Late Monday Night Jester and Friends Chat

Late Monday Night Jester and Friends Chat

09/02/2014

Jester’s Place:

[pollyp] DiddyKong, so this week NATO summit, Europe and Russia becoming Freinemies, Russia and China in the biggest pipeline project in history, Germany wanting their property back. What did I miss?

[DiddyKong] pollyp pretty much it. This is going to be a tell-tell week

[Jester] EVERYONE... HOPE EVERYONE HAD A HAPPY LABOR DAY...

[jojill] Jester...is the operative word still "clogged"?

[Jester] jojill HMMM... GOOD A WORD AS ANY FOR NOW I SUPPOSE...
....

[DiddyKong] the Republic is the people, not the government. If people do not stand by the Republic, it is not just going to come to them. It is like having a dream or a goal, but expecting a fairy god mother to grant it to you……people have to realize that they hold the true power of democracy. It is the fear of the government and other forces that gives that power to the government/elites

[DiddyKong] I want to be quiet now lol. Jester is in the room. I do not want to steal time away from him.

[Jester] DiddyKong NO IT'S FINE TO CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION... IT WAS A GOOD ONE...

[DiddyKong] Jester ok, that is pretty much it for me. Just a bit a speculation and what we hopefully could expect from the NATO meeting. Trying to explain why these expectations exist based on events that have happened in the past and trying to chronolize everything for everyone lol

[vote4rv] hey jester there seems to be reports that cards have been utilized by Iraqi citizens at the new rate. My question is whether the CBI has to continue to sell Dinar at the old rate until the new rate is officially international? If the CBI stops selling then we should see the Dinar dealers eventually stop selling as they run out of supply??

[Jester] vote4rv THOSE CARDS HAVE BEEN REPORTED MANY TIMES OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS... HERE IS WHERE I JUST DON'T SEE WHAT IS DIFFERENT NOW EXCEPT THAT EVERYONE HAS BEEN WAITING LONGER... THE CBI CAN DO WHATEVER IT WILL LIKE... THEY DO NOT SELL DINAR BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO THEY SELL IT TO GET THE DOLLARS... THEY SPEND EASIER FOR WHAT THEY ARE USING THEM FOR...

[DiddyKong] Jester to use your words, "Things are still processing" and I expect to see something huge to possibly occur in the process soon. All eyes on Germany's/France's actions after the NATO meeting

[Jester] DiddyKong WELL THERE ARE TWO OPTIONS IN MY OPINION... THINGS REMAIN STATUS QUO... OR THINGS START TO REALIGN IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION TOTALLY AS THE PLAYERS CHOOSE WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE IT LOOKS LIKE THE BALL WILL END UP ON...

Jester] DiddyKong GERMANY HAS ALREADY BEEN HINTING AT THE DIRECTION THEY ARE LEANING...

[DiddyKong] Jester I agree with you. It is all exciting and nerve wrecking to finally see it all become apparent and public

[oxglove] Jester and when they go, so long goes the euro

[Jester] NOT SURE FRANCE IS ANYTHING BUT FOLLOWING GERMANY... HAHAHAHAH

[DiddyKong] Jester and that is the house of cards I was referring to earlier with the EU. If other nations see this from Germany and France.... well.... there goes that ship

[DiddyKong] 2 options..... 1 choice..... what will it be U.S.

[Jester] DiddyKong ISN'T THAT THE TRUTH... GERMANY IS THE UNSPOKEN LEADER... MAYBE EVEN OUTSPOKEN... BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THEY ARE THE ONES THAT WILL STEER...

[vote4rv] when is the GCR for dummies book going to come out so we can make sense of all this and check things off? Haha

[Jester] DiddyKong ALSO A GOOD QUESTION... ESPECIALLY SINCE IT IS APPARENT THAT OBOOBOOB HAS NOT PLANS EXCEPT FOR GOLFING... HAHAHAHAH

[DiddyKong] Jester it gives me the chills from excitement. I can only imagine what people that are actually in the know and part of the process must feel

[Jester] vote4rv WE HAVE TOLD YOU NEARLY EVERYTHING WE KNOW ABOUT WHAT TO WATCH FOR AND HOW TO SEE IT... THE BIG PICTURE IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES IN LIVING COLOR AT THIS POINT...

[DiddyKong] At the same time.... the U.S. must maintain composure in front of its people. Can't have people rioting in the streets now lol. November is around the corner

[kristi] Jester and DiddyKong: Isn't tomorrow the start of the new Breton Woods meeting? Could that be significant? I am not sure who is attending that meeting.

[DiddyKong] kristi ? Didn't know there was a meeting tomorrow. 2014 Bretton Woods Committee International Council Meeting Thu, Oct 9, 2014   http://www.brettonwoods.org/event/2014-10-09-0000/2014-bretton-woods-committee-international-council-meeting

[kristi] Here is the agenda: It starts the 3rd. Prospects for the world’s foreign exchange system; Future of finance and financial institutions; Technology and the future of the international financial system; How to anticipate and manage future crises better; The future of sovereign debt restructuring; The future role of the IMF and World Bank; and History and leadership at Bretton Woods in 1944.

[DiddyKong] kristi link?

[kristi]    http://www.centerforfinancialstability.org/bw2014_topics.php

[Jester] I FEEL SORRY FOR THE ONES WITH THE CLOSED EYES..... I WILL BE THE FIRST TO SAY I LOVE AMERICA... BUT YOU NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT THE CORPORATION AND GOVERNMENTAL BS THAT HAS GONE ON AND WHY I SAY THEY HAVE BULLIED THE REST OF THE WORLD BEFORE YOU CAN POSSIBLY FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU NEED TO DO ABOUT IT... AND IF YOU TRULY LOVE AMERICA THEN YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THIS IN ORDER TO ACT ON IT...

