Friday, January 10, 2014

Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stuns Russia

January 11, 2014
Snowden Documents Proving “US-Alien-Hitler” Link Stuns Russia
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers

A stunning Federal Security Services (FSB) report on the nearly two million highly classified top-secret documentsobtained from the United States Department of Defense (DOD) run National Security Agency-Central Security Service (NSA/CSS) by the American ex-patriot Edward Snowden states that this information is providing“incontrovertible proof” that an “alien/extraterrestrial intelligence agenda” is driving US domestic and international policy, and has been doing so since at least 1945.
Edward Snowden is a computer specialist, a former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) employee, and former NSA/CSS contractor who disclosed these classified documents to several media outlets in late 2012 and was granted temporary asylum in Russia in 2013 after his designation by the Obama regime as the “most wanted man on earth.”
This FSB report further states that Snowden, in December, 2012, contacted the highly respected American columnist, blogger, and author Glenn Greenwald by an email headed with the subject line stating, “I and others have things you would be interested in.?.?.?.”
In Snowden’s own words, this report continues, he outlined to Greenwald the reason for his highly secretive group obtaining and releasing these documents by warning that that there “were actually two governments in the US: the one that was elected, and the other, secret regime, governing in the dark.”
As to who is running this “secret regime” Snowden and his cohorts were warning about, FSB experts in this report say, was confirmed this past weekend by former Canadian defense minister Paul Hellyer who was given access to all of Snowden’s documents by Russian intelligence services and stated they were, indeed, “accurate.”
Even though Defense Minister Hellyer’s exact statements to the FSB in regards to Snowden’s documents remain classified, shortly after his “extensive electronic interview” by the FSB he was allowed to appear on Russia Today’s program SophieCo this past fortnight [see video HERE] where he shockingly admitted that aliens have “been visiting our planet for thousands of years” and described several types of these extraterrestrials, including “Tall Whites” who are working with the US Air Force in Nevada.
Of the many explosive revelations in this FSB report, the one most concerning to Russian authorities are the Snowden’s documents “confirming” that the “Tall Whites” (further revealed by Defense Minister Hellyer as noted above) are the same extraterrestrial alien race behind the stunning rise of Nazi Germany during the 1930’s.
In just one example of the many outlined in this FSB report, it shows that with this “alien assistance,” at the end of the 1930’s, when Nazi Germany possessed just 57 submarines, over the four years of World War II it built 1,163 modern technologically advanced submarines at its dockyards and even put them into operation.
Snowden’s documents further confirm, this report says, the “Tall Whites” (Nordic) meetings in 1954 with US President Dwight D. Eisenhower where the “secret regime” currently ruling over America was established. 
Most disturbingly, this FSB report warns, is that the “Tall White” agenda being implemented by the “secret regime” ruling the United States calls for the creation of a global electronic surveillance system meant to hide all true information about their presence here on earth as they enter into what one of Snowden’s documents calls the “final phase” of their end plan for total assimilation and world rule.
Unbeknownst to the FSB, this report confirms, are those still in the US government backing Snowden, but whose presence Russian intelligence experts note is“unmistakable” and shows a cataclysmic power struggle is currently underway against this “secret regime” now headed by Obama by “forces unknown.”
Most to be feared by Russian policy makers and authorities, this report concludes, is if those opposing the “Tall White” “secret regime” ruled over by Obama have themselves aligned with another alien-extraterrestrial power themselves.
January 11, 2014 © EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. Freebase content licensed under CC-BY and GFDL.
[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth.  Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?”.]

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J.P. MORGAN CHASE PAY $2.6 BILLION FINE TO AVOID INVESTIGATION ON DECADES-LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH MADOFF PONZI SCHEME

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J.P. MORGAN CHASE PAY $2.6 BILLION FINE TO AVOID INVESTIGATION ON DECADES-LONG RELATIONSHIP WITH MADOFF PONZI SCHEME
Posted By: Lymerick [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 10-Jan-2014 17:17:56

