Part
I: My Concerns About Inteligentry
Here I enumerate several concerns, including the perpetual
postponement of manufacturers being shown how to run their engines;
encouraging people to buy stock to get their license so the money doesn't go
in escrow; John's ignoring great suggestions for the technology and the
company; a timeline that evinces a lack of understanding of the steps
involved in taking something to market.
Here I stand at the gate to
Inteligentry's facility.
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by Sterling
D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
We all would love it if the noble gas engine company, Inteligentry
story were true. Wouldn't that be fantastic? -- a solution for both the clean
energy push and for the economic depression. Some of us want it to be true so
bad that we have been extremely generous to Inteligentry, despite so many red
flags, foremost being that no one there (except John, allegedly) has ever
seen a working engine yet.
After visiting
Inteligentry a week ago, I went from skeptical, on the verge of doing an
exposé, to being optimistic. But given the correspondence I have had with
CEO, John Rohner, since then, with a multitude of internal contradictions,
and considering additional information about the Inteligentry operation that
has come to light, I now feel obliged to present to you information, which in
my assessment, concludes that this is a highly questionable operation. Here
is the info; you can decide for yourself.
Perpetual Postponement
Since I began covering Inteligentry, John has given many dates of when
certain things were to happen, which didn't happen.
I realize that, generally speaking, when rolling out something new, things
usually take much longer and cost a lot more than anticipated. So I don't see
postponements of milestone accomplishments to be a red flag in and of itself.
One of the things I was holding out for was an upcoming manufacturer's
meeting on around September 8, when those manufacturers who are able are to
show up with a couple of engines built, were to have John show them how to
hook up the noble gases and electronics to make the engine work.
What I found out today, though, is that there have been a number of such
meetings scheduled since March, and each time they have been postponed
because one or more of the manufacturers wasn't ready. Rather than just
proceed with those who were ready, John postponed that function of the
meeting to allow time for the others to get ready -- saying something to the
effect that he wants to get them all started at the same time. More
manufacturers have been licensed recently, and they are working on their
engine, having just received their castings within the last month and are
still waiting for good drawings. So they are unlikely to be ready; so John
could use that as an excuse to postpone again, for example.
If that had happened one or two times, it might be understandable, but it has
happened at least five times, according to Jeff Platt, who was part of the
Salt Lake City (SLC) group, and subsequently stepped down, and is now sure
enough in his skepticism to go public with his name, while the rest of his
former group still want to go forward, hoping for the best. Apparently, John
has made statements already regarding the upcoming meeting that Jeff thinks
will turn into yet another "postponement" of showing them how to
get their engines to run on Joseph
Papp's
noble gases plasma effect.
Four of the five engines you have seen on display at Inteligentry were built
by the SLC group, yet still John requested that they build two more in order
to show up to the next manufacturers' meeting.
The appearance of those engines in his shop has given him huge credibility
capital that has brought in people to buy stock and apply for licenses, even
though those engines, built to John's specs to be "production
prototypes", couldn't run more than a few hours at 500 rpm, according to
Jeff. He's not an engineer, but he's been around mechanical things enough to
have some common sense. He did watch the engines running with an electric
motor, and they were shaking pretty badly.
Licensing Deal in Stock Purchase
Regarding the licenses, I had been impressed by two things: 1) their low
price, not preventing entry; and 2) that the license funds are put into
escrow until the licensee witnesses a working unit. Puts you at ease, right?
What I learned yesterday is that PTP Licensing has a "deal" for
stockholders, that for a certain amount of stock, you can get a license
included. According to a person I was speaking to yesterday from Europe, Tana
Kane has been encouraging potential licensees to go this route, so they get
both a license and stock in the company. More importantly, that way,
Inteligentry gets spendable money, whereas they don't get the money if it is
put in escrow.
Another thing I've been noting is that John keeps pushing back the date that
they will stop selling stock. By having a deadline coming soon, people feel
pressure to get in on the good deal while it is still available, then push
the deadline back again -- a classical marketing ploy driven by and feeding
the scarcity mentality.
Ignores Many Key Improvement Suggestions
One of the big red flags is how impervious John is to good suggestions about
how to improve the design and improve the company. He behaves like a dictator
-- he knows best, and anyone who varies substantially from his position is
likely to be tossed out of the game. He's been on the hunt to find out who of
his manufacturers have been talking to me, so he can excise the offending
parties. Because Jeff from SLC is willing to go on record with his concerns,
now the entire SLC operation is being poised to go on the chopping block,
even though he's left them.
