12/18/2013
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Tony Good Morning TNT - Basically, I want to split this into 2 halves. I want to tell you what's really going on, new cashout procedures, and then I'll answer a question about the real world and how it operates, even about our own country and govt.
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Tony Good Morning TNT - Basically, I want to split this into 2 halves. I want to tell you what's really going on, new cashout procedures, and then I'll answer a question about the real world and how it operates, even about our own country and govt.
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T - We know this has been dragging out for months. We've been
told it'll happen tonight. Or tomorrow. I'm telling you that you've been
hearing on a global level that it's happening. These are from meetings with
directors and 3-letter agencies doing their morning briefings. That was last
Thursday and we still wait. They were told last night it should have happened
at 2-3AM in the morning. And it didn't. Some were fired last week, some sent to
Alaska, new people were brought in.
T - On Monday the IMF forced the rates to go live. The IMF actually shocked our gov't and system by taking it live. When I say "LIVE" that means live at the central banks, not the local bank level. They still have to push it out to their street banks because it didn't go through the global system we were supposed to trigger. Because we didn't do it, the banks outside the USA have to do it themselves.
T - Those Central Banks are just like our UST. They have to wait for the rates to go live before anybody gets paid on the local level. And they have elite getting paid just like we do. But it's not at the street level. That does not mean it's not happening. So if you call your friend in another country and they say it's not happening, that doesn't mean it's not happening.
T - This morning at 2-3 AM it should've gone live around the world. Since Monday, however, the USA has a campaign of calling the other nations NOT to take it live even though the IMF did it. They are asking them not to do, even though it's their option to do so and even though the IMF pulled the trigger. Today, they (Iraq) can see their currency and their rates are live. The IMF did what they were supposed to do and said "enough is enough, you've had your opportunity."
T - As of this morning, there is a live bank rate and can be cashed out in Kuwait, Jordan, Dubai, UAE, Saudi Arabia - $3.85 in each of those countries being pushed down to the banks in those countries. We have had people cash out in those countries confirmed this morning. I do know we have had people cash out.
T - The other places where it is live at their respective Central Banks are Israel, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Chile, UK, France, Venezuela, Belgium but they responded to the US and are holding the rates from going live. It should've gone this morning but these countries agreed to hold it. The big question is why and how long do they intend to hold it? Who is holding it? It was, in fact, the UST, lying to other agency directors in DC about it.
T - People at the agencies level are saying "we're done." But someone else is is saying it's not done.
T - It's been the IMF against the USA and each blaming each other, saying it's not them holding it up.
T - the debate is still about the rate. At some point today I hope to hear what the debate is exactly about. They know they have paid out a bunch of people and they have to fix the system accordingly with the rates. Who does that make sense to? You paid out the elite and the system was working? And now it's not? It may have been a problem but not big enough to hold off paying off the elite. So they weren't lying, just not telling the whole truth. Even last night they were still paying people. How can we have 15,000+ elite people who haven't been involved in the calls, aren't senators or congressmen, haven't been involved in this, etc. and they're paying people with less than 5M dinar? I was told if you contact the right person you can get paid.
T - That can't be the reason. Over 37,000 have actually been cashed out so far. What the real problem is the rate: there is, right now, people are calling for a formal investigation on the abuse of power of people being paid. And the people who paid them out are trying to have an agreement in place to justify NOT paying us the $32 (not paying every single person that rate). They want to put something in place so they don't have to pay it back. I'm only hearing this from one side. The formal audit is necessary for this. I'm also hearing they're still trying to shorten the CE time, even though they say they don't want a stampede or it to be wild and crazy.
T - They say they want everybody done in 5-7 days and spend the security for that period rather than for an entire 30 days. They say they don't want panic, but they absolutely are causing. All of this can change. Monday after the call it started one way, and today it's different. It could've very easily gone today at 2-3AM like it was supposed to. Now they're putting out excuses, i.e., waiting on the budget to be signed tonight. The vote has already been taken and there is no concern there. Then they're saying Bernanke's speech and QE4. What does that have to do with the RV? Absolutely nothing! We're still going to stimulate the economy.
