Monday, December 16, 2013

News, Rumors and Opinions Monday Afternoon

News, Rumors and Opinions Monday Afternoon

12/16/2013
TNT:

12-16-13 FISHERMAN1: Call centers are manned, all tests are complete, we are next, just behind the scenes BS at this point but it will come to a head today. We will get what we need today, no more hold up, no more excuses, we are there, we have arrived, and blessings are upon us and in our grasp.

[thevazrpb] I just listened to the call again and this is my take on this whole thing... again this is just an opinion .... If we take all of the information in ... including that from previouse calls... Tony said that the IMF released the rates as of just a few hours ago... keeping in mind this wasn't in the IMF hands...so I think they did what they have been saying they were going to do if we didn't release the rates... they released them at the lower rate ... and now the u.s. is trying to get the higher rates back

[rgh98j] thevazrpb thanks hope they get it together soon I am happy with the lower rate at this point
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[thevazrpb] Tony said in his call today that there were more meetings and agreements least night and based on that information we should of seen the rates this morning before 9 am... when the ust didn't release the rates the IMF said ... here we go ... we'll do it ... just like we said we were going to BAM! now take your $3.85 and go home !

Canadagoose : RECAP: RATE VERIFIED TO BE LIVE IN OTHER COUNTRIES AT 3.85. WAITING FOR IT TO POPULATE TOTALLY IN US. TONY WILL BE BACK WHEN HE HAS MORE INFO ON TIMING, ETC. THE RATE "SHOULD" BE AT 32$ WHEN IT HAPPENS. HANG ON TO YOUR SOCKS, HE'LL LET US KNOW SOON.

Snaps: THE REQUEST HAS COME DOWN FOR A REMINDER.....DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT DO NOT CALL THE BANK, YOUR CONGRESSMAN, THE IMF, THE UST, OR ME!

HopeInWyo: We know things are coming to a conclusion...or a beginning for all of us! This is an exciting time and we need to hold onto tour emotions. I used to dream of all I would do with a million dollars. This is beyond my dreams...they have to catch up to reality. We just all need to be patient and treat each other well. We never know what someone is going through, what worries they have or pressures. Just bite your tongue and be kind...or should I say bite your fingers?

 [happyhubi] Prognosis for 2014 ... World Led by U.S. Poised for Fastest Growth Since 2010   
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-12-12/world-led-by-u-s-poised-for-fastest-growth-since-2010.html

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Stage2Omega:

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 [12:10:35 PM | Edited 12:13:37 PM] # ##: I called a Forex Bank in Oslo to hear if they had more VND. She said that they had no more and that they were not able to order more. She asked me when I would go to Vietnam and I responded, next year and that I would only buy Dong now that I had heard that they would be more expensive to buy next year.

I asked if it could concur that there is a revaluation going on and she confirmed,  that was the reason they did not buy more. I thought it was because there was to be no  insider trading and speculation before it becomes a reality.

It was basically the most relevant that  was said :)

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MIG:

[xyz] Bernanke says Fed legitimacy depends on public communication http://www.cnbc.com/id/101276473

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DebTarHeelGirl: It's Monday again - STICK WITH ME - it WILL BE a good one and a good week, that part is up to you... No matter what you are facing and waiting on to change, YOU CAN KNOW IN YOUR KNOWER that GOD is still on the throne and still in charge of all that concerns you and I.

100% guaranteed that God orders the steps of His children, is even with us when WE dictate our own steps and consequences from choices we make.  Let's make a decision that TODAY WE CHOOSE to be content in KNOWING that GOD is in Control of this RV/CE.

 He did NOT bring us this far to drop us.  This RV/CE will NOT turn back as this is HIS wealth transfer.  Know that He is a big enough King and Ruler that all of these men down here THINK they are in charge - but they are not...

 HE is orchestrating all the concerns this RV/CE to the point that when we receive our blessing, there will be NO issues.

 All the words posted about NDA's and time frames, and rates up and down, and deadlines.... NO WORRIES please –

GOD IS IN CONTROL and HE will see to it that we all have a timely and straightforward exchange... AMEN?  AMEN.
   

THE COMING AMERICAN EMPIRE. FROM ERASMUS OF AMERICA - DEC. 16, 2013 - 5:10 PM

THE COMING AMERICAN EMPIRE. FROM ERASMUS OF AMERICA - DEC. 16, 2013 - 5:10 PM

     "A GREAT PEOPLE BACK GREAT LEADERS. A PETTY PEOPLE BACK PETTY LEADERS." - PROVERB. The people decide the future of the nation by the type leaders they back.