If you look at this behavior from the vantage point that he has made
everything up about having ever had an engine(s) running, and so he knows
there never will be a working unit going to market, then a lot of his
behavior starts to make sense. Why worry about improving the engine design if
it's all for show to bring in money, not to go to market? Why plan for alpha
testing to find out how the design will work in various environments -- hot,
cold, elevation, vibrations, shocks, damage -- if you're never going to have
such an engine to test? Why work through the fine details of all the steps
needed to bring an engine to market if you're not actually going to bring an
engine to market? All he needs to do is give the appearance that he's working
in that direction, to keep the gig going, to keep new stock sales coming in.
Jeff's point to fellow manufacturers is: "Even if John has a real
technology, he is not the kind of person you want to be doing business with
because of how he has treated so many people in the recent past."
Taking a Product to Market
Just think, for a minute, about what is usually involved in taking a new
product to market that breaks new ground to the extent that this one
allegedly does. You want to have months of satisfactory performance from many
alpha and beta test units. And there is the certification process, too. The
alpha tests are done first (once you have a production prototype), in house; and
when those perform satisfactorily, then you open up limited beta testing to
run the device out in the field under a wide range of customer environments.
This costs many millions of dollars, and it is why investment money is
needed.
The fact that John hasn't been open to or soliciting such investment should
be a major red flag that he has no intention of doing satisfactory alpha and
beta testing because there will never be a working unit to test. He just
tells his manufacturers that this will be their responsibility, yet he
expects them to have units ready to sell by the December 11-13 PowerGen
conference; even though they haven't even yet seen a unit working, let alone
tested. They still have to engineer a design that will hold up. This process
usually takes 12-18 months in the real world, with adequate funding.
You'll note that the Inteligentry facility has no engine testing equipment.
No dynamometers. Not needed if you're never going to have a running engine,
so why bother, right?
Well, John claims that he's already done all his lab testing on earlier
engines that have been running at undisclosable locations. What you see now
is a production prototype. That's what he told me as recently as last week
when I was there.
Yet the manufactures say that the present engine design of John's would never
hold up. For example, Jeff points out that the oil that is used to lubricate
the engine is likely to contaminate the noble gases, and they will
degenerate. John replies: "The cylinders don't need oil, they are
self-lubricating." But Jeff points at that the bearings on the Harley
Davidson crank shaft at the bottom have to be lubricated with oil.
Balancing is another issue. John has the two linear pistons moving back and
forth together, rather than opposed. Keeping the noble gases in is another
engineering issue for the "production prototype". John says it's
solved, but the manufactures disagree.
Put yourself in an attorney's shoes. Can you fathom taking an engine to
market, which is going to sit in people's homes, cars, planes; just a few
feet away from where people are; which hasn't been thoroughly tested? If it's
a new nuclear process, what unseen emissions might there be? What unusual
electromagnetic properties might be emitted? How could that effect health?
You can't just assume it is safe.
A Unit to Power My House
Now, with that in mind -- what it takes to bring a product to market, with
beta testing following alpha testing -- consider the lack of understanding
exhibited by John when he told me last week that I could expect to drive down
to Vegas in a month to pick up a (beta) test unit to take home and power my
house.
Yet none of their group (except, allegedly, John) has yet seen an engine
running; and even John has not yet run the present "production
prototype" on the noble gas process; let alone test it to see how it
will hold up.
Where is his head? Is it in reality or make-believe?
You know how much I or anyone would love to have such a unit.
Popper Challenge
I asked Jeff what he thinks about Inteligentry selling the "Popper" kits that
allegedly will enable people to build a piston set-up to illustrate the core
principle of the Papp engine that uses a plasma form of the noble gas to push
the piston. It seems like he wouldn't do that if it would be so easy for
people to discredit him if it doesn't really work.
Jeff points out that in his experience, he has found it very difficult to
obtain the noble gases needed. Most sellers only sell in bulk, so people will
be looking at spending many thousands of dollars for just one gas container.
He couldn't find any supplier that sell the gases in small amounts. Also, as
we pointed out the other day in a news link,
helium is getting difficult to obtain, and the price is going up
substantially. (In looking into this and reading up on it, be sure to
distinguish between He and He3 . The latter is the one that is
getting scarce and expensive. It's the regular helium that is used in the
Papp engines.)