T - So where are we? It could through at any minute, any second, if they're protected and this new investigation means they're covered. They don't want us all to get the $32 rate. According to the IMF they are fighting for us to all get that rate. According to the payout we may all have access but we all may not get it. If not, they're trying to get protection. I'm hearing from different agencies who are mad, frustrated, and tired of being lied to. They're relaying it to me so it'll be public right now. This is the issue and enough is enough.
T - I don't know when it will happen or when it will come to conclusion. They asked for another 48 hours to resolve some things. The countries that are live said "no" and they went with the IMF. The others said they'll give that time but said it will run out eventually. They still all want it by Christmas, but then Christmas Eve is also before Christmas and we don't want to hear that BS. People can deal with the truth if they would just tell it. At least we would know when it is. I'd rather hear that than "everyday tomorrow, etc."
T - This is blatant, blatant at this point. The UST didn't like me saying "incompetent" because they were just following directions and doing their job. That is how they do business. Now they really know what is really going on. With this POTUS you're seeing more dysfunction that has been more public than it has ever been in the past 6 years. And we're seeing because we're involved in. You're finding out things most people will never know. If you didn't know you will today.
T - When this thing does happen, some will get $32 and others $5. The market rate is $3.85. We have a contract rate of $5.85 they want to push out to us. The $32 rate will be paid to some people for a period of time. They're trying to narrow that group and timeframe of that rate payout.
T - Here's what I have been told will be paid: $32 to the Admiral's Group in Reno, as a contract rate. They will honor that. Because of the nonsense with the G64 group and others, including one group that ran off with a billion dinar, the playing field was leveled, but China said no. There is another number for the G64, which will get the medium amount between the high and the low. I have the exact number they will get, even though they don't even know. Their 800# is not the 800# I will be giving out. If you call their number for the Private Placement Group will get their private placement rate.
T - If you walk in off the street they'll give you a pamphlet with an 800# and they will get paid $5.85. These are those who never listened to calls or were involved. This is only with 1 bank: there will be an 800# we will give out and for a period of time anybody going through that number will get the $32 and it will be a flex rate.
T - This is only one bank and it could change right after this call. I will verify when I get the 800#s but I'm being told that we will get $32 initially and the rate will move down over time. We're still going to have an RV. I'm still hearing before Friday evening, and before Christmas. Who cares if it happens by Friday? They're still supposed to give the banks time before it hits Forex. But that's the reason they're holding it up. I know this is confusing.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM...
Q - How are the other rates affected? A - They're not. They are tied together. VNN at 1.16.
Q - Was the process of using 800#s scrapped? A - That is not true. The only way they have to control everything. Why would they scrap this? And China is still very much involved in this for the oil credits through WF. China is the only country in the world given authorization to bypass the UST auction process. At least 30% of the exchanges will go for oil credits through WF.
Q - How can the rate change post-RV? A - The rates will change according to demand. It is no longer a fiat currency. It is based on supply and demand. The only thing different with us is that we have a contract rate for a period of time. When that contract runs out we will be subject to the Forex rates like everybody else.
Q - What sense does it make to hold on to VNN for a higher rate? A - I do see it going up depending on the rate it comes out at initially. The market will detemine this. People who didn't believe in this will see what's happening and will jump in. If you don't know that game, don't do it!
Q - How is it that in this country, that advertises equality for all, that the UST, an arm of our government, allows cronyism and elitism to cash out? This blatant favoritism reflects outright discrimination. The UST is making excuses to cover this. Frankly, if they can cash out one they can cash out all. When do we convey our grievances to Jack Lew? When I was in the army we pledged "no man left behind." Where is that sense of duty today?
