Local ‘sovereign’ leader convicted of conspiracy, tax evasion
Posted: 03/22/2013 8:13 PM
A federal jury convicted an Ozark man on Friday of multiple felony charges related to a conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government and tax evasion.
James Timothy Turner, 57, was found guilty after a five-day trial that took place in U.S. Judge Myron Thompson’s courtroom in Montgomery this week.
According to a U.S. Department of Justice press release, Turner was convicted of conspiracy to defraud the U.S., attempting to pay taxes with fictitious financial instruments, attempting to obstruct and impede the Internal Revenue Service, failing to file a 2009 federal income tax return and falsely testifying under oath in a bankruptcy proceeding.
The FBI began investigating Turner in 2010 after he and three other people sent packages to all 50 governors demanding they leave office.
Turner is the president of a group of what prosecutors called “sovereign citizens” known as the “Republic for the united States of America.”
Turner toured the country in 2008 and 2009 teaching seminars that instructed attendees how to submit bonds to pay off tax debt.
According to prosecutors, these bonds were completely fictitious and often written for amounts in excess of $1 billion.
“Witnesses at trial testified that Turner used special paper, financial terminology, and elaborate borders in an effort to make the fake bonds look ‘real’ and … more likely to succeed in defrauding the IRS,” according to the Department of Justice press release.
The jury found Turner guilty of submitting a $300 million fake bond in his own name and helping send at least 15 others to the U.S. Department of Treasury.
Turner also filed a $17.6 billion maritime lien against an individual in Montgomery County Probate Court as part of a retaliatory practice he taught at his seminars.
The press release states that Turner remains in federal custody pending sentencing.
He faces a maximum of 164 years in prison, a maximum fine of $2.35 million and mandatory restitution.
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Teri
"A nation...cannot survive treason from within...the traitor ...wears the face of his victims,...and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly...he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared......." Cicero, 42 B.C.E.
"A nation...cannot survive treason from within...the traitor ...wears the face of his victims,...and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation—he works secretly...he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared......." Cicero, 42 B.C.E.
16 comments:
An oxymoron - how can you defraud the IRS, which is the biggest fraud in existence...
AS MUCH AS I DON'T LIKE TIM TURNER LET US LOOK AT THIS:
A. ATTEMPTING TO DEFRAUD THE US (FAKE GOVERNMENBT) ......WOW MAN DEFRAUD A FRADULENT CORPORATION POSING AS A GOVERNMENT..... HOW IS THAT??
B.ATTEMPTING TO PAY DEBT WITH FITICIOUS FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS..... IS THAT NOT WHAT BENNY BOY CREATES DAILY WHEN HE RUNS THE PRESSES?? ISN'T THAT WHAT THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS DONE SINCE 1903 CREATING COUNTERFIT DEBT INSTRUMENTS.
C.ATTEMPTING TO OBSTRUCT AND IMPEDE THE IRS.... THE IRS IS ABOUT AS ILLEGAL IN A CROCKED WAY AS YOU CAN GET AND EVERYONE SHOULD STOP PAYING THEM THE FRADULENT MOB CORPORATION EXTORTION PROTECTION FEES AS THEY ARE KNOWN TO STRONGARM US FOR... AT LEAST TIMMY HAS THE GUTTS TO TRY .... IF EVERYONE STOPPED PAYING THEM WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO??..... NOT MUCH
D.EVERY GOVENOR IN EVERY STATE SHOULD GO TO JAIL WITH TIMMY AS THEY ARE......ALL.......GUILTY OF CAFR FUND FRAUD AGAINST THE usa CITIZENS
I COULD GO ON FOR A LOT LONGER BUT THIS IS JUST THE IMMEDIATE THINGS SHOWING HOW OUR FRADULENT CORPORATION FRDULENT GOVERNMENT WORKS.... THESE GUYS WOULD MAKE AL CAPONE LOOK LIKE A PRE-SCHOOL KID...
I THINK WE usa CITZENS SHOULD (AS SOON AS THIS FRDULENT GOV GOES DOWN) DEMAND THE RELEASE OF ALL POLITICAL PRISONERS CONVICTED BY THESE MOB AHOS....
No different than what the usg does every day on a massive scale,, must have been jury rigging , a fully informed honest jury would never have convicted him , there should be a massive investigation asap...