[Jester]    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqIHKWd9rSc

[DiddyKong] Jester awesome. I watching that after this chat while I eat my bed time dinner snack lol

[Jester] DiddyKong IT HAS BEEN AROUND A WHILE... IT DETAILS THE SITUATIONS THAT THE CORPORATIONS TARGETED WITH THE HELP OF THE GOVERNMENT TO PUT THESE COUNTRIES IN DEBT TO CONTROL THEM...

[DiddyKong] Jester it is interesting when you think about how everyday people are just finding, and comparing that to the people "in the know" and what they have been and are doing about it

[Jester] DiddyKong WELL... A FEW YEARS AGO I WOULD HAVE BEEN JUST AS IRRITATED AT SOMEONE SAYING WHAT I DID... BUT NOW I KNOW WHY I WAS IN NORWAY, WALES, AND GERMANY THAT THEY HAVE SUCH A LOW OPINION OF US... BASICALLY THEY ARE MUCH MORE INFORMED ABOUT THE STUFF WE HAVE DONE THAN WE ARE... UNFORTUNATELY... OR WE WOULD HAVE NEVER PUT UP WITH IT FOR A MINUTE...

[Jester] VOTING FOR WHAT YOU CAN GET OUT OF IT INSTEAD OF FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COUNTRY IS NOT THE WAY TO VOTE...

DiddyKong] Jester ain't that the truth..... the very sad truth that is....

[Jester] DiddyKong LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ABOUT THAT TOMORROW...

[pollyp] Jester, that was the purpose of the Rense plan, no? To keep us ignorant

[Jester] I THINK YOU WILL GET A LOT OUT OF IT... ACTUALLY ANYONE WILL THAT WATCHES IT...

[Jester] According to his book, Perkins' function was to convince the political and financial leadership of underdeveloped countries to accept enormous development loans from institutions like the World Bank and USAID. Saddled with debts they could not hope to pay, those countries were forced to acquiesce to political pressure from the United States on a variety of issues.

Perkins argues in his book that developing nations were effectively neutralized politically, had their wealth gaps driven wider and economies crippled in the long run. In this capacity Perkins recounts his meetings with some prominent individuals, including Graham Greene and Omar Torrijos.

Perkins describes the role of an EHM as follows: Economic hit men (EHMs) are highly-paid professionals who cheat countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars. They funnel money from the World Bank, the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), and other foreign "aid" organizations into the coffers of huge corporations and the pockets of a few wealthy families who control the planet's natural resources.

Their tools included fraudulent financial reports, rigged elections, payoffs, extortion, sex, and murder. They play a game as old as empire, but one that has taken on new and terrifying dimensions during this time of globalization.

[Jester] NOT THE AMERICA I WILL LIKE TO REMEMBER... WE MUST DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS...

 

Jester] WE CAN DISCUSS THIS SOME MORE TOMORROW IF EVERYONE WILL WATCH THE MOVIE...

[Jester] YOU ALL TAKE IT EASY... HAVE A NICE EVENING...

[Jester] NIGHT NIGHT EVERYONE....

 

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CONDOR & TNT

CONDOR UPDATE, 2 SEPT

Condor: Tuesday Iraq will make announcements and 800# will be released. Tony is having a conference call with valuable updates on Tuesday. Not sure what time announcement or call will take place but Sept 2nd shaping up to be a big day. Approaching 7 am in Iraq.

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TNT:

[graciousme] BREAKING NEWS: Iraqi president calls for solidarity to fight terrorism Abadi going to announce his government's program today dated sept 2….. Iraqi political sources said a high-level, yesterday, that the Prime Minister-designate Haider Abadi may announce today his government for the next four years, which will be the successor to the presidency of the government of Prime Minister outgoing Nuri al-Maliki.

[igotit ] graciousme ... you "find" is certainly a missing piece to the RV/GCR puzzle, and in accord with many who call for currency revalues on Tuesday 02 Sept 2014!

[graciousme] oh boy I'm ready

[EvangeeGT] Is this really going down?

 [igotit ] EvangeeGT ... according to a caller on Phoenix3333/Les/Wy/BlogTalkRadio/61min mark, Exogen, Tony's tweet, graciousme's find on Iraq announcing the new GOI (above) today ... all points to 02 Sept 2014 ... of course the USA could invoke a HOLD!

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TNT Tony

TNT Tony‏@THE_TNT_TEAM 9m

Todays call will be an hour earlier. Iraq has completed all required. We wait. D.C will explain. http://InstantTeleseminar.com/?eventID=59492568 … #wearethepeople

Condor last night

Condor:

Tuesday Iraq will make announcements and 800# will be released. Tony is having a conference call with valuable updates on Tuesday. Not sure what time announcement or call will take place but Sept 2nd shaping up to be a big day. Approaching 7 am in Iraq.

Simon Black: "The Morning After: What Happens When a Government Destroys It's Currency?"

Simon Black: "The Morning After: What Happens When a Government Destroys It's Currency?"

09/01/2014

The morning after: What happens when a government destroys its currency

Sovereign Man    September 1, 2014   Dallas, Texas

Imagine this scene:

"Everyone in the country was in shock. People’s net worth had devalued more than 53% overnight.”

“The value in savings accounts dropped in half and neither merchants nor consumers knew how to react because they had never been through something like it before...”

This is how an American business executive described living through Mexico’s devaluation of the peso exactly 38 years ago on September 1, 1976.

Looking back, it was so obvious.
....

Mexico had a mounting debt, destructive policies, and a woefully unsustainable fixed exchange rate with the US dollar. All the writing was on the wall.

But most people ignored the warning signs and kept their money in pesos.