A - First, don't go all anti-government on me. I have talked to a lot of people and they're all saying the same thing: it's not fair. It's not fair to the other countries. Not fair to us. Over 37,000 people have been paid out in this country but other countries are still waiting. I don't know who 37,000 people are who are above other countries. I don't know. Every agency is blaming the UST and they are stopping the world from moving forward. While a bunch in DC got paid, many in DC did not get paid. Nobody want this to be that public (us dinarians). Do NOT make that mistake - you will regret it for the rest of your life.
T - I'm hoping we can get the 800#s and we can go on with our business. I'm not sure it will generate another call today. I don't know.
"LIVE" CALL-IN BEGINS NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Is the 800# your personal number? Or is that a TNT Group Number? T - I don't have a number. The only number is the WF group's number. As far as I know WF is the only bank paying anyone thru an 800#. The UST will issue the other banks 800#s.
[FLPatriot59] NOTICE - CALL-IN Q&A TRANSCRIPTION ENDING NOW. I have to leave so I cannot continue. Sorry!
(Note: The remainder of the call notes are available at TNT: )
T - On Monday the IMF forced the rates to go live. The IMF actually shocked our gov't and system by taking it live. When I say "LIVE" that means live at the central banks, not the local bank level. They still have to push it out to their street banks because it didn't go through the global system we were supposed to trigger. Because we didn't do it, the banks outside the USA have to do it themselves.
T - Those Central Banks are just like our UST. They have to wait for the rates to go live before anybody gets paid on the local level. And they have elite getting paid just like we do. But it's not at the street level. That does not mean it's not happening. So if you call your friend in another country and they say it's not happening, that doesn't mean it's not happening.
T - This morning at 2-3 AM it should've gone live around the world. Since Monday, however, the USA has a campaign of calling the other nations NOT to take it live even though the IMF did it. They are asking them not to do, even though it's their option to do so and even though the IMF pulled the trigger. Today, they (Iraq) can see their currency and their rates are live. The IMF did what they were supposed to do and said "enough is enough, you've had your opportunity."
T - As of this morning, there is a live bank rate and can be cashed out in Kuwait, Jordan, Dubai, UAE, Saudi Arabia - $3.85 in each of those countries being pushed down to the banks in those countries. We have had people cash out in those countries confirmed this morning. I do know we have had people cash out.
T - The other places where it is live at their respective Central Banks are Israel, Canada, Australia, Turkey, Chile, UK, France, Venezuela, Belgium but they responded to the US and are holding the rates from going live. It should've gone this morning but these countries agreed to hold it. The big question is why and how long do they intend to hold it? Who is holding it? It was, in fact, the UST, lying to other agency directors in DC about it.
T - People at the agencies level are saying "we're done." But someone else is is saying it's not done.
T - It's been the IMF against the USA and each blaming each other, saying it's not them holding it up.
T - the debate is still about the rate. At some point today I hope to hear what the debate is exactly about. They know they have paid out a bunch of people and they have to fix the system accordingly with the rates. Who does that make sense to? You paid out the elite and the system was working? And now it's not? It may have been a problem but not big enough to hold off paying off the elite. So they weren't lying, just not telling the whole truth. Even last night they were still paying people. How can we have 15,000+ elite people who haven't been involved in the calls, aren't senators or congressmen, haven't been involved in this, etc. and they're paying people with less than 5M dinar? I was told if you contact the right person you can get paid.
T - That can't be the reason. Over 37,000 have actually been cashed out so far. What the real problem is the rate: there is, right now, people are calling for a formal investigation on the abuse of power of people being paid. And the people who paid them out are trying to have an agreement in place to justify NOT paying us the $32 (not paying every single person that rate). They want to put something in place so they don't have to pay it back. I'm only hearing this from one side. The formal audit is necessary for this. I'm also hearing they're still trying to shorten the CE time, even though they say they don't want a stampede or it to be wild and crazy.