     A TV evangelist said that God had a great dream for every person born on earth. We do it God's way and we will fulfill a great dream that God has for us. We do it our way and reject God from our life, we will end up with a petty life and fulfill a petty dream instead of the great dream God originally had for us when born. I enjoy reading books that are collections of the stories and histories of ordinary people who became great saints of God. The lesson that can be learned from these histories of even most ordinary of people from most ordinary of lives is that from even the humblest of origins people can rise to greatness in their personal lives if they do it God's way instead of their own.
     A bishop or Pope in your church may give you administration for your church, but greatness as a Christian saint comes from within, not from position. I frankly have seen in history bishops and Popes I considered to be great men and leaders in their positions. I also have seen scoundrels in the same basic posts but with different men occupying these posts but not right with God from within themselves. 
     The same reality facing us in religious leadership also is great truth facing us in secular life meaning non-religious life in America and across the world. I always like to help people rise to their God-given potential in life and that proves that there is extraordinary potential in even those considered most ordinary by other people. I once had a Black businessman comment to me that there were people born with strong minds and those born with weak minds. The subtle point I would differ with is that I think normally that strong minds capable of great thoughts are created by the decision to respect truth and knowledge in their ordinary lives. But if you despise truth and powerful, sound knowledge in your life, you have decided then that you want a weak mind, not a strong mind in your personal life. A national culture that respects truth and smart answers has a bright future ahead for it. A national culture that loves lies and hates truth and hates to see anyone smarter than them in some field is not likely going far as a nation in its future. I have areas I am good in and areas I bow to the brighter brains of someone else in some other special field or another. But even if I have a for now advantage over someone else in some field, I always listen to other smart people in some field I also am good at for the moment. They may have an angle I did not know about in knowledge or a special talent in a specialized part of a field I also am good at. No one has a monopoly in brains. It is a rule among rules of mine that I respect the brains of even the worse of my enemies whether in warfare or any other field. If I face a deadly enemy general, then if I play a game of conceit that I know all which is nonsense in warfare, science, or any other professional field, I am asking to be defeated by him instead of him defeated by me. Any smart man or woman assuming leadership automatically listens to the advice of other smart people around them. As the Bible says, "There is wisdom in the multitude of counsel."
     In one area I would admit that I think I am very gifted in. As my wise mother said, "A good leader is a good evaluator." That I agree with totally. I have a gift for listening to the smart ideas of others and then judging if their answers fit in to what I am out to do. I respect degrees, but I respect most of all the man or woman with the right answer for a given situation. I once had I think it was an Italian barber who made the smartest military comment I had ever heard on why Napoleon lost at Waterloo. His answer impressed me more than the formal military lessons I learned in military school. A naval construction worker from World War II once commented to me his observation why Nazi Germany lost in their invasion of Russia in World War II. I think the boy hit a bulleye. I later sometimes repeated his observation to military sources and they thinking that I had come up with this answer myself were impressed how brilliant it was. 
     If in any way I may be rated brilliant in some field, I had the brains to listen to others who had the right brilliant answers and add their knowledge to my own. I won't deny that I sometimes come up with very clever to cunning ideas myself but I had good teachers who helped sharpen my mind in life. Like Gen. Patton of World War II, I have my sharp points but also a major strength of mine is I draw out the God-given potential of others around me and soon we are a team of very smart to very brilliant people working as a team to defeat any enemy or win any objective we are committed to winning. 
     When I was captain of a soccer team in military school, I was very good at it and the coach stood by silently and just watched as I taught my team new tactics how to play soccer. We were supposed to have the poorest team in our league and only a few had played soccer before versus the veterans in our rival teams. I had a Mexican boy among my American boys on my team. I was good at making goals, but I rated him better than me. Therefore, I had the the soccer ball normally forwarded to him as much as possible because I wanted to use our available talent to the maximum on our team. To the shock of all, we won every game and the championship in our league which no one would have believed we could as the comments when the season began were that we were nearly all amateurs and no chance at all of winning against the other superior teams facing us. Leadership turns amateurs into pros and leads to victory when you bring out the God-given potential in the others of your team so we win the games instead of our enemies.  
     One more point on what turns any smart person into potentially a brilliant person in some field. The term "brilliant" is just a subjective word congratulating someone that their clever idea worked correctly or against all perceived odds against it working right or winning. Any smart person is automatically a potential genius in the field or fields they are good in. The difference between being smart in ideas and being a genius in the same field is the one who acts on his smart idea whether man or woman is now called "genius" so long as it works as planned!. I.Q. tests may give a hint as to who might be capable of some clever bright ideas, but the person who will act on his or her bright idea that works, that is the true "genius" in any field. So brilliance is a measurement of character and not just intelligence in itself in some field or another. I love working with brilliant people and brilliant people love working with me. This is a formula for massive success in life and government policy and action. I form people into braintrusts and the braintrusts become the team focused together and committed to winning victory in our goals set up for ourselves.
     It is intriguing how those before and now gone from society help direct the way history is going to go. In Wash., D.C., there is a saying on a statute, "What is past is prologue." My great grandfather on my father's side got the idea to create this later Vatican endorsed food process. His grandson, my father, got the research papers and made it work. My great grandfather spent $500,000 to try and make this process and failed. My father read his research papers and commented to me that it showed him what did not work. Starting from there, he continued the research work and spent over $3 million between research work and patent filings in over 40 nations. Wash., D.C. pulled many dirty tricks trying to block me when I had raised the money or else commitments to cover the expenses of setting up this Vatican endorsed food process again in America. I expect to have the family food process set up soon again in America but this time with many improvements to it that my own father did not realize could be done with it.  I picked many brilliant brains for additional angles to add to the final food product and what I should end up with is the biggest food industry in the world.
     I recently this year have been in contact with a large number of the best technical brains in America in science and engineering and agriculture as a specialty field for purposes of the best angles to farming in America. I amazed even myself how many powerful connections I have developed this year and can supply us an incredibly powerful braintrust for our Camelot Project once we start building it.
