Stewart Rhodes With David Codrea: Drones Not The Only Problem

Stewart Rhodes With David Codrea: Drones Not The Only Problem

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Date: Saturday, 9-Mar-2013 16:49:27

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2013/03/08/stewart-rhodes-with-david-codrea-drones-not-the-only-problem/ Stewart Rhodes With David Codrea: Drones Not The Only Problem ...-begin quoting Stewart Rhodes- Gents, Caught Mike’s comment on his site: I was talking to David Codrea this morning and he brought up a good point. Don’t focus on Holder’s claim of domestic drone strike legitimacy and think all he’s talking about is drone killings. Understand that if the claim extends to drones it extends to every killing tactic and platform available. What Holder is claiming is the right to kill American citizens by executive diktat using any means necessary — including federal police Einsatzgruppen. - Exactly. It is about the application of the laws of war to Americans, and under such laws of war, and such rules of engagement, the government could use any killing method that can be used in war – bullets, bombs, missiles (whether fired from a drone or by a pilot in a plane), mines, grenades, or a blade in the back. Here is what I wrote about this back in 2004, in my Yale Law School research paper, titled “Solving the Puzzle of Enemy Combatant Status“, pg 66-70 (footnotes omitted): ... ... In their day, the attempt to disarm them was the final straw, but it lay atop a long train of abuses. Likewise, the attempt to disarm us may well be the final trigger, but the heart and soul of the collision course we are on is the assertion that the President can ignore the Bill of Rights and treat America the same as occupied Iraq or Afghanistan, using the international laws of war to justify acting like an elected dictator with absolute power of life and death over all of us. And it may well be the use of military force (targeted killing) or military detention on a “patriot” group or individual that sparks it. Further, Congress does not need to pass new “gun control” for Obama to come for our guns. He can just assert that he faces domestic military enemies in the “war on terror” – such as the militias and three percenters, or us pesky Oath Keepers – and then apply the laws of war to Battlefield USA. While doing so, he will argue that if individuals or groups he has designated as unlawful “enemy combatants” can just be killed on sight, surely they have no “right” to bear arms and can also be disarmed, and to do so, no warrant will be necessary. Hence, the first four of our list of Ten Orders We Will Not Obey all work together, seamlessly: 1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people. 2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people 3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as “unlawful enemy combatants” or to subject them to military tribunal. 4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a “state of emergency” on a state. The assertion that the President can apply the laws of war to Americans is essentially a form of martial law, which has been defined as being nothing more than “the will of the commander on the battlefield.” It is what is done to a conquered enemy nation, such as we did to conquered Japan and Germany, or conquered Iraq and Afghanistan. What has been done to them will now be done to us – unless we stop it. Stewart Rhodes http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=271353