U.S. State Department position in Libya. "No career diplomat wants to be responsible for giving the green light or supporting an operation that if goes wrong, another Somalia, Blackhawk Down, turns into a political fragmentation grenade that puts any group, party, or element in the public scrutiny spotlight ... especially after the train wreck on September 11th."
Sources told Fox News, though, that the Obama administration will be under pressure to produce some result from its investigation with the one-year anniversary of the attack looming.
Meanwhile, some of the same suspects in the Benghazi attack are continuing to help the Muslim Brotherhood in eastern Libya and are directly aligned with the militant group Ansar al-Sharia, which has already begun operations to undermine the fledgling Libyan government.
The special operators tell Fox News that Libyan militia leader Ahmed Khattalah, among those charged by the DOJ, is a member of a prominent and influential group in the eastern part of Libya and directly tied to Ansar al-Sharia, the group believed to be behind the attack on Benghazi .
"It won't be long, they're already at war. We are just behind," said one operator after being asked about the intent of the Muslim Brotherhood to overtake the current Libyan government in Tripoli. "So the terrorism will continue to grow and the terrorists responsible for killing an ambassador are right now growing along with it."
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Today's Frugal Seniors--- (Risque)

HMN -- Today's Frugal Seniors--- (Risque)
Posted By: Watchman
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 17:43:16
 
An elderly couple, both well into their 70's, go to a sex therapist's office. The doctor asks, 'What can I do for you?' The man says,'Will you watch us have sexual intercourse?' The doctor raises both eyebrows, but he is so amazed that such an elderly couple is asking for sexual advice that he agrees. When the couple finishes, the doctor says, 'There's absolutely nothing wrong with the way you have intercourse.' He thanks them for coming, he wishes them good luck, he charges them $50 and he says good bye. The next week, the same couple returns and asks the sex therapist to watch again.
The sex therapist is a bit puzzled, but agrees. This happens several weeks in a row The couple makes an appointment, has intercourse with no problems, pays the doctor, then leaves. Finally, after 3 months of this routine, the doctor says, 'I'm sorry, but I have to ask. Just what are you trying to find out?' The man says, 'We're not trying to find out anything. She's married; so we can't go to her house. I'm married; and we can't go to my house. The Holiday Inn charges $98. The Hilton charges $139. We do it here for $50, and Medicare pays $43 of it, leaving my net cost of $7.

Ninth Circuit Rules in Firearms Freedom Act Case

Ninth Circuit Rules in Firearms Freedom Act Case
Posted By: Basil [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 23-Aug-2013 17:21:10

Let's hope the Supreme Court sees the light and does the right thing. It would make things simpler.
But ultimately, it is not up to the federal government to determine the limits of federal power, and that includes the Supreme Court. The states created the federal government, and it is the states that must, in the end, determine whether the federal government has exceeded its limits and whether it is acting within the limits of its founding charter. Whether the feds like it or not.
Basil
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 1:40 PM
Subject: Ninth Circuit Rules in Firearms Freedom Act Case

NEWS RELEASE
(August 23, 2013 - for immediate release)