5 hours ago | US
by Sonya Sandage
On Sunday evening, January 5th, at 10pm, a story was released in New York Times DealBook in their Legal/Regulatory section.
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/05/jpmorgan-chase-nears-a-2-billion-deal-in-a-case-tied-to-madoff/
It was quickly picked up by Agence France-Presse Monday morning. http://www.afp.com/en/node/1231422
J.P. Morgan is the bank that Mr. Madoff used during his decades long ponzi scheme. Wall Street Journal reported on Friday, December 6th, 2013 that J.P. Morgan was in mediation with the U.S. Attorney Office of Preet Bharara in Manhattan regarding their negligence over warnings about Mr. Madoff.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/12/07/us-usa-jpmorgan-madoff-idUSBRE9B601120131207
Apparently there were problems for over 15 years with what Federal prosecutors called the “703 account” at JP Morgan Chase & Co. Money was transferred back and forth for no reason. The account owner was recording double-digit returns on investments. JP Morgan itself was worried enough about possible fraud that they withdrew their own investments from the account owner. The account owner was Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities.
Madoff banked at JP Morgan through what court papers referred to as the “703 account.” In 2008, JP Morgan’s London desk circulated a memo describing JP Morgan’s inability to validate his trading activity or custody of assets, and his “odd choice” of a one-man accounting firm. In late October 2008, JP Morgan did file a Suspicious Activity Report with British officials. JP Morgan withdrew $300 Million of its own money from Madoff feeder funds.
U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara’s office wanted an answer as to why J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. did not file any SAR (Suspicious Activity Report) during their two-decade long business relationship. J.P. Morgan was negotiating a fine and deferred prosecution per the Dec. 6th report. Sunday night’s report came out with the fine amount: $2.6 Billion.
This fine will mean the bank avoids litigation. At the time of the collapse of the Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities ponzi scheme, the firm claimed it has $65 Billion in client assets under management, whereas it only had $300 Million. J.P. Morgan is the biggest bank in the US by assets.
J.P. Morgan did raise concerns with UK regulators more than a month before Mr. Madoff’s arrest in December 2008. In a document filed with Britain’s Serious Organized Crime Agency, JP Morgan raised several concerns about Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, such as returns that appeared “too good to be true.” As to why nothing else was reported during their two-decade business relationship, that is what U.S. Attorney Bharara is investigating. The FBI is also investigating the bank for any larger patterns of failures in controls. JP Morgan has said it did not know about the fraud. SAR (Suspicious Activity Reports) are required by law from banks when they detect suspicious transactions, or signs of violation of federal law.
“Despite all these alarm bells, JP Morgan never closed, nor seriously questioned Madoff’s Ponzi-enabling 703 account,” U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said. “On the other hand, when it came to its own money, JP Morgan knew to connect the dots and take action to protect itself against risk.”
The Wall Street Journal is reporting the bulk of the $2.6 Billion payout is going to Madoff victims. Reports are conflicting, and ABC News reports $1.7 Billion will settle criminal charges for JP Morgan turning a blind eye to the Madoff fraud; $543 Million will settle civil claims by victims; $350 Million will go towards a civil penalty for what the Treasury Dept. called “critical and widespread deficiencies” in its AML (Anti-Money Laundering) programs.
The bank failed to carry out its legal obligations to guard against money laundering while Madoff “built his massive house of cards,” George Venizelos, head of FBI’s New York office, said at a news conference.
The Madoff probe is just part of a series of legal troubles for the megabank, which has agreed in the past months to pay nearly $20 Billion to settle various lawsuits and probes.
The bank reports that their employees acted in good faith on the relationship with Madoff Securities. The authorities involved have declined to comment on the JP Morgan fine. In 2009, Mr. Madoff was ordered to serve 150 years in prison. The appointed liquidator of Madoff’s business, Irving Picard, originally began litigation against JP Morgan in the amount of $20 Billion, but a Federal judge and then an Appeals court rejected Picard’s action, on the argument that only the cheated investors can launch litigation themselves. The procedural issue is now before the Supreme Court.
JP Morgan was also recently under scrutiny for its practice in China of hiring children of the ruling elite to gain entrance in to China’s banking market.
Prosecutors called the $2.6 Billion fine the largest forfeiture ever by a U.S. bank and the largest DoJ penalty for a Bank Secrecy Act violation.
Sonya Sandage is a financial industry professional, and has worked for the nation's largest banks and investment wirehouses for 12 years as Private Wealth Manager. Originally from Florida, and a graduate of UF, she now resides in Washington, DC. Her goal is to get more Americans interested and engaged in their nation's governance.
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THE KEENAN TEAM REPORTS: THE FED FRAUD | The European-Controlled Creature That’s Bled Us for 100 Years

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THE KEENAN TEAM REPORTS: THE FED FRAUD | The European-Controlled Creature That’s Bled Us for 100 Years
Posted By: Lymerick [Send E-Mail]
Date: Friday, 10-Jan-2014 17:04:53

I'm certain many of you have read parts of the info in this excellent/long report, in works by other authors - The Creature From Jeckyl Island is only one that comes to mind. This is a valuable reference to the magnitude of the fraud that has been perpetrated against We the People, and it brings in the European connection to the crime.
Lymerick
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THE KEEENAN TEAM REPORTS: THE FED FRAUD | The European-Controlled Creature That’s Bled Us for 100 Years
Posted: 09 Jan 2014 05:00 PM PST
By THE KEENAN TEAM
January 9, 2014
Knowledge is indeed power. Neil Keenan and his team bring the truth to the people who have long been denied their right to know how our government has allowed the Federal Reserve Bank (the FED), a European-controlled private corporation, to ransack this country for the past 100 years in the biggest fraud this world has ever seen. Rob us blind for 100 years, shame on them; rob us blind for the next 100 years, and shame on us for remaining blissfully ignorant and allowing this monstrosity to ruin our country.
In 1932 the brilliant, courageous, patriotic Chairman of the Banking and Currency Committee, Congressman Louis T. McFadden, was American’s first, most informed, and most eloquent anti-FED champion. His crusade, from the floor well of the U.S. House of Representatives, outlined below, is particularly “sacred” because McFadden paid for his brave efforts to expose this FED fraud with his life: he was assassinated.
As never before exposed to the world at large, these excerpts from McFadden’s audacious speeches from the United States House of Representative floor well, recited from the U.S. Congressional Record of 1934, clearly detail how the FED has masterminded the death of what our founding fathers envisioned for America. With the passage of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913, McFadden reveals how our government officially ceased being by-the-people and for-the-people and became wholly under the control of the Federal Reserve Board and their foreign European overlords.
Continue Reading at ........https://jhaines6.wordpress.com/2014/01/09/the-fed-fraud-the-european-controlled-creature-thats-bled-us-100-years/
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TNT - Friday Morning 1/10/14