What a freak'n fiasco the whole Turner 'thing' has turned out to be. This situation EXPOSES the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA INC - a fraudulent 'government' that prints fraudulent 'money' based on a 'promissory note' (NOT backed by any precious metals or minerals), and which has a fraudulent 'treasury' operating with a fraudulent 'tax' collection agency (IRS) with NO funds collected for the benefit of the American people or our nation, A 'GOVERNMENT' SYSTEM which EXTORTS FIAT 'money' from Americans - FINANCES that we DO NOT OWE, and which will then PROSECUTE YOU on FRAUDULENT CHARGES if you don't pay up, and which has in 'office' a fraudulent 'president' in the former 'white' house. Americans, let's take a closer look at this situation - THIS WHOLE NATION OPERATES ON A TOTALLY FRAUDULENT 'GOVERNMENT' system which has the balls to prosecute, lie to the jury and find 'guilty' of fraudulent financial dealings a man who, through his unlawful actions was, in fact, EXPOSING the TRUTH of the entire FRAUDULENT 'government' system to the American public and, in so doing, was using the very 'system' in place in this nation to accomplish this. The system charged Turner as being guilty of the EXACT SAME UNLAWFUL FINANCIAL DEALINGS AS WHAT THIS FRAUDULENT GOVERNMENT IS DOING??? Doesn't anyone SEE THIS? FOLKS, YOU DON'T OWE THE IRS OR THIS FRAUDULENT 'GOVERNMENT' ONE DARN THING. THIS FRAUDULENT 'GOVERNMENT' HAS MORE MONIES IN THE SECRET CAFR FUNDS THAN YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE. THE STATES AND THE SO CALLED 'FEDERAL GOVERNMENT' DON'T NEED THE EXTORTED 'TAXES' FROM WE THE PEOPLE. IF ALL AMERICANS WOULD REFUSE TO 'FILE' THE EXTORTION PAPERWORK AND REFUSE TO 'PAY' THESE CROOKS WITH THEIR PROMISSORY NOTES ON OR BEFORE APRIL 15TH - ALL AMERICANS STANDING TOGETHER - WE CAN MAKE THE POINT THAT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH AND WE ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW THEM TO SCREW WITH US ANY MORE! WHY DO AMERICANS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO CONTINUE TO BE SLAVES AND VICTIMS OF OUTRIGHT FRAUD AND EXTORTION? Do you not see the bizzarness of the charges against Turner when this same rogue make believe 'government' is DOING THE EXACT SAME THINGS - including STEALING YOUR FUNDS, RETIREMENTS, BANK ACCOUNTS, PROPERTIES, YOUR SOVEREIGNTY AND YOUR NATION? While I do not agree with what Turner did - I believe we can use his experience as a perfect example of just how ridiculous and bizarre the US 'GOVERNMENT' AND ALL ITS UNLAWFUL NAZI 'BROTHER' DEPARTMENTS ARE and what it is has done to you and to me. I'm sick and tired of being broke and living just above the curb, and I'm MAD AS HELL. I've had ENOUGH. FIGHT TO GET YOUR COUNTRY BACK or die from the treasonous unlawful actions soon to down upon your heads.
We know the whole UNITED STATES INC. IS A SCAM. The only way out is to disassemble the CORPORATIONS. Otherwise all who do not want to contract with them WILL GO TO JAIL because the courts are corrupt. DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO DISMANTLE TO CORPORATIONS??
I've been told that Turner was a plant by the Bush people to offer controlled opposition, gather names of "patriots" for eventual roundup and prosecution, and gather more "followers" as he could. While I have no proof, it appears this is what he was doing, when his followers were put in jail they were basically forgotten because Turner never provided a remedy for that, which I found interesting. That being said, prosecuting this man using fraudulent laws, with a fictional "government" and corrupt justice system isn't right. Why is it we condemn these criminal acts by "government" when it's someone we like, but applaud them when it's someone we don't like? FIND THE TRUE EVIDENCE OF THE REAL CRIME COMMITTED HERE AND PROSECUTE THAT THEN WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO SEE THE REAL CRIMINALS REVEALED. Does the human race deserve the truth, or the same old BS???
