Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Obama-Monsanto Mass Genocide Plot Stuns Scientists

December 16, 2013
Obama-Monsanto Mass Genocide Plot Stuns Scientists
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A stunning new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Ministry of Natural Resources and Environment (MINPRIRODY) is warning that “new scientific evidence” has emerged seemingly to prove that the Obama regime has joined forces with the multinational agricultural biotechnology giant Monsanto to perpetrate what can only be described as the “greatest genocidal plot against human beings in all of history.”
The “new scientific evidence” referred to by MINPRIRODY in their report was provided to them this past week by Doctor-Scientist Irina Vladimirovna Ermakova of the National Association for Genetic Safety (NAGS) who is one of their researchers in the fields of genetics, physiology and biochemistry of plants, nutrition, allergology, and other branches of science and vice-president of this United Nations recognized Non Governmental Organization (NGO).
In the “approved for public release” portions of Dr. Ermakova’s stunning analysis of this plot, which is even now making world-wide headlines, this report continues, this highly respected international scientist calls for a 10-year moratorium on genetically modified organisms (GMOs) to thoroughly study their influence on human health, stressing that such examinations are vital and further stating,“It has been proved that not only in Russia, but also in many other countries in the world, GMO is dangerous.”
Much more ominous however, this MINPRIRODY report continues, is the “redacted for state security purposes” information contained in Dr. Ermakova’s analysis linking US President Barack Obama’s regime with Monsanto in a genocidal plot to “flood the world” with GMO crops and foods they fully know are “deadly and dangerous” and have to date killed upwards of 100 million human beings.
Of the millions of deaths linked to GMOs, this report says; include the global epidemics of obesity (now linked to 1 in 5 deaths) and diabetes (which since 2006 the World Health Organization (WHO) has labeled as an “epidemic out of control.” )
Most horrific of this “planned” GMO global genocide, Dr. Ermakova’s analysis asserts, is that it is also being perpetrated against babies and children by the Obama regime-Monsanto cabal through organophosphorous chemical exposure (a main component of GMO farming) that is causing a mass child IQ reduction the world over that rivals the impacts of major medical conditions.
In proving her assertion of the Obama regime-Monsanto cabal link, Dr. Ermakova’s analysis cites evidence proving that after his victory in the 2008 election, Obama filled key posts with Monsanto people, in federal agencies that wield tremendous force in food issues, the USDA and the FDA and who include:
At the USDA, as the director of the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, Roger Beachy, former director of the Monsanto Danforth Center.
As deputy commissioner of the FDA, the new food-safety-issues czar, the infamous Michael Taylor, former vice-president for public policy for Monsanto. Taylor had been instrumental in getting approval for Monsanto’s genetically engineered bovine growth hormone.
As commissioner of the USDA, Iowa governor, Tom Vilsack. Vilsack had set up a national group, the Governors’ Biotechnology Partnership, and had been given a Governor of the Year Award by the Biotechnology Industry Organization, whose members include Monsanto.
As the new Agriculture Trade Representative, who would push GMOs for export, Islam Siddiqui, a former Monsanto lobbyist.
As the new counsel for the USDA, Ramona Romero, who had been corporate counsel for another biotech giant, DuPont.
As the new head of the USAID, Rajiv Shah, who had previously worked in key positions for the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, a major funder of GMO agriculture research.
To how powerful these Monsanto genocidal supporters in the Obama regime have become, Dr. Ermakova proves, to this very date the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has never denied a single application for Monsanto’s genetically engineered crops, and this past year Obama signed what is called the 'Monsanto Protection Act' written by Monsanto-sponsored senator Roy Blunt (R-Missouri) into law over the objection of tens of millions of Americans.
And not just to the US either has Monsanto reached its GMO genocidal tentacles, Dr. Ermakova asserts, as in an unprecedented event reported earlier this month, the Journal of Food and Chemical Toxicology (Elsevier) retracted on one the most important long-term studies on the toxic effects of Monsanto GMOs it published a year ago and was conducted by one of France’s, indeed the worlds, top scientists Dr. Gilles-Éric Séralini.
As had in been done in the US under the Obama regime, Dr. Ermakova points out, Dr. Séralini’s GMO study in the EU was retracted by the Journal of Food and Chemical Toxicology (and which he has vowed to file suit over) after they created a new position titled  ‘Associate Editor for Biotechnology’ and the person they hired to fill it was Richard E. Goodman, a former Monsanto employee who in addition was with the Monsanto pro-GMO lobby organization, the International Life Sciences Institute (ILSI) which develops industry-friendly risk assessment methods for GM foods and chemical food contaminants and inserts them into government regulations.
And not just to the millions of human deaths are Obama and Monsanto being linked to either Dr. Ermakova states, but also to catastrophic environmental degradation due to super-weeds that have developed resistance to the glyphosate herbicide used with Monsanto’s engineered GMO crops and that have now reached epidemic proportions with a recent survey putting the area infested by these weeds at 61 million acres in the US alone, and increasing rapidly.
In, perhaps, one of Dr. Ermakova’s most stunning revelations, this MINPRIRODY report says, are that the Amish peoples in America, whose diet consists of eating organic, fresh, locally-grown produce and whose children are never allowed to be vaccinated, are being spared from this Obama regime-Monsanto genocide as their children never get autism and their adults suffer neither from obesity or diabetes.
To the American people being able to discover for themselves the truth of this genocide being perpetrated against them, and the entire world, it appears less likely by the day as even more evidence has come forth showing how the Obama regime is controlling information after the famous US journalist Barbara Walters was ordered earlier this month by her Obama regime corporate bosses not to make Edward Snowden her most fascinating person of the year.
December 16, 2013 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.
[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.  Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?.]