      We pass the Omni Law in America and these technical brains I have been in contact with across America can supply America with powerful new industries making America once more the industrial giant of the world. Wash., D.C. has been their archenemy trying to suppress them instead of use them to help America reach its potential as a super nation and power in the world again. As I have received so many damaging reports on Obama trying to hold back and sabotage America from important sources including even maybe a few U.S. Generals thrown into the pool of testimony against Obama, I have a suggestion.
      I offer Obama a chance to prove that he wants good for America and not incredible evil for America as so many credible professional sources have reported on information they have on him. I will give him a chance if he wants it to testify under a form of semi-hypnosis as to the truth about him through a series of questions asked him by key critics of his. We give him one tranquilizer which is strong and will put his conscience mind into a very passive state. Then we use one more tranquilizer of a different type making his conscience mind totally passive and with that we can ask him blunt questions of his subconscious mind which he should answer truthfully. We will ask if his birth certificate was a forgery or not. We already know that it was a massive forgery as experts already found a number of mistakes in it. This tests whether we have reached his subconscious mind successfully or not. Then ask him if he was born in Kenya or not. Was he a homosexual and had murdered one or more of his homosexual lovers when they were going to go too public on him? Why did he fire nearly 200 top military commanders since getting in the White House? Only Stalin purged his Soviet Army of top military officers before World War II like this as a way to gain total control over the Soviet Army. By the way, since Congress refuses to let testify the massive roster of military commanders fired by Obama from military command because they were loyal to the American people and America as a nation instead of Obama first, this means that Congress has no legal integrity nor loyalty to the American people or America as a nation if we judge them by their fruits as Jesus taught to judge whether a person was good or else evil in character. What is the real reason for having around 30,000 military drones in America? To protect the American people or else crush the American people under orders of Obama? And we would have a long list of other questions to ask of Obama while under heavy tranquilizers.
     Also, we would pick three of his staff to also go under the same type of interrogation. There is a woman who may be pulling the Communist strings on him what he is supposed to do or not in the White House. Sort of the master controlling the Manchurian Candidate in the White House. We would invite the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court and two other Justices to witness that the questioning was fairly done and certify that what was recorded testimony was correct without alteration or editing. This testimony could be released to the nation to either vindicate or else condemn Obama and co-associates before the American people. Since induced under medical means, this testimony cannot be used in a court of law either civil or else criminal against Obama or others. But as high treason appears to be in control of the White House now, why would Obama refuse to submit to this method of questioning as he will not go to prison or be civilly sued because of it? But this is the only way he can get rid of the cloud of suspicion now hanging over his head that he is and has been conspiring to become dictator of America by seizure of power and then mass killing from millions of Americans up to half of the entire population of America. Many witnesses including a U.S. Army General Ret. have come forward to testify that he was conspiring a military takeover of America and become dictator of America for life and massive slaughter of the American people. Since he does not believe in the legal protection of the U.S. Bill of Rights for the American people, we are extending more legal protection to him than he would extend to us in testimony we obtain from him and make nationally public.
     If the man is innocent, this is the most effective way to vindicate his name and reputation before the American people. If he refused, obvious why as we already know that his birth certificate was a legal hoax and fraud pulled upon the American people who tried to believe him.
      Going on now to something else. My father's side of the family was a minor English nobility long ago but mainly business people over the generations. My great grandfather was a prominent business leader, banker, etc. in the Midwest and West in America and with his wealth sent his four sons to Yale University and gave each a fortune upon graduation. My mother's side of the family was an interesting combination of historical figures. She came from prominent English and Scottish background dating back centuries. But she also came from Irish background and there we enter a strange world that can influence and alter the direction America is going. This Irish family had married an illegitimate daughter of the King of England which gave them the bug (ambition) to become the royal line of Ireland. They had assisted the English King and formed an alliance with him cemented by marriage to his illegitimate daughter. This is mentioned in Irish history but in little print. Later with no one noticing them, they made marriages of alliance with important royal lines of Europe to strengthen their claim to being the royal line of Ireland. They never quite figured out how deadly was this angle of marriages with the key elements of royal lines. Due to them I have claim to part of the land of Canada and part of the land of Mexico. This is covered by treaty agreements and international law. Pass the Omni Law and we will have Canada and Mexico join in confederation with America. I don't press the land claims and they remain independent nations but joined in confederation with America making America stronger, Canada stronger, and Mexico stronger, but each remains an independent nation while we share a powerful common market, military defense, etc. and our currencies much more powerful internationally due to this confederation done peacefully and with good will on all sides in the end. And the reported 10,000 Chinese tanks if true waiting on the Mexican side of the border for invasion of America will have to be removed as part of the confederation pact made. America resumes its Manifest Destiny as it was called when America expanded from a small nation of 13 Colonies up to from ocean to ocean a huge land empire now called America. 
      There is the novelty side to such a background when you descend from a wide range of royalty as royalty liked to marry with other lines to form alliances, etc. I was a little surprised when I saw we even had a few Pharoahs of Egypt thrown into the ancient part of the background, but long after Moses, etc. But mainly well known European royal lines through the centuries. By one important will of one of these lines, I have legitimate claim under international law to one of the lands in the Middle East. After the Omni Law is passed, I want to give this land over to America, to Russia, or both as a joint territory belonging to their nation or our two nations. This would be strategically to the Middle East what is the Rock of Gibraltar is to Great Britain giving her control of the Mediterranean Sea and this land would give America, Russia, or both effective control of the Middle East if war ever came, etc. Also, as the Muslims are brutally burning down churches, persecuting and killing Christians across the Middle East as of this time, this land would give them a safe refuge to move to if Muslim fanaticism was trying to wipe out the Christians in their lands. The churches in America don't seem to care but there have been many large numbers of Christians in the Middle East who are being treated brutally by the Muslims when Wash., D.C. under Obama backs the Muslims doing this and cares nothing what happens to Christians in the Middle East which was a larger number than the Christians generally realized in America. COPIED FROM AN EMAIL REPORT:
        FOR YOUR INFORMATION ----- FOR THE COMING TAX CHANGES BEGINNING JAN. 1 THAT YOUR PRESIDENT HAS SET UP FOR ALL OF YOU----
 