Fraud begets fraud. The man is a friggin' d******bag and a criminal. I cry no tears for Timothy Turner, nor anyone else who was flim-flammed into supporting him with their hard-earned dollars. That being said, it's just a small fish being swallowed by a whale...mothing to see here, folks. Move along.
Howdy.
i guess those DUMB ASS JURORS have never heard of JURY NULLIFICATION.
if i had a been on the jury it woud of been a HUNG JURY.
Semper Fi.
Jim.
Ridiculous.
He says he's sovereign and then let 'citizens' (who are under government control) decide his future?
His system gave just enough to give the truth about our freedom, but not enough for those exercising that freedom to defend it.
One has to be in the right 'spiritual development or growth' in order to exercise the true freedoms of a sovereign. When One reaches that "Christ Conscience" level of development, then scruples come into play. There are just some things you would not do, even if you could get away with it because the Conscience would be the guide and you'd be guided in the light and want to walk in that light in freedom.
Oh well, still doesn't make sense unless he really didn't know how to protect his rights, or the people who fed him the details he taught, didn't know how to protect his rights, or fed him enough such that he would always know less than they know so they could control him if he got out of control.
I'm reminded of Kill Bill 1 and Kill Bill 2. Bill made sure the girls got some mad skills in the martial arts but he also made sure he knew what skills they had, until one of the girls did not reveal an 'extra skill' she was taught, so Bill was caught off guard when she used that skill.
If you know someone can sword play pretty well, you kind of what to get them into a gun fight or some other combat, but not using the tool they are good at using.
Tim either didn't know enough, or he's still being used to show some purported power of the system, to draw the rest of the people who followed his lead to the same fate or to get them to cease their activity based on fear of what 'could' happen.
If you can't defend your actions, then you haven't learned what you needed to know to do the thing in the first place.
Love you.
It's difficult to know the truth here. Perhaps Mr. Turner is indeed a charlatan. Or, perhaps he is a great and noble American who has been destroyed by the dragon he sought to slay. The powers that be have gone out of their way to tell us what a charlatan and scumbag he is. Intuition tells me that if have to trust someone, Turner wins hands down. After all Mr. Turner has done nothing to us, the government, on the other hand, has screwed us all our lives.
When someone is sick, their condition can often be complicated by an opportunist infection.
The sickness is the defacto corporation pretending to be a dejure government.
The opportunist infection was Tim Turner. He muscled himself into RAP. Although he was clever, he was not intelligent.
There are only 2 ways to oppose the system.
One is to remove yourself from the system and never contract with private corporations. Every question must be answered with: "Thank you for your most kind invitation to enter into a contract, but I do not wish to enter into a contractual relationship". You must deeply self-educate yourself. If they want to use your "driving" a state-owned car as evidence of your entering into a contract, you have to reply without hesitation that you have never received a monthly pay check and that when millions of "drivers" must receive back pay with interest that will add up to a tidy sum. You must educate yourself to a point that you are as intelligent and clever - or more - than they are. You are only interesting to the corporation as a willing source of free labor; if they lose money they lose interest. They like it when you are one of the 200 persons per hour that are squeezed through corporate courts with their consent and no resistance.
The second way is to resist with-in the system. If you choose this way, you must eat, drink, sleep, and sh*t paragraphs, codes, and procedures. You must be able to walk the walk and talk the talk.
After 10 years, Rodney Dale: Class
can do this. Has he obtained any remedy? NO. Has he gone to jail? NO. Will he ever go to jail? Probably not. Does he legally "drive" without a drivers license? YES. Does he legally drive without car tags? YES. Has he really achieved anything? His main achievement to date has been black on white administrative court decisions (from the corporation) that car tags and driving licenses come from private entities and that the police are private contractors. They had to admit this (to someone intelligent enough to get them into a corner, such as Rod) since there are no courts, no judges, no police, no nothing in North Carolina State, but only a corporate "STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA".
Rod does not yet understand that while the court building is in North Carolina State, one of the several States, the court itself (curia in Vatican talk) is not present in North Carolina State, one of the several States; it is foreign. The court is only present in D.C., where STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA CORPORATION is incorporated. Whether the food chain continues through the City of London to the Vatican should be interesting research.
If you have chosen to remain outside the system, you should still study and know the corporate court decisions obtained by Rod, even if you think he has chosen the wrong path of remaining and resisting from with-in.