Mexican President Luis Echevarria even went out on the radio to reassure people that the currency was safe.

Finally, under intense fiscal pressure, the government reached its breaking point. And on August 31, 1976, they made the decision to devalue the peso.

People woke up the next morning on September 1st to a 50%+ decline.

Coincidentally today is also the 75th anniversary of the Nazi invasion of Poland, the event that ultimately dragged the world into war.

Germany had already invaded Austria and Czechoslovakia in the months before.

By May 1939 Hitler had stated very plainly, “the decision remains to attack Poland at the first opportunity.”

Even a week before the invasion, Hitler told his military commanders, “I have prepared . . . my 'Death's Head' formations with orders to kill without pity or mercy all men, women, and children of Polish descent or language.”

Germany had 60 divisions massed on the Polish border ready to invade.

Yet people in Poland were told to keep calm, remain in place, and have confidence in their leaders.

Finally, on August 30, the Polish government ordered a partial mobilization to meet the German threat.

Needless to say, it was too little, too late. Germany invaded only hours later.

This is a familiar story that repeats across history. Despite obvious warning signs, people almost universally allow themselves to ignore reality.

It’s human nature to want to believe that everything is going to be OK. And when our political leaders whisper soothing words of hope and optimism, we take the bait.

Looking back, it was plain as day that Mexico was going to devalue the peso. Everything about the economy and currency was totally unsustainable. Deep down people knew it.

Similarly, it was plain as day that Hitler was going to decimate Poland. And people knew it.

Yet millions allowed their confidence to be misplaced in leaders who assured them that everything was OK.

Are we so different today?

The raw numbers tell us that most banks in Europe are insolvent. Bank in the US are dangerously illiquid.

Most western governments are bankrupt. Pension and social security funds are insolvent.

Financial markets are at precarious valuations. And the dollar is beginning to unravel as the dominant reserve currency.

These are data-driven assertions. And my guess is, deep down, your instincts are also telling you that something is seriously wrong with the system.

Yet we’re all told to keep calm by our leaders. There’s nothing to see here, nothing to worry about.

Looking back, it’s all going to seem so obvious. If a major, global currency crisis hits within the next 12-months, people will think, “duh, how did I not see that coming?”

Unfortunately by then it will be too late.

It takes only a little foresight and planning to insulate yourself from an event that can have disastrous consequences.

If you knew the Mexican peso was at an unsustainable level, why would anyone continue to hold pesos?

Similarly, if all the objective data suggests that the dollar is in store for an epic decline… and that the entire world is on a path to shift away from the dollar, why in the world would any rational person base his entire life savings in dollars?

It takes little effort to actually do something about it. Hold stronger currencies overseas. Own real assets. Move your retirement account abroad where your bankrupt government can’t steal it.

These are common sense steps, just like putting on a seatbelt when you get into a car.

The time to act is now. Why play Russian roulette when the odds are clearly in favor of the house?

Don’t try to time it. Nobody has a crystal ball. It’s irrelevant whether the trend unfolds over weeks, months, or years. It’s pretty clear where this is all headed.

Until tomorrow, Simon Black   http://www.sovereignman.com/ http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/the-morning-after-what-happens-when-a-government-destroys-its-currency-14925/

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Mountain Goat

MR.A.H,I AGREE WITH YOU,BUT SOMETHING TELLS ME THE 11TH OR 15TH,THEY WILL BE FINISHED ON THE 9TH,THEN THEY WILL NEED A FEW DAYS TO PUT THIS IN THE GAZETTE,CBI WEBSITE,IMF,UST,OFFICE OF COMPTROLLER,FED.RESERVE,UN OPERATIONAL RATE OF EXCHANGE AND ALL CENTRAL BANKS,THEN,I MEAN THEN,WE SHOULD SEE THE RATES IN THE BANK,NO MORE EXCUSES.

YOU KNOW FOREX IS THE PLACE TO WATCH.

WHAT DINAR DEALER IS SELLING THE MOST

DINARS,DINARCORP,DINARBANKER,IBUYDINAR OR WWW.DINARINC.COM WHICH TAKES CREDIT CARDS AND IS OPEN LATE.WHEN I SEE THE BUY RATES GO UP THIS WEEK,I WILL KNOW WE ARE CLOSE.

> HI DINARIANS:

> 

> I KNOW MANY OF YOU THINK THAT THE REVALUATION OF CURRENCIES WILL NEVER

> OCCUR.  I GUESS SINCE WE HAVE ALL HEARD EVERY WEEK THAT IT IS GOING TO

> RV AND WE WILL BE AT THE BANKS TOMORROW, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU

> WOULD THINK THAT WAY.  I AM AS DISAPPOINTED AS ANYONE, BUT I ALWAYS

> KEEP POSITIVE KNOWING THAT IT HAS TO HAPPEN AND NOW IT IS AT THE END

> FOR SURE.  THAT YOU CAN TAKE TO THE BANK.  THERE HAVE BEEN BANKS

> DURING THE PAST FEW DAYS TELLING PEOPLE TO COME BACK TUESDAY,

> SEPTEMBER 2nd, BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN THEY WILL BE ABLE TO DO THE

> CURRENCY EXCHANGES.  SO, WE WILL EITHER HEAR BY TOMORROW MORNING THAT

> IT IS TRUE OR WE WAIT JUST A COUPLE MORE DAYS AFTER THAT.  ONE WAY OR

> ANOTHER, DOES NOT MAKE MUCH DIFFERENCE.  IT HAS BEEN WELL WORTH THE WAIT.

> 

> WELL, MNT. GOAT POSTS JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY AND SEEMS TO HAVE A HANDLE

> AS TO THE TIMELINES ON WHAT WE CAN EXPECT FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE

> GOI (GOVERNMENT OF IRAQ).  SHE SEEMS TO THINK AS YOU READ BELOW THAT SEPT. 4th.