GOOD MORNING TNT 
TODAY IS FRIDAY JAN. 10

MUCH MUCH LONGER THAN WE EVER THOUGHT WE'D BE HERE
GETTING WHERE WE THINK WE ARE AT
AND AN EXPLANATION FOR WED. CALL
UNUSUAL FOR ME AND EVERYONE INVOLVED
BUT IMPORTANT THAT YOU KNOW

I ALWAYS TELL YOU EVERYTHING AND THE TRUTH
AS FAR AS I CAN GO
AND AS I KNOW IT

AND WHAT MAKES SENSE TO ME FROM ALL AVENUES THAT I HEAR IT FROM
AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO THAT TOO
WED. CALL, WAS - WEIRD THE WAY IT WAS DONE
AND IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CALL
BUT YOU DON'T KNOW
I'VE BEEN ON THE PH SINCE
MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY
AND WE'LL SEE HOW THAT CALL GOES TODAY
ITS REAL
AND IF YOU THOUGHT IT WASN'T
YOU SHOULD NOW IT IS
THE GREATEST OPPORTUNITY THAT WE SEE IN OUR LIFETIME
ALSO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND
WE HAD 80K PPL LIVE ON THAT CALL
THE HIGHEST WE HAD ON ONE SINGLE CALL
AND THATS OUR REACH
AND EACH ONE TELLS 10 PPL
AND OUT OF THE 80K
WE HAVE 57 COUNTRIES SIGNED UP ON OUR FORUM THAT WE KNOW OF
WE KNOW THAT 10 AGENCIES ARE LISTENING TO THIS CALL
RIGHT NOW
OF OUR OWN
NOT SURE HOW MANY OF SOMEONE ELSE'S 
GOT CONFIRMS THAT IS GOING ON
AND IT CAME MORE TO LIGHT - AFTER WEDS CALL
TRYING TO GET YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE LEVEL ITS AT THIS MOMENT
SOME THINGS YOU CAN BE TOLD
SOME YOU CANT
HAVE FAITH - SOUNDS BAD, BUT HAVE FAITH IN YOUR COUNTRY AND THE GOV. AND FAITH IN ME THAT I'M DOING ALL THAT I CAN
ANYTHING THAT I CAN TELL YOU - KNOW THAT I WOULD TELL YOU
AND HELP YOU OUT THE BEST I CAN
EVEN THRU THAT, I'M DOING THE BEST I CAN DO, TO TRY TO BE HELPFUL EVEN AFTERWARDS
I MIGHT HAVE AN HOUR WINDOW, AND WILL TRY TO GET MORE THAN THAT, TO HELP YOU ALONG
TRYING TO TELL YOU STUFF W/OUT TELLING YOU
WE'RE HERE AND CERTAIN LINES WE CAN'T CROSS
EVEN THOUGH I HAVE IT
STILL LETTING YOU KNOW THINGS ARE GOOD AND THIS IS THE TIME FRAME
BUT REALIZE THINGS ARE GOING ON THAT ARE BIGGER THAN US
AND ARE AFFECTING WHERE WE ARE AT
AND NOT GOING TO SAY THE BANKS AREN'T READY
THEY ARE
NOT SAYING THE NUMBERS AREN'T ON THE BOARDS
THEY ARE
NOT SAYING THERE IS NO WINDOW
I DO
BUT WE WON'T DISCUS THEM TODAY
BUT LETTING YOU KNOW WE ARE READY READY READY
JUST DON'T KNOW THE MOMENT
THINGS PROGRESSED TO A GOOD POSITION
THINGS ARE PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT US FROM US
EVEN TO PROTECT THEM FROM US
AND IT WORKS TO OUR BENEFIT
SO I DONT' LOOK AT IT LIKE A BAD THING
AND WE'LL TRY TO EXPLAIN IT
TRY TO GET TO WED. CALL
SCARED A LOT OF PPL
AND A LOT WERE WORRIED 
IT WAS THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED ON MANY LEVELS
I WAS SHOCKED
DID I DO GOOD DC?
DC - GREAT
T- PPL MONITORING WHAT I'M SAYING NOW
T- MY OWN GUYS
T- ITS KIND OF TOUCHY, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW IT BEFORE, YOU KNOW IT NOW, YOU'LL GET THE TRUTH HERE AND THE KNOWLEDGE HERE, SO THATS WHAT YOU CAN TAKE FROM IT, EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, CONCERNING US, IS DONE, AND US WALKING TO THE BANK, IS DONE, WE JUST HAVEN'T GOT THE GO, WE HAVE OTHER ISSUES, SO DC WHATS GOING ON?