T - They say they want everybody done in 5-7 days and spend the security for that period rather than for an entire 30 days. They say they don't want panic, but they absolutely are causing. All of this can change. Monday after the call it started one way, and today it's different. It could've very easily gone today at 2-3AM like it was supposed to. Now they're putting out excuses, i.e., waiting on the budget to be signed tonight. The vote has already been taken and there is no concern there. Then they're saying Bernanke's speech and QE4. What does that have to do with the RV? Absolutely nothing! We're still going to stimulate the economy.
T - So where are we? It could through at any minute, any second, if they're protected and this new investigation means they're covered. They don't want us all to get the $32 rate. According to the IMF they are fighting for us to all get that rate. According to the payout we may all have access but we all may not get it. If not, they're trying to get protection. I'm hearing from different agencies who are mad, frustrated, and tired of being lied to. They're relaying it to me so it'll be public right now. This is the issue and enough is enough.
T - I don't know when it will happen or when it will come to conclusion. They asked for another 48 hours to resolve some things. The countries that are live said "no" and they went with the IMF. The others said they'll give that time but said it will run out eventually. They still all want it by Christmas, but then Christmas Eve is also before Christmas and we don't want to hear that BS. People can deal with the truth if they would just tell it. At least we would know when it is. I'd rather hear that than "everyday tomorrow, etc."
T - This is blatant, blatant at this point. The UST didn't like me saying "incompetent" because they were just following directions and doing their job. That is how they do business. Now they really know what is really going on. With this POTUS you're seeing more dysfunction that has been more public than it has ever been in the past 6 years. And we're seeing because we're involved in. You're finding out things most people will never know. If you didn't know you will today.
T - When this thing does happen, some will get $32 and others $5. The market rate is $3.85. We have a contract rate of $5.85 they want to push out to us. The $32 rate will be paid to some people for a period of time. They're trying to narrow that group and timeframe of that rate payout.
T - Here's what I have been told will be paid: $32 to the Admiral's Group in Reno, as a contract rate. They will honor that. Because of the nonsense with the G64 group and others, including one group that ran off with a billion dinar, the playing field was leveled, but China said no. There is another number for the G64, which will get the medium amount between the high and the low. I have the exact number they will get, even though they don't even know. Their 800# is not the 800# I will be giving out. If you call their number for the Private Placement Group will get their private placement rate.
T - If you walk in off the street they'll give you a pamphlet with an 800# and they will get paid $5.85. These are those who never listened to calls or were involved. This is only with 1 bank: there will be an 800# we will give out and for a period of time anybody going through that number will get the $32 and it will be a flex rate.
T - This is only one bank and it could change right after this call. I will verify when I get the 800#s but I'm being told that we will get $32 initially and the rate will move down over time. We're still going to have an RV. I'm still hearing before Friday evening, and before Christmas. Who cares if it happens by Friday? They're still supposed to give the banks time before it hits Forex. But that's the reason they're holding it up. I know this is confusing.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM...
Q - How are the other rates affected? A - They're not. They are tied together. VNN at 1.16.
Q - Was the process of using 800#s scrapped? A - That is not true. The only way they have to control everything. Why would they scrap this? And China is still very much involved in this for the oil credits through WF. China is the only country in the world given authorization to bypass the UST auction process. At least 30% of the exchanges will go for oil credits through WF.
Q - How can the rate change post-RV? A - The rates will change according to demand. It is no longer a fiat currency. It is based on supply and demand. The only thing different with us is that we have a contract rate for a period of time. When that contract runs out we will be subject to the Forex rates like everybody else.
Q - What sense does it make to hold on to VNN for a higher rate? A - I do see it going up depending on the rate it comes out at initially. The market will detemine this. People who didn't believe in this will see what's happening and will jump in. If you don't know that game, don't do it!
