Waco Siege:
What Really Happened and Why
April 20, 2013
http://www.infowars.com/waco-siege-what-really-happened-and-why/
The ground breaking film Waco: A New Revelation is being re-released to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the Branch Davidians massacre that happened outside of Waco, Texas. This is the film that triggered a new Special Counsel investigation of the Waco tragedy, and caused the Justice Department and the FBI to reverse their long-held position on Waco. It generated a firestorm of events unprecedented in the history of documentary film making.
Learn what really happened and why. http://copsproductions.com/
After six years of painstaking investigation, the complete story of the tragedy near Waco is finally coming to light. This compelling feature-length documentary presents new revelations about the events that led up to the deaths of 79 men, women and children at Mount Carmel on April 19, 1993.
COPS Productions Blog # 6
First, a little history…always a good way to begin thoughts like these.
One hundred and seventy-five years ago another “religious” group was despised by howling mobs of ‘citizens’. They were hounded by the ‘citizens’ government and in the process of being driven out of the United States of America, a part of this group of “religious nuts,” men, women and children, were accosted by mounted state militia men who were bent on executing the state government’s “extermination Order.” The militiamen rounded the male members up, locked them in a chink-log grist mill, dismounted and pushed their ‘assault rifles’ through the gaps in the walls and fired, volley after volley. Scores were killed or wounded.
Han’s Mill Oct 30,
1838
This was known as the “Han’s Mill
Massacre,” the group of “religious nuts” were called Mormons. Today’s Mormons
are want not to talk about this part of their history. Many aren’t even aware
of it. It took an additional 137 years to regain some respectability in the
national community, but, even today you can find rabid anti-Mormons spewing
their hatred of this “group of religious nuts,” these “cultists,” on the
streets surrounding the Mormon’s world headquarters on Temple Square in Salt
Lake City.I don’t understand this kind of hate. When I witnessed the burning of the Branch Davidian church, or “compound” as the FBI called it, on April 19, 1993, the thought crossed my mind, are these people really what the government claims them to be? Or, was this another Hans Mill? I, like so many millions of other Americans that day, had no idea of who those people were. What was certain was they were dead, all the men, women and children save nine adults out of almost 100 souls. I spent the next 19 years trying to find out who these people were, why and how they died and who were the people outside the “Compound,” claiming they wanted the Davidians to come out, but doing their damnedest to kill them.
It’s funny, I never could find those “evil sons of bitches” that were inside the building that day. But I did find a lot of folks that were there that didn’t do their sworn duty and bring all of those inside out, safely, to stand before the bar of justice. Some of those, that were outside that day were actually cowards and ran and hid. Many more were vengeful, and thought the Davidians were getting exactly what they deserved. Then there were those that had the real responsibility for the day’s events. A few of these were Davidans, most were FBI agents and Military people. The nine surviving Davidans were all arrested, tried and sent to prison for their alleged complicity in the Davidian massacre. Not a single Federal agent, FBI, BATF, nor Military operator were ever really investigated as individuals, nor tried, nor convicted for their parts in this mass homicide.
So, who were those guys?
Mt. Carmel, Waco
Texas, April 19, 1993.