DC- GM EVERYONE, MY 2CENTS, IS THAT WED. CALL WAS AN ODD THING, WE THOUGHT WE WERE VAGUE AS TOLD, AND THEN GOT CALLS TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT, AND I VIEWED IT IN A POSITIVE WAY, WHY HAVE TROUBLE IF THINGS WEREN'T SERIOUS OR CLOSE, AND REC'D CALLS FROM MANY DIFF. AGENCIES, DURING AND AFTER, ALL WERE NERVOUS, AND THOUGHT THINGS WERE WELL, AND CAN SPEAK FOR MYSELF AND TONY - ABSOLUTELY WANT TO PLAY WITH EVERYONE ELSE AND DO THE RIGHT THING BY BRINGING INFO AND OUR EXPECTATIONS OF THE NEAR FUTURE

ARE THE BANKS READY - YES, CALL CENTERS, YES, RATES GOOD, YES, ARE THE POLITICIANS GEARING UP AND SAYING GO GO GO, YES
ARE THE ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN READY, YES
IRAQ READY, YES
DELAYS - YES, BUT CAN'T SAY TOO MUCH  - ITS A FLUID OPERATION AND THEY WANT IT DONE NOW, AND THE WORLD IS READY TO GET IT DONE AND I BELIEVE WE ARE CLOSE
THERE WILL ALWAYS BE ISSUES THAT BENEFIT THEM - FINALLY WHEN THEY GET PAST IT AND GET IT DONE
WED. CALL WAS CONFIRMATION THAT THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS HERE AT THE END
AND THEY ARE HIGHLY NERVOUS TO GET IT DONE

T- HERE IS THE ISSUE AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET AROUND IT, THEY AREN'T AWARE OF THE MEETINGS IN THE LAST 48 HOURS, OR THE ISSUE ITSELF
DC- ITS OK TO SAY IT
T- ITS OK?
DC- WANT ME TO?
T- YEAH
DC- THE INTERRUPTIONS WERE CAUSED BY CONCERNED PPL, AND CAUSED PROBLEMS, FRIENDS IN DIFF AGENCIES ACROSS THE WORLD, SAID FOLKS, CALM DOWN, DON'T JEOPARDIZE, OF COURSE, WE WON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID
THE POT HOLE WASN'T DEFINED
IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO KNOW WE WERE TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
WE DIDN'T CAUSE ISSUES
AND WE ARE HERE TO HELP AND DO WHAT WE CAN TO BEST EDUCATE

T- EVEN THOUGH WE DIDN'T GO OVER THE MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW THATS WHY WE GET THE INFO, AND GIVE IT, YOU ARE NOT GETTING IT ANYWHERE ELSE AND THATS WHY THEY GIVE IT TO US, BUT A METHOD TO THEIR MADNESS
T- A LOT OF SITES, SAID ITS NOT POSSIBLE, WEEKS AHEAD OF PPL, DAYS OR HOURS, AND OTHER THE OTHER SITE, SAID WE WEREN'T TALKING TO THE AGENCIES OR GET THIS INFO, AND THEY DONT' WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY ARE… BUT THIS IS HOW THEY TALK TO 5 M PPL - THAT'S HOW THE GOV. WORKS ON A NEED TO KNOW BASIS
T- SOMETIMES I GIVE INFO THAT THEY AREN'T READY FOR YOU TO HAVE, BUT EVENTUALLY YOU WILL - JUST NOT AT THAT MOMENT - THEY ARE LEARNING FROM US - AND EVERY CALL - EVERY BOARD - AND THEY ADAPT AND AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE TO ADAPT TOO, I MAY HAVE AN HOUR OR 2, AFTER IT HAPPENS - IE. THIS IS WHAT I WOULD DO AND GIVE THE BEST ADVICE THAT I CAN GIVE AND IT HASN'T CHANGED, STILL DOING ALL THAT I CAN

T- WE CAN BE AT THE BANKS IN 5 MIN. THAT'S WHERE WE ARE
THE ONLY THING IS THE EXCHANGERS ARE NOT IN POSITION, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYONE ELSE IS
BUT THEY DONT' HAVE TO WORRY, THE CALLS HAVE TO START FIRST, AND THEY CAN MOVE
EVERYONE IN POSITION, THEY WANTED TO MOVE THEM OUT OF POSITION AND EVERYONE WAS DIRECTED TO STAY WHERE THEY ARE, AND THAT'S A BIG POSITIVE, KEEPING A HIGH LEVEL OR READINESS BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE MOMENT, THAT'S HOW CLOSE WE ARE TO THIS HAPPENING ANY TIME

