Saturday, February 15, 2014

THRIVE UPDATE - we can get a big picture of the current state of surveillance and also some of the ingenious work-arounds people have invented to protect our hard-won privacy.

Dear Thrive Movement,

When THRIVE came out it was controversial to acknowledge that all our phone records and emails were being collected. Now, just two years later, thanks to Edward Snowden and others, the awareness about domestic surveillance is commonplace.

But what's it all for? How do the dots connect among the various technologies, and with a larger agenda? And what can we do about it?

This week, I put many pieces of the puzzle together so that we can get a big picture of the current state of surveillance and also some of the ingenious work-arounds people have invented to protect our hard-won privacy.

I hope you will spread this around, as our shared awareness is key to the solution.


Toward a thriving world,

Foster, Kimberly and The THRIVE Team



  
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Late Fri.PM/ Early Sat.AM News, Rumors, and Opinions

Late Fri.PM/ Early Sat.AM News, Rumors, and Opinions

02/15/2014
Early Saturday Morning:

TNT:


[igotit] Monday is Presidents Day, I think Tuesday may very well be in line?

 [locofelipe] igotit I remember Shabibi saying something about it going thru on a three day week end..... I still thinking this may be that week end

Jcr : man you guys are slow TODAY.....I really feel great today and this will be a historical week-end.....hint hint hint hint hint

Jer39Prove8: Dinar investment is really leaking out into the open public! On the news! Dated FEB 1, 2014  Thought this was cool to see on tv. That was only my second time seeing something so blatant on the IQD. I'm really looking forward to this happening on FEB. 16th.....it's my birthday and what a gift this will be!      http://youtu.be/jxSZvlmxuBc    

Laco: I remember seeing this in the past, this is at least a couple years old.
It just got recently reposted by someone that wants to collect a crowd of subsrcibers.

Nelliecat: Interesting how the reporter states (at the very end of clip) that if you think you were sold fake dinar don't throw it out, but to send it to her!
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Read More Link on Right

GET:

Topic: If you accept the expectations of others, especially negative ones, then you never will change the outcome. Michael Jordan

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I4U

[xyz] bbc news regarding dinar LOL Strange financial language: RV, GCR, Guru, hopium, and pumper according BBC News  
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01ryk68

[scrench] xyz so what's your take on the BBC article ? Are we part of a fraud or are they clueless ?

[xyz] scrench BBC should have spent a few minutes reading our 'Dictionary' that include our financial terms - Lazy researcher   
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2011/09/dinar-dictionary-vic-ticious-post-at-get-forum.html

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Late Friday Night:

Mig:


[xyz] Breaking News …Nijaifi postpones holding parliament session till settling issues over Budget law Nijaifi informed the MPs over postponing holding the parliament session till settling the disputes with Kurdistan region over the Budget."  
http://www.alliraqnews.com/en/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49044

[xyz] SAC Says Compliance Chief Steve Kessler Stepping Down ..SAC Capital Advisors LP, the hedge-fund firm that in November pleaded guilty to securities fraud, said Chief Compliance Officer Steve Kessler is stepping down at the end of the month after almost a decade at the firm.   http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-14/sac-says-compliance-chief-steve-kessler-stepping-down.html

[xyz] Soros Fund Purchases Stakes in JP Morgan, Citi   http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/02/14/soros-fund-purchases-stakes-in-jp-morgan-citi/

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Jester’s Place:

[Grunt0311] HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO EVERYONE. :)

 [Grunt0311] BEEN BUSY WITH MY SCHOOL WORK... IN FACT, THAT IS WHAT PROMPTED ME TO STOP IN TONIGHT. :)

 [alfonse] Grunt0311 You going to teach us some real history??? :)

 [Grunt0311] alfonse INDEED, I THOUGHT I MIGHT GIVE IT A SHOT. :)

[Grunt0311] ALRIGHT, SO, I'M GOING TO POST AN EXCERPT THAT I BELIEVE YOU MAY ALL FIND RATHER INTERESTING...

