Bam! Bam! Huge Financial Bombs Just Got Dropped All Over Europe!

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Bam! Bam! Huge Financial Bombs Just Got Dropped All Over Europe!

Posted By: Lion [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 15-Jan-2012 08:40:50

--------------- Source: Before It's News http://beforeitsnews.com/story/1624/883/Bam_Bam_Bam_Huge_Financial_Bombs_Just_Got_Dropped_All_Over_Europe.html ---------------- Bam! Bam! Bam! Huge Financial Bombs Just Got Dropped All Over Europe Fri Jan 13 2012 18:04 The European debt crisis has just gone to an entirely new level. Just when it seemed like things may be stabilizing somewhat, we get news of huge financial bombs being dropped all over Europe. Very shortly after U.S. financial markets closed on Friday, S&P announced credit downgrades for nine European nations. This included both France and Austria losing their cherished AAA credit ratings. When the credit rating of a country gets slashed, that is a signal to investors that they should start demanding higher interest rates when they invest in the debt of that nation. Over the past year it has become significantly more expensive for many European nations to borrow money, and these new credit downgrades certainly are certainly not going to help matters. Quite a few financially troubled nations in Europe are very dependent on the ability to borrow huge piles of cheap money, and as debt becomes more expensive that is going to push many of them over the edge. Yesterday I wrote about 22 signs that we are on the verge of a devastating global recession, and unfortunately that list just got a whole lot longer. Over the past several months we have seen quite a few credit downgrades all over Europe, but we have never seen anything quite like what S&P just did. Standard & Poor’s unleashed a barrage of credit downgrades on Friday.... -France was downgraded from AAA to AA+ -Austria was downgraded from AAA to AA+ -Italy was downgraded two more levels from A to BBB+ -Spain was downgraded two more levels -Portugal was downgraded two more levels -Cyprus was downgraded two more levels -Malta was downgraded one level -Slovakia was downgraded one level -Slovenia was downgraded one level This is really bad news for anyone that was hoping that things in Europe would start to get better. Borrowing costs for many of these financially troubled nations are going to go even higher. In addition, there was another really, really troubling piece of news that came out of Europe on Friday. It was announced that negotiations between the Greek government and private holders of Greek debthave broken down. The Institute of International Finance has been representing private bondholders in negotiations with the Greek government about the terms of a "voluntary haircut" that is supposed to be a key component of the "rescue plan" for Greece. Greece desperately needs private bondholders to agree to accept a "voluntary haircut" of 50% or more. Without some sort of an agreement, the finances of the Greek government will collapse very quickly. For now, negotiations have failed. There is hope that negotiations will resume soon, but Greece is rapidly running out of time. The Institute of International Finance issued a statement on Friday which said the following.... "Unfortunately, despite the efforts of Greece's leadership, the proposal put forward … which involves an unprecedented 50% nominal reduction of Greece's sovereign bonds in private investors' hands and up to €100 billion of debt forgiveness — has not produced a constructive consolidated response by all parties, consistent with a voluntary exchange of Greek sovereign debt" The IIF says that negotiations are "paused for reflection" right now, but they are hoping that they will be able to resume before too long.... "Under the circumstances, discussions with Greece and the official sector are paused for reflection on the benefits of a voluntary approach" Something needs to be done, because Greece is experiencing a complete and total financial meltdown. Back at the end of July, the yield on one year Greek bonds was sitting at about 40 percent. Today, the yield on one year Greek bonds is up to an astounding 396 percent. That is how fast these things can move when confidence disappears. Those living in the United States should keep that in mind. Unfortunately, Greece is not the only European nation that is completely falling apart financially. We aren't hearing much about it in the U.S. media, but Hungary is a total basket case right now. The credit rating of Hungary was reduced to junk status some time ago, and now the IMF and the EU are threatening to withhold financial aid from Hungary if the Hungarians do not run their country exactly as they are being told to do. In particular, the IMF and the EU are absolutely furious that Hungary is trying to take more political control over the central bank in Hungary. The following is from an article in the Daily Mail.... The European Union has stepped up pressure on Hungary over the country's refusal to implement austerity policies and threatened legal action over its new constitution. The warnings escalated the standoff between Budapest and the EU, as Hungary negotiates fresh financial aid from Europe and the International Monetary Fund. Over the past months, the country's credit rating has been cut to junk by all three major rating agencies, unemployment is 10.6 percent and the country may be facing a recession. But bailout negotiations broke down after Budapest refused to cut public spending and implemented a new constitution reasserting political control over its central bank. Slovenia is a total mess right now as well. The following comes from a recent article posted on EUObserver.com.... Slovenia's borrowing costs have reached 'bail-out territory' after lawmakers rejected the premier-designate, putting the euro-country on the line for further downgrades by ratings agencies. Zoran Jankovic, the mayor of Slovenia's capital Ljubljana, fell four votes short of the 46 needed to be approved as prime minister by the parliament, with the country's president set to re-cast his name or propose someone new within two weeks. Some time ago, I warned that 2012 was going to be a more difficult year for the global economy than 2011 was. Well, things are certainly starting to shape up that way. Europe is heading for some really hard times. What is about to happen in Europe is going to shake the entire global financial system. Those that live in the United States should take notice, because the U.S. financial system is far more fragile than most people believe. Our banking system is a gigantic mountain of debt, leverage and risk and it could fall again at any time. In addition, the U.S. debt problem is bigger than it has ever been before. For example, did you know that the federal government is on a pace to borrow 6.2 trillion dollars by the end of Obama's first term in office? That is more debt than the U.S. government accumulated from the time that George Washington became president to the time that George W. Bush became president. For now the U.S. government is still able to borrow giant piles of super cheap money, but such a situation does not last forever. Just ask Greece. Already there are indications that foreigners are starting to dump large amounts of U.S. debt. If this trickle becomes a flood things could become very bad for the United States very quickly. We are on the verge of some very bad things. The kinds of "financial bombs" that we saw dropped today are going to become much more frequent. As governments, banks and investors scramble to survive, we are going to see extreme amounts of volatility in the financial marketplace. Things are not going to be "normal" again for a really, really long time. Hold on tight, because 2012 is going to be a very interesting year. (end snip here...) ---------------- But don't forget this... Enough Is Never Enough For Reptile Psychopaths of Central Banking.... ------------------ Source: Alcuin Bramerton http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/ ---------------------------------- Global banking crisis? What global banking crisis? Thousands of quadrillions of hidden monies revealed to be held in multiple off-ledger black screen accounts. The Committee of 300's shadow government banking scam has its royal knickers ripped off. How rich is White Spiritual Boy now, Your Majesty? http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/