Obamacare Should Remind Us We Are Not 'Subjects

Obamacare Should Remind Us We Are Not 'Subjects,' We Are People
Laura Hollis is a professor at the University of Notre Dame

November 20, 2013|10:42 am


The unveiling of the dictatorial debacle that is Obamacare absolutely
flabbergasts me. It is stunning on so many levels, but the most shocking aspect of it for me is watching millions of free Americans stand idly by while this man, his minions in Congress and his cheerleaders in the press systematically dismantle our Constitution, steal our money, and crush our freedoms.

The President, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid (with no small help from Justice John Roberts) take away our health care, and we allow it. They take away our insurance, and we allow it. They take away our doctors, and we allow it.They charge us thousands of dollars more a year, and we allow it. They make legal products illegal, and we allow it. They cripple our businesses, and we allow it.They announce by fiat that we must ignore our most deeply held beliefs – and we allow it.

Where is your spine, America?

Yes, I know people are complaining. I read the news on the internet. I read blogs. I have a Twitter feed. So what? People in the Soviet Union complained. People in Cuba complain. People in China complain (quietly). Complaining isn't the same thing as doing anything about it. In fact, much of the complaining that we hear sounds like resignation: Wow. This sucks. Oh well, this is the way things are. Too bad.

Perhaps you need reminding of a few important facts. Here goes:

1. The President is not a king. Barack Obama does not behave like a President, an elected official, someone who realizes that he works for us. He behaves like a king, a dictator – someone who believes that his own pronouncements have the force of law, and who thinks he can dispense with the law's enforcement when he deigns to do so. And those of us who object? How dare we? Racists!

And while he moves steadily "forward" with his plans to "fundamentally transform" the greatest country in human history, he distracts people with cheap, meaningless trivialities, like "free birth control pills"! (In fact, let's face it: this administration's odd obsession with sex in general - Birth control! Abortion! Sterilization! Gay guys who play basketball! -- is just plain weird. Since when did the leader of the free world care so much about how people have sex, who they have it with, and what meds they use when they have it? Does he have nothing more important to concern himself with?)

2. It isn't just a failed software program; it is a failed philosophy. People are marveling thatHealthcare.gov was such a spectacular failure. Well, if one is only interested in it as a product launch, I've explained some of the reasons for that here. But the larger point is that it isn't a software failure, or even a product failure; it is a philosophy failure.

I have said this before: Obama is not a centrist; he is a central planner. And this – all of it: the disastrous computer program, the hundreds of millions of dollars wasted, the lies, the manipulation of public opinion, the theft of the public's money and property, and freedom (read insurance, and premiums, and doctors) -- IS what central planning looks like.

The central premise of central planning is that a handful of wunderkinds with your best interests at heart (yeah, right) know better than you what's good for you. The failure of such a premise and the misery it causes have been clear from the dawn of humanity. Kings and congressmen, dictators and Dear Leaders, potentates, princes and presidents can all fall prey to the same imperial impulses: "we know what is good the 'the people.'

And they are always wrong.

There is a reason that the only times communism has really been tried have been after wars, revolutions, or coups d'état. You have to have complete chaos for people to be willing to accept the garbage that centralized planning produces. Take the Soviet Union, for example. After two wars, famine, and the collapse of the Romanov dynasty, why wouldn't people wait in line for hours to buy size 10 shoes? Or settle for the gray matter that passed for meat in the grocery stores?
But communism's watered-down cousin, socialism, isn't much better. Ask the Venezuelans who cannot get toilet paper. Toilet paper. ¡Viva la Revolución!

