John, a few months ago they were talking about the FED doing a QE3 and shortly thereafter, someone decided to change it to a Stimulus. Check this out.. 08/17/2012 |
[cruiser] Hi and good evening everyone!!! Please pay attention to this. As Stated today, QE3 has happened along with the ECB Stimulus package (shadowed by the hint and speculated by the market). Explained this afternoon how and why and what indicators have shown us this. THE ACTUAL ANNOUNCEMENTS From the FED WILL NOT HAPPEN!!!!
What will happen and what are you talking about will be the questions and for good concern. WE are at a time where Banking changes are occuring and have been for some time. Currency will be backed by gold and/or other hard assets. This means the USD will no longer be the currency that all other currencies and commodities peg/use as the tradeable currency.
With this change The USD will non existent and replaced with the UST Note/dollar ( Just like the opposite change of the UST note going goodbye and the FED dollar replacing it). How and when this will take place. I DO NOT KNOW.
[Jeff] cruiser wow flipping knew it but I could not verify thanks DUDE pard ole buddy LOL now I am wide awake yeppeeee
[MtnStar] cruiser that is spot on with what my international financer friends are telling me
What will happen and what are you talking about will be the questions and for good concern. WE are at a time where Banking changes are occuring and have been for some time. Currency will be backed by gold and/or other hard assets. This means the USD will no longer be the currency that all other currencies and commodities peg/use as the tradeable currency.
With this change The USD will non existent and replaced with the UST Note/dollar ( Just like the opposite change of the UST note going goodbye and the FED dollar replacing it). How and when this will take place. I DO NOT KNOW.
[Jeff] cruiser wow flipping knew it but I could not verify thanks DUDE pard ole buddy LOL now I am wide awake yeppeeee
[MtnStar] cruiser that is spot on with what my international financer friends are telling me
Tenizen] Cruiser what does this mean to us laymons?
[Jeff] MtnStar I spent all day trying to flipping verify this and I am exhausted now cruiser did it wow I am so thrilled
[Jeff] Tenizen the cover story has begun
[ready4riches] cruiser cruiser means the end of the fed?
[musiccitylady] ok, what exactly does this mean? I am confused. Make it plain n simple for me please
[virgorabbit] i guess Im dense...what does this mean for our CE?
[highlander65] cruiser So QE3 has happened but meanwhile there are reporters claiming it will not happen.... where was it stated?
[dealdoctor] cruiser would that QE3 be in the USA and the FED not mention it ..I get that ECB stimulus is happening in the European Union...SO...what pressure does this put for our RV to happen or delay?
bebba] dealdoctor so last week early this week when they were saying on CNBC no QE3 right now... it was smoke?
[musiccitylady] honeybelle I need it made simplier
musiccitylady] but what will all this mean for the rv taking place? quickly or more delays now?
[moonchild] what I do not understand is why QE3 would take place but be kept secret.
[highlander65] moonchild guess it is not time to be unveiled yet
honeybelle] I am trying to understand this I feel so dumb:(
[dealdoctor] honeybelle It is good news and explains WHY the markets have been so strange AND it is preliminary to our RV
[dealdoctor] Jeff You got independently of cruiser that the ECB did their stimulus and the FED did QE3 but FED will not announce it?
cruiser] Guys, understand, there will be no report or news because there will be NO Formal ANNOUCNEMENT. There was an article either WED or THURS. that talked about this hidden QE3. The end of July, we has a WED and THURS. that everyone expected an annoucement of stimulus and QE3. That did not happen. What Happened was they let the Hedge Funds take over the markets and run Both markets up. Just from a simple promise (that has been said numerous times before) from the ECB, The European markets went crazy. Now with all of the speculation on QE3, in the media, the job was done. QE3 is now priced in the markets and THe FED never has to announce it.
[cruiser] Article was on CNBC
[bebba] Cruiser... makes sense as to why the markets have stayed propped up for the last couple of weeks... see it now..
[dealdoctor] cruiser The CNBC article said something about a "hidden QE3" or do I misunderstand what CNBC said? Also this makes perfect sense WHY the markets have been so HIGH and the real economy so HARSH! Insiders knew of a hidden stimulus especially the hedge funds. Correct?
[highlander65] cruiser OK so why would they do it this way-- just as a cover for our baby and to be less obvious so people not in the know would not get all crazy with more printing dollars out of thin air?
[cruiser] highlander65 to avoid politics
[cruiser] highlander65 They are not going to print any more worthless dollars.
