TNT call notes 22-Sept-2014
Tony: Good morning,
TNT! It is Tuesday, September 23, 2014. This is an off day, of
course. Yes, the RV is going to happen. The
GCR is going to happen. We are in a good position, a very simple position today.
We can go east to west, and you got what’s on the television, so we can talk
about that.
First I would like to give
an explanation of why we didn’t do a call yesterday.
DC: We were told by several folks to wait until their 11 o’clock
news, they were waiting for certain things to be announced, to see if they
could get it done by then.
Unfortunately that didn’t happen.
Tony: But it was on
the agenda to happen on the 11o’clock news, it just didn’t. That was what we
were waiting for.
DC: Iraq – More banking and finance legislation passed,
interior and defense ministers are seated. They hit some more ISIL
bases. They have been very inclusive and successful in wrapping up the
new laws. Abadi and the President are revolving in and out of NY for UN
week. They are talking about RV and ISIL a lot, and we will see Abadi speaking at the UN
tomorrow. They are fully engaged with the legislature at home, just doing
two jobs at the moment. They are still going ahead. Any more
legislative stuff?
The CBI is
ready, just waiting.
They had a few issues there ten days away but now everything is resolved –
procedural and technical issues that are now fixed. Everyone is waiting on their timetable.
ISIL is being attacked and that has been successful. The coalition is
doing what they are doing, and it’s all very successful.
ON the
television, they are still running the same announcements saying economic
reforms are coming very soon or immediately, with locations in many areas where
people can exchange as well as merchants changing their prices. Again,
people are highly frustrated and tension is high to get this done across the
world. All the friendlies are telling their bosses that this is a huge issue
and tension is extremely high to get this done.
Tony: Last Friday, people were getting
vocally upset in the mosques because they are tired of all this.
They removed this from television and today they put it back on, and
telling people where to exchange, saying that Iraq is the richest in the
region. That adds to your point about the intelligence
agencies.
DC: Those who believe this is months off -- why would they do
this to their people now? It truly is causing issues, not just minor
blips. It is getting much hotter, as a real issue.
Tony: Parliament has
been there every day, taking votes and changing the laws. Iraq is telling their people they are the richest in the
world again. They have their GOI and now they have come
before the UN. Are they ready to take up their position in the world?
DC: According to our sources, part of their talks Sunday and
yesterday and today are saying “we are ready, done all the last-minute
things, let’s get this done!” That’s what we understand.
Tony: So I’m a brand-new
government, and I know it’s what the world is looking forward. Am I going to
look foolish in front of the UN, or do I come bearing gifts?
DC: That is pretty straightforward.
Tony: We are not going to know today,
but tomorrow…
DC: It’s part of the message to get out that Iraq is proceeding
in terms of security and economically.
Tony: We’ve heard
the 16th was a prominent date, and then the 20th, that things were to be
accomplished by those date. Do we have a new date for things to be
accomplished? ON the 3rd October is a holiday, and they want people to be
paid by then. They
have said that by 1. October, they will be paid retroactively to the 1.January. Common sense says that they will have to be done before that,
so it pushes it back again. We know that certain events have to happen before
then, too. This date, and the fact that it was moved…
DC: I just think (my opinion) is that they got some dates that it
would be nice to be done by, and they worked back from there. If we
mention a date, everyone gets upset about it, but we believe there is a lot of
logic to backing it up a while from 1. October, and there is pressure to
get it done.
Tony: Today was supposed to be a pay
day for somebody, and so was last Thursday.
DC: If you don’t pay your bills, someone starts calling, and the
same is true in Iraq. They may do something, like removing support, or
getting Iraq involved in certain issues.
Tony: Those bills were to supposed to
be paid in revalued dinar, not dollars or old dinar, right?
DC: Yes. Going to the UN, there are a bunch of meetings
there, we’ve seen some in the news. Obama and Abadi both speak
tomorrow. There are a lot of meetings going on, everyone getting
ready or being ready, proving that to everyone.