Contrary to what so many who believe in a "living Constitution" say, the Founding Fathers absolutely understood this. That is why the Constitution was set up to limit government power. (Memo to the President: the drafters of the Constitution deliberately didn't say "what government had to do on your behalf.") They understood that that was the path to folly, fear, and famine.)

3. Obama is deceitful. Just as the collapse of the computer program should not surprise anyone, neither should we be shocked that the President lied about his healthcare plan. Have any of you been paying attention over the past few years? Obama has made no secret of his motivations or his methods. The philosophies which inspire him espouse deceit and other vicious tactics. (Don't take my word for it: read Saul Alinsky.) Obama infamously told reporter Richard Wolffe, "You know, I actually believe my own bullshit." He has refused to be forthcoming about his past (where are his academic records?). His own pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, told author Ed Klein, that Obama said to him, "You know what your problem is? You have to tell the truth."
Did Obama lie when he said dozens of times, "If you like you plan, you can keep it. Period!"? Of course he did. That's what he does.

4. The media is responsible. And had the media been doing their jobs, we would have known a lot of this much, much earlier.
The press is charged with the sacred responsibility of protecting the people from the excesses of government. Our press has been complicit, incompetent, or corrupt. Had they vetted this man in 2008, as they would have a Republican candidate, we would have known far more about him than we do, even now. Had they pressed for more details about Obamacare, Congress' feet would have been held to the fire. Had they done their jobs about Eric Holder, Fast and Furious, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, NSA spying - or any of the other myriad betrayals of the public trust that this administration has committed, Obama would likely have lost his 2012 reelection campaign. (A fact that even The Washington Post has tacitly acknowledged. Well done, fellas! Happy now?)
Instead, they turned a blind eye, even when they knew he was lying, abusing power, disregarding the limits of the Constitution. It was only when he began to spy on them, and when the lies were so blatant that the lowest of low-information voters could figure it out that they realized they had to report on it. (Even in the face of blatant, deliberate and repeated lies,The New York Times has the audacity to tell us that the President "misspoke.") They have betrayed us, abandoned us, and deceived us.

5. Ted Cruz was right. So was Sarah Palin. The computer program is a disaster. The insurance exchanges are a disaster. What's left? The healthcare system itself. And this, of necessity, will be a disaster, too.
Millions of people have lost their individual insurance plans. In 2015, millions more will lose their employer-provided coverage (a fact which the Obama administration also knew, and admitted elsewhere).
The exorbitant additional costs that Obamacare has foisted on unsuspecting Americans are all part of a plan of wealth confiscation and redistribution. That is bad enough. But it will not end there.
When the numbers of people into the system and the corresponding demand for care vastly exceed the cost projections (and they will, make no mistake), then the rationing will start. Not only choice at that point, but quality and care itself will go down the tubes. And then will come the decisions made by the Independent Payment Advisory Board about what care will be covered (read "paid for") and what will not.
That's just a death panel, put politely. In fact, progressives are already greasing the wheels for acceptance of that miserable reality as well. They're spreading the lie that it will be about the ability of the dying to refuse unwanted or unhelpful care. Don't fall for that one, either. It will be about the deaths that inevitably result from decisions made by people other than the patients, their families, and their physicians. (Perhaps it's helpful to think of their assurances this way: "If you like your end-of-life care, you can keep your end-of-life-care.")

6. We are not SUBJECTS. (or, Nice Try, the Tea Party Isn't Going Away). We have tolerated these incursions into our lives and livelihoods too long already. There is no end to the insatiable demand "progressives" have to remake us in their image. Today it is our insurance, our businesses, our doctors, our health care. Tomorrow some new crusade will be announced that enables them to take over other aspects of our formerly free lives.

I will say it again: WE ARE NOT SUBJECTS. Not only is the Tea Party right on the fiscal issues, but it appears that they are more relevant than ever. We fought a war once to prove we did not want to be the subjects of a king, and the Boston Tea Party was just a taste of the larger conflict to come. If some people missed that lesson in history class, we can give them a refresher.

The 2014 elections are a good place to start. Call your representative, your senator, your candidate and tell them: "We are not subjects. You work for us. And if the word "REPEAL" isn't front and center in your campaign, we won't vote for you. Period."

Laura Hollis is an attorney and teaches entrepreneurship and business law at the University of Notre Dame. She resides in Indiana with her husband and two children.



News, Rumors, and Opinions Wednesday Evening

News, Rumors, and Opinions Wednesday Evening

12/18/2013
TNT:

[daz] i am very encouraged by the way its rolling out...the chaos will play to our favor i believe. As control is forfeited..we gain more control of our own destiny.

[AZhombre] Wished those responsible (Treasury) had listened to DC Man when he "logically" explained how this would have kick-started the economy, especially BEfore Christmas. Now, we may just have some "rich" Scrooge's after it pops!