Ninth Circuit Rules in Firearms Freedom Act Case
MISSOULA, MONT. - The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals released its opinion today in MSSA v. Holder, the lawsuit brought in federal court to validate the principles of the Montana Firearms Freedom Act (MFFA). The MFFA was enacted by the Montana Legislature and signed into law by then Governor Brian Schweitzer in 2009. The MFFA declares that any firearms made and retained in Montana are not subject to any federal regulation under the power given to Congress in the U.S. Constitution to “regulate commerce … among the states.” The MFFA uses firearms as a vehicle to challenge federal commerce clause power.
Plaintiffs in MSSA v. Holder are the Montana Shooting Sports Association (MSSA), the Second Amendment Foundation, and Gary Marbut, President of MSSA. To set up the legal challenge, Marbut determined to manufacture a youth-model, .22 caliber, bolt-action rifle called the “Montana Buckaroo.” The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms informed Marbut that any such unlicensed manufacture would be illegal under federal law.
Despite Marbut's BATF-prohibited plans to make the Montana Buckaroo, the federal District Court ruled that the plaintiffs lacked “standing” to bring the lawsuit, and dismissed the lawsuit. MSSA appealed this dismissal to the Ninth Circuit.
In its long-awaited ruling today, the Ninth Circuit reversed the federal District Court on the standing issue, saying that Marbut has standing to bring the challenge, but held that existing Supreme Court precedent was against plaintiffs on the merits of the lawsuit.
Marbut commented, “This was about as good of a ruling as we could have expected from the Ninth Circuit. We must get to the U.S. Supreme Court to accomplish our goal of overturning 70 years of flawed Supreme Court rulings on the interstate commerce clause. We knew that the Ninth Circuit couldn't help us with that. Only the Supreme Court can overturn Supreme Court precedent. However, now that the standing question is resolved in our favor, we have the green light to appeal to the Supreme Court.”
Marbut says the attorneys involved are already beginning to work on the appeal process.
Marbut continued, “The time is ripe in America for states to challenge federal power, from Obamacare to indefinite detention, to illegal spying on U.S. Citizens and media, to IRS abuses of power, and more. It was the states which created this federal government that has grown to become such a monster. It's time for the states to get their creature back on a leash. With MSSA v. Holder, we will offer the Supreme Court a chance to do just that.”
Since the MFFA was initially enacted in Montana in 2009, nine other states have enacted clones of the MFFA, and 20-some additional states have introduced MFFA-clone bills. The lawsuit to validate the MFFA principles, MSSA v. Holder, has attracted many intervenors and amicus curiae parties. These include the State of Montana, the attorneys general of eight other states, Montana legislators, legislators from other states, the Goldwater Institute, Gun Owners Foundation, the Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence, the CATO Institute, the Weapons Collectors Society of Montana, the Pacific Legal Foundation, and others.
More information about the Firearms Freedom Act movement and lawsuit is available at:
http://www.FirearmsFreedomAct.com

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Information: Gary Marbut, 406-549-1252
Gary Marbut, President
Montana Shooting Sports Association
http://www.mtssa.org
Author, Gun Laws of Montana
http://www.MTPublish.com


Dinar RV Intel - 8/23/13

8-23-2013  Intel Guru Jester   WEDNESDAY WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE A SHUT DOWN OF THE SYSTEM...WE BLEW THAT OFF BECAUSE WE JUST COULD NOT BELIEVE THEY WOULD DO IT...MY BAD.  THEN WHEN IT HAPPENED WE WERE ALL WONDERING WHAT THE HECK WAS GOING ON.  THERE WAS APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF BLOCK IN THE SYSTEM AND THEY HAD TO WORK THROUGH THAT...SO THERE IS YOUR GLITCH.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]


8-23-2013  Intel Guru Jester    SO...IF YOU ARE ON A DEADLINE...WHICH WE WERE ALSO AWARE THAT EVERYONE WAS ON HIGH ALERT AND EXPECTING THINGS TO HAPPEN LAST NIGHT.. AND YES I AM TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE YOU THINK I AM TALKING ABOUT...THEN THEY WERE TO DO IT... SYSTEM COMES BACK UP CHECKED OUT...AND NOW WE ARE REALLY READY TO ROLL...I AM TOLD THAT IS DONE NOW...WE ARE NOT SURE ABOUT THE TIMING ISSUES AT THIS POINT BUT ARE AWARE THAT THINGS ARE STILL ON HIGH ALERT FROM OUR SOURCES AT THIS TIME.  [post 2 of 2]

8-23-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Eagle1   our intel from the IMF and the UN is telling us that they want this thing finished no later than September 1. That's the end of next week. That doesn't mean they will wait until September 1 to implement the GCR. In fact, the evidence suggests that they will continue to work at this until every single programming parameter has been resolved. If they push this thing through over the weekend, you won't get to do much in the way of exchange before Tuesday.  [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]


8-23-2013  Newshound/Intel Guru Eagle1    Don't forget the Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday international banking rule. No major movements of funds take place on Monday or Friday. Friday is bank tabulation day for the week's business. Monday is audit day. New business is conducted on Tuesday through Thursday when it affects the global economy. The RV is not a local event: it is global!  [post 2 of 2]