Have we been waiting on these meetings? No. Is it all the right
people/meetings, and you have the opportunity to talk to them? Yes. There
is pressure from all sides on Iraq. All of those situations are going on,
a lot of talk about Syria and Ukraine this week.
In DC<
everyone is cued up and ready, the same BIS/IMF hold on their screens.
Admin is supporting all this, both Democrats and Republicans are supportive.
Tony: From our
sources here and there, both government and private business and the public,
they are all saying “This
deal is actually done; don’t pay attention to the news. I was sitting in the meeting and
it’s done. Just wait.” WE don’t know what we are waiting for
or what the wait moment is. The ministers have been voted in for
two weeks, by a large majority – the interior
minister’s vote was unanimous!
DC: My sources said yesterday and this morning to just stop
micro-managing and let it come. Sit back and relax, it’s fine.
Tony: We want every
nuance and every detail, but the calls are all just saying the same
thing. Over the weekend, everyone was back in the banks, and they
were told that they would be busy on Monday and Tuesday. Everyone
anticipated it yesterday. On the international stage, they are
saying they have the numbers now. But we are just waiting. We know HCL has been passed.
An article came out today saying the Kurds didn’t get their 17%, but we
know HCL has been passed. This is a perfect time for this to
happen. What they are doing there is blocking communications and therefore
blocking the counterfeiters.
609 caller: When you
see the RV will happen, what is the difference between now and the last two
weeks?
Tony: There is no
difference! Its already in the system, it is happening, and
we are just waiting until the time it happens. I expect it
before the 1st, but I don’t know when it’s actually going to happen. That
would make sense to me, to get it out before sending out paychecks and people
having to figure it out.
Caller: There are
rumors of other countries wanting to RV tomorrow, like Mexico.
Tony: I think if
they RV tomorrow, Iraq will as well.
Caller: Any updates on
the Zim?
Tony: Yes but if I tell you, it will
double in price again, so I’m leaving that alone.
570 caller: I’m in
central Pennsylvania. If you were one of us, what question would you ask
that we keep missing in our questions?
Tony: We have
actually told you more than we probably should: that everyone is
telling us to relax, it’s done, we are just waiting for something and I don’t
know what. DC, what is that date by which we need to see
everything done? It’s not 3rd or 1st of October, and he cannot’ say.
DC: There is just not that much left to do…
SD caller: [can’t hear
the caller] Family time…
Tony: I hope you like
your family!
Caller:
[Appreciation] We are ten hours from any large cities. Will there
be exchange centers anywhere in the Midwest.
DC: All those cities have exchange centers and bank set up to
take your currency.
Caller: Do we have to
give the zips where we want to go? Or where we are?
Tony: They won’t
know where you are, so if you give them the zip code were you are, and they
will give you the closest exchange center, or you give them the zip of where
you want to exchange.
Caller: When the 800
numbers are out, will there be one for all the banks or what?
DC: There’s been some confusion about that procedure.
Here’s how we understand it, what we have been told by bankers, Senators, Reps,
Homeland, etc. Let’s say it goes tomorrow, just for argument’s sake;
Tony and I will be given a 800 number that goes to the call center.
They will allow us to do a combined call that says “here is where to go, here
is the procedure.” Those procedures have been changed so many times, back
and forth to our doing 7-14 days’ of calls or not. So you call the 800
number and tell them where you want to exchange, and they will give you
the names of banks and appointment times that are available. Some
will be in banks, some will be in exchange centers or mortgage centers or wherever.
Those phone calls go through the call centers, and we have friends in many of
the who have been trained and are ready to go. After those calls are
completed, many of the call center people will be send to exchange centers. Most of DinarLand will go
through in 72 centers. We understand that a higher
exchange rate will be available to us called the contract rate because it
involves a contract with China who wants to buy those dinar. There is a
limited pool for the contract rate, and they have to allow the public to have
access to the contract rate because of issues we have raise about special deals
some people got. It is limited, although we can guess, and we don’t know
how long that will rate.