GOING TO Q AND A - NEW PPL -- IF YOU CALLED BEFORE --- LET NEW PPL IN

512, 908 Jersey Mike, 210

c- ty - 

919
c- for the ppl that feed you info, and got new waders for Christmas, are boots ok now?
t- deep sea fishing?
t- everyone has info overload and agency overload
t- guys I would tell you if we were a month away or 10 days away, we are right there, the  #s are gone down,it could go off in 30 min. seriously, not telling ppl that it is, nor telling you today, tmrw, or the next day, but it could go, and I'm happy and know the possibilities, it should have gone 2 days ago, and the issue again has nothing to do w/ the system - nothing to do w ppl battling over the rate, even now at this point, and go out on a limb and say - not going to say - cause its not 100% sure that its true - it still might be an issue so I'll leave it alone
c-text the question to those above you
t- no, DC
dc- you answered it well
c- dc a while back, you said you were in this for 15 years, and the new dinar is only 10 years old, were you in the process of setting things up
t- can't wait to hear this one
dc- the bottom line, there were others that were made aware of this beforehand, Iraq is amazing country and the center of commerce for long time, and trade value & agriculture value , and options to capitalize on it and bring it to the forefront.
c- bonds sold?
t- initially got a rate of 3.something and they were to be paid out, here is the issue, everything was done on track, WTO and GOI, but here is how I look at it, everytime there was a date/time to do it, and its delayed there becomes a new issue and it should have went Wed. and last Friday we were 17 min. or 3 min. away and every time it doesn't - when you get in a car accident, and or you fall playing sports and get hurt and or you are the driver and you crash, and say OH MAN MY CHEST IS KILLING ME CAUSE THE STEERING WHEEL HIT ME, AND THEN THE SHOULDER, BUT YOU DIDN'T FEEL IT CAUSE THE CHEST HURT SO BAD, THEN ITS THE ELBOW AND THEN THE MIDDLE FINGER, SHOOT DIDN'T KNOW - CAUSE THE MAJOR PAIN GOES AWAY, THE OTHER PAIN SHOWS….
THAT'S WHATS HAPPENING AND CONTINUES TO GO ON, THE PAIN RIGHT NOW, IS NOT AS GREAT AS THE PAIN IN NOVEMBER, OR AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, BUT SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH TO NOT GO
c- when you give answers - you are not answering to everyone - please let Tony finish his comments - he's talking to everyone
t- and everyone is everyone
lol
t- don't have to call me

718
c- avoid certain questions and lets get it over it
t- that's what they said
c- just say you'll pass
t- I do want you to understand though, and a lot of ppl said they got so educated, didn't know my country worked this way, or biz. worked this way, and think it helped all of us, want to give you the best I can and feel as comfortable as I am
c- everyone who has listened for a while that you have our best interest and we hear and feel you when you struggle thru this questions, and we were almost there on Wed. its like damn
t- the agency didn't say it stopped the RV, but that we buy all this dinar and have to run backgrounds, etc.. and it changes hourly and right now its hourly - when they say hey - let them know - after a certain level they have to do checks and not going to let everyone have this kind of money and there are ppl out there w/ bad intentions, here and around the world

754
301

c- after the RV and the Vegas thing, so that those of us that appreciate the Mods, can pay for the whole shebang…
t- pay for Vegas
c-  yeah - the expenses, security and food and other things and some of us might want to cover the cost and a system where we can do it
t- tell you now, according to Montana, its going to cost me $5M to do Vegas - just for the event - itself - tables chairs, not including the entertainment and feeding you and then another $10M in prizes, that are being given out - not cheap for a 4 day event - and a short span of time - as fast as we can - after the RV and get the advice etc.. don't know how
We can set a donation bucket lol - don't want to do this --- don't want ppl to ever say that Tony got your money for anything - don't want to be like the other sites and set you up for things, and Pam wants to do something in my daughters name, i.e. Keisha's kids and maybe donate to that, it would be a great help and right at this moment haven't given it a 2nd thought and thank you
c- shout out to Pam and Ralph in DC, and they have friends who will be billionaires when it comes out at the higher rate and if there are specific instructions to those that have 50-100M dinar, 
t- you know what, perfectly honest w/ you - to make a point - if we don't want this to turn into Wed. call, then….
c- understand, thought you said you would use more than one bank
t-oh, yeah, but not talking about the other thing 
t- that's why we have tntsuperfantastic, that's what that's for, to discuss future investments, not advising you - not going to be partners with me - anything that looks like it can cause a cloud.  Classes and group meetings for $10M and above… want to go over the numbers --- unprecedented as we grow together, those things I don't mind and won't' be able to do on the other site, is after I sign, my own NDA , we won't talk about it there, but if they give me an hour and I can talk, we've been trying to get a message to them on how to help you thru the process and no feedback yet.
t- want to do the numbers DC
t- don't want to be exact
t- looking at how many ppl w/ that - over 100M
t- lets go w/ that
t- the over $50M and above
dc- dollars or dinars
t- dinars
dc- not that many, rare, few, w/ reserves still not that many, and, taxes -- not that many
t- so my point is, that you heard things, that it doesn't apply to 80-90%
t- don't want you to be concerned, it does not apply to you
t- 50M dinar, not 50M dollars, a whole lot of you will have 50M dollars, so that can go away now

615, 717, 609, 954, 636,818,601

c- will the VNN go at the same time as the dinar
t- still on the board together and scheduled to go together