[Grunt0311] "The conditions which surround us best justify our cooperation; we meet in the midst of a nation brought to the verge of moral, political, and material ruin. Corruption dominates the ballot-box, the Legislatures, the Congress, and touches even the ermine of the bench. The people are demoralized; most of the States have been compelled to isolate the voters at the polling places to prevent universal intimidation or bribery. The newspapers are largely subsidized or muzzled, public opinion silenced, business prostrated, homes covered with mortgages, labor impoverished, and the land concentrating in the hands of capitalists."

"The fruits of the toil of millions are boldly stolen to build up colossal fortunes for a few, unprecedented in the history of mankind; and the possessors of these, in turn, despise the Republic and endanger liberty. From the same prolific womb of governmental injustice we breed the two great classes-tramps and millionaires."

"Silver, which has been accepted as coin since the dawn of history, has been demonetized to add to the purchasing power of gold by decreasing the value of all forms of property as well as human labor, and the supply of currency is purposely abridged to fatten usurers, bankrupt enterprise, and enslave industry.

 A vast conspiracy against mankind has been organized on two continents, and it is rapidly taking possession of the world. If not met and overthrown at once it forebodes terrible social convulsions, the destruction of civilization, or the establishment of an absolute despotism."

"We have witnessed for more than a quarter of a century the struggles of the two great political parties for power and plunder, while grievous wrongs have been inflicted upon the suffering people. We charge that the controlling influences dominating both these parties have permitted the existing dreadful conditions to develop without serious effort to prevent or restrain them.

Neither do they now promise us any substantial reform. They have agreed together to ignore, in the coming campaign, every issue but one. They propose to drown the outcries of a plundered people with the uproar of a sham battle over the tariff, so that capitalists, corporations, national banks, rings, trusts, watered stock, the demonetization of silver and the oppressions of the usurers may all be lost sight of.

They propose to sacrifice our homes, lives, and children on the altar of mammon; to destroy the multitude in order to secure corruption funds from the millionaires."

[Grunt0311] IS IT JUST ME, OR DOES THIS SOUND EERILY FAMILIAR?

[Betsy Ross] Grunt0311 it does

[Grunt0311] ANYONE WANT TO TAKE A GUESS AT WHERE THIS EXCERPT IS FROM?

[Betsy Ross] Grunt0311 no clue

[alfonse] Post Civil War ?

[Grunt0311]   
http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/documents/1876-1900/populist-party-platform-july-4-1892.php

[alfonse] Pre WWi

[Grunt0311] 1892

[Grunt0311] I DO BELIEVE SOMEWHERE I HEARD THE PHRASE "THOSE WHO DO NOT STUDY HISTORY ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT." ;)

[alfonse] This was a very tumultuous time in our history

[Grunt0311] I WILL SAY THOUGH, THAT EVEN I WAS SURPRISED AS HOW UNCANNILY IT MIRRORED OUR CURRENT SITUATION.

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/02/late-fripm-early-satam-news-rumors-and-opinions.html

Saturday Afternoon Dinar Chatter

Saturday Afternoon Dinar Chatter

02/15/2014
TNT

Jackd1955: Update...Patience...Just been 8 days since GAME CHANGED
Quick update from 10th floor trader..No doubt most all countries now GREEN/LIVE..but again very little activity,,in US,,the frenzy has stopped also..

Word around Trader Global Water cooler..GCR to commence Feb 15th...HIS WORLD personnel on HIGH ALERT this weekend!l..WORKING MONDAY

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Maninc56: Could this be the Saturday in the future from Bloomberg's June/July report ?
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/investor-worry-distorted-stock-markets-upeY9yWKTLOf~7ZRqeXCkQ.html   

[inspired2] I see a little BBC trending has caused some doubt in some of our members. Here is where the rubber meets the road.
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Read More Link on Right
[inspired2] We need to sit back, take a deep breath and really think about why we got into this investment in the first place. Are you good with your decision? You entered because you believed after your research right? Good. Now, don't let anyone sway you. Believe in YOU! YOU are all you have.