So superficially, it looks like Inteligentry is being transparent, when, in
fact, the chances that people will be able to procure the gases they need to
run their Popper device are very low. It's not like an electronic kit where
you just go down to Radio Shack to get the components you need. [See update
just below about cheaply sourcing the gasses.]
And think a little more about this. Even if the gases could be obtained in
small amounts, how much do you think a small canister of gas would cost,
including shipping?; and there are 5 gasses you have to obtain. Then you
probably need to get hoses and regulators. And you have to have a way to mix
these (I guess a syringe and balloon could work). That is not going to be
easy or cheap.
They should at least give recommendations about this in their instructions.
It could, possibly, be one definite positive thing that comes from this whole
saga, even if just a few people are able to replicate the noble gas plasma
piston effect.
Here is what Dan Glover of PTP Licensing said regarding procuring the gas:
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At
this time we are not offering any gas as part of the kit. Yes, in some
areas it may be problematic to procure the pre-mix locally (minimum order
sizes and such), however the internet is a great equalizer of customer
service.
The kit will be challenging to build for sure. But remember, it is a
do-it-yourself kit. By definition, there are parts you will need to procure
yourself. As of last week, I knew nothing about CB Radios and their RF
connectors. Today I am learning, including a annoying trip to 2 radio
shacks to find a $5 cable. So far, I've had to rewind a coil, head to Lowes
3 times for parts and sealant, re-build a non-functional filling apparatus
(damaged during our move), all the while having to roll our giant pre-mix
gas cylinder around on the ground for 30 minutes between tests [to mix the
gases]. The kit isn't going to be for everyone.
But we will have people who become rockstars, and we will have folks who
abandon it because of the challenge/work involved.
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I would think that given the specific mixture required here, there will be
no such thing as "pre-mix" anywhere, let alone locally, unless someone
who believes in this stuff and is an entrepreneur chooses to step forward to
offer a small pre-mix canister for sale (preferably someone who has made his
own system functional with that mixture).
On August 21, ~8 pm MDT, I got a call from
Ed Hemphill who is experimenting with this technology. He gave a
recommendation for measuring and mixing the noble gases.
- Take a
graduated/measuring flask and submerge it in water.
- Turn it up-side down,
making sure it is filled with water.
- Fill it with the gas
to the measuring point desired.
- Take a mason jar, and
likewise submerge it and turn it up-side-down.
- Empty the flask gas
contents into the mason jar.
- Repeat the process for
the other gasses.
- Leave some water in
the mason jar. It will help you mix the gases when you are ready to use
them.
He said he found you can get a tank of Helium from Hobby Lobby for $36.
And you can get Argon from a local welding supply. And you can get neon from
a sign-maker. For what it's worth, he said he heard John say that you don't
need Xenon or Krypton. Ed plans on starting his popper test with 50% He, 30%
Ar, and 20% Ne.
Spelling of Inteligentry
I would argue that there is as much a disconnect between the spelling of
"Inteligentry" and intelligent (two Ls), as there is between the
facts and evidence surrounding that company and what really is going on. It
claims to be one thing, when it is not that at all.
If somehow I'm wrong in my assessment, and Inteligentry really does have a
working technology, it wouldn't hurt to hold out a few weeks to see how the
next manufacturer's meeting turns out. I've always recommended that people
don't put any money down until they see something working.
Patent Not Awarded
A commenter below points out another red flag.
"Inteligentry claims to have a patent
(see http://inteligentry.com/doc.html)
and provides a link to the patent application (12/592,117). If you research
the status of the application (http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair),
the patent is not approved and the examiner filed a Requirement for
Restriction/Election on 08/09/2012. There is an application, but not an
approved patent. All they have is a patent pending technology."
Mark Euthanasius added:
"Back in June John Rohner wrote the following message implying that
the application had been granted a patent when as you noted, examination had
not even begun. Examination of the content will not proceed until
Inteligentry deal with the Requirement for Restriction/Election. They have
about two more weeks that they can respond or abandon the application. One of
the interesting things about this application is that it was assigned to
PlasmERG Iowa when John Rohner turned over PlasmERG Iowa to Michael Giraourd
over legal disputes in May 2011. In June 2011, John Rohner's attorney Brett
Trout filed to reassign the patent application to Inteligentry Nevada. Given
the rate at which John Rohner has been burning bridges with business
associates, I wonder whether Brett Trout is still handling this
application."