617

c- an observation - they went to the 40K rich and powerful ppl and had no problems and waiting for something to stop it
t- can I say I agree w/ you
dc- lol
c- looking for a scapegoat, and I can push a button
t- I just can't be one way - reality there are still issues - can't be educated on Mon. and Wed and then dumb on Friday - we know it went on and privileged ppl got paid and continue to be paid and we can't stop it and they do what they do, and we are that close - trying to convey to everyone and know that its done on every possible level and while they try to do the last little thing and stop paying ppl and the investigations continue, and it may go on for years - we know you can't put spilled milk back in the bottle or pretend it didn't spilled, but not hindering us at the moment, assuming everything else that I'm hearing they made final decisions if not 99% - but sounds like they made 99%
dc- ty  Tony --- they used them as a test and from TX corny phrase, they let a few thru the shoot and it got bombarded and a stampede - they had to slow it down and hard to get the #s - I've been trying and its good and ready to go and very nervous about 5m ppl stampeding through the banks and caused lots of sleepless nights for some ppl and we've helped by telling you what to do and not act like idiots, and they are very worried about the stampede and security issues and bad guys having money and we're not that big of a factor - but we can become - on an hourly basis they care about what we are doing, then its oh those ppl that are going to make money, then its a criminal issue, and its like the lottery of issues, like the wheels and they pick a number out of a basket
c- is it still one person that's doing this
dc- no
dc- a group of folks that believe they have everyones interest at heart
is it frustrating - absolutely
are we close - absolutely
and when is this thing?
If someone said hey - its happening on Jan, 10th and that was in Nov. it would have been a heck of a lot less hard to deal with
c- we promise not to stampede and do it quick and surprise us, maybe its better that way
c- I truly believe everything that you say and I trust you - we'll be good I promise
t- I agree with you and the majority will be good and the more info, the calmer they'll be - rather than try to guess and bottle neck - maybe when ppl get too many choices in their mind - follow the yellow brick road, but not a brick road w/ pot holes in it and we try to do the best and you have got to know that even thought they aren't doing the morn. brief. every morning, and you do have rep's in there that do their best to represent you also
c- they don't trust us
t- its that 5% or 1% that they don't trust that make the noise and cause problems, than the 95%
t- in this situation, the minority rules and they have to have it under control, not cash out,but other stuff
t- I don't like it and I supposedly know what it is and you don't know what it is and know you wouldn't like it
c- look forward to Vegas

next 719, 818, 

c-changing the US currency when we exchange - they are going to give us UST credits, ( trying to find the article )  instead of cash
t- cash instead of credits
c- that's what they are saying
t- let me explain - got a bunch of ppl that believe a bunch of diff. things, not going to knock it, but heard 20 times at least, that one dollar will be worth .50 cents and the UST notes and its confusing to a lot of ppl, what I understand and it comes from the UST is the dinar is backed by Treasury notes and the exchange is backed by the UST and the dollar in your pocket is backed by the Fed. Res, and its like a Mortgage note, and you make payments every month, ( Tony gives a VA example ) PLEASE LISTEN TO THE REPLAY -- (one hour and 7 minutes into the call )
Put all your dinar in a sep. acct. from the other currency, its being tracked by the UST not the Fed. Res and the taxes are diff. so keep them separated - not a green dollar bill and a blue dollar bill --- (ONE HOUR AND 8 MINUTES IN THE CALL )
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719

c-small amt. of reserves in a trust,  can we cash out at the street rate and pay it off and cash it into the trust
t- guidance here
t- dc -
dc- lol - ok, so let me understand, you have all your stuff in a trust?
c- all my dong and dinar, except for a small amt. in hand, is done in a trust
c- small amt. of reserves assigned to a trust also
dc- not an atty. but - familiar - have trusts myself - need to make sure to keep it separate - from trust one , 2, 3, 4 - whatever proceeds or loans, and how to fund the trust and pay the money - personally, I keep everything inside the trusts - did that answer the question
t- no - it didn't

( little confusion here on the call -- got 818 back )
c- the treasury reserve note
t- not a dollar bill, its a note, the treasury backs the exchange
c- metals backed treasury note

( back and forth about the calls dropped )

Tony read a question about Puerto Rico

dc- there are specific - in terms of --- one if you are moving physical currency - there are forms you have to follow - just claim that you have it -- and move on - if you are moving banking - then you have to do the fincen and wire it to diff. accounts -- and diff receipt requirements - and this kind of form to import or export money between best friends, ie. UK and US or Canada and the US and info sharing if there is issues.


TONY -- TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, CAN EXCHANGE X AT CONTRACT AND X AT STREET RATE
IF YOU WANT TO CALL THE 800# AND CASH OUT AND THEN SAVE IT FOR LATER AND CASH OUT AT THE STREET RATE - OR CASH OUT AT THE STREET RATE -- THINK THEY WILL LIMIT THE AMT. THAT YOU CAN BEFORE YOU DO THAT, THINK THEY'D GIVE YOU THE STREET RATE - MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE ONE SHOT AT THE 800# AND AT THAT RATE AND YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED
WHEN I SAY ONE SHOT, THEY ARE TRYING TO COME UP W/ A GAME PLAN FOR RESERVES AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE ANNOUNCEMENT IS MADE - THERE IS A BREAKDOWN AND CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL AFTER THE RV IS ANNOUNCED OR IF WE GET COPIES OF NDA's  ( listen to the replay here -- one hour. and 21 min.)
dc- working on it
dc- saw others, and tried to walk you thru it, and they've been more discreet with passing it out and there are so many versions 
t- don't forget about the photos
t- the other thing guys and I know it will sound crazy to you and it should, absolutely ridiculous that we are doing this at this point now, but at the same time, if they have 13 versions of the NDA out there, I might understand it, some biz. ppl might, but others - what I'm not sure of - those that don't - when they are in the appt. can it be explained to them, if they have questions about paragraph 2,3,5 - we know there are 13 versions, trying to make the person that sits across of you understand it and they may have never heard about an NDA - should have been done months ago - yeah, if it was in the plan, but the NDA wasn't always in the plan, so we're at the last min. so why would they wait to educate that person- at the last min. - but if they told them all 4 months ago, then they wouldn't have tellers and exchangers now - they would have bought dinar and quit - which of you wouldn't have done it - you mean all these ppl are becoming millionaires… its a good biz. decision for them - and we have to look at both sides and when you go to your appt - the guy then says I don't know - he doesn't know - some w/ a higher knowledge of NDA's might, but that again is why I think we should be able to discuss it prior, so it would make the meeting go smoother, and I don't make the decision.  It makes good common sense to me.