[thevazrpb] AZhombre as Tony explained on the call... the people in charge were lying when they said they want this done by chrismas... that along with people rushing the banks and computer issues were all delay tacticks and lies and that they are delaying this for their own beinfit. they are now trying to figure out a way of not allowing us to get the higher rates. In my opinion they are not just double dipping but tripple and possibly more

BLACKBIRD136 : Here it is quick DD (due diligence) on Zimbabwe...had sanctions also in 2002,
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Read More Link on Right


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"Zimbabwe is also a leader with huge reserves of coal, uranium, gas, lithium, gold, antimony, iron, steel, chrome. In terms of minerals, Zimbabwe is not only the richest country in Africa, but in the world."

 and 70% are in poverty there...the Zim has a high M2 at 424 Quadrillion, thus the 6 zero LOP, but is a candidate to be a sleeer currency that can be resource and mineral backed at .22

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MWKD: Ok guys I had to step away for a minute and I had to speak with some people and a whole bunch of other stuff... Including clear my head... Anyway I spoke with someone, a great friend, who is very knowledgeable of where we are at this point. I can understand why Tony said that he can't say somethings. BUT we are good, actually GREAT

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[kogarris] This is a story, much like many stories. We came into this venture as infants, as we grew to toddlers and we were told great stories, like Santa Claus and the wonderful things he brings to good boys and girls, and just like with Santa, some kids got more than others, but we all believed.

Then we became preteens suspicious that things were not all we were told. This is the same; we will receive something based on something. The key, be happy and secure in what you receive. Use it wisely and pay forward for those who did not receive.

Ask blessing on what you received and cherish the simple fact that today you entered into adulthood where now you will now become the Santa and you will decide who gets how much and when of that which you were blessed with.

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[econeal7] I'm grateful Tony shared the truth with us today though I must say I'm not completely surprised. I think my greatest disappointment is that this hadn't happened for us yet particularly since we are the ones who really need the $ in most cases.

My second disappointment comes from certain govt officials who were able to exchange for a high rate when the average American couldnt and now some of these same officials want to make sure we don't get the rate they received.

I live my country and so very proud of the men and women who fought for the freedoms we enjoy. But to me the only privileged people should be the vets and not the elected officials we put in office. But I guess that's politics and why I stay out of it!

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Dash RipRock:  RE: $3.85 - CAN YOU SAY "BETA TEST"??? Post:

This is my response I made earlier this morning to a similar post. I agree, it's all part of their plan.

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It's all part of 'their' plan. They created the bank rush hysteria on purpose. Believe it or not they want the rush to the banks and are fully depending on it. Did they send the buses and the kooky parking lot camping characters to the banks? Hmmmm.....

They have worked hard on the mental beatdown over this past year(s) all for this very reason. Keep everybody thinking the rate will be super high so dinar sales skyrocket and then drop the "use it or lose it, time's running out scenario on us at the supposed last second.

Look for yourself at all of the begging, groveling, "Dear Mr. UST, I'll be a good Dinarian, please just give me the 800 numbers" posts. BARF!!!!! They created the appearance of a short exchange window (with the lie about the 000's being worthless out of country on Jan. 1st.) only to further their game plan. It's playing right in to their hands and it's easy for them to see their plan is working to a tee.

They created an unfounded fear of the NDA's so that many will do all they can to avoid having to sign one at all costs and if that means taking a low, budget covering CBI street rate, then they'll take it and run.

They created the contract rate so that the elite will never have to experience a clawback. It's there if the intelligent know what to ask for (IQN anyone? Hmmm....). The 150K or so dinarians that stay up to date and monitor the dinar sites and boards, knowing about the IQN and that contract rate will be able to ask for that rate and get it. The other 4 million dinarians floating around out there that don't monitor the boards will be happy with their mid 3's and gratefully accept it. That way they cover both sides of their butt.

The one thing we know for certain is that they don't make mistakes and all of this is by plan. I don't for one second believe the IMF (with their 'connection' to the UST) went rogue, forcing the issue and pulled the trigger on their own. I think they are still working hand in hand with them but want it to appear as if they made it happen. It's all timing and part of their plan.

Keep in mind this is all my opinion but think about it. Looks to me like if this is indeed their plan (which I truly believe it is), it's coming together very nicely. For them anyway. I've been in this far too many years not to see this through until I know for certain that I'm doing my best for myself and my family. And if that means digging deeper and refusing to accept what I believe will be a first mouse lowball rate @ mid 3's, then so be it. I want the Factory!