> WILL BE THAT DAY AND THE RV ANNOUNCED JUST PRIOR TO THAT OR JUST AFTER.

> SO, ALTHOUGH WE EXPECT TO BE AT THE BANKS TOMORROW (TUESDAY) DOING OUR

> CURRENCY EXCHANGES, I GUESS IT COULD BE FRIDAY BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. 

> EITHER WAY, I DO BELIEVE BASED ON EVERYTHING WE HAVE HEARD IN THE LAST

> SEVERAL DAYS, THIS WILL BE OUR LAST WEEK OF WAITING.  READ HER ENTIRE

> POST AS SHE PUTS IT VERY WELL WHERE WE STAND.

> 

> 

> *Mnt Goat Monday Morning Update (from Sunday)- “A New Timeline”*

> <http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/mnt-goat-monday-morning-update-a-

> new-timeline>

> 

> 09/01/2014

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> 1 Comment

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> 

> *(Thank you George for sending this to Dinar Recaps Monday morning.)*

> 

> 

> UU0430 -  “A New Timeline”

> 

> Hi Everyone,

> 

> I come to you today to give you a recent update on the election

> process and how this relates towards the international rollout of the IQD for Iraq.

> 

> Note: If you have not read my previous news letter from Wednesday

> 8/27, I encourage you to first read it (*LINK

> <http://www.dinarrecaps.com/our-blog/mnt-goat-wednesday-update-part-1-of-2-moving-forward-again>*).

> Today's news letter, as in all my news letters, is a continuation of

> the ongoing saga of the IQD RV process.

> 

> Today’s News

> 

> We were expected last week to witness the announcement of the new

> Iraqi cabinet headed by Haidar al-Abadi. Today is Sunday 08/31 the

> last day of September and still no formal announcement of the fully

> formed and seated government of Iraq.  Why?

> 

> As I have said in previous news letters it is a struggle to get the

> government completed.   I have tried over the last couple weeks to show you

> the news as to what was delaying the announcement and formation of

> their government. The recent news tells you they are down to the final

> phases of assembling this government.

> 

> I will now briefly give you a quick summary of last weeks events then

> bring you to the current and proposed upcoming events for this week.

> 

> Last Week:

> 

> They have alrady targeted three previous dates to announce the fully

> formed government but as they got closer to the date they realize it

> was not going to happen and so moved to a new date. This has happened again and again.

> 

> Abadi came out late last week stating that 9/4 is his new target and

> probably could seat the government by that timeframe. The million

> dollar question is - will he? According to the constitution he

> technically has until 9/9.

> 

> Some are saying that of Abadi does not seat the government by the

> constitutional deadline that Maliki will simply take over the process

> and complete it. He will then simply appoint himself the new prime minister.

> 

> Do you see just how ridiculous this news was. Once again we see the

> seeds of pro-Maliki rearing its ugly head. Simply idiotic and complete garbage !

> Please, please simply ignore this kind of news. It makes absolutely no

> sense at all. I do not even know why people bring this stuff over to

> the forums. Why What is the point? Do you also believe deep down such

> nonsense could possibly be real?

> 

> If they must go beyond the deadline, parliament will simply vote on a

> referendum allowing them to do so with a new timeline. It will be for

> a very good reason. However I will also add they are moving at

> lightening speed and are very much aware of the necessity to complete

> this new government and get it announced ASAP.

> 

> So we saw in the Iraq news that about mid last week Abadi put together

> a round table to bring in all the players from the blocs. He

> especially wanted the National Alliance and the State of Law coalition

> in the discussions. There are just a few minister positions not yet

> filled and the vie president and deputy vice president.  The alliance

> of the Iraqi powers holds the National Alliance responsibility for the

> collapse of the round table negotiations for preventing granting the

> rights of the Sunni component.

> 

> We saw how the State of Law boycotted any discussions and refused to

> give their list of candidates to Abadi after the bombing of the

> mosque. They required the government to bring the perpetrators to

> justice. Abadi then held an investigation and four were arrested. Then

> on Thursday the candidates were finally released to Abadi. The

> deadlock was over and Abadi made the announcement he could then

> probably seat the new government by 9/4.

> 

> Current News

> 

> My news today is direct from my sources in Iraq as of Sunday 8/31. It

> is all good news and they are moving ahead.

> 

> They pointed out that all political blocs are now  participating in

> the negotiations to form a government, disputed broke out last week to

> nominate four ministers and they finally agree on granting the

> National Alliance Shiite ministries of defense, foreign affairs,

> finance, and the Union of Iraqi national forces Sunni Interior Ministry.

> 

> What is left is a single undecided ministry, Ministry of Oil, in which

> may go to the Kurdistan Alliance. Negotiations are still in progress

> as I write this news letter. This will probably be resolved by early this week.

> 

> It has not been definitely decided yet who the vice president and

> deputy vice president are going to be. But this too will be resolved

> shortly and does not seem to be a huge obstacle since these positions

> are just more of a formality after the elections are done.

> 

> There are also two of the formerly selected ministers  that are being

> contested by a representative from Najaf and wants them replaced. The

> minister of health and the minister of utilities. The President of

> Parliament is giving them two more days to be replaced and this should

> be done by Tuesday at the latest.

> 

> Last week they swore in all ministers already chosen and began to

> officially seat them. Does this make a complete government ?  No- this

> just means that about 12 of the ministers were officially seated and

> their names listed in the gazette making it official. As usual this

> was all hyped up and misunderstood. This was not the announcement of

> the fully formed government we have been waiting for. This week there will be yet others.

