Sunday, August 3, 2014

Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

Who Owns The Federal Reserve?

The Fed is privately owned. Its shareholders are private banks

Global Research, February 08, 2014
Web of Debt and Global Research 8 October 2008

“Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.”
– The Honorable Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1930s
The Federal Reserve (or Fed) has assumed sweeping new powers in the last year. In an unprecedented move in March 2008, the New York Fed advanced the funds for JPMorgan Chase Bank to buy investment bank Bear Stearns for pennies on the dollar. The deal was particularly controversial because Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan, sits on the board of the New York Fed and participated in the secret weekend negotiations.1 In September 2008, the Federal Reserve did something even more unprecedented, when it bought the world’s largest insurance company. The Fed announced on September 16 that it was giving an $85 billion loan to American International Group (AIG) for a nearly 80% stake in the mega-insurer. The Associated Press called it a “government takeover,” but this was no ordinary nationalization. Unlike the U.S. Treasury, which took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the week before, the Fed is not a government-owned agency. Also unprecedented was the way the deal was funded. The Associated Press reported:
“The Treasury Department, for the first time in its history, said it would begin selling bonds for the Federal Reserve in an effort to help the central bank deal with its unprecedented borrowing needs.”2
This is extraordinary. Why is the Treasury issuing U.S. government bonds (or debt) to fund the Fed, which is itself supposedly “the lender of last resort” created to fund the banks and the federal government? Yahoo Finance reported on September 17:
“The Treasury is setting up a temporary financing program at the Fed’s request. The program will auction Treasury bills to raise cash for the Fed’s use. The initiative aims to help the Fed manage its balance sheet following its efforts to enhance its liquidity facilities over the previous few quarters.”
Normally, the Fed swaps green pieces of paper called Federal Reserve Notes for pink pieces of paper called U.S. bonds (the federal government’s I.O.U.s), in order to provide Congress with the dollars it cannot raise through taxes. Now, it seems, the government is issuing bonds, not for its own use, but for the use of the Fed! Perhaps the plan is to swap them with the banks’ dodgy derivatives collateral directly, without actually putting them up for sale to outside buyers. According to Wikipedia (which translates Fedspeak into somewhat clearer terms than the Fed’s own website):
“The Term Securities Lending Facility is a 28-day facility that will offer Treasury general collateral to the Federal Reserve Bank of New York’s primary dealers in exchange for other program-eligible collateral. It is intended to promote liquidity in the financing markets for Treasury and other collateral and thus to foster the functioning of financial markets more generally. . . . The resource allows dealers to switch debt that is less liquid for U.S. government securities that are easily tradable.”
“To switch debt that is less liquid for U.S. government securities that are easily tradable” means that the government gets the banks’ toxic derivative debt, and the banks get the government’s triple-A securities. Unlike the risky derivative debt, federal securities are considered “risk-free” for purposes of determining capital requirements, allowing the banks to improve their capital position so they can make new loans. (See E. Brown, “Bailout Bedlam,” webofdebt.com/articles, October 2, 2008.)
In its latest power play, on October 3, 2008, the Fed acquired the ability to pay interest to its member banks on the reserves the banks maintain at the Fed. Reuters reported on October 3:
“The U.S. Federal Reserve gained a key tactical tool from the $700 billion financial rescue package signed into law on Friday that will help it channel funds into parched credit markets. Tucked into the 451-page bill is a provision that lets the Fed pay interest on the reserves banks are required to hold at the central bank.”3
If the Fed’s money comes ultimately from the taxpayers, that means we the taxpayers are paying interest to the banks on the banks’ own reserves – reserves maintained for their own private profit. These increasingly controversial encroachments on the public purse warrant a closer look at the central banking scheme itself. Who owns the Federal Reserve, who actually controls it, where does it get its money, and whose interests is it serving?
Not Private and Not for Profit?
The Fed’s website insists that it is not a private corporation, is not operated for profit, and is not funded by Congress. But is that true? The Federal Reserve was set up in 1913 as a “lender of last resort” to backstop bank runs, following a particularly bad bank panic in 1907. The Fed’s mandate was then and continues to be to keep the private banking system intact; and that means keeping intact the system’s most valuable asset, a monopoly on creating the national money supply. Except for coins, every dollar in circulation is now created privately as a debt to the Federal Reserve or the banking system it heads.4 The Fed’s website attempts to gloss over its role as chief defender and protector of this private banking club, but let’s take a closer look. The website states:
* “The twelve regional Federal Reserve Banks, which were established by Congress as the operating arms of the nation’s central banking system, are organized much like private corporations – possibly leading to some confusion about “ownership.” For example, the Reserve Banks issue shares of stock to member banks. However, owning Reserve Bank stock is quite different from owning stock in a private company. The Reserve Banks are not operated for profit, and ownership of a certain amount of stock is, by law, a condition of membership in the System. The stock may not be sold, traded, or pledged as security for a loan; dividends are, by law, 6 percent per year.”
* “[The Federal Reserve] is considered an independent central bank because its decisions do not have to be ratified by the President or anyone else in the executive or legislative branch of government, it does not receive funding appropriated by Congress, and the terms of the members of the Board of Governors span multiple presidential and congressional terms.”
* “The Federal Reserve’s income is derived primarily from the interest on U.S. government securities that it has acquired through open market operations. . . . After paying its expenses, the Federal Reserve turns the rest of its earnings over to the U.S. Treasury.”5
So let’s review:
1. The Fed is privately owned.
Its shareholders are private banks. In fact, 100% of its shareholders are private banks. None of its stock is owned by the government.
2. The fact that the Fed does not get “appropriations” from Congress basically means that it gets its money from Congress without congressional approval, by engaging in “open market operations.”
Here is how it works: When the government is short of funds, the Treasury issues bonds and delivers them to bond dealers, which auction them off. When the Fed wants to “expand the money supply” (create money), it steps in and buys bonds from these dealers with newly-issued dollars acquired by the Fed for the cost of writing them into an account on a computer screen. These maneuvers are called “open market operations” because the Fed buys the bonds on the “open market” from the bond dealers. The bonds then become the “reserves” that the banking establishment uses to back its loans. In another bit of sleight of hand known as “fractional reserve” lending, the same reserves are lent many times over, further expanding the money supply, generating interest for the banks with each loan. It was this money-creating process that prompted Wright Patman, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1960s, to call the Federal Reserve “a total money-making machine.” He wrote:
“When the Federal Reserve writes a check for a government bond it does exactly what any bank does, it creates money, it created money purely and simply by writing a check.”
3. The Fed generates profits for its shareholders.
The interest on bonds acquired with its newly-issued Federal Reserve Notes pays the Fed’s operating expenses plus a guaranteed 6% return to its banker shareholders. A mere 6% a year may not be considered a profit in the world of Wall Street high finance, but most businesses that manage to cover all their expenses and give their shareholders a guaranteed 6% return are considered “for profit” corporations.
In addition to this guaranteed 6%, the banks will now be getting interest from the taxpayers on their “reserves.” The basic reserve requirement set by the Federal Reserve is 10%. The website of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York explains that as money is redeposited and relent throughout the banking system, this 10% held in “reserve” can be fanned into ten times that sum in loans; that is, $10,000 in reserves becomes $100,000 in loans. Federal Reserve Statistical Release H.8 puts the total “loans and leases in bank credit” as of September 24, 2008 at $7,049 billion. Ten percent of that is $700 billion. That means we the taxpayers will be paying interest to the banks on at least $700 billion annually – this so that the banks can retain the reserves to accumulate interest on ten times that sum in loans.
The banks earn these returns from the taxpayers for the privilege of having the banks’ interests protected by an all-powerful independent private central bank, even when those interests may be opposed to the taxpayers’ — for example, when the banks use their special status as private money creators to fund speculative derivative schemes that threaten to collapse the U.S. economy. Among other special benefits, banks and other financial institutions (but not other corporations) can borrow at the low Fed funds rate of about 2%. They can then turn around and put this money into 30-year Treasury bonds at 4.5%, earning an immediate 2.5% from the taxpayers, just by virtue of their position as favored banks. A long list of banks (but not other corporations) is also now protected from the short selling that can crash the price of other stocks.
Time to Change the Statute?
According to the Fed’s website, the control Congress has over the Federal Reserve is limited to this:
“[T]he Federal Reserve is subject to oversight by Congress, which periodically reviews its activities and can alter its responsibilities by statute.”
As we know from watching the business news, “oversight” basically means that Congress gets to see the results when it’s over. The Fed periodically reports to Congress, but the Fed doesn’t ask; it tells. The only real leverage Congress has over the Fed is that it “can alter its responsibilities by statute.” It is time for Congress to exercise that leverage and make the Federal Reserve a truly federal agency, acting by and for the people through their elected representatives. If the Fed can demand AIG’s stock in return for an $85 billion loan to the mega-insurer, we can demand the Fed’s stock in return for the trillion-or-so dollars we’ll be advancing to bail out the private banking system from its follies.
If the Fed were actually a federal agency, the government could issue U.S. legal tender directly, avoiding an unnecessary interest-bearing debt to private middlemen who create the money out of thin air themselves. Among other benefits to the taxpayers. a truly “federal” Federal Reserve could lend the full faith and credit of the United States to state and local governments interest-free, cutting the cost of infrastructure in half, restoring the thriving local economies of earlier decades.
Ellen Brown, J.D., developed her research skills as an attorney practicing civil litigation in Los Angeles. In Web of Debt, her latest book, she turns those skills to an analysis of the Federal Reserve and “the money trust.” She shows how this private cartel has usurped the power to create money from the people themselves, and how we the people can get it back. Her eleven books include the bestselling Nature’s Pharmacy, co-authored with Dr. Lynne Walker, and Forbidden Medicine. Her websites are www.webofdebt.com  and www.ellenbrown.com .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