HERE IS WHAT HAPPENS ON JAN 1 2014-----INCOME TAX GOES FROM 35% TO 39.6%------INCOME PAYROLL TAX GOES FROM 37.4 % TO 52.2%---------CAPITAL GAINS TAX GOES FROM 15% TO 28% DIVIDENDS TAX GOES FROM 15% TO 39.6 % AND THEN THE BIGGEST TAX IN HISTORY YOUR ESTATE INHERITANCE TAX GOES FROM 0% TO 55% ON EVERYTHING YOU GET FROM AN ESTATE THAT HAS BEEN TAXED OVER AND OVER FOR YEARS. NOW TELL ME o (meaning obama) IS NOT LOWER THAN POND SCUM. HE HAS RAPED THIS COUNTRY AND IS DESTROYING OUR NATION AND THERE IS NO ONE STANDING UP FOR US THE CITIZENS ...... THESE ARE FACTS FRIENDS ---POPPY3
      PASS THE OMNI LAW AND YOU HAVE ONE STRONG LEADER TO START WITH AND OVERNIGHT NINE MORE STRONG LEADERS BESIDES ME TO STOP ALL THIS "TAX AND DESTROY" THAT OBAMA WANTS TO DO TO AMERICA. I WILL STAND FOR YOU, BUT ALSO YOU HAVE TO STAND FOR ME AND THE OMNI LAW WE ARE SEEKING TO PASS NOW IN AMERICA. AS LENIN SAID HOW TO COLLAPSE AMERICA INTO COMMUNISM, "THE POWER TO TAX IS THE POWER TO DESTROY (AMERICA)!"
     THE MOMENT THE OMNI LAW IS PASSED, WE REPEAL ANY WILD TAXES OF OBAMA AND YOU GET TO KEEP WHAT YOU REALIZED FROM AN RV OF FOREIGN CURRENCIES IF YOU PURSUED THIS ANGLE WITH YOUR MONEY. ONE SOURCE CLAIMED THAT HE HEARD THAT HOLDERS OF RV CURRENCY WOULD BE ALLOWED TO CASH IN ONE SINGLE $25,000 NOTE PER MONTH. IF TRUE, WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT OF OBAMA OUR VERY COMMUNIST PRESIDENT OF AMERICA? THE MOMENT THE OMNI LAW IS PASSED, YOU CAN CASH IN ALL OF YOUR FOREIGN CURRENCIES FOR RV IF YOU WANT AND IF YOU LOST DUE TO OBAMA, ETC., WE WILL SEE A SPECIAL LAW IS PASSED SO YOU CAN SUE OBAMA AND ALL HIS ALLIES IN FEDERAL AGENCIES OR IN CONGRESS FOR WILLFUL DESTRUCTION OF THE VALUE OF YOUR RV CURRENCY. ALSO, AS SOME STATE GOVERNORS HAVE SHOWN GOOD INITIATIVE OF HOW STATE GOVERNMENTS COULD SET UP HEALTH INSURANCE PLANS TO REPLACE OBAMACARE, WE PUT THIS UP TO NATIONAL REFERENDUM WHETHER TO LET THE STATES REPLACE OBAMACARE. AS OBAMACARE IS THE FRONT FOR A TOTAL FEDERAL POLICE STATE IN AMERICA, I AM FIRMLY IN OPPOSITION TO IT.
      THIS IS STILL UNDER WRAPS A BIT BUT HELPING TO SUPPORT THE MOVE TO WHERE YOU CAN LATER ON AT NEARLY NO FEE AT ALL CONVERT AT WILL YOUR CURRENCY HOLDINGS INTO MAYBE AROUND 190 TO 200 DIFFERENT FOREIGN CURRENCIES AT WILL AND IN ANY AMOUNT EVEN MANY MILLIONS OF AMERICAN DOLLARS OR OTHER EQUIVALENT CURRENCIES. CONVERSION MIGHT TAKE AS SHORT AS 3 SECONDS AND SAFE FROM HACKERS. ONCE WE HAVE CAMELOT OPERATIONAL, PLAN TO HAVE A BANK THERE ABLE TO HANDLE ALL FOREIGN CURRENCIES AND OUR FINAL RECORDS WILL BE PAPER, NOT ELECTRONIC, AND HACKERS CAN'T STEAL YOUR MONEY FROM YOU! SECRET TECHNOLOGY WILL BE PART OF OUR HAND FOR THIS SO YOU CAN MOVE YOUR MONEY FREELY AROUND THE WORLD WITHOUT FEAR OF THEFT. AND AFTER ALL THE LEGAL NONSENSE WE HAVE SEEN FROM WASH., D.C., UNDER THE OMNI LAW, OUR CAMELOT LOCATION WILL NOT BE UNDER CONTROL OF THE CORRUPT OF WASH., D.C. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THE CORRUPTION AND DISHONESTY OF WASH., D.C. TOWARDS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
       OUR OMNI LAW IS BASED UPON THE CIVIL TRIBUNE CONCEPT OF ANCIENT ROME WHICH JAMES MADISON, FATHER OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION, ENDORSED AS THE SMARTEST IDEA OF ANCIENT MAN TO PROTECT THE RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE FROM TYRANNY AND FORCE THE GOVERNMENT TO OBEY THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE OF THE NATION. WE HAVE THE PROPOSED OMNI LAW SHOWN ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN ALSO SEE IT IN SOME OF OUR REPORTS POSTED ON NESARA NEWS AND LOCATE THROUGH THEIR SEARCH BOX ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THEIR BLOG. PASS THIS REPORT AROUND TO FELLOW AMERICANS AND TO ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL.
      IF OBAMA TRIES TO BLOCK YOU FROM EXCHANGING YOUR MAIN SUPPLY OF FOREIGN CURRENCIES FOR THE RV RATE ONCE IT OCCURS, UNDER THE OMNI LAW, WE WILL CHARGE HIM IN THAT CASE AND ALL SUPPORTERS OF SUCH POLICY IN GOVERNMENT WITH HIGH TREASON AS THAT IS WHAT IT WOULD BE TO TRY AND SABOTAGE THE AMERICAN ECONOMY FROM WASH., D.C. UNDER OBAMA CONTROL. IF HE STALLS THIS RV POLICY FROM OCCURING AS REPORTED HE HAS ALREADY TRIED, THIS IS AN ACT OF HIGH TREASON IN THAT CASE AND WILL BE TREATED AS SUCH UNDER THE OMNI LAW ONCE YOU THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FORCE CONGRESS AND STATE LEGISLATURES TO PASS IT AND STOP THE STALL AND NONSENSE!
      Our national website is www.fastboomamericaneconomy.com Our email is fastbooamericaneconomy.com@gmail.com Our mailing address is NIFI, P.O. Box 1465, Seneca, SC 29679 . Make checks, etc. out to NIFI if you want to send us support to pass the Omni Law by mail instead of through the website. Tell us what the payment is for whether for a product on the website (helps finance the Omni Law Drive) or else the Omni Law Loan Program (which by loan money helps finance the Omni Law Drive.).
      If any American citizen finds federal tactics trying to block you from cashing in your foreign currency for the RV exchange when you have been a law abiding citizen of America and not some wildeyed Muslim terrorist, etc., let us know and under the Omni Law we will prosecute those in the federal government who tried to deny you your legal rights as an American citizen, have them sued for you for full damages financially owed you and punitive damages beyond that. 
      Pass this report to all sources you can and elected representatives all you have to do is adopt the Omni Law proposal on our website as your proposal of law and put it up for voting on in Congress or your state legislatures. Constitutional amendments have been passed swiftly when the people and elected representatives wanted the constitutional passed AND NOW!
      YOURS FOR GOD AND COUNTRY, ERASMUS OF AMERICA (PEN NAME FOR THAT AMERICAN LEADER CHALLENGING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO DARE AND BECOME A GREAT PEOPLE AND NATION AGAIN AS ORIGINAL AMERICA WAS!). 