So who were these Branch Davidans, and why
did they choose the path they went down as a group and as individuals? Well,
those are their stories to tell. I’m only aware of one book by a Davidian
survivor, it’s interesting, but far from forthcoming about the actual events
that transpired inside Mt. Carmel that 19th Day of April, 1993. I have spent a
good deal of time with 8-12 of these surviving Davidians, including several
that came out during the 51 day siege and weren’t there the day of the fire. I
can tell you; these folks are not what the government describes as “crazy,
religious nuts.” For the most part, they are very much like us. The government
acted as an 8th century barbarian horde and burned the Davidians alive as
“social Heretics,” at the “stake” the feds called the compound …with their
children. The claim that David Koresh was solely responsible for starting the
fire- is not an accurate statement. In fact, members of the FBI Hostage Rescue
team and operators from “B” squadron of the Combat Applications Group of FT
Bragg North Carolina, under orders of the President of the United States, were
the executioners that day. The evidence for this claim is found in the film,
“Waco- A New Revelation” and the “FLIR Project.” Please watch them and decide
for yourself. (Order information is available at the end of this blog entry).It was all about control…”Gun Control”
Confiscated Assault
Weapons
Why all this history? In the early fall of
1995 my team and I visited and interviewed Dr. Allan Stone at Harvard University
near Boston, Massachusetts. Dr. Stone was the psychologist hired by the Justice
Department to prove the case against the Davidians. The DOJ was looking for
scientific proof that the Davidans were a dangerous, heavily armed, religious
cult – just as the FBI had described them, over and over again in all of their
multitudinous “press briefings.” Dr. Stone started the interview with a
profound observation…” In order to understand what happened at Waco you had to
understand, not only the cult inside the ‘compound,’ but the cult outside of
the compound as well.” Dr. Stones’ observation of the BATF and the FBI as a
“cult” turned out to be right on the money. Please understand, the good Doctor
never agreed with many of our conclusions as to the course of events on April
the 19th. He simply defended the federal agencies as not being capable of such
atrocious acts of barbarity. Watch the films, made with BATF and FBI footage
and decide for yourself.
FLIR Project Cover Art
So, why is the Davidian massacre relevant today and why should it be meaningful to us, law abiding Citizens? Simply because of Obama’s reaction to the Sandyhook school tragedy; there may be more Wacos as citizens and some Law Enforcement decide to resist unconstitutional restrictions on the right to keep Bear Arms. None of Obama’s actions would have prevented Sandyhook. Obama’s Executive Orders and congressional legislation would take guns by force from citizens who had committed no crime at Sandyhook or any other shooting and may in fact have used their own gun to protect themselves and their families as is done a million times a year in the United States because when seconds count, the police are still minutes away.
Many people know about Waco, but few know that all those federal agents were there not because children were in danger, not because Koresh was a wanted criminal or criminally insane, but to seize the Davidians guns for alleged violation of gun laws. Anti-gun laws were the reason for the Waco tragedy and the death of dozens of men, women and children in a hail of gun fire, some from snipers, military tanks that demolished the Davidian’s home, incendiaries that started the fire that burned their home to the ground and explosives that were intended to kill Koresh, but killed many of the mothers and all of the children instead.
ATF arriving at Mt.
Carmel 2-28-93 Details in Blog #2
ATF Agents making
dynamic entry at Mt Carmel 2-28-93. Details in Blog #2
Sniper posing with
Davidian corpse. Details in Blog #3.5
FBI operated tank
knocks down burning building at Mt Carmel 4-19-93 Details in Blog #2
Lab Pic of recovered
FBI 40mm PSM – Incendiary Flash Bang round. Details found in Blog #3
Blast hole in vault
where mothers and children sought shelter. Details found in Blog #3.5
Remains of eighteen
month old child disarticulated by explosives on vault roof. Details found in
Blog #3
THE COST OF GUN CONTROL ENFORCEMENT FAILURE
Seven Davidians,
including Michael Schroder, died the first day. Details found in Blog #3.
Four ATF agents died
and twenty one were wounded after the raid commander found out that the element
of suprise had been lost, but went ahead with the raid anyway. Details found in
Blog #2
Will People resist bad laws as our Founding Fathers did?
3%ers flag –
Contemproary symbol of resistance.
Will the Government press their
enforcement of an Assault Weapons or magazine ban or universal gun
registration to the degree of creating more Waco’s? How would the public
respond to such a debacle? If the government shows up at your door, what should
you do?“RESISTANCE?” An appropriate question.