In summary, Tim Turner went to prison because he is quite stupid; he didn't know how to resist from with-in nor from with-out. He may have chosen to mix the two, which is a no-no. Having a big mouth does not mean you have a big brain.
A retired "judge" once said, anyone in prison is there voluntarily.
Mr. Turner is guilty not because of tax evasion. that's just the cover story the DOJ has put out and was placed in the juries face at the trial. the real reason Mr. Turner is guilty and is indictment is because when he was giving seminars promoting the bonds there was no actual teaching on how to use these bonds correctly. So the attendees at Mr. Turners seminar walked away with no real knowledge of how to use this bonds with the correct amount and not an amount so outragious as Mr. Turner was teaching. Come on! Three hundred million to pay a debt? over the years after the nice people who thought they would get something of value, which they did, while at the his seminar, these people started to get into trouble because they themselves walked away from the seminar without any real knowledge on how to use the bonds correctly. The bonds themselves is one thing but there were misused and tought by Mr. Turner.
I have read many articles across the country where the people have gotten into trouble useing these bonds on traffic tickets. Tickets only two three hundred dollars and the bonds used were misused by the so outragous amounts and then placing a admiralty lien claim on the officer, was really un called for.
So these people went back to Mr. Turner to see he had to help them out and no teal hrlp was available on what he could do to help the people out. Mr. Turner was nowhere to be found. the people under Mr Turner did not know what to do or just gave really pore advice or spend another 900.00 dollars to seek a remody or not. The facts speak for itself. so the people had know choice but to go to the government for help e.g. the Attorney General, the local police, etc. complaints started to roll in as as the consumer complaints piled up against Mr. Turner.
It appears when you look at this logically why Mr. Turner found guilty and is going to jail is because of there was no real damage control on what he has and others have started.
Asleast that is how i see it.
and then giving notice to all 50 governors of the United States was a really bad move on Mr. Turners part and others at the time, because by serving the document called the American plan on the 50 governors, it was if Mr. Turner among others who served the American plan documents was calling for war against the United States. the American plan was a noble idea. but it was served in the wrong Manor by which it was served to the United States.
I know there needs to be change in our current system. however Mr. Turner among others went about it in all the wrong Manor.
godspeed to you Mr. Turner.
I believe him to be a good man...when hurricane Issac was bearing down on us here in Louisiana this man took the time to call and make sure we were ok...I didnt hear one word from Bobby Jindal,our governor,and Obama didn't even occupy his chair in New Orleans.President Turner did a brave thing taking on the Alabama corrupt backwoods judge with bloody hands system.
Arrest the CEO's and the board of directors of the corps. Shut their operations down. Can WE say, "YOU'RE FIRED!!!"
Tim isn't only one, look within once more district of corruption!!
Perhaps, this is a bit deeper than one could realize. Perhaps, this whole story is more about THE VOICE and less about the use of bonds. In todays modern world of limited liability ... tis far more prudent to acknowledge the three spheres of operation of accounts in play. The Usufruct System caters to Adults - Adult/Child - Child relationships. Without a VOICE, the SYSTEM CAN NOT HEAR YOU ... why? .... YOUR NAME BELONGS TO THE USUFRUCT TRUST ... however .. should an adult claim that SAID NAME is the TITLE OF THE ACCOUNT and therefore the adult becomes REGISTERED ADMINISTRATOR and state within that said name is corpus, the matter at hand is about distribution of corpus, distribution of interest on corpus .. perhaps then it would come as no mere surprise that those without a voice only have one right, that is the right to release the bailee undertaking. How does one get a voice? why, your last will and testament of course.. your birth certificate opens the account, your will closes the account ... the account remains active and therein lives the clue to allow one to become the administrator of the account ... you are either the man or the woman ... you are not the name ... or in other words .. you are the thing named and not the name ... enjoy the puzzle ....... IN COMMERCE ONLY THING ITEMS ARE IN PLAY ... BAILEE UNDERTAKINGS - CHATTELS - DEVICES .... CHATTELS ARE THE OATHS OF THE MINISTERS ... DEVICES ARE THE BILLS/ACTS/STATUES .... EVERYTHING ELSE IS A BAILEE UNDERTAKING ..
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