IS THERE A CONTINGENCY PLAN?
t- I don't think its at, there are a lot of ppl that were removed and retired and moved on, are there still issues - yes, but our understanding is that's not what is holding us up?

More ABOUT THE WTO?
dc- don't know, as we mentioned, on Tues. many things were to be confirmed and half a dozen things to get done and some required votes and no one to raise an objection, since  Tues. way up in the air, are they really released from CH 7 and are they a member of the WTO- in the air, and initial attempt to say hey we have to check on this, and falling on deaf ears and dealing w/ other things - so a big giant ? mark, on where we are w/ the UN, WTO and Iraq has done it, and some countries accepted it and some didn't - no one has a firm answer and talk to ppl that should.
t- OK - someone does know, and made the decision and not public yet
dc- correct
t- there was a meeting and an outcome
dc- until it becomes public it doesn't matter, until you tell someone you are a member, it doesn't matter


HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD CAN THIS BE KICKED - THIS QUARTER? 
dc- not long, we are on a teetering course, we either have to back track a lot or go forward, but they can't leave it for months on end, IE. don't worry about the bonds, we gotcha, these are guys with pension funds and could care less about the gov. -- trying to invest money - and complete a road or power plant, they don't care that its advantageous to someone, so fine you won't get your road or power plant, its a bizarre spot that has to give, or painful in a short amt. of time

IS THERE A WAY TO TRADE HIGHER NOTES FOR LOWER DENOM NOTES
t- call the exchanger where you bought it, can't answer it

OK, lets see how the board is

707

PAM/SOREADYFORIT, THAT WAS CALLER #431 SEE WHAT HAPPENS

503, 510

c- hi Tony
c- hi Happy Birthday to your beautiful Wife and thank you and the mods and DC
c- if you are in a humanitarian group, can you have personal dinar too
t- going to say yes, you can always have personal, is a group that you turn the dinar in already
c- turned it in in Reno
t- scared me when you said Reno
t- Admiral's group
c- yes sire
t- you signed the 20 page contract
c- yes
t- so as an individual you can get into the 800# system
c- still cash out my personal
t- yes
c- will the money automatically go into your acct - or wait a few days
t- hold on - if you do an exchange at the bank, it will automatically be in your acct. before you leave the bank, but if you are part of a group - there are paymasters - not sure how fast they will pay you out 
c- no more than a week right
t- I can't ---- OK -- there are a lot of ppl on this call --- guys here is the issue w/ the groups -- I feel really good --- hold on ----   back --- my issue w/ groups -= the legit group is the Admiral group - and know why his group was put together, but other groups out there w/ paymasters and couldn't understand giving dinar to one person - ask yourself - if you gave it to a group and they gave you a receipt, they don't have your bank acct. info, and then the RV happens and all the money goes into his acct. -not a sanctioned group -- and they got paid - they have to separate it - how much each person got paid - and move it from their account to your acct - not sanctioned and now wire out to all these ppl - if homeland is looking at anyone that is sending out a certain amt. then what are they going to think on this guy who is sending out thousands of wires, and then you haven't gotten yours and someone else got his, and then you file a law suit and then… I know someone in Reno that walked off w/ a billion dinar - since you made the statement, try to clarify it, can't tell you that after 72 hours you are good or after a week, but look at the possibilities, but the Admiral is set up to process this and more info gathered than give me your dinar, but we'll see what happens.
c- ty and God bless

next 903

T- DC
DC- giving your money to someone else,  have concerns, like doing biz. w/ anyone, do research, and cashing out w/ Bob's group and not an atty, but read the contracts, and she is free to do what she wants on her own, and Bob's group - follows the process quite well
t- again I'm not concerned w/ his group and have the contract and know who he is and his integrity, not concerned

903

c- with regard to after the RV - if we take the money and go w/ an enterprise and increase jobs and the wealth of the US is that going to have an impact in the future, metals backed, and help the community as a whole
t- create jobs?
c- create jobs and extract precious metals and increase the metals in the US
c- does it help on the new non fiat system
t- you want to create jobs and produce metals in this country
c- yes
t- yes, it will strengthen our dollar bill, and go from job workers to a million of us become job creators will help our economy
c- under the new system
t- absolutely
c- any special phrases, IQN, w/ all the confusion and you may be able to convey or not
c- I'm just looking to do the street rate, 3 something and 6 something or anything we need to say, verbiage, forget the contract rate and handle this on a NON contract rate and still optimize my position
t- should have told you guys, but they are being educated on who gets paid what rate and that's ongoing right this moment and that shows you how close we are -- and maybe ongoing when you do your exchange, so when he doesn't know, don't' get mad and for God sake, don't say TONY SAID -
c- just go in quietly -with as little drama - make sure acct. is separated
t- 5 levels of payout, and which number you dial and which bank you go to , and if you want the street rate, anyone can 
c- 3 or 6
t- market rate, until it goes away
c- so 6 plus
t- could be 5 plus, or 6 plus, and it could have changed, that's why they said don't discuss rates
t- we will know and we will be able to talk about it,unless they cut me off before then, it will work out
c- so back to the question, a decoder ring 
c- do we need to call for an appt. if we go in w/ a large amt. of money
t- think will happen, you'll go in and tell them and they can;t handle it, limited by the amt. they can handle
t- can't go in w/ 10M and say you want the street rate or market rate, you might have to schedule it, don't be mad if that happens
t- also, by the time the RV is announced, we should be clear on this process