Q - How is it that in this country, that advertises equality for all, that the UST, an arm of our government, allows cronyism and elitism to cash out? This blatant favoritism reflects outright discrimination. The UST is making excuses to cover this. Frankly, if they can cash out one they can cash out all. When do we convey our grievances to Jack Lew? When I was in the army we pledged "no man left behind." Where is that sense of duty today?
A - First, don't go all anti-government on me. I have talked to a lot of people and they're all saying the same thing: it's not fair. It's not fair to the other countries. Not fair to us. Over 37,000 people have been paid out in this country but other countries are still waiting. I don't know who 37,000 people are who are above other countries. I don't know. Every agency is blaming the UST and they are stopping the world from moving forward. While a bunch in DC got paid, many in DC did not get paid. Nobody want this to be that public (us dinarians). Do NOT make that mistake - you will regret it for the rest of your life.
T - I'm hoping we can get the 800#s and we can go on with our business. I'm not sure it will generate another call today. I don't know.
"LIVE" CALL-IN BEGINS NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Is the 800# your personal number? Or is that a TNT Group Number? T - I don't have a number. The only number is the WF group's number. As far as I know WF is the only bank paying anyone thru an 800#. The UST will issue the other banks 800#s.
[FLPatriot59] NOTICE - CALL-IN Q&A TRANSCRIPTION ENDING NOW. I have to leave so I cannot continue. Sorry!
(Note: The remainder of the call notes are available at TNT: )
1 comment:
This is a response to Tony's call he claims General64s called him and offered him to join and even stated he was offered an amount of money.
One I do not believe that at all... Pure Fiction.. And Lies!..
Now i would like to give to you all a response to TNT Tony from Okie's web site and from people that have met General64s in person!..
http://www.okieandfriends.com/t3280-pitbull-s-response-to-tony-09-22-13-afternoon
PITBULL'S RESPONSE TO TONY 09/22/13 AFTERNOON
Post Cindieloohoo on Sun Sep 22, 2013 11:23 pm
[~Pitbull] For the record: It is a fact that 2 mods, (SpiritualWarrior& Pitbull) from OOM have met with Generals64. We found him to be very kind-hearted and open to seeing the masses blessed. Though his list was closed, he arranged for OOM to have a separate list that would also be presented to the bank. The Generals64 has gone above and beyond to see to it that those that missed out on his list would still have access to private placement rates. This has come at NO personal benefit or financial gain, but rather great cost to him, SpiritualWarrior & Pitbull. Please note that OOM has no “donate button”. Those that have been listening to the fear mongering that Tony has put out about Okie being threatened have been severely misinformed. Not only did Tony betray Okie’s confidence, but he has also misinterpreted and even fabricated information to sensationalize his calls. It has always been of the highest priority for us to be a blessing to Okie and to advise him in ways that would be for his own personal safety, as so many others have used his name and his access to the masses to further their own cause. What was arranged with the Generals64 was to the benefit of all of OOM. SpiritualWarrior, Pitbull nor Okie has any back door deal to get any more than you. Okie has always had a heart to see to it that those of OOM were taken care of and blessed. This list accomplished those objectives. I hope you can appreciate our desire to be anonymous. We, unlike many, have no need for the spotlight. We were content to have had access to be a blessing to thousands. Only because of the lies that Tony has put on the air regarding 2 mods from OOM, has it become necessary, for the safety of the other dedicated mods from OOM, for us to come forward. I have never spoken with Tony. While I hold no personal malice toward him, I do hate what he has done to Okie, Generals64, SpiritualWarrior and myself. Most of the positive things that are going on, happen behind the scenes. We don’t need a daily conference call to let you know that we are working for you. We do, however, ask for your prayers and caution in the future, as you hear the latest and greatest scuttlebutt. God forbid that anyone else has to endure the threats, lies and character assassinations that we have. We sincerely hope that DinarRecaps will publish this response to that which was previously deemed fit to publish without vetting. As usually is the case, there are two sides to every story.
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