We believe there
will be a high and middle contract rate, and everyone else will get the international or market rate, and
that will be somewhere between 3.50 and 4 dollars. After the first
surge, the pressure will die down rapidly and it will be like any other foreign
currency transaction. They will send them off to a facility to be counted and
your account will be credited.
For the
contract rate you will have to sign an NDA. We are not attorneys, but what Tony and I
have read is “just don’t talk about it”. The folks who take international
rate, there will be no NDA and it will be simple and straightforward.
In DinarLand, we will have a fighting chance at the contract rates.
The other five million who have a bit of dinar will get the international rate,
which will be phenonmenal, and simple/easy to exchange.
Tony: We have been told several time
by people who know that we should make sure ours is done before telling anyone
else, because there is a limited amount at certain rates.
Caller: That’s our
problem, that it will take a while to get to our appointments.
DC: I would say on the call “what is my nearest exchange
center?” Those in major cities may have a lot of people exchange.
Middle-sized towns should get you in right away.
Tony: They are
planning to be open until 11pm
at night!
919 caller: You
mentioned back that it could go in April, but the US wasn’t Basel III
compliant, so could it have gone back then?
Tony: It could have
gone, but the
dollar would have lost a lot of value. That’s why it didn’t
go. We were the only ones who weren’t ready, and
we asked for an extra year, but the other countries said they would go ahead
anyway, and we could catch up. There was a crisis in June, and
the dollar would have fallen more than 3%. I remember telling you that
this was not about us, but about the entire economy. Whenever it happens
it works out for us, but it would have been unhelpful for everyone else.
There are other things going on besides exchanging dinars, we just hope this is
one of the requirements.
Caller: ON Friday’s
call, DC mentioned a rate of $3.41, and today they are saying they are the
richest in the area.
DC: They mean the overall value of their country is the
highest. It might come out between $3.41 and $4, and it will probably go
up as well.
Caller: Did they
celebrate over the weekend?
DC: No, and everyone is really frustrated.
Caller: You are telling
us that they are ready, and you don’t know why exactly it’s not going;
what do you believe it going on?
Tony: They had
celebrations scheduled for Saturday and Sunday. They don’t fly all those
people in two weeks in a row without something going on. There is a plan.
DC: I think we are just waiting for this to go through, according
to the high-level people I’m talking to. There is nothing we are waiting for,
just waiting for some specific time.
Tony: We know when
those celebrations were scheduled and we’re watching the announcements on the
screens. We know
everything that has to be done, like the interior and defense ministers and the
17% for Kurdistan – those
have all happened. It’s done. ON
Sunday, we got that it’s done. What time we are waiting for, I don’t
know. Things were always scheduled for over a weekend and there is a
reason for that.
Caller: My birthday is
on Sunday – will I have a really good birthday?
DC: I think it should be done by there.
Tony: I hope it doesn’t
get that fat.
Caller: Do people
finally realize that dinarians are planning to help humanity? Or do you
still need to hear more of that campaign.
Tony: We needed to show the PTB that
dinarians are good people.
DC: Why we decided to ask what people are doing is for that
campaign, and because society is full of people who are trying to learn, do the
right thing and pay attention. We tried to address that. Also,
there were some folks just tried to bait us into doing silly or stupid things,
and we refused to rise to that. Also, we would say something
tiny in a two-hour live call, and they would jump over us. So they would use this to
‘prove’ that these guys are not capable of doing this sensibly. A lot of
those who have ‘lottery winner syndrome’ do benefit society by buying things
and contributing to charities.
Caller: I’m planning a
lot of endowments for colleges and churches and creating other foundations…
DC: That’s great!
Tony: It doesn’t take long to be sick
and tired of spending money – you’ll see!
650 caller: From
everything you’re saying, this weekend should have been it. I’m really
surprised this didn’t happen. You have told us that there are interior
and defense ministers – what are their names?
DC: I’m freezing here.
Tony: The interior has been made
public in their newspapers – and it has been made public.
Caller: What happened
at the weekend? Who moved my cheese?