SpecialAgentGibbs and FlPatriot59 at I4U: "Who's in Charge" Part 1

SpecialAgentGibbs and FlPatriot59 at I4U: "Who's in Charge" Part 1

08/02/2014
[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Let's discuss the age-old question of "who's in charge" - Iraq, the UST, the IMF, or some ancient Chinese wiseman?"

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 let's see...... Iraq is like Abbot & Costello's "who's on first"

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Seriously.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The UST is still trying to find all the gold that used to be in Ft Knox....

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The IMF just got a wedgie from Putin....

[SpecialAgentGibbs] So, that leaves some 140 year old confucious type guy

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Oh Lordy. We're in trouble.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 would seem so
....
[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs So does that mean I should stop waiting and find a real job so I can save my family from certain ruin?

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 I did

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Oh darn.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 yeah, and working sux

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs That means I can't hang out in chat rooms all day pretending to have a virtual life with complete strangers.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Group hug for FLPatriot59

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Oh thanks. I feel better now.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] I'm still sticking to my theory that this will happen as soon as the new global monetary system is solidified

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Just be glad that BRICS isn't headed up by Portugal....

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Imagine THAT being the new system

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs And how many years did it take for the current global monetary system to reach the place it is today? Let's see, the Rothschilds started the whole thing in the 1700's.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 They were rocking in short order, just been enjoying their fruits for a couple hundred years

[FLPatriot59] 1743: Mayer Amschel Bauer, an Ashkenazi Jew, is born in Frankfurt, Germany, the son of Moses Amschel Bauer, a money lender and the proprietor of a counting house.

[FLPatriot59] 1815: The five Rothschild brothers work to supply gold to both Wellington's army (through Nathan in England) and Napoleon's army (through Jacob in France), and begin their policy of funding both sides in wars. The Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of risk free debt.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 opportunists

[FLPatriot59] 1849: Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would nonchalantly state, "If my sons did not want wars, there would be none."

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Illuminati……they're very real

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Yep

[FLPatriot59] 1865: In a statement to Congress, President Abraham Lincoln states, "I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in my rear is my greatest foe." Later that year, on April 14, President Lincoln is assassinated, less than two months before the end of the American Civil War.

FLPatriot59] 1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] What really toasts my buns is that all of this is public knowledge, millions are quite aware of all these goings on yet, we all just sit back and allow it.....WHY???

 [SpecialAgentGibbs] We continue to fund this BS

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs It's very scary. And disappointing.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Cut off the money to them and see how long they last

[SpecialAgentGibbs] This country is run by England….Right to it's core

[FLPatriot59] "The division of the United States into two federations of equal force was decided long before the civil war by the high financial power of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economical and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world.