***AMAZING*** UFO January 5, 2012 Beijing China Shuangliu Airport

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***AMAZING*** UFO January 5, 2012 Beijing China Shuangliu Airport (Video)

Posted By: Mr.Ed [Send E-Mail]
Date: Sunday, 15-Jan-2012 03:26:09

AMAZING UFO January 5, 2012 Beijing China Shuangliu Airport YouTube Note the smaller craft circling around under the large craft. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LkBky-Nb4Q&feature=player_embedded

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Global banking crisis?
What global banking crisis?
Thousands of quadrillions of
hidden monies revealed to be held
in multiple off-ledger
black screen accounts.
The Committee of 300's
shadow government banking
scam has its royal knickers
ripped off.
How rich is White Spiritual Boy
now, Your Majesty?

Mitt Romney Accused of Abuse

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Mitt Romney Accused of Abuse

Posted By: TheMelinda
Date: Saturday, 14-Jan-2012 20:22:35

NEWS RELEASE - Pillsbury-Foster Presidential Campaign  Pillsbury-Foster for President  pillsbury-foster4president@gmail.comROME, Ohio - Meow-Meow, animal companion to Arthur Foster, eldest son of Democratic candidate for president, Melinda Pillsbury-Foster, today called for Mitt Romney to be strapped to the roof of the car for a trip to the dog house. While Meow-Meow, an orange tabby, also known as M&M, is not overly fond of dogs he called all species to move for solidarity on this issue of outrageous cruelty. M&M pointed out the heinous act included washing the Romney animal hostage down with water when he could not hold himself and then, ignoring the wind-chill factor, returning Seamus to the POW camp on the roof of the car. (see news report) At the same time M&M, calling for an investigation by a to-be-called pack of senators, averred that Romney should not be spayed until or unless there is a second incident. END