706
c- you are super fantastic
c- i am too
c- no question, but a concern, been with you since you started, and was in to go to Vegas, but when you transferred to super fantastic, I can't go anywhere, can't get the blast
t- super fantastic has nothing to do w/ the forum or the blast
t- just waiting for the day after, so everyone knows where we are going to move
t- a general number for Vegas, at T'NT…
c- after
t- yes after
t- the forum is tntdinar.com, the forum is locked, 20 thousand ppl 
c- I see
t- if you were already in, just call Pam at home and she'll manually put you in
c- don't have her number
t- just joking
lol
t- so Pam she has an issue
t- address it to them
c- told me that the password doesn't match……………
t- we have 80K ppl on the call, email them

next  661

c- thank you for a few months ago, when you went to Reno, we were contacted and ours was in Vegas, and give our dinar to a paymaster, so thank you - helped us out
t- glad, and I've rec'd some ph calls from the ppl that were there when I was there and they still haven't' rec'd their money
c- so I played w/ them and the Casino is buying it, and they said no its for security…… said why not go to a Police Station, lol
c- ( he's explaining the deal lol )
c- give us 3.44 in cash and then the rest in a few days….
c- DC common sense and the Gov. do not go hand in hand
t- unfortunately I can't comment at this time, got to tell you this part, and this is the reality - understand - not too much info -- last 2 days we talked to 12 - 15 agencies, and its not that they are not trying to achieve the same goal, but going about doing it diff ways -  i got a call, that said DON'T DO Q & A and do what you do, but get off the ph.  the other call, was don't talk, just answer the questions, right hand, left hand, everyone wants to do it their way and they want you to know they are doing the best they can and its confusing …..
The right goal in mind…. and in DC its more about not telling what they are doing.. diff. rules of engagement, with each other.
dc- handled it well - bunch of ppl trying to work toward the same goal and def the end of that tail - getting whipped around
c- dc I apologize for this, they say 
but we can trust the gov. --- all I can say -- ask an Indian if we can.  
t- lol

MONTANA HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE
2 MIN,
SHE'S SENDING ME MESSAGES

COULD BE TODAY
TOMORROW
MONDAY MORNING
NOT THE PROCESS WE ARE CONCERNED WITH
NOT TECH ISSUES
BEEN THRU THE TESTING
NONE OF IT IS BEING USED AS AN EXCUSE
NOT THE BANKS
THEY ARE READY
EXPLAINING TO THE TELLERS TODAY, TOMORROW THE NEXT DAY
AND THE SECURITY IS IN PLACE AT EVERY LEVEL
AGENCIES THERE
LESS MEETINGS AND BRIEFINGS
WE ARE THAT MUCH CLOSER
EVERYTHING IS GOOD
THIN WE
LL 
GET THE INFO
AND EXPLAIN THINGS TO YOU
MORE LATER THIS EVE. OR OVER THE WEEKEND
AND HOW IT SHOULD GO OUT TO THE PUBLIC
AM I HAPPY/EXCITED
I AM
IS THIS CALL A LITTLE DIFF.
THAN WED
IT IS
HOPE BY MONDAY WE'LL BE BACK ON TRACK
OR NOT DOING THE CALL
DC- ME TOO
T- THOUGHT WE WERE ONE OR 2 CALLS AWAY FROM DOING THIS
AND HOPE WE ARE THERE
BUT WE ARE ON TRACK

WE WILL HAVE A BETTER EXPLANATION ON MONDAY
IF WE HAVE TO DO THE CALL
BLASTS THIS EVE. OR TOMORROW
SO LOOK FOR THAT


DC- WISH YOU ALL WELL, AND HOPE WE NEVER TALK AGAIN AND WISH YOU THE BEST ON YOUR SUCCESS,A ND DO IT SLOW, RESEARCH AND DON'T HAND IT OFF TO ANYONE ELSE, MAKE SURE YOU DANG WELL UNDERSTAND UNTIL YOU DO

PAM --- THANKS FOR PUTTING UP WITH US ON WED. PIF AND BE GOOD TO EACH OTHER

RAY- ONCE AGAIN - SMOKEY ROBINSON, REALLY GOING TO MISS YOU

T- ONE LAST THING BEFORE WE GO, IF YOU SPEND TIME ON THE BOARD - ASK THE TOP 1- THINGS - THE MODS MONITOR THE BOARDS AND GOT A LOT OF PM'S -- TRY TO DO AS MUCH AS I CAN LEADING UP TO IT AND FEEL THAT I OWE YOU ANOTHER CALL --- MIGHT DO SOMETHING OVER THE WEEKEND, FEELING BAD --- MIGHT - BUT DEF. BACK ON TRACK BY MONDAY IF WE HAVE TO DO A MONDAY CALL

ENJOY YOUR DAY