 [kismet] Did not think it was all that bad on the BBC thing......... all the stock market channels have eluded to the GCR...... :)

[econeal7] inspired2 You are so right my friend!!! Go RV!!! Go TNT!!!!!!!

[inspired2] Be strong in your convictions. Be all you were meant to be. You paid your dues, hopefully did all your research, have brothers and sisters that believe in you as well. How fortunate is that? Hold on...it's coming.

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OOM&F:

[modynell] Has Okie posted lately

[..sambo] modynell GOOD MORNING and HOWDY - NOTHING FOR A FEW DAYS

[modynell] hope he is alright

[..sambo] modynell OKIE IS GOOD - NOHING NEW TO REPORT AT THIS TIME

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I4U:

[HOODINI] ok if you saw the bbc news thing imo it is last gasp and what do you expect when you poke a big bear

[HOODINI] the iraq bank dollar turn in story has been confirmed as true and correct lines turning in dollars, so what else is true bunky

 [sananddan24] Hoodini this very well could be "that Saturday night" when the world changes ... And we wake Monday morning to a new world!

[sananddan24] After all our Saturday night is Iraq 16th

[sananddan24] Hoodini could you enlighten us on where we are on this venture?

[#3sister] Houdini did we rv or is it later today?

[HOODINI] this will be a wait day, so go and enjoy, see ya

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MIG:

[clubber3] good morning MIG!!!

[clubber3] Burning questions for tomorrow. Will we hear an announcement from Iraq?, Will it deal with the RV? Interesting day tomorrow

[clubber3] tomorrow, tomorrow, it's always tomorrow.

[citizensoldier] Watched pots "seem" to never boil. When you are courting a nice girl an hour seems like a second. When you sit on a red-hot cinder a second seems like an hour. That's relativity. Albert Einstein

[citizensoldier] Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein More Einstein here   
http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/a/albert_einstein.html

[MsDiva] citizensoldier thumbs up on that

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KTFA:

walkingstick » February 15th, 2014,

Rupiah Leads Emerging Currencies as Indonesia Lures $1 Billion
By Yudith Ho and Harry Suhartono Feb 14, 2014 4:29 AM ET

Indonesia’s shrinking current-account deficit has turned the rupiah into the world’s best-performing emerging-market currency this year, after it weakened in 2013 by more than any other peer apart from Argentina’s peso.

The shortfall in the broadest measure of trade was 1.98 percent of gross domestic product in the fourth quarter, down from 3.8 percent in the previous three months and a record 4.4 percent in the second quarter, the central bank reported yesterday as it left interest rates unchanged. The data spurred a 2.2 percent two-day gain in the rupiah to 11,825 per dollar in Jakarta, extending this week’s jump to 2.8 percent, the most since June 2009, prices from local banks show.

Global funds have pumped more than $1 billion into Indonesia’s stocks and bonds in 2014 as the country reported December’s trade surplus was the biggest in more than two years. Maybank and Morgan Stanley predict further rupiah appreciation if Jakarta Governor Joko Widodo, known locally as Jokowi, wins a July presidential election. He is currently topping voter surveys after announcing plans to clamp down on tax evasion and pushing ahead with stalled transport projects.

“The risk in the Indonesian rupiah has eased as the current-account deficit is narrowing,” Joey Cuyegkeng, an economist at ING Groep NV in Manila, said yesterday. “Political uncertainty has also eased because the front-runner is a reform-minded candidate.”