DC: It was an agreement between the CBI and Abadi. They had to get tacit approval
by UST, BIS, the Chinese and the Bank of England.
Caller: Who does this
make sense to? It’s in everyone ‘s interest to get this done and move on
in the world. You said the CBI is in control of this process,
so how does this continued to be delayed?
Tony: You guys are
just looking at monetary issues – and that does make a difference. Last
week, let’s say there was money in Iraq. People with money don’t want to
fight, unless someone is paying you to fight. So if those paying you to
fight also threatening you, then does that make a difference? If, this
week, X says I will give you more money than Y did, and Y has stopped
threatening you, does that make a difference? It’s a timing
issue. It’s not just about the money.
Caller: So many things
have been accomplished. I just don’t understand how there can be any
pressure NOT to do this.
Tony: I can see why
they would do it. They
are not concerned about YOU getting paid. They have other concerns. They will
pay the people they need to pay by the 1st, and I think they will do it well
before then. It’s easy to see the steps if you look past “where’s my
money?”
Caller: [More of the
same]
Tony: Did they
manufacture this crisis, and would it have been better to do it 90 days
ago? Yes, but this is the situation there
is now, and they have to deal with it. I don’t like it, and I would like
to have been paid yesterday, but there are other factors. There is one
more step that has to go with that, okay?
Caller: What do you
expect Abadi to say at the UN tomorrow?
DC: I expect him to thank everyone for their help and make a
major push for Iraq to be ready to resume their place in a major way; their
economic future is brilliant and ready to go forth… and that they don’t
need ground troops. IF he mentions anything about economic reform,
I will be jumping in my seat.
585 caller: DC, I
understand that you are an independent, but I would bet that 1. October would
be a good day to look at for the last push before the November elections.
DC: Getting out the vote
is the big concern. The democrats are a bit
behind the GOP in that respect, and they can use the money up to the 3. October. Their main concern
is getting people out right now; their belief is that a lot of
decision are not yet made. A lot of Democrats are still angry about
screwing up this exchange in June/July; this messed up the elections in a
big way and they are very angry. It looked like an easy win, and it
didn’t go through. Right now everything is there. A lot of people
are resigned to having a slight majority. The main fear is about how much
legislation will get down – my friends in DC are afraid not much will get
done because of Congressional gridlock.
Caller: Many are
concerned about reports of growing unrest. What will happen if there is a
mass revolt?
DC: The smart play is the
RV. They have to figure out how long they
can do this. My contacts are frustrated and angry, because there is
nothing to gain from these delays, and they are playing a pretty nasty game of
poker. The Iraqi government wants to get this done, and it’s not
really the administration holding it up – it’s a lot of private businesses and government
organizations. There are so many smart people who are too
afraid to make the smart decision. People don’t get into government
service to push the boundaries and take risks. These are inherently NOT risk-takers
who are worried about bad press, etc. This causes everyone to freeze
instead of moving forward, especially around nonstandard operations. It
is so bureaucratic, not just here but in other countries as well.
617 caller: Is it still
in Iraq’s hands to get this done?
DC: They are listening to everyone else, but it’s still their
decision. The
President does want this to go.
719 caller: I was
reading an article about a guy whose daughter got killed by a drunk driver, and
he set up a 3-5,000 grant for anyone who kept to a non-drinking pledge during
those four years of college. I thought that was great. Tony, you
said we are not going to know today, with all the speeches at the UN, and then
Abadi speaking tomorrow. You also keep talking about weekends…
Tony: I don’t think
they will put this through until right before Abadi’s speech tomorrow, and then he will address some of those issues in
his speech. I’m not guaranteeing that, but it would make
sense. However, it didn’t happen yesterday, and although it could happen
tonight, Abadi is already here in NY.
Now, about weekends:
if they want to freeze a rate, the best time is at the weekend because there is
no Forex, they are not changing their rates at the banks, etc. That is
the opportune time to do it. However, if they want to do it before then,
that could work. They had several plans that didn’t work out because
things changed on the ground, but that opportune time would have worked
perfectly to get all of us exchanged. Could that change again? Yes,
anything could happen.