> They plan to swear in the last 5 ministers and seated seat them and

> hopefully they can do all this by 9/4 or 9/9 (at the latest), when

> they are targeting the “formal announcement”.

> 

> Believe me when they announce the government it will be all over the

> international news media channels such as CNN and FOX news. Don’t you

> get sick and tired of the hype? Why is all this news from Iraq so

> misinterpreted all the time by the same intel groups?

> 

> Decentralization of Gov’t (con’t)

>  .

> Essentially the decentralization effort, as I have explained in past

> news letters,  is giving more power to the provinces and a check on

> the Federal government.

> 

> If you have been reading my news letters all along you must remember

> the news I have been including about the desire and necessity by the

> new government to support more autonomy by each of the six main

> provinces. This is being modeled off of the State/Federal system in

> American as it will be the Federation of Iraq.

> 

> This week we heard the final count of ministries was down to 17 from 31.

> They combined the duties of some and eliminated others that were redundant.

> Remember also some ministers were on the payroll but essentially had

> very little responsibilities. Others that were redundant and had

> conflicting responsibilities with other ministries. It was always

> questionable who was actually in charge. Maliki liked to keep you

> guessing and chaos was the rule of law. This way he could have control

> over everything yet have no responsibility for the corruption that was

> ramped. At least this is how he planned it. A side effect was nothing ever got done.

> 

> This past week Dr Allawi was officially appointed to head up the

> “Federation Council”, hurry, hurry, hurry ! I could not think of a

> better person for this job. Congrats to Allawi! .

> 

> This is the current line up for this coming week (targeted events):

> 

> The parliament Speaker, Saleem al-Jobouri, while meeting the official

> in Babel Province stated that there are no obstacles to hinder the

> formation of the next government within the constitutional time limit.

> 

> I personally do not think it will go until 9/9.

> 

> This is how I am hearing they plan to roll out the new government.

> 

> September 3, the remaining ministers will be sworn in.

> September 4, the official list of ministers will be released to the

> media and the people. They will announce that the government is “officially”

> completed. They will also announce the new Federation Council and its

> head Dr Allawi. They will have a photo opp for the press of the

> council of ministers along with the prime minister Abadi, his

> deputies, the president , the vice president and deputy vice president (the presidents council).

> 

> The ministers will officially start their jobs September 9 as Jubouri

> has stated the next official session of parliament is planned to begin on 9/9.

> We all know there have been promised and concessions made to all

> parties and political blocs. The trust factor is very low that this

> new government will not do the same as the Maliki government. There is

> a stack of bills needing to be passed and implemented such as  HCL and Article 140.

> Parliament will not waist any time.

> On September 9 a bucket of laws is supposed to be brought before

> Parliament. Following these laws will be the budget law. Many of these

> laws are to denounce and vote on the repeal of many of the special

> “Maliki government” laws implemented over the last  8 years. These

> laws mostly circumvented the constitution and are of no use.

> Many of the new laws are needed and are laws to support the effort of

> decentralization and to give more powers to the provinces.

> Summary

> So today’s news is still good news and we target now Thursday, Sept

> 4th for a possible announcement. Can they complete the government by then?

> 

> We have seen in the news today the reasons for the hold up and the delays.

> 

> It is not a mystery or a conspiracy of holding back the formal

> announcement from the world as to why it has not yet been made.

> 

> In the mosque last Friday they announced the ministers so far, telling

> the people there is progress. The ministers sworn in so far were

> published in the gazette but not the full set of ministers to make up

> a complete council of ministers. This has lead to much confusion among

> news gathers since they do not understand Arabic and often confuse

> what they are hearing and seeing. I do not know why but they fail to

> get the big picture over and over again.

> 

> THE GOVERNMENT IS SIMPLY NOT YET COMPLETED !

> 

> Then when can we expect the RV?

> All I will say is what I have been saying all along we wait for a

> formal

> (global) announcement to the public that the Iraq government is now

> fully formed. Many of you asked me if a formal, public announcement is

> necessary and the answer is a big fat YES

> 

> 

> 

> I do whole heartedly believe that the RV rollout will be completed

> just prior to or just after this announcement.

> 

> I want to emphasize once again this final announcement  of the IQD

> going international will not happen until the USA feels the Iraq

> government is stable, non-sectarian and is a functional government.

> This is has been the plan all along. They may have wavered a bit on

> how the plan was implemented but the overall plan guidelines have not changed.

> 

> Peace and Luv To Ya All,

> Mnt Goat

> 

CONGRESSMAN: HILLARY BUSTED IN MONSTER ‘LIE’

CONGRESSMAN: HILLARY BUSTED IN MONSTER ‘LIE’

Posted by oneway2day

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton testifies before he Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Jan. 23, 2013 – “What difference does it make?”

Yesterday I cross posted the James Rosen article summarizing what Obama was actually aware of pertaining to the Benghazigate Scandal. To summarize what knowledge Obama had about the Islamic terrorist attack in Benghazi that killed four Americans including Ambassador Chris Steven with one word – LIAR. Obama lied AND the President told his Administration surrogates to lie (such as Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice and Jay Carney).

Undoubtedly the Mainstream Media will twist some propaganda to make lite of one these so-called Obama phony scandals so below is another perspective based on an interview with Rep. Steve King (R-IA) conducted by WND’s Garth Kant that focuses on the next Dem Party darling in former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

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CONGRESSMAN: HILLARY BUSTED IN MONSTER ‘LIE’

‘I heard her with my own ears’

By GARTH KANT 

January 14, 2014

WorldNetDaily

WASHINGTON — President Obama has problems with credibility, as the world well knows after he disingenuously insisted, “If you like your health-care plan, you can keep your health-care plan” about two dozen times in public.