A Nationally known Conservative public figure recently has asked his supporters on two separate occasions, to take the higher road – do as Martin Luther King , Jesus and Gandhi did – take the non-violent path to the higher moral plain. I have pointed out to this fellow that, while doing so is certainly morally admirable. Saying, “We have chosen to resist your unconstitutional law and enforcement actions – arrest us and take us off to jail!” And filling those facilities to over flowing, sounds like the true path of King/Gandhian non-violent protest…it is fatally flawed in the execution of events and will probably get some people killed. Here’s why.
Getting from your front door to standing in front of a judge while shackled can be a tricky process. Ask the surviving Davidians just how difficult it was to get their day in court…watch “Waco- A New Revelation” and understand that the Davidian leader, David Koresh presented himself at the front door of his home with empty hands held up in supplication and said, “Wait! There are women and children inside, let’s talk.” The ATF’s answer was the shooting of the Branch Davidian dogs and shooting Koresh before anything else could be said. The problem lies within the emotional dynamics of how law enforcement, ALL law enforcement, approaches the presentation of a search and arrest warrant on suspicion of violation of firearms laws, AKA Gun Control enforcement. They always execute these warrants either as a “knock warrant” where who they are and what they are there for is ‘announced’ with a knock at the door followed by the door being taken down with a battering ram or a demo charge. The so-called “no-knock” warrants simply eliminates the announcement and knock at the door.
When this type of “entry” is gained by the law enforcement officers there is an assumption that the subjects in the residence or place of business are “armed and dangerous” simply because they are armed…everyone inside is a suspect and will be man handled at the point of a gun. If family pets are, in the officers sole opinion, in the way or pose a threat, they will be dispatched, stomped on, kicked sprayed with a CO2 bottle or shot, as were the Davidian dogs at their master’s front door. The sight of seeing your front door being violently breached, your dog’s shot and your wife and children being thrown against the wall and forced to the floor will inspire most men to deliver a defensive response that will get you killed in most cases. So “resisting” an unjust law and its unwarranted violent enforcement can present some very difficult questions. It just aint as simple as talking your way out of a confrontation and trotting out your attorney in front of the judge to argue the Constitutionality of it all. You can’t call your lawyer, or anyone, at this point in the process. There are numerous stories of people killed in their own home after police “announced themselves” to people who were asleep in their beds until their doors were broken down by strangers in the dark of night. Here is one brief example of one such fiasco http://www.myspace.com/paleness23mn/blog/415677957#! .
There are many law enforcement officers who have now, publicly stated that they will not enforce an unconstitutional Assault Weapons and /or magazine ban. I, for one, think there will be a large number of Officers who will be principled enough to take that stand. However, there will be large numbers of officers who either disagree with that position or are afraid of losing their jobs if they don’t “enforce” the law and let the courts decide who’s right or wrong. So what to do about those that see enforcing the law, right or wrong, as their only choice.
The Law of Unintended Consequences
You have to make some choices. Is this principle worth dying for? I think it is, but – the question is when and where do you make that kind of stand; on your front porch with your wife and children in the line of fire? I’m not suggesting that there aren’t alternatives to marching down to the police station and turning in your guns and having yourself photographed and finger printed like a common criminal. However, if you choose to “resist,” pick and choose your fight wisely! If you choose to “fight it out” through the judicial system, you should safe guard your weapons, arrange your peaceful surrender to the Feds with your friendly sheriff and your attorney, refuse to surrender your weapons- do it in front of a bank of TV and radio cameras and microphones, be booked, arranged and secure bail, so as to fight the next several months in a court of law. The Davidians and David Koresh were NOT given that option. This is a way to go about this difficult dilemma in a peaceful and lawful way.