Message from the Galactic Federation by Greg Giles - January 14, 2012

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Message from the Galactic Federation by Greg Giles - January 14, 2012

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Date: Saturday, 14-Jan-2012 18:20:27

Message from the Galactic Federation by Greg Giles - January 14, 2012 News stories will begin to trickle through to the viewing public concerning matters which we have already discussed with many of you concerning our presence in your skies and of matters concerning your governments and financial systems. Soon, all truths will be quickly and efficiently shared with you concerning all matters of your world, but for now, just a slight crack in the wall of secrecy will allow pinholes of light to begin to shine through. We are here. Many of you already are quite aware of this fact. With the cooperation of some of your media outlets, considerably more of your world will learn of our presence and begin to question why we are here at this time and what this has to do with the year and prophecies of 2012. Pieces will begin to snap together, and soon a picture will begin to emerge from all the scrambled information. It will not take long for many of your forward thinkers to see that incredible changes to your civilization are at hand. Please see to it that many of the missing pieces to the puzzle are offered to help them see the entire landscape before them. This is your task. Many at this time are asking how they can assist the Galactic Federation, the Ashtar Command, and our Earth allies. We tell you again to share the news of our presence. Soon, all will see that you spoke the truth and that you were a leader of your fellow man. There will be those who scoff. There will be those who disbelieve and ridicule, but in the end there is only one truth in this regard. We are here, and we are not leaving until our job is completed and humanity and its living planet are escorted into the higher realms where they have long belonged. This is our mission. This is our purpose here at this time. See to it your brothers and sisters become at least aware of the possibility of extraterrestrial life so as to lessen the blow of our announcements that will begin soon. Final preparations have already been made throughout the Galactic fleets. We are poised and ready for the commencement of the initial phases of the operation that will entail several successive maneuvers. Initial broadcasts of our presence are just the beginning. Much must be accomplished in a very short period of time, and therefore events will quickly transpire like rapidly falling dominoes. We are anxious to begin these phases of our mission, and we are all highly trained in each of our specific assignments. Many of you have never before experienced the machinelike precision of such a large undertaking before, but you will witness these operations being handled quickly and smoothly by highly trained and capable personnel. Each of us has undergone extensive training in our particular fields to be of service to you, humanity, at this time and we are very eager to put all of our efforts to good use. To see the smiles on so many of your shining faces when you see the ills of your world quickly begin to be cured is all the recompense we require. It is our honor and pleasure to be here at this time, in service for the light and the greater good of all our brothers and sisters throughout this universe. This is our oath, to extend our hand in friendship with the offer of assistance to all others throughout this universe. Be vigilant to your skies, your media outlets, and your inner voice. Our presence will be made known to all through these avenues. Continue to share this information and help calm the ripples of fear that may spread throughout your societies. The Illuminati are crumbling as are the fighting forces they control. Very soon they will be powerless and be of no threat to anyone any longer. This is the task of many of our fleet and of our Earth allies. Much continues to happen behind the scenes and this information is been corroborated by several other channels of our messages. Be advised, not all that is reported to be messages from the light are authentic, but we see many of you have strengthened your powers of discernment and are very capable of filtering out the false and fear laden vibrations of some of these communications. We will continue to keep you abreast of any last-minute updates or changes to our plans, but as it stands today we are set to trigger the first domino and begin the phase of operation so many of you have long been waiting for. We thank you for your patience and your hard work rolling out the welcome mat for us. We will be with you soon. Until then, prepare and be well. We are your Family of Light from the stars. As channeled through Greg Giles Ascension Earth 2012 http://www.ascensionearth2012.blogspot.com/

Tim Turner - The Benedict Arnold - WHEN FIRST YOU PRACTICE TO DECEIVE

WHEN FIRST YOU PRACTICE TO DECEIVE

It’s been awhile since I updated everyone on the Turner “inmate detention plan” as I have been greatly occupied with measures which really will and do make a difference for the people. Things like turning the tables on debt collectors and making them pay instead of being a victim, jury nullification, preparedness and survival skills etc. Some while back I turned over all evidence of Turners crimes, plans and lies to the “chair” of his so-called Judicial Committee charged with the task of investigating the missing ID machine and money. This of course was a red herring as Turner thought he had chosen someone he could control and thus direct the findings. Imagine the surprise when the gentleman turned out to be fully honorable and equally tenacious. I do wish I could have seen the look on Turner’s face when he realized he had mistakenly appointed a true “man of the people” to that post.