Caller: When you talked
to the guy about ISIL, it certainly made sense and that would be a great time
to release this.
Tony: ISIL is paying
those people and giving them food. So NOW, with the threat being removed,
this is a good time to give the Iraqis their money to buy food and goods.
Caller: I can’t believe
that Americans could be so stupid as to think they could go over to Iraq and
have a good life under ISIL.
Tony: I don’t think
they could ever come back to the US.
Caller: They are at the
end by which this HAS to be done, and now everybody is watching for it, in
these ten days. If they hadn’t delayed it, it could have gone
surreptitiously overnight. Why would they drag this out so long.
Tony: They have been catching
counterfeiters for the last two weeks, and there
was a guy in London did ten billion dollars in trades two minutes before it was
supposed to go! That’s why they don’t’ want you to know the exact
timing.
Caller: One of my group
said that Zim, rupiah and dong are not Basel II compliant, much less Basel III.
DC: They are betting on their country’s assets to clean all this
up. Basel III is a great idea, but it’s not mandatory. It’s there for stability, so that
major crashes are not repeated. It demands more transparency, better bank
ratios, and all the rest, so that if there is an issue, we will get you your
money. IT’s going to take those countries about ten years to be fully
compliant.
Caller: Would it be
easy for the US to become asset-backed fairly quickly?
DC: The Fed is still pumping in free money, so it’s difficult to
be asset-backed 100%. We still have gold and other reserves, plus
resources like natural gas and coal. We are so big that it’s a slow move
into an asset-based currency. Will we ever be fully asset-backed? I doubt it, but we can
move in that direction, with a bit of a cushion to absorb the spikes in the
financial markets.
Caller: Well, I hope we
see it soon.
817 caller: I’ll be
paying this forward on scholarships for students who cannot get to college on
their own, and ask them to do something for the money like community
work. My other thing is: what is the possibility of picking our
brains for a book or website where I read about how to deal with other people
after this happens – like hiding your wealth, being discreet. You’ve
talked about this in the past, but is there is a page, a webinar or something…?
DC: I like your line of thinking. It will change things in
your life. You can
have money and not let people know about it, and that works better.
Look for The Millionaire Mind and The Millionaire Next Door. A magazine
called Wealth, and it has some good advice; it has a lot of good articles
and reference materials to deal with the relationship aspect with your kids,
family, neighbors, etc. It has some fun aspects, too. There’s a lot
of really information you can get in wealth training classes. A lot of
wealth advisers have access to that kind of seminar, and they can be fun and in
nice places, so you can learn how to be rich while avoiding mistakes.
Tony: We are trying
to get WF to give those classes at our events, but if all else fails, they also
give those instructions to lottery winners if you’re in a lottery state.
Caller: I seem to the
only caller from Texas today! Two years ago I joined one of those
cash-out groups. They were on the up-and-up, but they had some
issues. They went to Nevada 18 months ago, and they had as many as
possible sending their currency because they thought they would be cashing out
right away. Some of the leaders started opening the packages and taking a
few hundred thousand here and there. They had us open up trust accounts
with WF, and then people started complaining about being ripped off, and they
closed down all those accounts and banned them from WF for life. I was
one of those people.
Tony: I hope it
turns out great for you. I know some people in Reno who will have the
worst day of their lives when this RV comes out. I hope he is not one of
them.
425 caller: I’d like to
ask about the NDA. Will you be giving up your 4th amendment rights by
signing an NDA?
DC: Freedom of speech is the 1st Amendment. The 4th
Amendment is about search and seizure. Because you are signing an
agreement and they are giving you a lot of money, yes, you make an
agreement that your right to free speech is restricted. This
happens all the time in business. Homeland and the rest are not
interested in making anyone’s miserable. They just don’t want you
to talk about the higher rate. The ones I’ve read are very
simple: in exchange for this money/rate, you agree not to talk
about this for X number of years. Some of us who are more
involved in this process will have to sign something much more stringent, but
that’s okay. The NDA means you
cannot say anything. That’s all. It’s pretty simple.