Now, it turns out, the Democrat most political observers believe will try to replace Obama as president apparently also has problems telling the truth.

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton lied to the American people about Benghazi, a congressman who recently returned from a fact-finding trip to Libya told WND.

He said she also lied to Congress.

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, was unequivocal when WND asked him, “What makes you so certain that Hillary Clinton lied?”

“Because,” King replied, “I heard her with my own ears.”

And, what contradicted her?

“The facts.”

King also had a blistering response to a famous question posed by Clinton.

During a Senate committee hearing Jan. 23, 2013, when asked what caused the death of four Americans in Benghazi, Clinton responded indignantly, “At this point, what difference does it make?”

WND asked King if he had an answer for her.

“The reason it makes a difference, Hillary Clinton, is because this administration lied to the American people. Her voice was one of those voices that lied to the American people.”

WND VIDEO: Part 1 Kant Interviewing Rep. King

The congressman related how Clinton and other administration officials were dishonest when they briefed Congress within a week of the terrorist attack at the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, on Sept. 11, 2012, in which U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens, computer specialist Sean Smith and CIA security contractors Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were killed.

King said he could not divulge what was said during a classified briefing he attended, but, “I will just tell you that the administration’s officials told the same lies to members of Congress in a classified setting that they told the public five times on Sunday.”

He was referring to appearances on five political talk shows by then-Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice on Sept. 16, 2012, during which she claimed the attack was a spontaneous protest inspired by anger over an obscure anti-Muslim video on the Internet.

“We know that’s false,” King told WND. “On top of that, we know they knew it was false. They knew within three hours that it was a calculated, strategized attack by an organized enemy on that compound and that annex in Benghazi.”

Strong confirmation of King’s version of events has just come to light, as newly declassified documents show top defense officials briefed Obama that a terrorist attack was underway in Benghazi not long after it began.

During a classified, closed-door hearing last year, Gen. Carter Ham, who was responsible for U.S. forces in North Africa, testified that he very quickly got to the point and told then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, that it was a terrorist attack and not a protest.

Panetta and Dempsey then met immediately with Obama.

Last February, Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee that he told Obama “there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi.”

Panetta said, “There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack.”

And yet, for the next few weeks, as the 2012 presidential election reached the crucial home stretch, a number of aides to both Clinton and Obama repeatedly insisted there was no evidence the attack on Benghazi was planned, but it appeared to be protest that turned violent.

That was contradicted by testimony on May 8, 2013, by U.S. diplomat Gregory Hicks, who was in Libya at the time of the Benghazi terrorist attack.

He, and two other key witnesses agreed, there was no basis for Rice to claim the attack began as a protest of an anti-Islamic film. And yet, Obama and Clinton repeatedly made that claim in the hours and days after the incident.

Hicks pointedly said he was “stunned” by Rice’s response to the Benghazi attack.

“My jaw dropped, and I was embarrassed,” he said.

Hicks was asked if there was any indication of a protest in Benghazi in response to the Internet video.

“The YouTube video was a non-event in Libya,” he said.

“We know from the testimony,” King told WND. “We know it wasn’t the movie. It is a fact that it wasn’t the movie.”

He also pointed out that people who worked in the intelligence community as well as the State Department have testified under oath that they knew the movie did not trigger the attack.

“And they (administration officials) have not retracted them. They were dishonest,” King flatly stated.

The congressman made the blunt assertions to WND in his first published remarks following a recent trip he organized to hotspots in North Africa and the Middle East, with Reps. Louie Gohmert, R-Texas, and Michele Bachmann, R-Minn.

WND VIDEO: Part 2 Kant Interviewing Rep. King

The Iowan had more answers to Clinton’s question, “What difference does it make?”

He said, of course, the loss of Ambassador Stevens and the three other Americans “who stood there bravely to defend that compound” was a “significant tragedy.”

But, he called the truth an even bigger casualty.

“[T]he biggest tragedy of this is this administration came forward within days and began to misinform the American people on what took place in Benghazi.”

That’s because, King insisted, “It’s a tragedy when the integrity of the presidency and the administration of President Obama, or any president of the United States, can be sacrificed for a political agenda.”

The congressman noted that former Defense Secretary Robert Gates described in his new book how then-senator and presidential candidate Clinton took a position against the surge in Iraq in the presidential primary contests in 2008 for political reasons.

“If political decisions are made on war policy in Iraq when you’re campaigning for office, and if political conditions were part of the decision as to whether there would be a surge in Afghanistan, that’s also part of Gate’s book, then those two things all but confirm that the story that the administration promoted coming out of Benghazi was a political story, designed to cover,” charged King.

And why did they need cover? Because they were in the peak of the president’s re-election campaign, said the congressman.

He said the administration “should have told the American people the straight-up truth as soon as they knew it,” but instead, “they continue to cover-up Benghazi and the only reason they’ve been allowed to do it is a media that is, for a large part, complicit.”

Conceivably, that could derail presidential ambitions Clinton might harbor.

Judge Andrew Napolitano says the former secretary of state could be prosecuted if she did, in fact, lie.

“Lying to Congress carries the same criminal liability and the same punishment as lying under oath to Congress. I’m not suggesting that Mrs. Clinton lied, but I’m saying that a case could be made out, either legally in a courtroom if a prosecutor wanted to, and certainly politically in a public sphere should she decide to seek higher office,” Napolitano said, the day after Hicks testified to Congress that the video played absolutely no role in the Benghazi attack.

WMD VIDEO: Judge Andrew Napolitano on Benghazi Lies

When WND asked King if those he spoke with in Libya share his observations about the attack on Benghazi, he said it depends on who you talk to.

He had nothing but praise for U.S. Ambassador to Libya Deborah Jones, calling her “excellent” and “terrific.”