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MIG:

[xyz] The US Embassy in Iraq congratulated the Iraqi Government on the occasion of launching the Social Security Network which ensures granting unemployed and people of special need financial assistances from the Government.   
http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46076

[xyz] breaking news: Senate passes and sends to President Obama a rare compromise budget plan that sets spending levels for current and next fiscal years.    http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/18/politics/senate-budget-deal/index.html

[xyz] We develop friendships with avatars and screen names and create identities for this people who only exist as words typed on a computer screen. It's pretty crazy when you start to look at it this way.
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/dr-pete-its-all-blind-faith.html

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Stage2Omega:

SHHHHHH!!!  WE NEED TO GIVE A FEW THE $32.00 RATE SO WE DO NOT HAVE TO PAY ALL THE DOUBLE, TRIPLE & QUADRUPLE DIPS BACK VIA CLAWBACK!!!!!!   C.L. MESSED UP OUR MONEY MACHINE BY RELEASING RATES TO THE WORLD.

WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO EXPERIENCE NEXT!!

A MASS EXODUS OF DINAR FROM THE UNITED STATES TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO EXCHANGE!!!!!

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/12/news-rumors-and-opinions-wednesday-evening.html

HERE IS WHAT IS GOING ON EXACTLY FROM FISHERMAN1

HERE IS WHAT IS GOING ON EXACTLY FROM FISHERMAN1
  



TONY HAS THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY TRUTHFULLY WILL NOT ANSWER OR AVOID BECAUSE HE IS DIRECT AND TO THE POINT. THEY ARE NOT DEALING WITH A CANDY ASS HERE , THEY ARE DEALING WITH A LEADER, THAT HAS STUDIED THEIR EACH AND EVERY MOVE ,AND HAS CREDIBLE PEOPLE EDUCATING HIM SEVERAL TIMES A DAY.IM SURE THAT THE PTB AND ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND THEIR FRIENDS AND SO ON GOT TO JUMP LINE BECAUSE OF WHO THEY KNOW AND WHOM THEY ARE. WE HAVE A VOICE HERE AS LONG AS WE STAND AS ONE . I AM ALSO A LEADER NOT A FOLLOWER AND TONY HAS THE SAME PRESENCE AS I WOULD HAVE WHEN SPEAKING MY MIND . HE TELLS THEM NOT WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR, BUT THE TRUTH FROM THE MASSES OF PEOPLE HE REPRESENTS. THEY GAVE  HIM SO MUCH BS TO TELL US THAT HE REFUSED TO INTENTIONALLY LIE TO US AND IT HAS CAME TO A HEAD.IM VERY SURE THAT THEY TOLD HIM LAST NIGHT AND TODAY,(TELL THEM THIS WAY, TELL THEM THAT WAY) AND HIS REPLY WAS HELL NO, NO MORE BS , WE WANT THE TRUTH OR GIVE US NOTHING.AFTER THEY LISTENED TO THE CALL TODAY AND REALIZED THEY DEFINITELY DO NOT HAVE A PUPPET, FEATHERS ARE RUFFLED AND HEADS ARE ROLLING,THIS GENIOUS OF A MAN MADE HIS POINT TODAY DURING THE CALL. BELIEVE OL FISH WHEN I SAY THIS, AND I SAID THIS LAST NIGHT.RIGHT BEFORE THE MONEY RI OR RV IN KUWAIT , THEY DRUG THIS OUT FOR A LONG TIME THIS SAME WAY. THE GREAT THING IS THAT WAS BEFORE THE INTERNET WAS 10% AS POPULAR AS IT IS NOW. THERE WAS NO BLOG TALK RADIO AND NO WAY THERE WAS ANYONE TO SPEAK UP AND CHALLENGE THE BS, AND THIS WAS JUST FOR ONE COUNTRY. THEY ARE RECEIVING EMAILS,FAXES, PHONE CALLS, EVERY TYPE OF COMMUNICATION AVAILABLE IN TODAYS WORLD FROM SOME PISSED OF COUNTRIES NOT ONE OR TWO BUT 200 OR SO. NOW THAT TONY HAS PUT HIS FOOT DOWN HERE, AND THEY CANT JACK US AROUND ANYMORE, THIS WILL HAPPEN AND IT WILL HAPPEN FAST. THIS LEADER OF OUR SAID TODAY READ MY LIPS, HE SCARED THESE PEOPLE AT UST I PROMISE YOU, THEY KNOW THAT THERE ARE 50K OR MORE LISTENERS TRYING TO FLY TO OTHER COUNTRIES, SEVERAL STILL CALLING THE BANKS,CALLING OTHER COUNTRIES, TRUE PANDAMONIUM THAT THEY CLAIMED THEY DID NOT WANT. WELL, THEY DID IT TO THEIR SELF. PHONES , FAXES,EMAILS , WENT CRAZY TO THE UST AFTER THE CALL TODAY , I AM SURE OF THAT, HAVE SEVERAL CONFIRMATIONS. GOOD FOR US, FLOORS 4 AND 5 OR 8 AND 10 , WHATEVER FLOOR IN THIS DEPARTMENT YOU ARE IN. IT IS TIME YOU CUT THRU THE BS, CL HAS STEPPED IN AND COULD CARE LESS ABOUT YOUR EXCUSES. NOW THAT SHE IS INVOLVED ,IM SURE SHE HAS TOLD YOU THAT EVERYONE INVOLVED HAS KNOWN FOR 3 YEARS THIS DAY WAS COMING, DEAL WITH IT.SMOKE AND MIRRORS ARE OVER UST, ITS TIME YOU DO YOUR JOB.NOW THAT THERE WAS NO NEWS TO SPEAK OF TODAY AS WHERE OR WHEN, BUCKLE UP IT IS COMING, AND IT IS COMING NOW.THEY ARE GETTING GRILLED BY THE MINUTE. A STEAK CANT COOK BUT SO LONG , AND ITS DONE. I SEE US HAVING THIS RELEASE AND EXCHANGING IN THE NEXT 30 HOURS OR LESS. HISTORY WILL REPEAT ITSELF.
THANKS TNT
FISHERMAN1