The voice of the Rothschilds predominated. They foresaw the tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, indebted to the financiers, to the vigorous Republic, confident and self-providing. Therefore they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic."

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The largest group in this country, the blue collar slaves, don't give 2 squats as long as they can buy their case of Budweiser on Friday night, pay the rent on their mobile home, and keep the kids in cheerios & diapers

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Exactly!

[SpecialAgentGibbs] By now we all should know that the Fed Reserve is a constitutionally illegal private corporation, run by a board

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Neither Federal nor, A reserve...

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Right.

FLPatriot59] 1881: President James A. Garfield (The 20th President of the United States who lasted only 100 Days) states two weeks before he is assassinated, “Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”

FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs How successful do you think those attempting to take us back to a Constitutional Republic?

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 The cycle must first be broken financially IMHO

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs A daunting task indeed.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The Federal Reserve (or Fed) has assumed sweeping new powers in the last year. In an unprecedented move in March 2008, the New York Fed advanced the funds for JPMorgan Chase Bank to buy investment bank Bear Stearns for pennies on the dollar. The deal was particularly controversial because Jamie Dimon, CEO of JPMorgan, sits on the board of the New York Fed and participated in the secret weekend negotiations.

1 In September 2008, the Federal Reserve did something even more unprecedented, when it bought the world’s largest insurance company. The Fed announced on September 16 that it was giving an $85 billion loan to American International Group (AIG) for a nearly 80% stake in the mega-insurer.

The Associated Press called it a “government takeover,” but this was no ordinary nationalization. Unlike the U.S. Treasury, which took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the week before, the Fed is not a government-owned agency.

Also unprecedented was the way the deal was funded. The Associated Press reported:

Link to Part 2


SpecialAgentGibbs] This is extraordinary. Why is the Treasury issuing U.S. government bonds (or debt) to fund the Fed, which is itself supposedly “the lender of last resort” created to fund the banks and the federal government?

[FLPatriot59] 1907: Rothschild, Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., in a speech to the New York Chamber of Commerce, warns that, "Unless we have a Central Bank with adequate control of credit resources, this country is going to undergo the most severe and far reaching money panic in its history.

" Suddenly America finds itself in the middle of another typical run of the mill Rothschild engineered financial crisis, which ruins as usual ruins the lives of millions of innocent people throughout America and makes billions for the Rothschilds.

[FLPatriot59] This has been going on for a long time!
....
[SpecialAgentGibbs] Read the FULL story here:    http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

[SpecialAgentGibbs] So you now begin to understand just how much of an uphill battle it is to bring them down...

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs so are you saying that they have to be brought down entirely before we can have the GCR?

[SpecialAgentGibbs] IMHO, what we have witnessed in the short term past is the rest of the world basically saying "we can't really break them by any other means than to simply circumvent them, and let them die on the vine"

[drl] FLPatriot59 Unless it is total bs the tide is turning although I find it difficult to wrap my head around that concept!

[FLPatriot59] drl This is definitely not BS. It's very real.

[drl] FLPatriot59 I believe that the battle between good and evil is very real!

[FLPatriot59] drl Yes it is. But like SpecialAgentGibbs has said, most Americans are too complacent to care.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] IMHO their full intention is to globally isolate the BS USA system, and watch us just wither away.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Sadly, the US population may end up being collateral damage

[FLPatriot59] 1921: Under the orders of Jacob Schiff the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is founded by Bernard Baruch and Colonel Edward Mandell House. Schiff gave his orders prior to his death in 1920, as

he knew an organisation in America needed to be set up to select politicians to carry on the Rothschild conspiracy,and the formation of the CFR was actually agreed in a meeting on May 30, 1919 at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, France.

[FLPatriot59] The first job of the CFR was to gain control of the press. This task was given to John D. Rockefeller who set up a number of national news magazines such as Life, and Time. He financed Samuel Newhouse to buy up and establish a chain of newspapers all across the country, and Eugene Meyer also who would go on to buy up many publications such as the Washington Post, Newsweek, ant The Weekly Magazine.

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs So let's say they achieve those goals......can you explain what you think the implications are for us?

[FLPatriot59] 1944: In Bretton Woods, New Hampshire, two further Rothschild world banks are created. The International Monetary Fund (IMF), and the World Bank.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 As long as they controlled the media, all was fine for them... we were all just mushrooms in the dark

[SpecialAgentGibbs] BUT, then along came the internet

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Right

[SpecialAgentGibbs] So, you have a new campaign of propoganda being developed

[SpecialAgentGibbs] To infiltrate the web with just enough garbage to cause the masses to start doubting everything

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs And hopefully question everything.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Our senses simply cannot distinguish what is real, and what is illusion SO we begin to label it all as conspiracy

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The sheer fact that we begin to question everything, means the propoganda has won

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs How so? I would think just the opposite.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] It becomes just too much for the simple people to bear….So, those people just pretend none of it exists

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Drink another Bud, and go back to work on Monday morning

FLPatriot59] 1949: On October 1, Mao Tse Tsung declares the founding of the People's Republic Of China in Tiananmen Square, Beijing. He is funded by Rothschild created Communism in Russia and also the following Rothschild agents: Solomon Adler, a former United States Treasury official who was a Soviet Spy; Israel Epstein, the son of a Jewish Bolshevik imprisoned by the Tsar in Russia for trying to forment a revolution there; and Frank Coe, a leading official of the Rothschild owned IMF.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The key to overcoming the centuries old fallacy is to educate the masses… Get them to really sit down and listen to what is really going on

[FLPatriot59] 1963: On June 4th President John F. Kennedy (the 35th President of the United States 1961 – 1963) signs Executive Order 11110 which returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Rosthchilds owned Federal Reserve. Less than 6 months later on November 22nd , president Kennedy is assassinated by the Rothschilds for the same reason as they assassinated President Abraham Lincoln in 1865, he wanted to print American money for the American people, as oppose to for the benefit of a money grabbing war mongering foreign elite.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Did you know that the funds paid into the SS system end up being deposited into a bank in London, under the Queens control?  Just the same as the taxes paid into the Fed end up in European banks

[SpecialAgentGibbs] It's all one big lie peeps!

FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Which is why the GCR/RV is much bigger than us exchanging some foreign currency and buying bigger houses.

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs Please.....are you now saying that there has to be a total end to the Rothchilds world wide before we can have a GCR???????

SpecialAgentGibbs] sandytob I said that the rest of the world has simply decided to circumvent this BS, and let it die

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Pay attention to Putin & BRICS!

[SpecialAgentGibbs] The game is to turn their backs, and stop feeding it

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs well that is a great plan....will that destroy us or will we as a country start to rid ourselves of them also? They are not just here.....all thru Europe also.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] sandytob only time will tell

[
drl] SpecialAgentGibbs I thought that fed income tax paid interest to the fed!

[SpecialAgentGibbs] drl    
http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489

[FLPatriot59] 2006: The Edmond De Rothschild Banque, a subsidiary of Europe's Edmond De Rothschild family bank group in France, becomes the first foreign family bank that has obtained approval of the China Banking Regulatory Commission and entered China's financial market.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Evidence: look at what Hong KOng recently did with dumping the USD

[SpecialAgentGibbs] THIS is why we have the coveted TRN's being brought on line….Simply, the USD will very soon be worthless outside of the USA

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs FLPatriot59 Reading about this over the last 4 years has caused me to suffer great depression which in turn has impacted my physical health. I cannot deal with this just continuing to go on while many (like myself) don't have enough money for necessities.

[SpecialAgentGibbs] I know it all causes the brain to hurt

[FLPatriot59] sandytob I personally have had to disassociate myself from this and continually remind myself that my help come from the Lord.

[sananddan24] Sandytob I am praying this will be over soon!

[1166] FLPatriot59 Amen

SpecialAgentGibbs] Another reason why the middle class is a target, it's neither the upper echelon nor, the working class drone slave army…. The "cabal" has NO use for the middle class

[SpecialAgentGibbs] Matter of fact they view it as a cancer to their system

[SpecialAgentGibbs] FLPatriot59 my apologies for butting in, I tend to get overly passionate on this subject and know not when to shut up

[FLPatriot59] SpecialAgentGibbs Not at all! The conversation is very enlightening

[sandytob] SpecialAgentGibbs Even though this has been online for a long time, there are many that are not aware of it, so it's best that you did discuss it.

[
hunt5309] SpecialAgentGibbs FLPatriot59 ..thank you both... more people need to hear this,,,

[FLPatriot59] hunt5309 We all need to be reminded from time to time that this event for which we are waiting is much bigger than the day-to-day "intel" from Iraq or the latest guru-driveby.
[hunt5309] FLPatriot59 agree with you ,,we have known most of what you posted tonight for about 10 yrs

[FLPatriot59] hunt5309 However, many have not. A little review from time to time is a good thing.

Especially when no one is saying anything else.


Jester and Friends Chat Saturday Night

Jester and Friends Chat Saturday Night

08/02/2014
Jester’s Place:

[jbmeans] I have a number of folks I introduced to the Dinar that I believe are not in a group. Is anyone else a little concerned with what Jester mentioned a few nights ago about his findings of the possibility that only groups will be allowed to exchange?

[Jester] jbmeans WE GET FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF PLACES... AND WE KNOW THAT THE BAD GUYS ARE ALL FIGHTING THIS... THERE ARE SCENARIOS WHERE THE GROUPS ARE THE PIPELINE... WE KNOW THEY HAVE SAID THEY WILL REMOVE THE ZEROS... THERE IS A LOT THAT PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW FOR SURE... AND THAT INCLUDES ALL THE DINAR LAND GURUS... JUST HEDGING MY BETS TO TRY AND BE IN THE BEST PLACE POSSIBLE...

[Jester] THE ISSUE IS SIMPLE... DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT AFTER ALL THIS BS WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THAT ANYONE REALLY... I MEAN REALLY.. KNOWS FOR SURE? BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT? JUST SAYING... NOONE HAS BEEN RIGHT YET..
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[jbmeans] Jester I am totally with ya. If you hear of any other info on that subject, I am sure you will let us know.

[Jester] I ALREADY TOLD YOU I THOUGH IT WAS A GOOD THING... YOU GET THE INFO... THAT IS ALL THERE IS...

Jester] AND IF YOU HAVE FRIENDS AND FAMILY THEN IT IS UP TO YOU TO HELP THEM DECIDE WHAT THEY SHOULD DO...

[jbmeans] Jester 10-4

[jbmeans] Jester just waiting for the first domino to fall, thks. I was more concerned about friends of mine not in a group

[Jester] THESE DOMINOES ARE STARTING TO TICK ME OFF... THEY KEEP MOVING THEM AROUND... HAHAHAHAH

[Jester] THE US KEEPS TRYING TO MOVE THEM ONE WAY... THE REST OF THE WORLD MOVES THEM BACK... THE PART THAT REALLY WORRIES ME IS IF THE US RUNS OUT OF DOMINOES AND HAS NOT CONTROL OVER ANYTHING BUT US... THEN IF THE REST OF THE WORLD LEAVES US BEHIND I AM UNSURE OF THE OUTCOME...

[jbmeans] Jester in your vetting efforts, how many groups do you think are involved? I have heard ..... over 300

[Jester] jbmeans THAT IS PROBABLY THE NUMBER OF BROKERS THAT SAY THEY HAVE A DEAL THEY DO NOT HAVE... HAHAHAHAH

[jbmeans] Jester got ya

[jbmeans] Jester if the big guy really doesn't want us to have any of this (which I know he does not) and keeps moving the dominos, how good is that going to be for him, or is he set up anyway?

[Jester] jbmeans DON'T KNOW... THEY ARE PART OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ALL SET... AND THEY WILL NOT LIKE FOR PEOPLE TO GET AHEAD IN ANY WAY... THEY LIKE TO KEEP US IN SLAVERY...

[hunter35] I'm new here . . . what if it's the White Hats that are moving the dominoes in our favor

[Jester] hunter35 I DO NOT THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH CONTROL OF THE SITUATION YET... MORE LIKELY THEY ARE HELPING TRY TO MOVE THEM WHERE THEY BELONG..