I should point out that my list of concerns above is not comprehensive,
but reflects just some recent discoveries, conclusions.
Comment from Bob
I received this email from Bob
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From:
Bob Rohner
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2012 9:29 PM
Subject: Sad state of affairs we find ourselves in
Sterling
It has to be tough writing an article like that. I know I have thrashed
out at you over the years but I was frustrated on one hand and understood
on the other. You could not have known that every little detail of his life
and his story were totally bogus, You have probably never ran against
someone with his condition. But frankly you should have picked on the
technical inconsistencies being presented daily.
The problem with John is that he is and has always been a pathological
liar. There is no doubt in my mind that he truly believe there's an engine
of his still running after a year and a half, that he has two top secret
PhD's, and on and on. He cannot help this and it is hard to point the
finger at someone with this condition. By spinning one new story (which he
will believe 100%) after another, you eventually just wear out and walk
away. I actually blame the entire fiasco on his family who have allowed
this to go on for no other reason than to make a fast buck.
The real shame is that he is so damn brilliant. His motors are a sham and
the entire design should be pitched as worthless. His businesses are a
shame, who needs ten corporations to launch an untested product. But having
three hundred websites to spread his latest unbelievable stories was a
stroke of genius. The whole world knows John and the whole world will watch
him fall. I have no doubt the controller is elegant and functional although
it was designed before the process was understood, the proverbial cart
before the horse. I truly believe if he had stuck with Tom and I and learned
a little more, he or we could have taken the process all the way two years
ago. Unfortunately he wanted only to show his brothers who was the top dog.
He may come through yet but it's not likely. Do you think I'm happy
about any of this. Absolutely not. It makes me sick. I wanted it stopped
years ago but this goddamn web gave him the power to just lie more [...].
Bob
Read
the following list and tell me who they are talking about
Characteristics of pathological liars: [Source: http://wiki.answers.com]
- Exaggerates things
that are ridiculous.
- One-upping. Whatever
you do, this person can do it better. You will never top them in their
own mind, because they have a concerted need to be better than
everyone else. This also applies to being right. If you try to
confront an individual like this, no matter how lovingly and
well-intentioned you might be - this will probably not be effective.
It's threatening their fantasy of themselves, so they would rather
argue with you and bring out the sharp knives than admit that there's
anything wrong with them.
- They
"construct" a reality around themselves. They don't value
the truth, especially if they don't see it as hurting anyone. If you
call them on a lie and they are backed into a corner, they will act
very defensively and say ugly things (most likely but depends on
personality), but they may eventually start to act like, "Well,
what's the difference? You're making a big deal out of nothing!"
(again, to refocus the conversation to your wrongdoing instead of
theirs).
- Because these people
don't value honesty, a lot of times they will not value loyalty. So
watch what you tell them. They will not only tell others, but they
will embellish to make you look worse. Their loyalty is fleeting, and
because they are insecure people, they will find solace in confiding
to whomever is in their favor at the moment.
- Obviously, they will
contradict what they say. This will become very clear over time. they
usually aren't smart enough to keep track of so many lies (who would
be?).
- They lie about even
the smallest things.
- They add
exaggerations to every sentence.
- They change their
story all the time.
- They act very
defensively when you question their statements.
- They believe what
they say is true, when everyone else knows it isn't.
- Lies to get
sympathy, to look better, to save their butt, etc.
- Fools people at
first but once they get to know him, no one believes anything they
ever say.
- May have a
personality disorder.
- Extremely
manipulative.
- Has been caught in
lies repeatedly.
- Never fesses up to
the lies.
- Is a legend in their
own mind.
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Attack the Messenger
This arrived from John.
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From:
John Rohner
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 10:27 AM [MDT]
Subject: Document request
Dear Sterling
Please provide a current copy of your Resume. (official request).
Now that you have made your statements I presume you have no problem being
"looked" at, as you have "allegedly" done us.
Also be advised that all the media I was "holding off" to give
you the scoop is now being invited to come by and "verify" your
report and what we have and who we are.
Sorry, I really wanted to help you. Now that the knife is in my back I
understand all the "warnings" I got from those who do know you.
We will be happily publishing our own "expose".
Sincerely
John
p.s. one of the magazines just got here for our interview. We will start by
presenting them your last 3 stories. This should be fun.
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Stragglers
Here are a few miscellaneous things that have come along since I wrote the
above.