[greek1212] cruiser if QE3 has happen quietly and we havent seen our RV is that not a bad situation for us to be in???
[cruiser] greek1212 No. It had to happen. first. Should mean we are in the process.
[~healthy3] cruiser I was asking if that info will move the announcement of the IQD rv? What we are waiting for
[~healthy3] dealdoctor ty. so now we should see the rv, correct?
[cruiser] ~healthy3 I have not figured out the entire process. Once I do, I believe it will not matter.
[highlander65] cruiser but that's what QE is all about?
[mbillions] cruiser Ok.. so our currency is now backed by assets... the federal reserve note is no more... QE
[dealdoctor] ~healthy3 we will...all this says to me we are closer...no rate or date from this guy...:)
[cruiser] goofy Hinted more toward the ECB and Europe, but talked a little about QE3
[~healthy3] cruiser IMO, you are a lot smarter than I am
[mbillions] QE3 has been released, now what? crusier
cruiser] mbillions Not that it is realeased. The markets took the lack of movement and ran with it. Saving the FED from doing anything.
[diverdown] All currencies pairs stopped trading at 17:00 hours but USD/IQD is still updating as of a couple minutes ago. The EUR/IQD last updated at 18:57 hours. The USD/IQD updates to Bid 1162.75 Ask 1168.50 then changes back to Bid 1165.50 Ask 1165.50
[diverdown] pick3king yes there is. I do not know what it means, but it is interesting
[diverdown] FOREX IS suppose to be closed
[misskitty05] cruiser I thought they were going to announce QE3 in part to explain the sudden infusion of cash, and consumer spending resulting from the RV? If QE3 has already occurred and won't be announced, how does the positive change in consumer spending (houses, cars vactiobs etc get explained?)
[dealdoctor] cruiser THANK you for your intell tonight you are a CHAMPION....how few in America have this information...we are blessed and have a blessing on the way...I see the first world becoming the second world and the second world becoming the first world and the poor third world has no change
[mbillions] cruiser I apologize... I misunderstood you... I thought you said QE3 has happend...
[goofy] cruiser do you think the hidden QE3 and the changing to the UST notes and to an asset based currency are all tied together?
[cruiser] goofy Yes. Just do not know how and when it will all play out.
[dealdoctor] diverdown IS that Forex or just a currency website?
[Jeff] cruiser STILL HERE THINKING COULD QE4 being September announcement but veiled as QE3? Then RV? Plot thickens
[diverdown] dealdoctor NETDANIA still showing the USD/IQD updated while all other pairs stopped at 17:00 hours. WHich is when the forex closes for the weekend
[diverdown] dealdoctor the only pair updating is the USD/IQD. Very Strange
[misskitty05] cruiser I made a comment along those lies earlier today and someone suggested that the amount of cash infusion we are expecting from the RV would be noticed in a minute .. no way to hide it... do you agree?
[cruiser] misskitty05 It will remain hidden. There wil be other issues, think that will ahve tobe addressed other than our Dinar.
[highlander65] cruiser so just saying they are doing it caused the same effect therefore no longer necessary
[2mater] cruiser the suggestion of this from the Fed Res brought this on
[highlander65] diverdown dealdoctor can anyone else confirm what diverdown is seeing??/
[misskitty05] diverdown let's hope it means something!
[Jeff] I need to confirm this with my banker friends
[dealdoctor] highlander65 I do not have access to those kinds of websites. I do know they are NOT official but it is weird nontheless
[diverdown] Jeff the bid and ask changes and the time is updating for the USD/IQD
[diverdown] Jeff great please confirm
[Jeff] dealdoctor this may just be only testing folks not anything official
[dealdoctor] Jeff yes.. a trial run comes before the RUN! So RUN it already!
[ForHim] diverdown thx
[sonnayhwh] Jeff - Do you know of other times the Forex has moved after hours?
[diverdown] sonnayhwh not me
cruiser] 2mater Yes it did. Also Suggestion and words from the ECB.
[2mater] Jeff operative word being 'may' - hope not
[sonnayhwh] diverdown - h-e-a-r- that is! lol
[Jeff] sonnayhwh I would not call it movement I would call it testing...calling people now LOL
[diverdown] sonnayhwh good question though I would like to here what others have to say
[pmw1973] ive seen net dania down to 1130 .... months ago and baam! back to 1165
[diverdown] pmw1973 forex is closed but the USD/IQD is still updating
cruiser] 2mater Yes. The markets would be on a sell of by now, like all the other times words were spoken and nothing happend. This time is not the case and markets are staying strong.
sonnayhwh] cruiser - Did I understand earlier that the QE3 was to be "hidden", and that meaning there would not be an increase of amount of currency in circulation?