*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** / EXOGEN, Okie_Oil_Man, TNT Tony

The Rumor Mill News Reading Room 

*** Iraqi dinar, recently being said *** / EXOGEN, Okie_Oil_Man, TNT Tony
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Wednesday, 18-Dec-2013 17:49:10

Hi, Folks -
C.L. = Christine Lagarde
Lots of confusion, here....
Found at www.dinarguru.com :
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12-18-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN IT APPEARS THE ENTIRE PLAN HAS NOW CHANGED AND THERE MAY NOT BE 1-800 NUMBERS OR AN NDA TO SIGN DUE TO ISSUES WITH THE CONTRACT RATE. THE RATE SHOULD BE $3.86 ACROSS THE BOARD, AND DINARLAND SHOULD BE IN THE BANKS ON TOMORROW IF ALL GOES AS PLANNED.
12-18-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN PER FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION, WITH ALL THE OFFSITE EXCHANGE LOCATIONS SET UP, IN CONJUNCTION WITH BANKS, AS OF LAST NIGHT THE ENTIRE PLAN WAS SCRAPPED ON THE 1-800 NUMBERS DUE TO INTERNAL ISSUES WITH THE LEAD BANK. THERE IS A FINAL MEETING TAKING PLACE RIGHT NOW AS TO UTILIZATION OF NUMBERS TO AVOID CHAOS. ONE OF THE MAIN PROBLEMS HAS BEEN THE LEAD BANK IN THE PROCESS WANTING LARGER SPREADS ETC. IT IS 100% CONFIRMED C.L. & IMF RELEASED THE RATES WORLD WIDE.
12-18-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN PER LAST POST...THE RESULTS OF THE MEETING ARE THE 1-800 NUMBERS WILL BE USED AND SHOULD BE RELEASED AFTER BANKS CLOSE IN HAWAII TONIGHT.
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12-18-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man NOTHING NEW THIS MORNING TO REPORT THAT CAN BE PROVEN. JUST CONFLICTING INFORMATION. THE NEWS YESTERDAY WAS TO BE FURNISHED LAST NIGHT BUT HASN'T ARRIVED YET TODAY. I WILL REPORT (CONFIRMABLE) NEWS WHEN FURNISHED ME.
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12-18-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony Monday I told you the rates were live in several countries. The IMF forced the rates to go live. IMF did it for a reason. Nations needed it like Iraq. They are fully international, live rate, on cards and can use it. When I tell you we have a live rate in the central banks, it is live. They still have to push it out to the street level. It doesn't mean the rates can't be used because it's not down to street level. At 2 or 3am this morning, it should have gone live around the world but since the rate went live worldwide, our country has been calling individual countries and asking them, don't go live yet. We need more time. [post 1 of 3....stay tuned]
12-18-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony As of today, right now this moment, there is a live rate in Kuwait, pushing it down to the banks so anybody can cash out, the same in Jordan, Dubai, and Saudi Arabia. It is live in Israel, Turkey, England, Australia and Canada but they are holding the rate as requested by the US. We actually got confirmation this morning that the UST was holding it, that they are blatantly lying to other agencies. [post 2 of 3....stay tuned]
12-18-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony There is actually still a debate about the rate! Not only are they concerned about who was already paid, but also trying to have an agreement in place to not pay everyone $32. People are calling for investigation for abuse and power in DC for people that have already CE...also for everyone to get 32.00. Some will be paid different rates. Anyone walking off the street will get the pamphlet rate of $5.85 and some will get $32. The market is rate is 3.85. My hope is it will be between right now and Friday. [post 3 of 3]
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TONY BLAST: TRANSCRIBE FROM TNT FORUM, 18 DEC



i need everyone to listen really close
a lot of people will twist around what i say
it takes a while for it to get to ground floor from the top. those people need to wait a day or two until after the RV. 

this won’t be on TV or CNN or the news. I’m giving you guys info here.