The whole thing backfired when the investigator discovered the truth of the machine, the money and the false accusations associated with it and found that one lie led to hundreds more and he expanded the scope of his investigations. The rest of the committee though were better chosen by Turner and opposed the chair when he sought to demand all evidence be heard, seen and included. At first Turner demanded the investigator “turn over all evidence” to him before presenting it to the people. When that didn’t work he simply manipulated the committee to remove the chair. Many threats and attempts at intimidation via email went back and forth but still the investigator held his ground. Same poop different day! Unfortunately for Turner though the honorable man still holds in his possession the evidence and will in his own manner use it when the time is right in the appropriate way.

Fast forward a few weeks to the time when I obtained a recorded call of the RuSA “Integration and Immigration” committee where four people discussed how they would prevent ANY persons of ANY faith other than theirs (fanatical Evangelical Christian), from being Americans…. Some trick if you can pull it off. I played the call and shared some related history on a Sunday blog talk radio show. Naturally those speaking on the call in the meeting attempted to back pedal and deny their own words later but words spoken are like spilled milk, once out of the mouth they can’t be retrieved. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/show3.aspx?userurl=freedomizerradio&year=2011&month=11&day=27&url=freedom-reigns

Two or three weeks later another recorded call made its way into my hands. This one was a Republic Round Table Call for December 8^th, 2011. On this call Turner rants and raves in his juvenile fashion about how the state of Texas (the whole state and all its elected officials), had rebelled and sent him a letter declaring their unanimous refusal to “obey his laws” and therefore were kicked out of the Republic and it was irrefutable, permanent and not reversible. In truth the “letter” Turner claimed he had, was a complete fabrication. There had been no letter making such claims or statements. Instead there had been demands for truth from the Texas Jural Assembly! Those demands and communications had been published on the Texas web site right out in the open for all to see; http://www.therepublicstateoftexas.org/

Again I shared the recording on a Sunday radio show and then read aloud from the actual words of the Texans what had actually taken place, once again exposing Turner for the blatant liar that he is. Of course more threats ensued against the good folks in Texas including the threat of a law suit for slandering the liar. It doesn’t take rocket science to hear a man lie and then see the evidence of the lie to conclude he is nothing more than a pinheaded hillbilly prevaricator but it’s up to the people to add two and two and come up with four.

While all of this was going on I had become involved in a project I was asked to do as a direct result of an action taken by the state of Pennsylvania that had gotten the attention of some very powerful individuals who had determined that by accident or design Pennsylvania had discovered the single, simple requirement for the people of this nation to declare themselves free, independent and apart from the criminal corporation in Washington D.C.. As many of us have been trying to point out for so long, YOU ARE THE ANSWER. All it takes for the people to return to true Republic governance is to make the statement to the world and do it. Thomas Jefferson told us exactly that in the Declaration of Independence. Indeed we are instructed and required to do that if we should find ourselves under a despotic and tyrannical central government. We are not told to organize a second de facto dictatorship to replace the first one or to ignore the intent of our founders like the Turner round up gig CONTINUES to do.

As it turned out all that is needed is for a simple majority of states to duplicate the actions of the state of Pennsylvania and send the appropriate NOTICE to the world through the Hague. Do not mistake me I did not say APPLICATION FOR RECOGNITION, OPINION or PERMISSION. What I did say was NOTICE, simple, straightforward and firm. We are Americans, we need no recognition, permission or foreign approval to be so. In hindsight it should have been the first clue that Turner was a liar and a de facto employee when he insisted over and over again that the people must “get RECOGNITION from the Hague” to be American and for his silly little “Interim Government” to have “standing”. The Hague is nothing more than the watchdog for the UN therefore asking them for standing or recognition is nothing more than asking the Fox to agree the Chickens are free to leave, think that would ever happen? Since when do Americans ask permission to be free? However we have through ignorance, duplicity and deceit consented to the power of the illegal corporate governance in D.C. that we are currently being victimized by and because we have done that our military has been under the direction of a false “Commander in Chief” instead of the true Civilian Authority of the people. Therefore until the people unite and declare the D.C. Criminals not to be a lawful government, the military has no power to act on their behalf. Simple.