[cruiser] sonnayhwh Yes that is correct.
[sonnayhwh] cruiser - Thx, soooo. . . .then the only other option would be to increase the value of the currency that is already in circulation. . .I think I like what I'm hearing! TY!
[moonchild] I keep wondering how long the reset/RVs can be postponed.
ontime] I like what I am reading tonight and the fact that 7 of the last 9 revalues in Iraq have happened on a Friday. Lol
[2mater] Jess/Cruiser - I have both of you a couple of times ?'s about educational/experience background and you both claim 'oh, just ordinary invested guy' -think you lied lol
cruiser] 2mater I am serious. I do talk with some finance people, and bounce thoughts of of them. When one of them says to me, "I make a lot of sense", I know I have something.
[sananddan24] Did someone say that the IQD and USD is still updating?
[SGD3] sananddan24 It is on Netdania, about every three minutes
[Jeff] oK back sorry my banker buddies told me this is most likely testing, after arguing with each other we all agreed this must be testing for what maybe something good coming next week who knows ? they do not know for sure either. Sorry, trying
[ontime] Jeff This would be the perfect time then...we are not expecting it until next week. Lol
[sonnayhwh] Jeff - Thx for the update. And doesn't Forex start their week Sunday afternoon?
diverdown] sonnayhwh yes
pmw1973] okie stated forex or something a time frame is between sat 6pm cst till 5pm sun ....anyone remember/confirm
[tootygal] pmw1973 He said that is when all the banks around the world are closed...and that would be a great time to do the RV???
[ken153] pmw1973 yes thats when forex is closed
[Jeff] I think what Cruiser shared earlier is much more merit than the Forex stuff guys because what Curiser confirmed is the cover story
[diverdown] Jeff thanks for checking
[diverdown] Jeff its is strange out of the currencies in the world the pair which is still updating in USD/IQD
diverdown] Jeff hopefully testing for our BIG Day
[Jeff] MtnStar I spent all day trying to flipping verify this and I am exhausted now cruiser did it wow I am so thrilled
[Jeff] Tenizen the cover story has begun
[ready4riches] cruiser cruiser means the end of the fed?
[musiccitylady] ok, what exactly does this mean? I am confused. Make it plain n simple for me please
[virgorabbit] i guess Im dense...what does this mean for our CE?
[highlander65] cruiser So QE3 has happened but meanwhile there are reporters claiming it will not happen.... where was it stated?
[dealdoctor] cruiser would that QE3 be in the USA and the FED not mention it ..I get that ECB stimulus is happening in the European Union...SO...what pressure does this put for our RV to happen or delay?
bebba] dealdoctor so last week early this week when they were saying on CNBC no QE3 right now... it was smoke?
[musiccitylady] honeybelle I need it made simplier
musiccitylady] but what will all this mean for the rv taking place? quickly or more delays now?
[moonchild] what I do not understand is why QE3 would take place but be kept secret.
[highlander65] moonchild guess it is not time to be unveiled yet
honeybelle] I am trying to understand this I feel so dumb:(
[dealdoctor] honeybelle It is good news and explains WHY the markets have been so strange AND it is preliminary to our RV
[dealdoctor] Jeff You got independently of cruiser that the ECB did their stimulus and the FED did QE3 but FED will not announce it?
cruiser] Guys, understand, there will be no report or news because there will be NO Formal ANNOUCNEMENT. There was an article either WED or THURS. that talked about this hidden QE3. The end of July, we has a WED and THURS. that everyone expected an annoucement of stimulus and QE3. That did not happen. What Happened was they let the Hedge Funds take over the markets and run Both markets up. Just from a simple promise (that has been said numerous times before) from the ECB, The European markets went crazy. Now with all of the speculation on QE3, in the media, the job was done. QE3 is now priced in the markets and THe FED never has to announce it.
[cruiser] Article was on CNBC
[bebba] Cruiser... makes sense as to why the markets have stayed propped up for the last couple of weeks... see it now..
[dealdoctor] cruiser The CNBC article said something about a "hidden QE3" or do I misunderstand what CNBC said? Also this makes perfect sense WHY the markets have been so HIGH and the real economy so HARSH! Insiders knew of a hidden stimulus especially the hedge funds. Correct?
[highlander65] cruiser OK so why would they do it this way-- just as a cover for our baby and to be less obvious so people not in the know would not get all crazy with more printing dollars out of thin air?