TNT DINAR MONDAY CONFERENCE CALL NOTES

Date: Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Subject: TNT DINAR MONDAY CONFERENCE CALL NOTES




Tony Mon.CC Recorded Link and Note by FlPatriot59 at I4U

12/16/2013
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Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U:

TNT CALL STARTING NOW......T = TONY | C = CALLER

TONY - Good morning, TNT. I know I'm a little late but most of you will be glad I am. This is it. I was going to give a blast of truth with inside info about the 800#s being out between 2AM and 9AM this morning. I want to give some explanations about meetings that were held last night and this morning.

T - Actually I was going to give you more than you want to know about how govt's work and how devious some are. Fortunately I don't have to tell you any of that. It would've given you insight when you watch the news or hear a breaking news story. When you understand how to connect the dots you have to look at the bigger picture.
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T - I was going to do all of that when they didn't give the numbers. Based on what happened last night we expected that because they had the capability to do that (release the 800#s). Here's the story: 15, 20, 30 minutes ago the IMF actually released the rates and RV. On TV yesterday and today Iraq is telling people about the value of their currency, people in the mosques saying they can't use the USD, what

T - The cards all have 3.44 everywhere and they are able to use them internationally. We know that right at this moment the IMF has released the RV at $3.85 in all countries EXCEPT the USA. The 800#s have not been released yet. The other countries are verifying they do have it and are sending it out to their banks right now. We have verified the rates are live with one bank in the USA at .07 and it is changing. If you want this rate you can get it right now. We just don't have the final info about when it will be released here at the higher rates.

