Editor comment: In the course of observing the historical exchanges between all parties, in my opinion, This childish display on the part of the NLA leadership demonstrates the unprofessional and damaging conduct that I deem as destructive.
The common law grand jury remains an instrument of the people. It is not the private toy of the NLA which is being led by people of questionable character and motives.
To illustrate the point…Gary@NLA : Hoisted upon his own petard! | Scanned Retina – A Resource for the People!
People serious about the common law grand jury must consider creating their own jural society in each county as a separate and independent body for the people, by the people and of the people, not beholding to anyone but the community they serve.On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Gary@NLA <gary@nationallibertyalliance.org> wrote:
I have seen this before. Gag on a gnat and swallow a camel guys. I am not 11.
From: Carl Swensson [mailto:prevere@riseupforamerica.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:23 PM
To: ‘ARNIE ROSNER’; ‘Gary@NLA’
Cc: Greg Todd
Subject:
RE: [Scanned Retina – A Resource for the People!] Please moderate:
“Live Affidavit to: Common Law Citizen’s Grand Jury HQ and John Daresh”
If I might butt in…
Gary,
Perhaps
you are new to the history which has been un-taught, un-seen and
un-heard of by the vast majority of continental State citizens. So, let
me take this opportunity to remind you that we haven’t had a lawfully
functioning government since the outset of the Civil War. There was a
brief period during the 38th Congress that the appearance of legitimacy
was given but that quickly gave way to the Union recapture and
re-establishing military rule by replacing all duly elected officials in
the ten southern States with military appointments. Since that time we
have remained under the dictatorial rule of the military by way of the
“Lieber” code. ALL court functions have been under this military
control.
As it was then, so it remains to this day.
Did
you know you have been closely working with a mystery man? Our research
ties him to John E. Vidurek. Are you familiar with that name? Are you
also familiar with the address he uses to accept his donations? 3979
Albany post rd. Suite 107 Hyde Park, NY 12538 happens to be the address
for “The Shipping Place”. I called the phone for this company and
confirmed it is nothing more or less than a P.O. Box and yes, NLA uses
them. With no physical address and only P.O. Box reference points, the
question begs to be asked… where are all the NLA donations and
subscriptions going? By cross referencing the phone numbers he uses we
come up with the name of Kimberly Vidurek. Again, since you are so
close, Do you know this Kimberly? I have attached some
search results and all have relevance to John. His affiliation with
CUSTOM BUILT is particularly intriguing and it only gets stranger from
there. I have kept my nose out of your business and even helped on a few
occasions but I cannot remain distant to what is going on any more. We
have no more time to mess around and delay the inevitable.
Regardless
of who or what he winds up being, the issue of giving credence to the
fictional court system is what remains the most troubling problem. As
you are now aware, correspondence through document filings is
practically non-existent, at any level attempted. Sure, the educational
aspect of the NLA is fairly good but it continues to be based on a false
premise to start with. There is no authorization for any CLGJ outside
of those fictional courts. If he convinced you that Article 61 of the
Magna Carta was his authorization then you too have been duped. Having
been involved with these GJ’s since 2009 I can say with confidence that
utilization of the term CLGJ is a fraud in and of itself. I have gently
told John (?) this on many occasions and even offered to help him use
what he then had and morph it into a group working at all the county
levels to truly be a force to be reckoned with but alas… no interest.
Crimes
against the public, initiated by the Attorneys through their puppets,
the public servants IS actionable but will never see the light of day
until and unless your exalted leader either ceases and desists in
perpetrating the fraud and utilizes what remains of the group for
positive action or turns the reigns over to someone who will. Neither of
which is likely as long as he continues to surround himself with
willing accomplices and so far you, sir, are one such.
In
closing, please accept this Email as an invitation to talk about what
must now happen. We the People, in all our various endeavors are now
down to the last arrow in our quiver. That arrow is the one where we all
put our differences aside, pool our humanly assets and meet at the
first mutually agreed upon location, for the purpose of removing and/or
arresting the criminals, educating and assisting those who’ve requested
our assistance to accomplish this because the criminals they caught
remain unprosecuted and un-arrested due to prosecutorial discretion or
favoritism. We can then take the time to show them how to establish
their DeJure court system minus the influence of Attorneys and with
perpetual oversight to insure that locale never suffers at the hands of
these crooks ever again. They can do it and we can be the assistance
they need to make it happen.
These
are in fact desperate times and they do call for desperate measures.
Talk time is over. Paper filing time is over. Only positive, peacefully
styled action will save the day. That is, if the intent is to right this
sinking ship. It is mine and it is Greg’s.
Sincerely,
carl alfred: Swensson
From: ARNIE ROSNER [mailto:arnie@arnierosner.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:31 PM
To: Gary@NLA
Subject:
Re: [Scanned Retina – A Resource for the People!] Please moderate:
“Live Affidavit to: Common Law Citizen’s Grand Jury HQ and John Daresh”
Thank you Gary,
Your kindness is overwhelming.
However
the sympathy is not reciprocated. I am funny about things like
treason…if found guilty, I favor hanging them. I am sure you realize
this is not personal…it is just treason.
Arnie
In the service of the Creator.
It takes so few words to express the truth!
Available 24/7 –
714-501-8247 – mobile
On Aug 24, 2015, at 3:29 PM, Gary@NLA <gary@nationallibertyalliance.org> wrote:
I feel bad for you. I really do.
Good luck,
Gary
From: ARNIE ROSNER [mailto:arnie@arnierosner.com]
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:37 PM
Subject:
Re: [Scanned Retina – A Resource for the People!] Please moderate:
“Live Affidavit to: Common Law Citizen’s Grand Jury HQ and John Daresh”
jumping
to conclusions as you stated is the kind of irresponsible conduct of
which some members of the NLA have displayed to discredit those who
support the common law grand jury judicial process. It is disappointing
to see this ignorant approach.
The
grand jury process has always been part of the peoples government. The
process belongs to the people and not to any specific group.
To
its credit the NLA has done a lot to help promote this fourth branch of
government, but a few remarks of the kind you just made, negates all of
the good efforts by those who appear to have been legitimately
supporting the republic.
I
suggest you take a long and hard look at the quality of the fruit
offered through the document you are so quick to condemn. Ignorance I
could let pass…your comments are deliberate.
In my opinion, by the fruit you offer, you are one of the detractors attempting to perpetrate the deception.
Arnie
In the service of the Creator.
It takes so few words to express the truth!
Available 24/7 –
714-501-8247 – mobile
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