[Jester] THE BAD GUYS ARE STILL KICKING AND SCREAMING... THE GOOD GUYS WILL NOT LIKE THE US TO BE CUT OUT OF THE RESET... BUT THEY ARE THE ONES HOLDING IT BACK RIGHT NOW AND I DO NOT THINK THAT WILL LAST FOREVER... HEY COULD HAVE ALREADY PLAYED BALL WITH THE WORLD AND THEN BRICS AND A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF THAT IS HAPPENING WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN NECESSARY...

[hunter35] Everytime O moves a chess piece, Putin has him in check . . .

[lulu] It seems like they are wanting full out war before they ever see the reset

[Betsy Ross] lulu just what I was thinking

[Truth] lulu looks that way.

[hunter35] Think the world is tired of wars and they finally see through the USA

[jbmeans] Wouldn't an all out war delay the reset even more, as the Cabal would be in hog heaven and continue to finance the war making their money?

[hunter35] How could the US be cut out of the reset. Would we have to go overseas to exchange?

[lulu] Perhaps money in the hands of good people is a threat to them

[Jester] HERE IS A WRITE UP THAT WAS PURPORTEDLY WRITTEN BY LEE WANTA... I HAVE NOT WAY TO VERIFY THAT AND SO I DON'T USUALLY POST THINGS LIKE THAT... BUT... MOST IF NOT ALL OF WHAT IS IN IT SEEMS TO BE VERIFIABLE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE HISTORY AND THAT... SOME OF THE POSTULATIONS OF WHAT IS GOING ON NOW SEEM PLAUSIBLE AS WELL...

THE ONLY FACT I THINK MAY BE IN ERROR IS THE NUMBER OF STATES READY TO JOIN THE BRICS... I AM LOOKING FOR ANSWERS.... IT TAKES TIME... BUT IT DOES MAKE FOR INTERESTING BACKGROUND AND POSTULATION OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE WORLD RIGHT NOW WITH REGARD TO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT...

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/07/30/the-coming-return-of-the-real-usdollar/

[Betsy Ross] Jester It is a great article!

[Jester] TAKE A LOOK AT THAT WHILE I GO GRAB SOMETHING TO EAT AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT MORE LATER IF YOU LIKE...

[Truth] Jester Liked the article wondering about the validity of it. Thanks.

[Jester] Truth I CLEARLY WROTE THAT I CANNOT VERIFY THAT... NOT THAT IT WAS WRITTEN BY WANT LEO WANTA ANYWAY... THE REST LOOKS ACCURATE AS I SAID...

[lulu] Lee Wanta is a staff writer at veterans today and is on the editorial board of directors

[hunter35] What astounds me is that so many brave, true patriots decided a long, long time ago to take the Evil Empire on without most of us knowing anything. I have been a part of this for over 20 years and every year, we get a little bit closer.

[hunter35] jbmeans Just learned years ago that certain people (military, et all) were working to make America a better place. Was told about Poof and on a weekly basis inhaled what he wrote. His writings "drew you in".

[jbmeans] hunter35 10-4 thx. I too came across info 30 years ago or more and didn't pay too much attention to it. Only in the last few have I been kicking myself for not digging in more then.

 [hunter35] jbmeans I agree . . . was told about Leo Wanta from the beginning but the story was hard to believe.

Hard to believe that someone to risk their life for so many others like he did.

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/jester-and-friends-chat-saturday-night

News, Rumors, and Opinions Saturday Night

News, Rumors, and Opinions Saturday Night

08/02/2014
Stage3Alpha:

INTEL CLUES & IMAGES AT 5:20 PM EST by Exogen

Guesses:


Vinman August 2, 2014 at 5:53pm

The risks have been evaluated and all the tasks checked/addressed.

Quadrillions in Chinese historic bonds delivered to underwriting and approved.

The elders are happy plan B's detour was successful.

The good guys were successful.

The bridge between markets was successful.

Tiers are on alert for emerging markets.

Clock is ticking......
john August 2, 2014 News from Reno exchanging still going on right now, and TRN'S are being used outside the USA to pay, nobody wants the fiat money ??????

john > August 2, 2014 Just passing on a phone call from Reno, friend works in the hanger where private jets are.

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TNT:

Soundoc: Banker said at 2:42 AM EST: "they keep teasing us and I am sick of it they need to let it go! "  Its going to be an interesting weekend, meeting today with top executives and two major important figures in this.

 soundoc says:We will know who and why they moved our cheese and when we can expect to see this.

 *Will Keep you all posted as info comes in. I will post results it if need be, I am not kidding.

*please don't shoot the messenger

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Caddyman18:    I believe the RV/GCR will be on August 8 - I hope it happens sooner

I believe August 8, 2014 (8/8/14) will be the date we are all looking for; following are the reasons I believe this. I hope I am incorrect, and the RV is announced in the next 5 minutes.

1. The funds to pay for the revalued currency are coming from 8 Chinese Dynasties. According to my two well connected associates (A General, and an Attorney) both the Chinese Elders and the US Government must agree that Iraq has a stable Government prior to approving and releasing the Global Currency Reset (GCR). The General and the Attorney are both "Whales" with a lot of connections to the Chinese who are running this GCR operation out of Reno, NV.


2. In China, it is customary to regard even numbers as being more auspicious than odd ones. So, gifts are given in even numbers for the celebration of all occasions. No. 8 has long been regarded as the luckiest number in Chinese culture. With pronunciation of 'Ba' in Chinese, no. 8 sounds similar to the word 'Fa', which means to make a fortune. It contains meanings of prosperity, success and high social status too, so all business men favor it very much.

 Moreover, in some areas of China, people prefer to pay much more money for a telephone number with 8 in it. They also favor residences on the eighth floor of buildings. In 1990s, a vehicle identification number with 8 was once auctioned off for 5 million Hong Kong dollars. This paragraph was from the Internet. 

3. On July 24th the Iraqi Parliament officially announced the new President of Iraq. The Parliament had 15 days to choose a new Prime Minister and agree on a new budget. Fifteen days from July 24 is August 8 (8/8)  

4. Friday is the end of the work week, and the Forex and Wall Street, and the commercial Bankers like to make any currency changes and close their books on a Friday. August 8, 2014 is on a Friday.