I’m just gunna call it TRUTH and CONSEQUENCES, because people will get both. this is a grown up conversation. and
what happens on the million, billion, and trillion dollar level. not at your local banks

im gunna split this up into 2 halves. i wanna tell you guys what realign going on. and the NEW CASH OUT procedures. cuz you need to know whats going on. and you can ask specific questions about the real world and how it really works.

where do i start…here we go...

this has been drug out for months. and for ever you guys have been hearing its today, its gunna happen tomorrow, its tomorrow, its tomorrow. because thats what has been going on, on the global level!!


we didn’t want you guys to know about this or that little problem, cuz it would make the # letters look bad.

something happen last Thursday. and today its wednesday….so… we are gunna say enough is enough…and ill get more into that later. I’m just breaking it down. not everybody likes that. but they have to live with it. 

just like us i told you the rates were live in several countries…cuz they were live. in Monday they actually shocked our gov and country when they went live. it was live at they CBI. and they have acknowledge a live rate! i know the simple minded won’t understand this.


it still has to go through the GLOBAL system tho. it has to be pushed through the global system and to all the banks still. cuz it wasn’t pulled through them as planned.


this may cause some problems with some people…. so now! those banks let it go out. those CBI’s are just like our banks. its just like our banks. its being used just like ours was. they are choosing who their ELITES are, and getting them paid out now too!! you can get paid. but its happening. just cuz you can see it. doesn’t mean its not happening. u clearly see whats happening in this country. same thing in those countries!! and bunch people ran out. and they don’t see the rate….blah blah. so they don’t think its happening.

at 2 o ‘clock. 3 o’clock…this should have gone live!!! but it didn’t. 
the IMF is saying don’t take it live! they are calling around these other countries and asking them all to not take it live. they have their reasons. but there are countries that need this. like Iraq!!! and they still weren’t able to see they currency! but now they can. right now. today. cuz of what they did.
they IMF said enough is enough. u guys have had enough chances to get it right.

we have had a life rate in Kuwait, as of right now. live rate in Jordan! in Dubai! the rate is live there too. in UAE the rate is live. in Saudi Arabia! the rate is 3.35 int hose countries. they are doing it int heir system. i don’t know if its in every bank. now call your family and tell them to run around and go get their $$. we have had people cash out also live in Israel, Turkey, England,…but they responded to the USA’s request to hold it. like the USA asked for. so they are waiting

what other countries Pam?…. Chile?….there are other countries i don’t know….France, Belgium, Australia….Venezuala…but they agreed to hold the rate fir the USA
there is a # of countries where the rate is live tho!
ok so the IMF had to do it. 

the USA is holding it. 

so the big question is Why are they holding it? and How long will they hold it??

it is intact the UST holding it! and lying to directors in DC….cuz its a need to know. one agency against another…etc. like Iraq how dysfunctional its gov is..not knowing how dysfunctional our gov it. etc.


andyway! thats whats going on. no body is lying to you. everybody is doing their part. and to their knowledge they ARE done. they just didn’t know that somebody on the 5th floor hadn’t done their part. they weren’t lying.

its been the IMF against the UST…etc.
you can’t say its the IMf, and expect people to believe it. when they released it to all these countries?!?!??! who does that makes sense to?
its actually still a debate about the rate. i can tell u what the IMF wants…LOL. i hope to hear today front he other side,a bout the rate.

they already paid out all these people. and they have to fix that before it can go…etc.


WHO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO?!?!?!? you can pay out the ELITE and it works fine!? but now for the normal people it won’t work right???? LOL


they weren’t lying when they said that. they just didn’t tell the whole truth. they just told part truth. to buy a couple more days. but now we know thats not the problem. night before epeople got paid. last night people got paid.


elite people in the US that need to get paid out before us. when they haven’t been involved in following this at all. or getting this info out to people. and plus i know for a fact. that they are paying out people with less then 5 million dinar. 

if you could contact the right people right now you could get paid
I’ve been put on a list not to get paid yet tho. cuz I’m too visible! LOL

no good deed goes unpunished! LOL trust me

the reason and my understanding of it is…… hold on
ISRAEL!! over 37 million  has been cashed out as of right now…where was i. i got thrown off

they are still arguing about the rate. and here is why….