Tony: They are
already freezing people’s accounts because they violated their NDA.
Caller: If you have a
larger amount to exchange, does the NDA become more complex?
DC: NO. Whether it’s 1,000 or 1,000,000 dinar or more, the
NDA just says you cannot talk about it period. They are not coming out
and looking for you, but if you’re stupid, they will notice.
Caller: Can you
exchange directly into another foreign currency?
DC: Sure, at Sterling or another dealer. Banks probably
won’t do that because they want to keep it down to 20 minutes per
appointment. About the NDA, you can talk to your lawyer or accountant, if
they sign as well. You have to be able to say under oath that you
ever talked about it. My wife is still pissed at things I’m only telling
her about now, that I had taken oath not to discuss with anyone for a certain
length of time.
Tony: But if you
figure out how to get around it, let me know!
Caller: So if I have an
attorney go in with me, do I have to have him sign the NDA as well?
DC: My understanding is that you can speak with attorney,
accountant, anyone you have a confidential relationship with, but if you want
your attorney to read it, you might need another appointment. I just got a text saying that you have to let everyone know
you can’t talk about, and neither can they (if, say, your kids already know but
are exchanging themselves).
832 caller: I’ve been
listening for four years, and this is my first time on this call! The
ones that keep asking about zim and all that, they won’t need an NDA, will
they? Because they can’t keep a secret! That NDA is going to be bad
for them! Me and my wife, my sister and brother, we are all waiting for
this. We know this is going to happen, it’s just a matter of time.
We are listening to what God has given to you to keep us strong and believe,
because this is happening in His time. I understand that you can’t tell
us everything… and I can keep a secret. You don’t have to know
everything, you can just be thankful you are in it. [Appreciation]
Tony: It takes all
our team to make this a great call, and everyone has sacrificed along the way,
including those who put their jobs on the line to share information with
us. Some people have been jailed, their computers taken, some have
even lost their jobs, and there are still people putting their families at risk
by doing this for us, and for the right reasons. I thank them, and it
makes our life easier as we try to figure this out. I’m glad you
appreciate that and said thank you.
Caller: We know your
call is true, because I can hear it in your voice. Everyone wants to know what
WE are doing with this money. I would like to know what the PTB are going
to do with this money. People are struggling around us, and we can look
around us, next door and at the supermarket. When someone’s car breaks
down, it doesn’t take a lot to help with a tow-truck. I am asking the PTB
to let us join in this gift. We may be nobody, but we have the chance here to
help Iraq and the US to get where they need to be. We send our children
to war, and we have the President to stand for us. We want the chance to
build America back up, and all we need is the chance to build her back to the
country she is supposed to be.
DC: It is done; it is coming. They are ready in
Iraq, at the UN, and in the banks. We don’t know
exactly when, but it is
happening. We appreciate all those who give us information in the
US, Iraq, the UN and other countries. We know we have made a difference
in many folks lives.
Pam: Think of how much you would know and how you would feel
if you didn’t have Tony and DC in your lives…
Ray: I forgot to put a
stamp on my resignation. Everyone enjoy Terrific Tuesday.
DC: Thank you to the whole TNT team, including Mods and
transcribers. My Canadian guy called yesterday! I don’t expect it
today, but tomorrow would be a good day, and I think we
will see something this week. It’s not something we are waiting
for, like an issue in their parliament; it was voted on last week.
IT’s just a matter of what
day and time. We know they are telling their people that they will
get paid by the 1. October back to the beginning of the year.
They have gone past their timelines before, but the reaction in the mosques is pushing this to happen
now. There are two weeks in a row that they flew
people in to celebrate, and it didn’t happen. It’s got to happen,
so just relax, let it go, stop trying to micro-manage, and just let it
come. I do plan on doing a call tomorrow, if we don’t’ do it tonight. Thanks, and
enjoy the rest of your day.