Then there are other scenarios. When I interviewed Steven Berry, Staff Sargent, Sniper/Trainer for the Combat Applications group of Fort Bragg, North Carolina, AKA “Delta Force.” The subject of the Davidians intent the day the BATF came a calling was discussed. Berry noted that if the Federal authorities were correct in their assumption that the Davidians “laid an ambush” that morning of February 28, 1993, then the Davidians didn’t do what would have been tactically logical in a military operation, if the intent was to kill all the agents – Berry said the Davidians should have shot all of them while they were bunched up in the cattle trailers that brought them onto the property. Further, if the Davidians intent had been to “kill em ‘ all, and let God sort them out”, (an infamous motto attributed to Delta and other Special Forces units, originated by Simon de Montfort), then, the Davidians would not have allowed the BATF to call a cease-fire, and withdraw with their dead and wounded when the agents ran out of ammunition…if it was the Davidians intent to kill all the agents, they would have done so then and there. The jury that tried the surviving Davidans found the facts to be just so. The Davidians were acquitted of conspiracy to murder federal agents and the murder of the agents. The jury did find the Davidans guilty of Manslaughter. It’s noteworthy that the federal judge in the case, Walter Smith turned the jury’s verdict on its head and found them Guilty of Murder and committing the crime while in possession of a “machine gun, ” adding twenty years to each of the defendants sentence. Later, years later, the Supreme Court unanimously vacated twenty years off of their sentences because Judge Smith was not allowed to sentence them in that fashion, only the jury could do that, which they did not. Again this was years after the events transpired and not a single Federal authority has ever been charged, much less convicted of the several crimes committed against the Davidans and their children, now some 20 years later.
I relate this story, not because I support this kind of resistance. I think it would be hard to justify this type of action at the outset of any hostilities between Citizens and Federal authorities and difficult for the average citizen to pull off from a tactical point of view. However, if the federal authorities persist in this kind of approach, in fact, if they take your constitutional freedom away from you at the point of a gun and the threat of death, thus enacting open warfare upon its own citizens- this could provoke the ‘only response’ acceptable within the concept of lawful self-defense, and thus the underpinnings of Civil War would be laid and chaos would ensue., and God help us all!
Thank God – there’s still time to think about it…but the time for wisdom is quickly being supplanted by the time of needed courage to act.
But, thank God this hasn’t happened yet, with the only exception being Waco, 1993. I pray the Authorities will understand their duty to the Constitution and their responsibility to us all not to over-react in the instances where they are charged with taking citizens into lawful custody so as to answer charges in a court of law, certainly never to do again as was done at Waco, Texas. More Waco’s will not be tolerated! If the authorities fail to do their sworn duty and execute proper warrants in a lawful fashion, ALL BETS ARE OFF! They will suffer the consequences of being wrong, both intended and unintended as will those of us that are caught in the cross fire of unconstitutional law, those that sent the officers to execute on it and those that have supported such an outrageous act upon the People may be targeted as perpetrators of tyranny.
So, my friends think long and hard about what you want to do. Watch the films, several times and then ponder the possibilities. Then choose the right course of action for yourself and your family. May God guide us all in our deliberations, may He grant us the courage to choose the Right. May he guide the courses of our leaders, our law enforcement officers and may He confuse and confound the enemies of the Constitution and the People.
How to get the Films
Want to see these films and decide for yourself? We have decided to re-release two of the Waco films. If your a state-side buyer, you can order a copy of the two DVD set featuring “Waco- a New Revelation” and “The FLIR Project.” The cost is $19.95 + shipping and Handling of $6.75 for a total of $26.74. Special Note: If your ordering from Canada, please add $14.35 for additional mailing costs, for a total of $41.05, no over seas shipments. Payment can be made by hitting the Pay Pal- “Pay Now” button below*. Select the number of sets you want. Up to five units will require the same amount for shipping and handling, except to Canada. If you would prefer, you can pay with a money order. Send your order request to the e-mail address, copsfilms@gmail.com and instructions will be given. The Pay Pal method will take 5-7 business days to receive your films by USPS Priority Mail. If you opt for the Money Order method it will take 8 to 14 business days to receive your film set as mail passes back and forth.
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