John Not Invited to Netherlands
On the home page at http://Inteligentry.com John says
(slightly edited) :
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...Oh well, we know Sterling well now! Tana
really appreciates being called a "crook" by him too.
He knows everything about everything.
It should come as no secret that all the
"first edition" stuff Sterling was going to get will go to
others now as we reset our interview schedule to those we had turned off. Thank
you, we will make sure to mention him as well there. ALSO- I have also
been asked to speak at the Netherland's conference, we will see..
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1) I never called Tana a "crook."
2) John has not been invited to speak at the GlobalBEM
Netherlands conference, according to its organizer.
Popper Boobies
August 25; 8:00 am MDT
This comment by John was found in a noble gas engine fan group on Facebook,
that one of our readers passed along. (Slightly edited.)
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Paying
someone to do a evaluation is a "standard" part of production
testing. I could give a damn about anyone else's opinion as I am hiring
experts to tell me proper answers and wring out any bugs. I suggest you
consider just how you think it should be done. Hand it off to some nut
without any expertise and hope he does not hurt himself? Give me, and any
other company moving toward production and public announcement, a break.
And Rob I agree with you. The Popper is simply a way to take the BOOBees
and keep them happy. No one wants anyone they can not trust to do
anything with the ready to market product prior to their being ready to
sell it. Even car companies have strict contracts for new cars prior to
"show time".
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According to wikipedia, a
"boobie" is a foolish person.
Censorship
On August 25, 2012 11:12 AM [MDT], at the end of an email asking why I
didn't send him my resume as he requested (), John concluded:
So with this we have no reason to be in contact.
You have no friends here [...].
Goodbye
So my response was directed to Dan and Tana.
Tana
and Dan,
My Resume has been published publicly for some 13 years. A simple Google
search pulls it up. I'm not hiding anything.
I just though that the terms of Johns request were inappropriate. It came
across like a way for him to find some way to attack me personally. Read
his email to me that I've posted at #Attack_the_Messenger
My Dad is an atomic clock physicist, recently recognized as "Time
Lord". http://AllansTIME.com
I just mention that to illustrate that I'm no dummy.
Don't let John buffalo you with his claims to credentials, specialists,
etc., when some good ol' common sense is all you need to see through him.
His behavior is totally consistent with many other scammers I've exposed
over the years, though he certainly has his own unique twist to it.
I would like nothing more than to be wrong. But because so many people have
gone to you based on my earlier recommendations, I feel duty bound to let
them all know that I no longer hold the positive opinion that I used to;
and why.
Yes, I could have waited a couple of weeks until the manufacturer's meeting
to do the expose, and then John would most likely come up with yet another
reason to postpone showing the manufacturers how to get an engine running;
meanwhile a bunch more people, based on my earlier positive reviews, would
be putting their money into stock, only for it to end up bombing in the
end.
I predict no working device Dec. 11. Of that I'm 99% sure. I'd love to be
wrong about that. But because the red flags are so many, someone has to say
"but he doesn't have any clothes!"
Sterling... |
I then received this email from John
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From:
John Rohner
To: Sterling Allan
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2012 3:56 PM
Subject: contact
Dear Sterling
As of 2:52 pm PST 08/25/12 you have permission to contact Inteligentry only
thru this email.
No phone, or personal entry's will be allowed. Nor will any E Mail to any
other delivery location.
You have no access to anyone but John Rohner.
Also may I remind you that any publishing of any data about Inteligentry
without my specific written permission is also barred.
Keep in Mind Bob has NO assets, You do.
Thank You
John P Rohner
CEO Inteligentry.com
cc legal
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So one email says he's done talking to me. And the next one says that I
should only talk to him, no one else at Inteligentry.
Postscript
August 25; 9:00 am MDT
I'm not at all sorry for the exposé I've done. In my opinion, John is showing
his true colors to everyone, and his true nature is coming across very clear.
It's sad. I feel like I've lost a good friend, though it turns out that the
person I thought I knew never existed.
If John was genuine and truly had working engines as he claims, and he truly
had a policy of "uncredibility" serving a valuable purpose, he
would be grateful for my stories for giving him more of that image. That he
has become so cantankerous toward me in his statements on his site and in
emails to people, indicates that this exposé is on target.
Nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong in my assessment about
John by him showing a working engine along the lines that he has claimed,
first to his team, privately, then publicly. If I had a good glimmer of hope
that this might be the case, I would have not written what I have above.
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