[cruiser] highlander65 to avoid politics
[cruiser] highlander65 They are not going to print any more worthless dollars.
[greek1212] cruiser if QE3 has happen quietly and we havent seen our RV is that not a bad situation for us to be in???
[cruiser] greek1212 No. It had to happen. first. Should mean we are in the process.
[~healthy3] cruiser I was asking if that info will move the announcement of the IQD rv? What we are waiting for
[~healthy3] dealdoctor ty. so now we should see the rv, correct?
[cruiser] ~healthy3 I have not figured out the entire process. Once I do, I believe it will not matter.
[highlander65] cruiser but that's what QE is all about?
[mbillions] cruiser Ok.. so our currency is now backed by assets... the federal reserve note is no more... QE
[dealdoctor] ~healthy3 we will...all this says to me we are closer...no rate or date from this guy...:)
[cruiser] goofy Hinted more toward the ECB and Europe, but talked a little about QE3
[~healthy3] cruiser IMO, you are a lot smarter than I am
[mbillions] QE3 has been released, now what? crusier
cruiser] mbillions Not that it is realeased. The markets took the lack of movement and ran with it. Saving the FED from doing anything.
[diverdown] All currencies pairs stopped trading at 17:00 hours but USD/IQD is still updating as of a couple minutes ago. The EUR/IQD last updated at 18:57 hours. The USD/IQD updates to Bid 1162.75 Ask 1168.50 then changes back to Bid 1165.50 Ask 1165.50
[diverdown] pick3king yes there is. I do not know what it means, but it is interesting
[diverdown] FOREX IS suppose to be closed
[misskitty05] cruiser I thought they were going to announce QE3 in part to explain the sudden infusion of cash, and consumer spending resulting from the RV? If QE3 has already occurred and won't be announced, how does the positive change in consumer spending (houses, cars vactiobs etc get explained?)
[dealdoctor] cruiser THANK you for your intell tonight you are a CHAMPION....how few in America have this information...we are blessed and have a blessing on the way...I see the first world becoming the second world and the second world becoming the first world and the poor third world has no change
[mbillions] cruiser I apologize... I misunderstood you... I thought you said QE3 has happend...
[goofy] cruiser do you think the hidden QE3 and the changing to the UST notes and to an asset based currency are all tied together?
[cruiser] goofy Yes. Just do not know how and when it will all play out.
[dealdoctor] diverdown IS that Forex or just a currency website?
[Jeff] cruiser STILL HERE THINKING COULD QE4 being September announcement but veiled as QE3? Then RV? Plot thickens
[diverdown] dealdoctor NETDANIA still showing the USD/IQD updated while all other pairs stopped at 17:00 hours. WHich is when the forex closes for the weekend
[diverdown] dealdoctor the only pair updating is the USD/IQD. Very Strange
[misskitty05] cruiser I made a comment along those lies earlier today and someone suggested that the amount of cash infusion we are expecting from the RV would be noticed in a minute .. no way to hide it... do you agree?
[cruiser] misskitty05 It will remain hidden. There wil be other issues, think that will ahve tobe addressed other than our Dinar.
[highlander65] cruiser so just saying they are doing it caused the same effect therefore no longer necessary
[2mater] cruiser the suggestion of this from the Fed Res brought this on
[highlander65] diverdown dealdoctor can anyone else confirm what diverdown is seeing??/
[misskitty05] diverdown let's hope it means something!
[Jeff] I need to confirm this with my banker friends
[dealdoctor] highlander65 I do not have access to those kinds of websites. I do know they are NOT official but it is weird nontheless
[diverdown] Jeff the bid and ask changes and the time is updating for the USD/IQD
[diverdown] Jeff great please confirm
[Jeff] dealdoctor this may just be only testing folks not anything official
[dealdoctor] Jeff yes.. a trial run comes before the RUN! So RUN it already!
[ForHim] diverdown thx
[sonnayhwh] Jeff - Do you know of other times the Forex has moved after hours?
[diverdown] sonnayhwh not me
cruiser] 2mater Yes it did. Also Suggestion and words from the ECB.