5. I confess I don't know anything about numerology, but  I think on July 20 Christine LeGarde of the IMF gave a speech declaring the numerology involved with the Global Currency Reset has a lot to do with the number 20. She said that the number 20 is very significant. Again, I don't know squat about numerology, but there are a number of things that can add up to 20.  The GCR could happen in 2014  and 1 + 4 = 5, There were 15 days between then and 8/8.  15 + 5 = 20.

6. According to the Interner, in numerology, the 8 balances the material and immaterial worlds. At its best, it is as spiritual as it is materialistic. The spiritual side of the 8 is practical, realistic and intelligent. It knows the difference between make-believe and genuine spiritual realizations.

On the material plane, it is focused on results, often in the form of money, yet does not care much about money for the sake of money. It is not greedy, it sees money as a tool, not an end-result. It is generous and willing to take risks. I believe the GCR will be on 8/8, which give a perfect balance between the spiritual and materialistic sides.  

7. A lot of the Gurus who give their opinions on the various sites seen to agree that the GCR will occur in late July or early August. August 8 is in early August, and it is on a Friday.

8. When the GCR occurs Iraq will be released from Cheaper 8.  Above are my 8 reasond (Some valid) why I think the day we are looking for is 8/8. Today is August 2 - there are 6 days left before August 8 (6 and 2 are 8). It also shows I didn't have a heck of a lot to do today. I am rooting for the RV to happen today, so please don't be too harsh on me.

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I4U:

[BigDog-OH] BRICS — End Of Western Dominance Of The Global Financial And Economic Order...8/2/2014  
http://www.mainstreamweekly.net/article5108.html

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KTFA:

moneytalks1 :I think they have already formed a committee to look at the 2014 budget. IMO, the budget is probably close to being done or is done. Watch what they do, not what they say. August IMO is going to be awesome.   Thanx.

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jaxjags » August 2nd, 2014, WOW!!!!  These folks are moving at light speed.....

MP: the National Alliance will name its candidate to head next government on Monday

02/08/2014 09:00:00  BAGHDAD / NINA / the MP, of the Ahrar bloc, of the Sadrist movement, Mithaq Al-Mozani said, "the National Alliance will name, on next Monday, its candidate for the next prime minister among its five candidates."

He told the National Iraqi News Agency / NINA / that "the consultations of forces of the National Alliance are continuing to reach an agreement on its candidate to head the next government, adding that it has been reached an agreement to name the current Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, as Vice-President of the Republic."

He added that "the most likely candidates to head the next government are Hussein al-Shahristani, Adel Abdul-Mehdi and Ibrahim al-Jaafari, and next Monday, one of them will be named."

He explained that "the next session of parliament on Tuesday will name the National Alliance as the largest bloc and the president will assign its candidate to head the next government."

It is mentioned that sources pointed out that the State of Law withdrew the nomination of its boss Prime Minister, Nuri al-Maliki to head the next government, which considered by some sources within the state of law, untrue./ End

http://www.ninanews.com/english/News_Details.asp?ar95_VQ=HFKFMG

Addicted - https://soundcloud.com/lee-d-falconer/addiction

Fact Checker:  This is interesting M as the VP of the Republic?!?! I wonder is this the surprise a few days after EID we were supposed to receive?!?!

My Observation Of Dinar Journey By Nadita

My Observation Of Dinar Journey  By Nadita

08/02/2014
Post Emailed To Dinar Recaps

My Observation of Dinar Journey - Don't Shoot Me -- By Nadita from Dinar Daily

This is my observation only of all info, news, rumors I have heard and read and my simple mind keeps spinning the possibilities. It seems like we are getting closer to the dim light, but how far we are still to reach the full light, only time will tell and hopefully soon :)

I might be wrong with my observation, so read it with light heart :)

1. Jabouri said the parliament meeting will convene on August 5th which is two days before the deadline to announce PM. I believe PM is already decided a few months ago. The new PM will be Chalibi.

The announcement can come earlier than August 5th, say Sunday – Tuesday. Why Sunday? because that is the first working day of the week for Iraq.
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  2. Just like what Jabouri did with the President announcement, it will be the same with PM. They have been working behind the scenes relentlessly to form the government.

All parliament members have been seated and ready to work. Iraq is restless and wants to be a player in the world. All eyes are on Iraq now. They will emerge to be a major player in the world economy in the next decade.

3. When Iraq emerges this time, it will be the modern democratic country in the Arab world which can also be the prototype of other Arab worlds. Things will be shifting and changing in the Middle East.

4. There won’t be any fireworks for rv announcement. It will just slip in, either simultaneously after the PM announcement or within two weeks. I would say any day is good for rv. It will not cause any run to the banks because banks don’t sell dinar.

Only dealers and again unless you have walk-in dealer and buy dinar, I don’t think the order can be filled, some would but not all. Dealer will know when to close the book :) When you buy on reserve, dealer assumes you won't be able to fulfill the order and if you do, they are in deep trouble and better start waving the wands.

5. I bought once on reserve, just to see how it plays :) I paid the initial payment to put order on reserve. I didn’t send the money following month, my order was closed and they sent me the amount of dinar I paid with my initial payment. Dealers are not stupid .

6. Big banking shift in July is the BRICS bank coming into play and they are not waiting anymore. I have said this before, I believe China is the whistle blower to start the train.

7. Iraq has not opened any budget since 2013 and 2014. I believe the rate is in the budget. They are reviewing the rate in the budget for approval, my guess the budget is already approved.

8. ISIL is a wrench thrown in the midst of rv preparation. It will be dealt soon. ISIL in the beginning was accepted by tribal leaders who are unhappy with the way Iraqi government was operating.

But as they show their true color and what they are about, more and more tribal leaders are backing off from supporting them. Once the PM is announced.. they will be dealt with and it will be done swiftly.

Politicians and tribal leaders are waking up with folgers in their hands. They agree to put their political aside and focus on ousting ISIL from their country.

9. Once Iraq is able to control the violence created by ISIL. The foreign investors will be flocking like geese in the lake :) There are many who are waiting for the green light to go including Turki with the button.

10. Argentina is in default, Portugal is in trouble. I think GCR could be easily rolling in August.

11. The oil tanker is not going to sail with $1M order without a green light and sitting 60 miles out of US territory waiting to offload or in fact, it has been offloaded into smaller ships to go to its destination? Payment for that oil is already received, my guess is in USD.