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-02-14/rupiah-leads-emerging-currencies-as-indonesia-lures-1-billion.html


http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2014/02/saturday-afternoon-dinar-chatter28.html

NOTES FROM TONY TODAY, 14 FEB

 


(Short call with only Tony's comments)
GOOD AFTERNOON TNT. YOU ALL HAVE A JOB TO DO, DO YOUR JOB TODAY.  THIS CALL IS SHORTER BECAUSE OF NO BLOGTALK. I HOPE TO HAVE NEW RADIO THIS EVENING OR TOMORROW IF I CAN GET IT DONE IN TIME FOR THE WEEKEND BECAUSE THE PLACES ARE CLOSED THAT ARE NEEDED TO GET BACK ON. PEOPLE CREDIT BLOGTALK ISSUES TO THEM BEING CONTACTED BY A GUY ON TWITTER, MIKE DISTON, WHO THINKS HE CAN SHUT US DOWN.  HE THINKS HE HAS THE POWER TO DO THAT. 

I WOULD LIKE FOR US TO TELL HIM WE GIVE HIM HIS 15
MINUTES OF FAME. OTHER THINGS OVER THE WEEKEND WILL MAKE US HAPPY AND MAKE THE IDIOTS LOOK LIKE IDIOTS.  I WANT TO ADDRESS THE IDIOTS BECAUSE IT MAY BE THE LAST CHANCE. EMAIL IS GOING OUT ABOUT HOW I AM MAKING MONEY OFF OF BLOGTALK. 

I WISH I WAS MAKING THAT MONEY. GO LOOK FOR YOURSELF AND SEE WHAT IS REQUIRED FOR GETTING PAID ON BLOGTALK.  I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE DOING IT AND DO NOT HAVE A CLUE WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT.  IT LET'S YOU KNOW WHAT WE GO THROUGH TO GET INFORMATION TO YOU.  
WE WILL SEE STUFF COMING OUT OVER THE WEEKEND BUT BE VINDICATED MONDAY OR TUESDAY.

YOU SHOULD BE AT THE COUNTER RIGHT NOW EXCHANGING. THEY OBVIOUSLY INTENDED FOR US TO BE THERE TODAY. THAT IS SHOWN BY WHAT IS GOING ON IN IRAQ. NO USD CAN BE USED EXCEPT ON MILITARY BASES,
WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING AT A NEW WORLD TODAY.  THINGS WERE IN MOTION LAST NIGHT, BUT GOT STOPPED FOR GOOD REASON, A VERY SERIOUS REASON.

 IT HAS BEEN WORKED THROUGH AND WE WILL GO ON. CALL CENTERS, EXCHANGE CENTERS HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE LAST 2 HOURS, BUT BEING PERFECTLY HONEST WITH YOU, I DON'T THINK YOU WILL BE THERE TODAY, BUT MAYBE THIS WEEKEND OR MONDAY.  THE FOCUS AROUND THE WORLD HAS BEEN ON THE GCR NOT THE RV.  ONE THING HELD US UP BUT I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT IT.  


IT HAS BEEN RESOLVED AND THEY HAVE TO SET A NEW
TIME TABLE AND IT IS EXPECTED TO BE OVER THE WEEKEND. IT WAS NOT THE U.S. THIS TIME THAT STOPPED IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE SHOCKED THAT WE ARE NOT AT THE BANK. IT WAS SERIOUS ENOUGH THAT IT HAD TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. THE RV WAS STOPPED UNTIL EVERYTHING GOT STRAIGHTENED OUT.

LIKE MIKE DISTON, WHO CLAIMS HE CAN SHUT DOWN BLOGTALK ON TWITTER, EVIDENTLY HE IS NOT THE ONLY ONE. SUPPOSEDLY TONY HAS DONE THE IMPOSSIBLE THING ONE SINGLE PERSON CAN DO ... INITIATED THE WHOLE DINAR SCAM BECAUSE HE SAID GO OUT AND BUY IT.  DON'T LOSE FAITH. 


EVERYTHING WE ARE HEARING AND WHO WE ARE HEARING IT FROM SAYS, FINALLY THIS THING IS OVER AND WE CAN GO ON WITH OUR LIVES AND GO ON TO THE NEXT PHASE AND THERE IS A NEXT PHASE AND OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US.  3D PRINTING...GO TO YAHOO (FORD TODAY) A
FORD MUSTANG MADE OUT OF CHOCOLATE IS THE FIRST ONE TO USE 3D PRINTING. IT IS JUST THE BEGINNING. THERE IS A WHOLE NEW INDUSTRY YOU CAN TAKE PART IN.

WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO TELL YOU IS
THE RATES CHANGED AGAIN AND WENT UP EVEN HIGHER.  DO NOT BUY ANY MORE DINAR OR RESERVES. IT WAS MADE BETTER FOR YOU YESTERDAY AGAIN WITH THE NDA. THIS IS REALLY ALL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THERE ARE NOT A LOT OF PROBLEMS. IT IS PROGRESSING RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT. ALL IS SCHEDULED TO GO THROUGHOUT THE WEEKEND AS IT WAS SUPPOSED TO.

 IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TODAY. THE GCR AND BONDS WILL GO AS SCHEDULED. I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT. IT TOOK SO LONG BECAUSE I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM WAS AND WAS IT SOLVED AND CAN WE CONTINUE.
ANSWERS TO ALL 3 ARE YES. NOT THE U.S. OR THE UST THIS TIME WERE THE CAUSE OF IT BEING STOPPED. INFORMATION THAT I GOT MADE SENSE THAT THEY WOULD EXTEND IT AND WE PROCEED ON.

  I WILL BROADCAST OVER THE WEEKEND IF I NEED TO AND I THINK WE MAY NEED TO.

(PAM) BE EXCITED OVER THE WEEKEND BECAUSE I KNOW THE INTEL AND AM VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT.
(TONY)  PAPA BEAR OR SOMEONE LIKE THAT FROM THE GENERAL 64 GROUP SAYS THAT GROUP IS GOING TO GET PAID MORE. DON'T USE THE 800 NUMBERS AND DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO TONY.

  IT SEEMS LIKE IF THEY KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT FOR THE GROUP THEY WOULD TELL IT. I (TONY) AM GOING TO TELL YOU EXACTLY
WHAT TO DO BEFORE WE GO TO THE EXCHANGE. USE A NEW EMAIL BECAUSE I KNOW FOR FACT THAT OTHER SITES ARE SELLING YOUR INFORMATION SO THEY HAVE LISTS OF NEW MILLIONAIRES. USE A NEW EMAIL THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. OVER THE WEEKEND I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO A LONG DRAWN OUT CONVERSATION, A LONG............. CONVERSATION!


Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 5:57 PM

Which Banks Are Open on Presidents’ Day 2014?

Friday, February 14, 2014

There is No Law Requiring You to Pay Income Tax

There is No Law Requiring You to Pay Income Tax


These are a few short clips from the documentary America: Freedom to Fascism by Aaron Russo.

"Come now, you rich, weep and howl for your miseries that are coming upon you!"

"Indeed the wages of the laborers who mowed your fields, which you KEPT BACK BY FRAUD, cry out; and the cries of the reapers have reached the ears of the Lord of Sabaoth.

IRS Official declares there is NO LAW requires any American to



No Law Requires You to Pay Income Tax, Period



Former IRS Agent and Congressman Ron Paul say Federal Income tax is illegal!






BBC Investigates TNT Tony

BBC Investigates TNT Tony – #wearethepeople

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BBC TNT Tony Investigation

BBC NEWS TNT TONY DINAR SCAM
Over the last week or so a number of us from the community have been in contact with the BBC to help them further their investigations into the malpractice surrounding the Dinar Investment…
“#wearethepeople has been tweeted more than four million times in the past three weeks. It looks like an anti-government protest, but who’s really behind it? The Trending team investigates how financial ‘gurus’ are using the hashtag to encourage people to buy Iraqi dinar.” BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01ryk68
Time: 11:30 GMT/06:30 ET/03:30 PT
Date: Saturday 15th January 2014
Be sure to listen in live, no doubt there will be playbacks available.
Baghdad Invest would like to say a special thanks to Cordelia and everyone at the BBC, who took the time to look into this in more detail and spend double digit hours on ensuring you have a real story.