“She’s in a very dangerous place, and she has a very difficult task. She’s upbeat, she’s knowledgeable,” and King said all of their discussions encouraged him that “we’ve got a good State Department operating in Libya.”

Follow Garth Kant on Twitter @DCgarth

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The Benghazi Transcripts: Top Defense officials briefed Obama on ‘attack,’ not video or protest

Jan 15

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Unclassified documents of recent House investigations of Benghazigate clearly paints a different picture than the Obama Administration PR and also throws mud in the face of a NY Times investigation that vainly attempted to validate the Obama Administration. Obama at the top and a handful of high placed officials on the Military and government were fully aware that the Benghazi attack was an orchestrated Islamic terrorist attack rather than a spontaneous riot due to a sophomoric anti-Mohammed/anti-Islam film.

Fox News has an excellent summary of the revelations in the documents exposing Obama, Hillary and the Administration as a bunch of liars to the people of the United States of America. After I cross post the Fox News Story the website Stand Up America has PDF links to some of those documents which still has some redaction involved.

JRH 1/15/14 (Hat Tip: Infidels United)

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The Benghazi Transcripts: Top Defense officials briefed Obama on ‘attack,’ not video or protest

By James Rosen

January 14, 2014

Fox News

Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation’s top civilian and uniformed defense officials — headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama — were informed that the event was a “terrorist attack,” declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president’s Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing — in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing — occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.

According to declassified testimony obtained by Fox News, Ham — who was working out of his Pentagon office on the afternoon of Sept. 11 — said he learned about the assault on the consulate compound within 15 minutes of its commencement, at 9:42 p.m. Libya time, through a call he received from the AFRICOM Command Center.

“My first call was to General Dempsey, General Dempsey’s office, to say, ‘Hey, I am headed down the hall. I need to see him right away,'” Ham told lawmakers on the House Armed Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigation on June 26 of last year. “I told him what I knew. We immediately walked upstairs to meet with Secretary Panetta.”

Ham’s account of that fateful day was included in some 450 pages of testimony given by senior Pentagon officials in classified, closed-door hearings conducted last year by the Armed Services subcommittee. The testimony, given under “Top Secret” clearance and only declassified this month, presents a rare glimpse into how information during a crisis travels at the top echelons of America’s national security apparatus, all the way up to the president.

Also among those whose secret testimony was declassified was Dempsey, the first person Ham briefed about Benghazi. Ham told lawmakers he considered it a fortuitous “happenstance” that he was able to rope Dempsey and Panetta into one meeting, so that, as Ham put it, “they had the basic information as they headed across for the meeting at the White House.” Ham also told lawmakers he met with Panetta and Dempsey when they returned from their 30-minute session with President Obama on Sept. 11.

Armed Services Chairman Howard “Buck” McKeon, R-Calif., sitting in on the subcommittee’s hearing with Ham last June, reserved for himself an especially sensitive line of questioning: namely, whether senior Obama administration officials, in the very earliest stages of their knowledge of Benghazi, had any reason to believe that the assault grew spontaneously out of a demonstration over an anti-Islam video produced in America.

Numerous aides to the president and then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton repeatedly told the public in the weeks following the murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans that night — as Obama’s hotly contested bid for re-election was entering its final stretch — that there was no evidence the killings were the result of a premeditated terrorist attack, but rather were the result of a protest gone awry. Subsequent disclosures exposed the falsity of that narrative, and the Obama administration ultimately acknowledged that its early statements on Benghazi were untrue.

“In your discussions with General Dempsey and Secretary Panetta,” McKeon asked, “was there any mention of a demonstration or was all discussion about an attack?” Ham initially testified that there was some “peripheral” discussion of this subject, but added “at that initial meeting, we knew that a U.S. facility had been attacked and was under attack, and we knew at that point that we had two individuals, Ambassador Stevens and Mr. [Sean] Smith, unaccounted for.”

Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, a first-term lawmaker with experience as an Iraq war veteran and Army reserve officer, pressed Ham further on the point, prodding the 29-year Army veteran to admit that “the nature of the conversation” he had with Panetta and Dempsey was that “this was a terrorist attack.”

The transcript reads as follows:

WENSTRUP: “As a military person, I am concerned that someone in the military would be advising that this was a demonstration. I would hope that our military leadership would be advising that this was a terrorist attack.”

HAM: “Again, sir, I think, you know, there was some preliminary discussion about, you know, maybe there was a demonstration. But I think at the command, I personally and I think the command very quickly got to the point that this was not a demonstration, this was a terrorist attack.”

WENSTRUP: “And you would have advised as such if asked. Would that be correct?”

HAM: “Well, and with General Dempsey and Secretary Panetta, that is the nature of the conversation we had, yes, sir.”

Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that “there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi.” “Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?” asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. “There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack,” Panetta replied.

Senior State Department officials who were in direct, real-time contact with the Americans under assault in Benghazi have also made clear they, too, knew immediately — from surveillance video and eyewitness accounts — that the incident was a terrorist attack. After providing the first substantive “tick-tock” of the events in Benghazi, during a background briefing conducted on the evening of Oct. 9, 2012, a reporter asked two top aides to then-Secretary Clinton: “What in all of these events that you’ve described led officials to believe for the first several days that this was prompted by protests against the video?

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“That is a question that you would have to ask others,” replied one of the senior officials. “That was not our conclusion.”

Ham’s declassified testimony further underscores that Obama’s earliest briefing on Benghazi was solely to the effect that the incident was a terrorist attack, and raises once again the question of how the narrative about the offensive video, and a demonstration that never occurred, took root within the White House as the explanation for Benghazi.