It took less than a day for Turner’s sycophants to infiltrate the conference calls with other states to share the procedures for duplicating what Pennsylvania had done. In fact the first recorded call was used to twist the intent and name me as a leader of a group in opposition to the so called “Republic” in an article on the official “kiss up” newsletter site. Turner then made completely false statements to his followers on another “Round Table” call and claimed the states involved had sent documents to the Hague which had been rejected and returned because “he is recognized” as the real President and his Republic as the true government of this nation. Now I won’t even go into how ridiculous that is because for any clear thinking adult, I don’t need to and because I need no defense.

What I will say is this. There is no group. There are no leaders. There is no organization and there have been no documents sent across the pond from any state except Pennsylvania. These idiots will not be privy to when they are and will have no control or influence as to the result. It’s simple folks, all it takes is for the people to unite in the right way and I will share no more details on that at this time. The time for details will come shortly and Turner can spin all the lies he likes, nothing will change it.

In the meantime Turners lies are about to bite the “followers” in the posterior. Recently he filed a law suit in the name of the “Republic and all those within” against the U.S. Federal Government. If it really were a law suit, which it isn’t as it states no claim for relief and no grounds for suit, just a lengthy religious rant and juvenile tantrum, it wouldn’t be of much consequence as there are literally hundreds of suits filed against the government at the moment that do have substance. So why did he do it? Well by effectively naming all those involved (having signed up for) in the Republic as plaintiffs, he has created the “excuse” for turning over the data base of personal info to the feds. Naturally he has claimed not to have such a data base but many of you out there will remember the rather heated controversy created in November of 2010 when he instructed Kelby Smith and C.W. Wright to turn over the data base just of elected officials to me…. Hmmm don’t have one Timmy? I still have it don’t you?

After I shared publicly, again on the radio the fact that in any law suit you most certainly do have to identify any “John Doe’s” you include either as plaintiff or defendant, Turners idiots published another misleading rant to convince the innocent they were in no danger and wouldn’t be identified. More lies. Law suits are something I do have experience with and the Federal Rules of Procedure are clear on this issue. You don’t get to sue somebody, anybody not even the government incognito! So what happens when this convoluted cry baby rant is ruled frivolous or the U.S. Attorney files a motion to dismiss with summary judgment? Those “anonymous” plaintiffs will share in monumental monetary judgment at the very least. Bad as that prospect is I don’t believe it to be the underlying motive as I am fully aware of what Turners true mission is.. To render unto Caesar that which Caesar thinks is his… all those patriots who would pose resistance to NWO.

Turner has been forced to make his final play now that his Merry Band of Followers has begun a rapid downhill roller coaster ride as whole states leave and truth is spread preventing growth, it’s now or never. On the other hand just creating an excuse to hand over the names to his bosses won’t get the job done. Homeland Security has to have a better reason than just another fruitless law suit to begin rounding up the patriots. 

It appears that reason may be at hand. DHS will do what it does best, create a false flag event to use as a catalyst to enable them to declare RuSA a nationwide, extreme right wing, religious terrorist cult intent on over throwing the U.S. Government. That’s all they need to begin snatching up Americans under the brand new NDAA and begin filling those ready and waiting FEMA CAMPS.

Sadly a recent tragedy may be just the ticket. We lost a great patriot and his small son last week in what appeared at first to be just a house fire. As it turns out for many reasons it is being investigated as foul play. Some of his friends who are privy to certain facts concerning the night of the fire have been interviewed and it has been revealed that the investigation is focusing on Tim Turner and RuSA.

