Tuesday, December 11, 2012

I Regret to Inform You That . . . . . . . .

The originally proposed 13th Amendment was not properly ratified. This is not the conclusion that I wanted share with you, but in the process of doing my research I have discovered some compelling evidence that has caused me to come to this conclusion. Read the following evidence and draw your own conclusion.
Vermont was not a state when the Bill of Rights was presented to the states for ratification. Vermont became a state on March 4, 1791 and voted to ratify the Bill of Rights in November of 1791. Louisiana was not a state when the proposed 13th Amendment was submitted to the states for ratification. Before Vermont became a state there were 13 states and 10 states would have been required to achieve a three fourths majority. After Vermont was admitted there were 14 states and 11 states would have been necessary for ratification. Before Louisiana was admitted as a new state, there were 17 states and 13 of the states would need to ratify the amendment. After Louisiana was admitted there were 18 states and 14 would have been necessary to ratify the proposed amendment. Based upon this premise, the 13th Amendment was not properly ratified. If you disagree would you explain why Vermont was eligible to vote on ratification and Louisiana was not.
Louisiana did not participate in the ratification process. In order for the amendment to be properly ratified it would have needed the approval of 14 states. As a matter of fact the amendment was not even discussed by the Louisiana State Legislature. The Constitution does not require states to vote for or against ratification, it only demands the approval of three fourths of the states.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

To the person who did this research. Now please move on to other amendments that were allegedly ratified and lets throw them all in a pot and stew them. Whats good for one is good for all.
As I understand it- there a others that were never properly ratified yet they still use them.
Was the inorganic 13th properly ratified?

Unknown said...

That does suck, however no worries, there still is no congressional mandate for the BAR attorneys to be able to operate lawfully in the courts. So we still have dirt on em ;-)

Anonymous said...

I've read this ..

HOWEVER .. If not ratified, why would it have been published as part of the constitution? - From multiple states? - For roughly 50 years?

Can that be proven? - I dunno ..

Personally, I don't have a physical copy of a constitution from the mid 1800's. - I do have a pdf of an old school book .. which does contain it and I find that very interesting ..

The young American
or, Book of government and law, showing their history, nature and necessity.
Ed. 3.

Published 1843 by Robinson in New York .

art.Xiii
title of nobility
pg 211

BTW - this book is ONLINE @ >

http://openlibrary.org/works/OL1638561W/The_young_American



Anonymous said...

With all the disinformation out there I'd be alittle leary of what i read without cross refrencing.I saw a copy of the original 13th amendment in a small library in Belfast Maine

donald wayne said...

Says who?

Anonymous said...

I'll give you enough info to make a determination for yourself:

...the ratification process for this article of amendment to the Constitution for the United States -- which was first rediscovered in a book of State law for Maine [4] by David Dodge and Tom Dunn and made public knowledge again -- was lawfully completed. For many years Mr. Dodge has been convinced that this article was properly ratified and then unlawfully suppressed, and he has called it the "Original Thirteenth Amendment."

There, research David Dodge and Tom Dunn and make up your own mind. I, personally, am convinced that our wonderful government has exercised unlawful suppression of truth to the advantage of the CORPORATE UNITED STATES.

Ask yourself, "How many families have been ruined by a LIE?" Well, if the lawyer said it was true and the judge said it was true, I better believe it.

I can always tell when a gubm't agent is lying - their lips are moving.

Dan said...

Statehood Dates:
http://www.50states.com/statehood.htm#.UMdt1azZeuI

Anonymous said...

Well, so much for all the talk about lawyers corrupting the US. (they do) Now what? Wasn't this one of the points of Nesara too? Removal of lawyers who are esquires and have given oath to the crown or something. So what if more points of Nesara are bogus. (I bet they are) My goodness, ton of time wasted talking about that point! I hope someone can prove this article wrong. Live and learn.

Fitz said...

Louisiana is under Napoleonic Law. Not Constitutional Law. There's your answer. The Amendment was properly ratified. Do your research a little better and, you will find that there is always a reason.

Anonymous said...

James Monroe submitted the 13th amendment and it was properly ratified. Don't be so quick to believe jokers like the author of this article.

Anonymous said...

The 13th Amendment was proposed in the 11th (eleventh) Congress (March 4, 1809 to March 4, 1811) during its second session. It passed by well over the 2/3 majority required in both houses of Congress. At that moment in time there existed 17 (seventeen) member states in the United States of America. A number exceeding a 3/4 majority of those 17 states was all that was required to ratify the 13th Amendment. That number is 12.75 or 13 states. http://americannationalmilitia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/The-American-State-Papers-1834-Titles-of-Nobility.pdf
The Congressional record dated February 3, 1818 states that as of the 10th of December 1812, 12 (twelve) states had ratified it, 4 (four) on various other dates had rejected it and, one (Virginia) had not yet decided. http://americannationalmilitia.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/LAW_-Original-Constitution_of_the_United_States-1.pdf
Virginia, the last to be counted of the 17 states in existence when Congress proposed the 13th Amendment, ratified it and officially published it as an integral part of the The Constitution of the United State on March 12, 1819.
It was further published as ratified dozens of times in official state publications, educational materials, reference materials and US military manuals.
The 13th Amendment is the Law of this Land. Therefore all members of the American BAR (British Accredited Registry) are outlaws here and none are not the lawful pier of any United States citizen.

Unknown said...

The vote would not have counted against until they became a state.

Anonymous said...

A few years back a group of us looked into this and what we found: Virginia, the last to be counted of the 17 states in existence when Congress proposed the 13th Amendment, ratified it and officially published it as an integral part of the The Constitution of the United State on March 12, 1819.

You are pushing dis-information!

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