T - Those countries where it is being released (6 countries) at 3.85, they have banks here in the US and as soon as it's populated we can go to THOSE banks and do an exchange, as I understand it. The process has started and I don't know how long it will take. I hope to get additional info while on this call.

T - Info just received: the world banking systems are updating as we speak and we should go today. I'm waiting for notification and I still want Okie to announce it here in the USA. We're delayed by a couple of hours from what we were told last night. it is going through and being done as we speak. I still don't think 3.85 is going to be our rate. That's what a whole lot of the discussion was last night. I think we'll get our $32, which is what is showing on the screens.

T - Everybody should be ecstatic and happy. We just have to find out (1) either the other countries get populated and I can come back from the bank and tell you which ones, or (2) our own 800#s should be out. Supposedly this is to take mere minutes - somebody is getting paid today. I'm just not sure how far I have to drive to get to the other banks.

TONY IS READING MESSAGES JUST COMING IN NOW...

T - I know it's exciting but there are more questions than I have answers. It is going on and the IMF did release the rates to the other countries at 3.85. We don't know what our rate will be until we hear from the UST. The 3.85 will be available at the banks from other countries today. Give me a little time to get more info and I'll send out a blast and a tweet and I'll come back on the call later.

T- I'm going to get the rest of the info and we'll come back, probably within the hour, because things are moving that fast. Let's save this time and reschedule another later.

END OF CALL.
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Tonys morning call 10 mins

Tony  

 Some meetings took place last night & yesterday morning regarding last minute decisions & different directions some want.  They didn't give us 800's this morning when they could have.  Here's the story...15 - 20 - 30 minutes ago the IMF actually released the rates and released the RV.  They didn't have a lot of choices to do that.  Iraq TV is announcing it and there are announcements in Mosques explaining to them that the 3 zero notes will be discontinued effective 1/1/14. They need to turn them all in or they will be worthless
As of right now this moment the IMF has released the rate internationally at $3.85. I do know in 6 countries it has been released at $3.85.   It is being populated in all countries world wide except the USA. The 800 #'s have not been released yet  but shouldn't be that long...today or tomorrow AM.   Other countries are verifying they do have it and are sending it out to their banks now. Bottom line - those countries have banks here in the US and as soon as it's populated we can go to those banks and get it exchanged.

The process has started.   We do have one bank here in the USA who has verified that the rate is about 7 cents here but it is growing.  It should go today as the world banking systems are being updated as we speak.   I don't think $3.85 is our rate, I feel we'll still get our $32.  The $32+ is still on the bank screens.  We are ready to go.   Everybody should be ecstatic.  Give me some more time to get more info and I'll do a blast when I get it

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Judge deals blow to NSA phone data program

Published December 16, 2013
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A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency's bulk collection of phone records likely violates the Constitution, in a major setback for the controversial spy agency.
U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon granted a preliminary injunction sought by plaintiffs Larry Klayman and Charles Strange. However, he also stayed his decision "pending appeal," giving the U.S. government time to fight the decision over the next several months.
The judge wrote that he expects the government to "prepare itself to comply with this order when, and if, it is upheld."
The ruling was the first major legal defeat for the NSA since former contractor Edward Snowden began exposing secrets about the NSA's data collection over the summer.
"We've seen the opinion and are studying it," the Justice Department said in a brief statement after the decision. "We believe the program is constitutional as previous judges have found. We have no further comment at this time."
Leon granted the injunction sought by plaintiffs Larry Klayman and Charles Strange, concluding they were likely to prevail in their constitutional challenge. Leon, an appointee of former President George W. Bush, ruled that the two men are likely to be able to show that their privacy interests outweigh the government's interest in collecting the data. Leon says that means the massive collection program is an unreasonable search under the Constitution's Fourth Amendment.
"The Fourth Amendment typically requires 'a neutral and detached authority be interposed between the police and the public,' and it is offended by 'general warrants' and laws that allow searches to be conducted 'indiscriminately and without regard to their connections with a crime under investigation,'" he wrote.
He added: "I cannot imagine a more 'indiscriminate' and 'arbitrary invasion' than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every single citizen for purposes of querying and analyzing it without prior judicial approval. Surely such a program infringes on 'that degree of privacy' that the founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment. Indeed I have little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison, who cautioned us to beware 'the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power,' would be aghast."
The Obama administration has defended the program as a crucial tool against terrorism.
But in his a 68-page, heavily footnoted opinion, Leon concluded that the government didn't cite a single instance in which the program "actually stopped an imminent terrorist attack."
"I have serious doubts about the efficacy of the metadata collection program as a means of conducting time-sensitive investigations in cases involving imminent threats of terrorism," he added.
He entered an order to bar the government from collecting "any telephony metadata associated with their personal Verizon accounts" and requiring the government to "destroy any such metadata in its possession" collected through the program.
He said was staying his ruling pending appeal "in light of the significant national security interests at stake in this case and the novelty of the constitutional issues."

Fox News' Jake Gibson and The Associated Press contributed to this report. 