How many oil tankers have sailed away from Ceyhan port? If Israel has already gotten 4 shipments, one dock in Morocco and one in Texas now.. I am assuming a couple more are sailing away.

12. Even though there is still a squawk between GOI and Kurdistan over how the oil being sold. I believe it’s done negotiating too. HCL could be done. The tweaking of the budget could be for the oil split between GOI and KRG.

13. WTO is reviewing the documents for Iraq accession or in fact, it’s a matter of submitting the paperwork that was requested and it’s already completed now. I am assuming it’s done now.

14. Oh yeah.. the rate :) I don’t think it will be crazy rate as the gurus always say, nor there are group rate, contract rate, US rate, China rate, etc. The rate will be one rate and that is market rate. I believe it will be coming close to a dollar and will have enough margin to move up as the market dictates. It will move rapidly like IPO lol

15. If there is so called “China rate” paying 35 dollars, I will be willing to cut a deal with China to take all my dinar at 5 dollars but I want cash in the briefcase and not IOU paper for later date. I give my dinar, you give me ben and tons of it.

16. I liken dinar as winning a lottery jackpot. When you win the lottery, they will take 50% off your winning for taxes off the bet, and you gladly comply and if you were to take cash instead of annuity.

They cut it in half again, so it’s money that I never have. Same as dinar, small investment that pays big. I will gladly pay the taxes and run with the rest.

Invest wisely and with good investments, I will be fine :) To me, easy come, easy go as far as taxes concern :)

17. I will find a good accountant or tax attorney, estate attorney, shrewd financial planner to be in my team. I will live happily ever after in Nadita’s wonderland with a good view of ocean without obstruction lol ahhhh.... life is a beach :)

18. There are always loopholes to save money from paying high taxes. The bottom line of all this, is how much you are willing to give up - either all at once or in increments. If you choose the later one, find a good tax attorney and stay within the guidelines. US government is not dumb.

They know rv is coming, that's why FATCA is in effect as of July 1st. You can run but you can't hide, you will be seen no matter what. I don't want man in black showing at my door :) it's okay for a date but not for anything else lol

19. Dinar is not a scam because it's one country's currency, even though it's not traded internationally. You buy and you still can sell it even though you will lose $200-$250 per million. What is going to happen after the rv, will be the biggest scam of the century.

20. The ducks are in the row nicely and it’s about to march with the fat lady singing the ballad and the fireworks from afar :)

http://www.dinardaily.net/t35528-my-observation-of-dinar-journey-don-t-shoot-me#217934


Stevel & PD Members With News & Comments

Stevel & PD Members With News & Comments

08/02/2014
buck72801:   The Estimated Loss For Delay Budget in Iraq is $400 Million: Virtue

6 hours ago by Iraq123 News Comments Off

Iraqi Dinar 123 News:- The delay in budget has become a criminal negligence on the part of government of Iraq if we look at its negative impacts on the economy of Iraq.

The delay in budget has divided the country and also abundant Iraq alone in the region. Kurdistan regional government is looking to print its own currency due to lack of funds for daily use that means Kurdistan is planning its own separate home land.
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The currency will be in the market in the next few days. Report shows that Iraq is facing 400 million dollar loss a day. Iraq is not in a position to bear this kind of loss when it is already in the state of war with ISIS. The finance ministry of Iraq could not issue funds for ongoing projects in the country.

These projects are development nature and always require essential funds to meet day to day business requirements. Most of the development projects in Iraq have closed in the country and most of the foreign investors have stopped working on these projects due to lack of funds. Iraq needs to approve annual budget to avoid further financial losses.

Jcav:   Thats why they will not wait another two weeks to get the budget done like some articles and saying.
Stevel:   I absolutely agree with you 100%. They are flat out of money to operate until the budget and HCL are passed and opened. This is getting very exciting to watch.

 Two weeks? Are you kidding me?   Let's look at the numbers:

At 400M per day, from January 1st to present is now $85,200,000,000.00 (85.2 Billion),

add another 14 days $5,600,000,000.00 (5.6 Billion more),

if it goes another 30 days add $12,000,000,000.00 (12 Billion more),

 add 60 more days $24,000,000,000.00 (24 Billion more), etc.

 Not going to happen my friends.

 Here is the part that is very important: Most of the development projects in Iraq have closed in the country and most of the foreign investors have stopped working on these projects due to lack of funds. Iraq needs to approve annual budget to avoid further financial losses.

This cannot and will not continue.

 Need I say more? Now the Kurds want to print their own money. Do you think they will value it at .00086 to one USD? Probably not.

I think this is a huge article and very important as the speed this will get resolved and done. I love it, I love it, I love it. Did I tell you how I really feel? Now yet but will next week when this just may be over. Let it play out.

 Now let's do a what if. What if the Kurds do print their own money and it is much more valuable because of the oil. It just may be close to the other countries they do business with.

Now that would force the other currency (stuff we hold) to match it. Regardless, this is exciting.

 Have a safe weekend. I would love to do an update but I am in Vegas for another trade show. Live goes on until this is over. I love going to a trade show, but would sure love to go for another reason other than that. I will see what I can do after I talk to Ray today. All information we have is absolutely excellent. I will try and update and answer questions on this post.     Steve

 I will leave you with this video. You should watch it. This is how I feel about our investment period!

 Feeling great is relative. The intention of this video is to remind myself how wonderful an attitude of "feeling great" can be. When I say "I Feel Great", there is a window that opens to the possibility of feeling great. And today. . . I feel great!  Steve

Buck72801:   Very simply explained >>>> and so true

Need I say more? Now the Kurds want to print their own money. Do you think they will value it at .00086 to one USD?

Creed123:    Steve can you tell us what you think/believe will happen in the immediate aftermath with our investment when parliament passes the budget? Will a new rate be released simultaneously? Will there be a waiting period i.e, budget appearing in the law library then rate release? Thanks again! 

Stevel:   Personally from what we are reading and being told, it will be pretty much immediately. The CBI will just do their thing and you will not know in advance what it is or when, so you will just have to watch for it. Our contacts will call is the second it happens, so we will know and I will post on this site within minutes.