there is…..right now…some people are calling for and investigation in DC. a formal investigation for the people that have been paid out already. and now those people are trying to justify not paying everyone the 32.00. and they want to make sure there is something in place to not have to pay that back. with this FORMAL AUDIT. no i only heard one side of this so far. so thats kinda whats being held up. trying to get that finalized before this whole RV thing release. thats what I’m hearing from on side…even tho they say they don’t want it to be a stampede. they are causing that by shortening the period.
they are saying lets getting everyone through in 5-7 days. etc… versus 30 days. and the process is over with!. cuz there are certain levels of payout. and they don’t want people to think about it. and just go get it, and live with it. they want to limit the time. is what I’m getting

this could end up totally different. I’m been on call after call. meeting after meeting…your getting what it is right now. if you don’t like it go to another board….and good luck. LOL

ok so this didn’t go at 2-3 a.m. this morning like is was spozed to. the senate is controlled by the democrats. 

they aren’t going to vote against it. the house went first this time….then they are worried about random other etchings that have nothing to do with the RV,…then they announce they are doing away wight he QE….and the RV is released  and the market goes back up.

it could go through any minute, any second. when ever they come to a conclusion!! hold on…let me see………wait a min………...

the investigation going on. the abuse of power. according to the IMF they are fighting for us to get the 32 rate! they want this to be fare!they are trying to come up with some kind of solution or agreement.

they are mad like we are mad. they are frustrated like us too! what they are doing, is letting me know this is going PUBLIC RIGHT NOW. this won’t be in DC anymore. it going public. 
they asked for another 48 hours…to get this done.
the countries that are live. said nope! we have had enough. we are live!

now i hear everybody still wants it by Christmas….like i told everybody…xmas eve is xmas!!!  today would be good. yesterday would have been better.


i keep saying everyone just wants the truth!!!! its its on the 20th! then tell us!!! thats better then telling us tomorrow. tomorrow. tomorrow!!


this morning i said to somebody.. this is blatant! some people don tike that. they don’t like being called incompetent. they aren’t really. they just didn’t know what was going on above their heads. 


but now they do!!!thats just how they do business!!! 

we have gotten more of that with this presidency!!! then you ever have with OBAMA!! dysfunction! always a need to know! lying to their face!….its just been so public with this president. its even more in our face. becuz we are involved in it right now!!
ok lets go to the payout. some people will get 32…some will get 5…thats just the way it is. 
we have a contract rate of 5.85 that they want to push out to us. eventually they have to pay out the 32 for a period of time. they are paying out who they want to pay out…right now. thats the truth
let me just say this…this is another knuckle head #%$%$^% %^$%%^ %$^$%^%^$…who is sending my email out to people
its BMW something something… this guys is emailing out people telling them i am going to give out 800 numbers that i will get paid off of….thats not true. and they continue to lie…..ETC.
lots of VENTING…..about that ^^^

anyways!!..here it goes.

this is what one bank is telling its people.
people are going to get the 32 right now….32 for the admirals group in Reno…cuz of the agreement with China...
at the same token, cuz of all the non sense in Reno. and controversy…they came out and wet gunna let all the banks offer the 32...

well evidently China had some objections to that….so now all that has changed. rates. numbers….. everything

there will be another 800 # for that private admiral group!! they couldn’t even tell u how much u were gunna get…they just said it was higher...

those who already gave up their dinar…have to stick to that contracted rate. no buts..

private group. gets private rate.
anyone that goes into the bank. and get the 800 off the pamphlet….thats who will GET THE 5….something rate!
which I’m ok with that! cuz they were doing what we were!
and supposidly!…..this is only one bank..i can verify btw.
theres a 800 # we will give out. and anyone going through that in order. people will get the 32….until its slowly starts to drop. and the scale will shift slowly…. etc.

#$%^&$% LOL oh crap!

somebody has to make a decision now.
if CYA…..military means cover your back side.
its still join on. we are still having any RV
anytime before Friday Evening. before xmas…but when is that?!?!??!?
they are gunna give the banks time to do this. thats whats being discussed. to give us a reason to use the contract rate…and not the market rate…and i know some people will be confused by this…just ask on the board. or ask Pam or Ray! LOL hahahahhaaa
lets see…...
Tony then began to read questions…and answer them… briefly and short. and to the point. not much details. a lot of “i already explained that”…etc. repeating things form a few minutes ago.
A: 800 are still begin used
A: they are getting their oil credits through Wells Fargo bank! so thats where tis all going!!! don’t be concerned with this. its all good. thats the process.

A: Lots of pieces to this puzzle guys….lots…...


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and God bless

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