2011 nuclear terror perpetrators in Japan to be included in ongoing Asian purge of cabal flunkies

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2011 nuclear terror perpetrators in Japan to be included in ongoing Asian purge of cabal flunkies

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The execution last week of North Korean number 2 Jang Song Thaek and the arrest of former China security chief Zhou Yongkang mark the beginning of a purge of cabal influence in Asia, according to Chinese and North Korean sources. The purge has been long planned and will lead to the ouster of over 20,000 people, according to a Chinese government source. The purge will include the faction in Japan that aided and abetted the 311 nuclear and tsunami mass murder and terror attack, according to Japanese right wing groups.
A similar purge is planned for the United States and Europe, according to military and gnostic illuminati sources. The problem in the US is concentrated in New York and Washington D.C. and it may be necessary to cut off all communications between those cities and the outside world in order to force them to arrest the mass murderers hiding in their midst. We are all growing impatient. For operational security reasons there is a lot we cannot say about this but public arrests of known mass murderers will take place.
In Europe, the P2 freemason lodge is planning to send a top official to Asia in order to try to negotiate an end to the ongoing financial crisis. He will be offered all safety and comfort during his trip to Japan and the Philippines so long as he does not do anything criminal.
Getting back to Asia, the North Korean purge is being carried out according to a detailed plan left by Kim Jong Il before he died, according to Chinese government sources. The plan aims to remove all Rothschild family and other cabal influence from that country. In institutional terms it is the military acting against a group centered on the foreign and financial ministries in North Korea, according to Chinese and North Korean agents in Japan. These groups were cooperating with the Rothschilds and other cabal families in a plan to collapse the North Korean economy in order to remove the Kim dynasty. The official North Korean news agency article about the execution of Jang is worth reading directly:
Take particular note of this sentence: “he schemed to drive the economy of the country and people’s living into an uncontrollable catastrophe.”
The plot to crash the economy described in that article is typical cabal modus operandi: create an economic crisis then appear as a savior by offering a way out. In Japanese it is called Match/Pump. You set a fire with a match and then appear to be a hero by using the water pump to put it out.
In any case, the ongoing purge will almost certainly destroy many lives and remove all Rothschild/Bush influence from East Asia.
This purge is being paralleled in South Korea where Goldman Sachs is being evicted from the financial system they illegally occupied after the engineered Asian financial crisis of 1997.
The Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Bushes etc. are still causing trouble in Japan but some strong action will be taken against their agents here as well. Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has repeatedly refused to meet with White Dragon Family representatives and has instead being following cabal orders by trying to provoke war in East Asia. Abe also refused to announce a major humanitarian campaign to end poverty and stop environmental destruction despite being asked to do so by the Imperial family. A powerful Japanese right wing group is planning to send him a clear warning soon to either fall in line or be removed.
Neil Keenan reports that US Vice President Biden has been in South Korea demanding rights to gold that is there. He will not get it. This writer was once sent on a mission to South Korea to find that gold by a Japanese tycoon who turned out to be an agent of David Rockefeller. The South Koreans saw through this ruse and refused to allow access to ancient imperial Korean dynastic gold hidden in that country.
In China as well, the removal of former security chief Zhou Yongkang is a sign of a purge taking place there of Cabal/Maoist influence, according to a Chinese government source.
In the meanwhile, as time goes on, the situation for cabal controlled regions like Europe and Washington D.C. is getting worse and worse.
Last week UN Secretary General and cabal stooge Ban Ki Moon promised the P2 freemason lodge he would deliver $400 billion to bail out the Italian financial system, according to P2 sources. He came up empty handed. Instead riots are spreading throughout Italy as more and more Italians are waking up to the fascist fraud known as the European Central Bank.
A source in Holland also said last week that Dutch employees at the European Union headquarters had been told their jobs would be terminated at the end of 2014 and the Euro would be dissolved.
In the UK meanwhile, Goldman Sachs threatened to shut down its operations in London if the UK did not go along with the EU fascist plans. Message to Goldman Sachs: “good riddance, we will kick you in the arse on your way out.”
In the United States too there are good signs as well as bad. One good sign is the appearance in the New York Post of an article giving detailed, specific evidence of Saudi Arabian government involvement in the 911 mass murder.
The fact that it appeared in a traditional media outlet is important because they Post is legally responsible for what they write. It means that there is now on the table a legally valid reason for the Pentagon to take military action against the Saudi regime. The Russians also have a similar justification. Taking out the Saudi regime would destroy Bush family financial influence and deal a mortal blow to the Nazi/Zionist faction.
One of the bad signs is a big move by Zionist forces to scuttle the peace deal with Iran. Another is the continued, brazen public appearance of so many criminals known to be associated with the 911 terror attack and other incidents of mass murder of innocent civilians. Why aren’t these people being publicly handcuffed in front of the TV cameras? What is wrong with the United States and its military and law enforcement?
It may be necessary to send military forces into New York and Washington D.C. in order to arrest all the known criminals there. Perhaps the Canadian, British, Japanese, Russian and Chinese governments can issue a joint ultimatum to the American military and justice officials: “arrest the murderers or we will do it for you.”
There will also be a need to shut down all the mega bank computers in order to erase the astronomical (quintillions or more) numbers of fraudulent dollars they contain.
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Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

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The ruling is the first significant legal setback for the NSA’s surveillance program. | AP Photo
A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency program which collects information on nearly all telephone calls made to, from or within the United States is likely unconstitutional.
U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon found that the program appears to violate the Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches and seizures. He also said the Justice Department had failed to demonstrate that collecting the information had helped to head off terrorist attacks.