[2mater] Jeff operative word being 'may' - hope not
[sonnayhwh] diverdown - h-e-a-r- that is! lol
[Jeff] sonnayhwh I would not call it movement I would call it testing...calling people now LOL
[diverdown] sonnayhwh good question though I would like to here what others have to say
[pmw1973] ive seen net dania down to 1130 .... months ago and baam! back to 1165
[diverdown] pmw1973 forex is closed but the USD/IQD is still updating
cruiser] 2mater Yes. The markets would be on a sell of by now, like all the other times words were spoken and nothing happend. This time is not the case and markets are staying strong.
sonnayhwh] cruiser - Did I understand earlier that the QE3 was to be "hidden", and that meaning there would not be an increase of amount of currency in circulation?
[cruiser] sonnayhwh Yes that is correct.
[sonnayhwh] cruiser - Thx, soooo. . . .then the only other option would be to increase the value of the currency that is already in circulation. . .I think I like what I'm hearing! TY!
[moonchild] I keep wondering how long the reset/RVs can be postponed.
ontime] I like what I am reading tonight and the fact that 7 of the last 9 revalues in Iraq have happened on a Friday. Lol
[2mater] Jess/Cruiser - I have both of you a couple of times ?'s about educational/experience background and you both claim 'oh, just ordinary invested guy' -think you lied lol
cruiser] 2mater I am serious. I do talk with some finance people, and bounce thoughts of of them. When one of them says to me, "I make a lot of sense", I know I have something.
[sananddan24] Did someone say that the IQD and USD is still updating?
[SGD3] sananddan24 It is on Netdania, about every three minutes
[Jeff] oK back sorry my banker buddies told me this is most likely testing, after arguing with each other we all agreed this must be testing for what maybe something good coming next week who knows ? they do not know for sure either. Sorry, trying
[ontime] Jeff This would be the perfect time then...we are not expecting it until next week. Lol
[sonnayhwh] Jeff - Thx for the update. And doesn't Forex start their week Sunday afternoon?
diverdown] sonnayhwh yes
pmw1973] okie stated forex or something a time frame is between sat 6pm cst till 5pm sun ....anyone remember/confirm
[tootygal] pmw1973 He said that is when all the banks around the world are closed...and that would be a great time to do the RV???
[ken153] pmw1973 yes thats when forex is closed
[Jeff] I think what Cruiser shared earlier is much more merit than the Forex stuff guys because what Curiser confirmed is the cover story
[diverdown] Jeff thanks for checking
[diverdown] Jeff its is strange out of the currencies in the world the pair which is still updating in USD/IQD
diverdown] Jeff hopefully testing for our BIG Day
2 comments:
A lot of geopolitical maneuvering and economic negotiation is needed to right the world and make this RV a success.
I believe important and needed changes are happening now that must be viewed in a context.
The old fiat system is past the point of diminishing returns. Something must be done or it will soon fail.
BRICS alliance and the League of Non-Aligned countries are pressing the issue.
G-5 countries are hopelessly in debt, with weakening currencies.. The Euro is tanking.
It's looking more and more like Euroland will split... Or at least separate into two factions. The obvious line of demarcation being Catholic/Protestant. Not religious... Just sayin
China must remain pegged to $USD or their currency will inflate
The whole mess is deflationary.
Israel, with UN and US backing is threatening military aggression with ME neighbors.
Iraq is still weak and unstable. They have a lot of excess Dinar that needs to be removed from the economy. Also they must de-dollarize before moving ahead with plans to raise the value of Dinar.
Russia and China are negotiating for peace in Syria and Iran.
The ECB forced the EU issue by refusing as of last month to honor worthless Greek govt bonds in payment of debts... 3.2 billion Euros coming due Aug 20 2012.
Within this context some interesting things have apparently been taking place.
- Latest scuttlebutt courtesy of Tom Heneghan is Israel's PM Netanyahu purchased a huge reserve of Iraqi Dinar with US Foreign Aid money based on US promises to reimburse. It wast then wired it to the National Bank of Italy who converted it into Euros and wired it to Greek bank accounts in Luxembourg where it would leave no paper trail.
The whole USD/IQD transaction would have occurred 'off the books' and was most likely used to grease the wheels of progress between the factions of Iraq. Those Dinar will never hit the street and those dollars will probably wind up in private accounts in Europe.
Sound complicated?
Money laundering often is.
But there you have it.
Therein lies the hidden QE3
And therein lies the ME peace.
If all this is true, I believe we will see the RV very soon.
Is Italy re-capitalizing with the Iraqi Dinar RV?
Believe it or not, when this RV happens, If the entire 3.2 Billion Euro tranche was paid for with IQD... - those near worthless Iraqi notes could be worth up to roughly 3.3 trillion Euros. - ball park fugure.. If it RVs higher than the Euro... GOD only knows.
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