The day after the attacks, which marked the first killing of an American ambassador in the line of duty since 1979, Obama strode to the Rose Garden to comment on the loss, taking pains in his statement to say: “We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others.” As late as Sept. 24, during an appearance on the talk show “The View,” when asked directly by co-host Joy Behar if Benghazi had been “an act of terrorism,” the president hedged, saying: “Well, we’re still doing an investigation.”

The declassified transcripts show that beyond Ham, Panetta and Dempsey, other key officers and channels throughout the Pentagon and its combatant commands were similarly quick to label the incident a terrorist attack. In a classified session on July 31 of last year, Westrup raised the question with Marine Corps Col. George Bristol, commander of AFRICOM’s Joint Special Operations Task Force for the Trans Sahara region.

Bristol, who was traveling in Dakar, Senegal when the attack occurred, said he received a call from the Joint Operations Center alerting him to “a considerable event unfolding in Libya.” Bristol’s next call was to Lt. Col. S.E. Gibson, an Army commander stationed in Tripoli. Gibson informed Bristol that Stevens was missing, and that “there was a fight going on” at the consulate compound.

WESTRUP: “So no one from the military was ever advising, that you are aware of, that this was a demonstration gone out of control, it was always considered an attack -“

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir.”

WENSTRUP: “– on the United States?”

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir. … We referred to it as the attack.”

Staffers on the Armed Services subcommittee conducted nine classified sessions on the Benghazi attacks, and are close to issuing what they call an “interim” report on the affair. Fox News reported in October their preliminary conclusion that U.S. forces on the night of the Benghazi attacks were postured in such a way as to make military rescue or intervention impossible — a finding that buttresses the claims of Dempsey and other senior Pentagon officials.

While their investigation continues, staffers say they still want to question Panetta directly. But the former defense secretary, now retired, has resisted such calls for additional testimony.

“He is in the president’s Cabinet,” said Rep. Martha Roby R-Ala., chair of the panel that collected the testimony, of Panetta. “The American people deserve the truth. They deserve to know what’s going on, and I honestly think that that’s why you have seen — beyond the tragedy that there was a loss of four Americans’ lives — is that the American people feel misled.”

“Leon Panetta should have spoken up,” agreed Kim R. Holmes, a former assistant secretary of state under President George W. Bush and now a distinguished fellow at the Heritage Foundation. “The people at the Pentagon and frankly, the people at the CIA stood back while all of this was unfolding and allowed this narrative to go on longer than they should have.”

Neither Panetta’s office nor the White House responded to Fox News’ requests for comment.

James Rosen joined Fox News Channel (FNC) in 1999. He currently serves as the chief Washington correspondent and hosts the online show “The Foxhole.”

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Top Secret Transcripts Revealed on Benghazi

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January 13, 2014

Stand Up America

Editor’s Note – We have been hearing that much is due to be released on Benghazi that to date has been hidden, lied about, or just plain stonewalled. Below is the official release from the Armed Services Committee, through its Chairmen, Buck McKeon (R-CA 25).

It is clearly time for all the facts to come out and for those who have broken the law, or tried to obstruct the committee’s investigation to be held fully accountable.

These recently de-classified documents relating to Benghazi, with some redaction, demonstrates an enduring power struggle between the Dept. of Defense and the State Department when it came to protection of U.S. sovereign territory in foreign countries.  Due to the tacit and a non-agreed to agenda of the State Department, Hillary Clinton apparently prevailed at will.

Mrs. Clinton mobilized friends for the creation of an Accountability Review Board that performed a shallow and political investigation into the attack on the two U.S. compounds in Benghazi resulting in the death of 4 Americans, but what is most revealing is that the final decision to send military aid to Benghazi rested with Barack Obama.

In the end, Hillary Clinton kept her global reputation and Barack Obama never made a rescue call, telling us that politics were more important than saving the lives of the four and endangering up to as many as 40 others in Benghazi. They were left in abject peril for political reasons. Sadly, the lies of Benghazi are now proven.

Declassified Transcripts of Benghazi Briefings Released

Armed Services Committee Examined Actions Of Military Chain Of Command Before, During, and After Attack

WASHINGTON— The House Armed Services Committee today released a series of recently declassified transcripts of briefings on the September 11th 2012 attack on Americans in Benghazi, Libya. The briefings were conducted by the Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations then chaired by Rep. Martha Roby (R-AL), though they were open to all members of the Committee and attended by Members off the Committee.

The briefings, which took place over the course of several months, were part of the Committee’s examination of the actions of the military chain of command before, during, and after the attack. A report summarizing the conclusion of the HASC Oversight & Investigations majority Members draw from these briefings is expected to be released later this week.

Read the transcripts linked below:

o   Transcript #1 – 1_Briefing transcript (redacted), “DOD’s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,” (Part I, Session I, DOD), May 21, 2013.pdf (3.7 MBs)

o   Transcript #2 – 2_Briefing transcript (redacted), “DOD’s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,” (Part I, Session II DOD), May 21, 2013.pdf (642.4 KBs)

o   Transcript #3 – 3_Briefing transcript (redacted), “DOD’s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,” (Part II, AFRICOM), June 26, 2013.pdf (9.2 MBs)

o   Transcript #4 – 4_Briefing transcript (redacted), “DOD’s preparation for the terrorist attacks in Benghazi,” (Part III, Colonel Bristol), July 31, 2013.pdf (10.8 MBs)

o   Transcript #5 – 5_Hearing transcript, “DOD’s posture for September 11, 2013,” (Part IV, Force Posture), September 19, 2013.pdf (691.9 KBs)

o   Transcript #6 – 6_Briefing transcript (redacted), “DOD’s force posture in anticipation of September 11, 2012,” (Part V, General Dempsey), October 10, 2013.pdf (2.3 MBs)

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