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Acting on a lawsuit brought by conservative legal activist Larry Klayman, Leon issued a preliminary injunction barring the NSA from collecting so-called metadata pertaining to the Verizon accounts of Klayman and one of his clients. However, the judge stayed the order to allow for an appeal.
“I cannot imagine a more ‘indiscriminate’ and ‘arbitrary invasion’ than this systematic and high-tech collection and retention of personal data on virtually every single citizen for purposes of querying it and analyzing it without judicial approval,” wrote Leon, an appointee of President George W. Bush.
The preliminary injunction Leon granted Monday does not require him to make a definitive ruling on the constitutional questions in the case, but does take account of which side he believes is more likely to prevail.
Leon’s 68-page opinion is the first significant legal setback for the NSA’s surveillance program since it was disclosed in June in news stories based on leaks from former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. For seven years, the metadata program has been approved repeatedly by numerous judges on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court and found constitutional by at least one judge sitting in a criminal case.
The Justice Department persuaded those courts that the collection of information on the time and length of calls, as well as the numbers called, did not amount to a search under the Fourth Amendment because that information is routinely available to telephone companies for billing purposes and is shared with those firms voluntarily.
Government lawyers and the judges who found the NSA program legal pointed to a 1979 Supreme Court ruling, Smith v. Maryland, which found no search warrant was needed by police to install a device which recorded the numbers dialed on a particular phone line.
But Leon said the three-decade-old precedent was not applicable to a program like the NSA’s because of its sophistication and because telephone use has become far more intense in recent years.
“The ubiquity of phones has dramatically altered the quantity of information that is now available and, more importantly, what that information can tell the Government about people’s lives,” the judge wrote. “I cannot possibly navigate these uncharted Fourth Amendment waters using as my North Star a case that predates the rise of cell phones.”
The judge went on to conclude that the searches involved in the NSA metadata program were likely not permissible under the Fourth Amendment in part because there was little evidence the program has actually prevented terrorism.
“I have significant doubts about the efficacy of the metadata collection program as a means of conducting time-sensitive investigations in cases involving imminent threats of terrorism,” Leon wrote. “The government does not cite a single instance in which analysis of the NSA’s bulk metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack, or otherwise aided the Government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive in nature.”
The judge’s ruling was issued just before White House press secretary Jay Carney took the podium for the daily press briefing. Carney said he was unaware of the decision and he referred inquiries to the Justice Department.
“We are reviewing the court’s decision,” DOJ spokesman Andrew Ames said.
Similar lawsuits challenging the program are pending in at least three other federal courts around the country. In addition, criminal defendants are beginning to challenge the program after the Justice Department disclosed it had played a role in investigating their cases.
Critics of the NSA program leapt on Leon’s decision as evidence that the legal foundation of the surveillance effort is deeply flawed.
“The ruling underscores what I have argued for years: The bulk collection of Americans’ phone records conflicts with Americans’ privacy rights under the U.S. Constitution and has failed to make us safer,” Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.) said in a statement urging passage of legislation ending the so-called bulk collection program. “We can protect our national security without trampling our constitutional liberties,” he added.
At a hearing last month, Leon said he knew that his decision would be far from the last word on the issue, which is almost certain to wind up at the Supreme Court.
However, he added some flair to his opinion Monday, referring at one point to the Beatles and at another to Federalist Papers author James Madison, who later became president.
“Surely, such a program infringes on ‘that degree of privacy’ that the Founders enshrined in the Fourth Amendment. Indeed, I have little doubt that the author of our Constitution, James Madison, who cautioned us to beware ‘the abridgement of freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments by those in power’ would be aghast,” the judge wrote.


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Mysterious Disappearences, National Parks, and the Break Away Civilization – Evidence of Batch Consignments?

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Mysterious Disappearences, National Parks, and the Break Away Civilization – Evidence of Batch Consignments?
Posted By: RobDaven [Send E-Mail]
Date: Monday, 16-Dec-2013 15:05:34

One of the things which has always perplexed me about the Break Away Civilization concept was what is called “Batch Consignments.”
Batch Consignments was a term used in Alternative Three to describe the movement of individuals offworld for use as slave labor to construct the basis needed on the Moon and Mars. The idea was to use what was effectively slave labor as a commodity work force for construction of these bases.
On the surface the idea seems quiet reprehensible, people being forcibly relocated and forced to perform slave labor, but then again we are dealing with a group which does not necessarily hold human life in high regard, but it does make sense. It is cheaper to use slave labor then to use a skilled group of people to perform any task.
So here’s the problem – How do you prove that Batch Consignments exist? A relatively large workforce would be needed, the work would be grueling and the mortality rate would probably be high due to accidents, overwork and other causes. So you would need a constant supply of new people being kidnapped to provide the labor force. So where do you get large numbers of people over a long term? The answer, at least in part, may surprise you.
Ever year thousands of people go missing under mysterious circumstances. Accidents, murder, and many other reasons can provide the context. Recently we’ve heard stories about people kidnapped who spent decades in captivity before escaping to tell their story, but there are others which actually defy logic and those are the ones I will focus on in part.
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