Now we all know Turners bunch are no more threatening in that way than the Apple Dumpling Gang. For one thing none of them have the testicular fortitude to attempt such a crime. Secondly there are others, including me, which are far more of a threat to Turner than this wonderful man and his small son. In reality the facts of the case point much closer to home so why would the state investigators want to target RuSA? Why would they even ask about RuSA?

After the previous tragic deaths of Jerry Kane and son and Billy Foust and the media twist to label them “sovereigns” if the government can manage to pin a double murder or even claim the suspicion RuSA is in any way responsible they have their catalyst. We know the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center as well as the media has been labeling it as such for quite some time.

Congratulations to all those with enough common sense and self preservation to not only leave RuSA but do so with paper work to prove both the fact and the date of their departure. Perhaps the fact that I am making the West Virginia intention public will thwart that avenue. We can only hope.

In the meantime I have been sent more documents and recordings from early in the entrapment plan which I will be sharing on another radio program probably next week. While organizing some of my evidence when searching for a particular document I came across one I had overlooked in the past. I had read it before of course but had never noticed the date it was created. September 20, 2010. The document came from Turners private group of government planners and lists him as President. Well so what? Except if any of you recall and I surely do as I was there that night, when did the so called “election” with only one candidate take place? September 23, 2011. Same old same old rigged elections but Turner style this time and even better than all the others, no chance for failure when there are no other candidates!

Let’s hope all this can come to an end soon and the lies will finally come home to roost. I leave you all for now with a message to the deceiver…..

WHEN FIRST YOU PRACTICE TO DECEIVE… YOU’RE SURE TO LOSE THOSE WHO BELIEVE!

YOU ARE THE ANSWER!

TLGA


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DID U.S. GET APOLLO TECHNOLOGY FROM EX YUGOSLAVIA?

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DID U.S. GET APOLLO TECHNOLOGY FROM EX YUGOSLAVIA?

Posted By: IZAKOVIC [Send E-Mail]
Date: Saturday, 14-Jan-2012 09:39:44

Until few years ago I had a neighbour from when our condominium was constructed in 1959, Mr. Viziak, a sales manger in pension of that what preceded my present company, SVJETLOST (LIGHT) which originated in 1945 from local SIEMENS outfit that was here before WWII. Mr. Viziak was immensely interested in space flight technology, which was most curious in local environment. When I was a kid his guest in nearby Novi Vinodolski during the summer holydays was Werner Von Braun. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun Mr Viziak died 3 years ago. Few months before his death he showed me a book he was preparing most of his late life. It was about Apollo program. Other of my (my father's neighbours) was Mr. Ruppe, ex engineer, now in pension, of the same company which now is named Elektroagregati KONCAR (Generating Sets KONCAR-regional authority last 60 years for such equipment), ex part of KONCAR ELECTRO INDUSTRIES during ex Yugioslavia, of which I was manager until 10 years ago (now I am only a Marketing Manager, which is a same thing, only now under Italian property which I am not fond of). Few weeks ago I have attended a funeral of one of our neighbours, and met Mr. Ruppe. While we were waiting he told me a story about Croatians-ex Austrians many of which worked in NASA's APOLLO program. One of them was Prof Harry Ruppe, who in '60 was deputy director of NASA Marshall's Future Projects Office. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_German_rocket_scientists_in_the_United_States He was his relative I met I was a little kid. About the same time Diane (French car of that time of Citroen make) broke in front of our house, with Kral May's http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Karl_May characters Winnetou (actor Pierre Brice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Brice) and Old Shatterhand (actor Lex Barker http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lex+Barker&qpvt=Lex+Barker&FORM=IGRE) in it, while going to the set few kilometres away. I remember that when Lex Barker, after a brief intimidation run after us 2 kids (I was about 8 years old), shot his Colt at me and my friend. I was not afraid, I was just vividly interested where the bullet has gone (it was a blank). Now there this movie states that U.S. got APOLLO technology from us. Considering that TESLA was born 100 km from where Iive, and all those celeb encouters, there could be something to it. Of course, I know what there is. IZAKOVIC, FRANKOPAN http://www.deepspace4.com John's Comment - I worked on the Apollo Project and I had a number of brilliant coworkers from Europe per the above posting. This was in Bethpage, NY with Grumman on the LEM.