I already have a post ready. I just need to inset the rate or change the rate we think it will be.  Steve

Buck72801:   Amazing how fast they are moving now blows my mind, and the fact that one person was holding it up, of course them having a new prez with a back bone helps also, this is awsome , only been in this 4 years now and I've never been this on the edge of excitement

Jcav:    Couldn't have said it better myself.  The kurds hold all the cards right now.  The Dinar value will fall if they break away but the US and the world won't let that happen.  

Robinsnest:    Steve, First, thanks for your efforts with this site.  Second, I have a question.  Why is this years budget any different than years past?  It seems like every year we anticipate a rate change once the budget gets passed and every year it continues to elude us.  Just curious.  I sure hope this is the one.    Thanks again.

Stevel:   One of the biggest changes is that they will pass the HCL also. They need both to achieve this. Budget was passed last year but never opened and they used emergency funds. Many differences this time.  Hope that helps.

Cheeky:  Steve - first, thank you very much for all that you do.

Will any potential political delays affect the budget process or do you believe they are independent of one another?  Although things are clearing up politically, that process is still volatile and delays could occur.  Thanks!

Ms. Biz:  awesome sause bucky !!!! o.h.m.g.o.s.h!!!!!!............. :)  this article is all telling imo, explains a lot of facts, and resolves it to one solution that will fix things in Iraq, and ultimately in our lives too,

the plan coming to fruition is an amazing event to watch and I'm blessed to be a part of this journey with everyone here at PD,

the video shared by steveI was exactly where my mind lives and that's the ticket to everything in life no matter what and that's to feel good, to emerge your mind in good feeling thoughts no matter what,

 this is a thread that just made me realize that we truly are a blessed bunch of folk already, lets bring it the rest of the way home to the finish line together with class being the best we can be for one another......


VT Has “Pricked an Open Wound”

2014-08-02

VT Has “Pricked an Open Wound”

Vatic Note:   Well, good for Veterans Today.  I am glad we are not the only ones being regaled with trolls who spew weird stuff.   Hopefully, we have our stuff encrypted now so they can't get in and will stay strickly with the comments section, instead of messing with the actual blog itself.  

He said "Anyone can see what the press is doing".  And by golly, he is right. If they can't see, then the protocols were right, the "goyim are so stupid they will believe everything we tell them".  That is what they said and what they think.  I believe that we have surprised them somewhat though, but they will never admit that to anyone.   We are turning out to be not near as dumb as they thought.  It has caused them great consternation.  In fact, they are about 5  years behind in their agenda.

Its sites like Veterans today that are helping us to see the truth, to help expose it to our readers, and to the globe, in every country.  We are getting enormous hits from the Ukraine, Russia, and Netherlands.  The last one being a spy operation, but maybe not.  It could be their regular citizens who don't know what their leaders, royalty, etc are doing in their name. 

Just like our "foreign occupied" government is doing to the rest of the world in our name.   Read this and see what these sites go through to get this news to you. 

VT Has “Pricked an Open Wound”

http://www.vete
ranstoday.com/2014/07/29/vt-has-pricked-an-open-wound/
By Gordon Duff, Editor of Veterans Today
7/29/2014

When VT tied the Ukraine, ISIS and Gaza together as Israeli operations, we unleashed a flurry of “sleeper/zombie” bloggers, “truthers” and human garbage.

We are hoping they lead us to their handlers.  We know MH17 is an Israeli operation as much as Gaza.  We know ISIS and their outrages is staged by Israel.  We know that Israeli oligarchs are running the ethnic cleansing campaign in Ukraine.  (VN: we also know that Israel created Hamas and funds them and Hamas does their bidding.  How else have they stashed 5,000 rockets according to Israel, and not have Israel know all about them?  They can't.  In fact, the only way they could get supplied by anyone, is through Israel and everyone knows it.)

Anyone can see what the press is doing.  Now, “among us,” sub-human types are re-emerging, many long debunked and “de-trolled,” some only now being exposed, “activated” by handlers because VT has, with the help of Russian intelligence, Iran and our teams at the weapons labs, “burned” their operations.

I would have thought publishing vital portions along with “proofs” from the DOE 9/11 Report citing nuclear weapons, arms dealers, domestic traitors and “Israel” as responsible would have done it.  We are now seeing a virtual flood of FBI and police informants, some radio hosts, some bloggers, some simply sex criminals, fabricationists and, quite literally, the scum of the earth, coming forward.
At this point, the majority of those involved in “9/11 truth” childish gatekeeping are in this group.

Here is what is going on:  Several radio hosts, some with Rense and others, mostly “fear porn” freaks, con men, neocon and Zionist underlings are attacking VT, the publication, the radio networks and trying to sucker staffers.  Their pattern is simple, these mental midgets, all with easily detectable criminal records, bad credit, histories of child sex charges and “failed dreams” are trying to engage, derail or simply waste the time of their betters.

In some ways, this is a gods send.  Some are offering cash, huge amounts, for copies of the DOE 9/11 Report.  Others are warning of arrests, using their own “scare porn.”  One character, totally drugged out of his mind, quite literally, is trying to tell the world that I am the “master controller” of everything with my “underling, Dick Cheney, doing my bidding for me.  I can’t tell you how many times I have found myself laughing about this when emails from this nutcase are sent to me.

Here is what some of you should look out for:  See who sends you this material.  Ask them why they sent it?  They are either idiots, no real crime there, or, if you know they have been arrested for something, police informants.

We have exposed one S & M “leather goddess” busted for prostitution in Maryland.  We have another, a radio host indicted on mortgage fraud.  Others are tied to bank frauds, one for selling  a pound of marijuana to a Denver cop.  All are “anti-VT” trolls.

We find more each day.  They all have something in common; they have all been busted for something, all are cowards and freaks of one kind or another.  Some are associated with Alex Jones who I am NOT placing on this list.  The jury is still out on Jones though he surrounds himself with good and bad, some very very bad.

Look for “fear porn,” those who continually invent utter idiocy.  Look for lovers of Zionism, many of whom are avid White Supremacists or vocal haters of Israel who are recruited to act like such total asses that they are meant to dilute any story they touch.

Several “big name” folks have busted themselves, “big names” in their own eyes at least.


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