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8-15-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
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Tony: Good
morning, TNT. It is Friday, August 15,
2014, and we truly
did not expect to be here today. Things have changed, and it’s all
good news from Iraq.
We are getting closer and closer, and will tell
you everything apart from the minute you go to the
bank. This is a
super-fantastic day because all obstacles we know about
have been
removed publicly.
We have a lot of information that we will try to
share with you, and where we are, and why you should be
very happy.
Lots of things happened in Iraq last night that would
never have been
allowed if M was in charge, like throwing shoes at his
picture. The
people there felt like they were finally free, at
last. Today is a
new day for them.
We know that they have said on their television and
newspapers, and what they have planned for the weekend.
DC: I hope
everyone is doing well. I congratulate
Iraq on their
amazing progress this week. In this one week, we had a former PM
refusing to leave, with guards and tanks in Baghdad, and
with some
skirmishes. Now,
the former PM stood next to the present PM pledging
his support. The
government is seated and everything is moving
forward.
ISIS had a really bad week due to British and US special
forces,
routing enemy positions.
Iraq had a huge week, and we are so happy
for them. There
were air strikes this morning, too.
East to West – Iraq is knocking it out the park, doing
amazing things.
M is out of the country, and we had four confirmations of
that. He
publicly resigned and that is going fine. Abadi is being very
inclusive, including a Sunni defense minister, and also
Shi’a
moderates from a spread of provinces. As we saw on television, people
are jumping up and down, so happy with what’s going
on. We have had
reports of the GOI being seated; some say they are and
will announce
on Saturday, and others say that two positions still need
to be seated
but will be by Saturday.
Tony: The
announcement was supposed to be this morning, but it got moved.
DC: it is supposed
to be coordinated with the RV, and they want to
clean up some messes when M left, and catch some
speculators, too.
Abadi is listening to all the right folks, very
inclusive. The
finance minister spoke on television yesterday and today,
saying that
cur4ency reforms are taking place, and they are the
strongest currency
in the region. The CBI has given notice to the banks for
a public rate
change on Sunday.
Some cards still have different rates, so they need
to regularize that instead of five different currency
rates. They
have told them to expect this on Sunday morning, and we
have two
confirmations of that. CBI and all their folks in the
central banks
are all ready now, with systems linked through the
CIX. That’s
working fine.
ISIS is getting routed badly now. They have a much more inclusive
government, so the US will be more supportive of the
Iraqi military.
There are celebrations planned this weekend for GOI and
CBI, as
well.Tony: CBI
released everything on Wednesday – it started on
Monday, actually – so that part is out of their
hands. They scheduled
all the announcement and celebrations hoping that M would
leave, and
now they are tearing down all his pictures and saying
they are finally
free. The finance
minister came on again and said that their currency
is the strongest
in the region. They were supposed to announce this
on Friday morning in the mosques, but moved that to
Saturday.
DC: Their PM is
official, and they are saying they will announce that
Saturday or Sunday.
Tony: We know for
a fact that the bankers have been given a memo to
be aware of the official time things should occur,
whenever that time
is. I’m not
saying. We know they have gone that far, and everyone
over there is preparing for something. Last night, there was a plane
on the tarmac with 25 people there, and they did what
they were
supposed to do, and that gives us all the confidence in
the world.
DC: One of us has
seen pictures of the plane running!
Tony: We’ve heard
it before, but it actually occurred this time.
DC: The important
thing is that Maliki peacefully stepped back and
said he supports his brother Abadi. That took some skeptics by
surprise. To the
folks who did that, thank you. It was an
outstanding job!
Tony: Is M ever to
be a concern of our again, so far as the RV or the new GOI?
DC: Because he
made it so public, he is out of power now.
He has
some buddies still there, but in terms of the GOI, or CBI
and the RV,
he is out of the game.
Tony: Governments around the world have changed their
opinion of Iraq
and what they are willing to do for Iraq at this time?
DC: Not just the US, but the European Union, the UK,
Russia… the
changes they have made are amazing, and everyone is
astonished and
happy.
Tony: The storm cloud has moved on, the sun is shining
and they are
waiting for dinner to be served. What’s happening over here?
DC: The UN is ecstatic and pledging more support. In the DC area,
many preparations are being made. Many things have already occurred,
and it’s taken every by surprise how smoothly that has
run.
Everything just worked right! Thanks again to everyone who helped
with the technical and procedural process, including
those at the
world banks and all the rest. They allowed for technical problems,
but they overcame then in minutes. When they called the bosses back
and said, “We’re done!” everyone was astounded. So now the folks
managing the public rollout to the world need to have
their people in
place. They are
changing a few procedures as we speak, when to bring
in different people and coordinating with Iraq. This is all
more
ready than they expected. Everyone is being supportive of
each other’s
deals. This is
Iraq’s deal, and they are talking to everyone else as
they flesh out their final plans. We may know 50% of the plans, but
all of those plans are having their final touches put on
as we speak,
including banks getting geared up, the Fed, UST,
international banks
and national banks.
Their plan is not to wait very long to get this
done. We will not
give an exact timeline, but they are doing this
very actively, and many very positive actions have
already been taken.
Those less helpful before are now being very supportive,
and
impressing on people that they were dragging their heels
because they
didn’t want M to get the money. So everyone is saying “Great, let’s
get this done!”
Everyone is pushing strongly towards finishing this
now.
Tony: I have a
question. All this time, all these starts
and stops,
all the time we thought this was going to go, how could
they now be
caught unaware about the final rollout? And why didn’t they consult
us?
<laughter>
DC: We are all
relaxed and happy today… What do you mean they didn’t
have this planned out?
They have had plans upon plans, but given that
they wanted to make sure about Forex, the markets, the
windows for the
international banks and all that, they are having to
adjust their
plans. Also, the
political landscape has changed so many times that
they have to look at their plans A-D, mix parts of A into
D with a
dash of O. some
were resisting by NOT planning, and now they are
trying to play catch-up.
Everyone is now working diligently to get
this out. Also,
they thought they would have a lot more trouble from
M and from the administration side, so now that everyone
is working so
well together, they want to change it again. It’s like
the last-minute
huddle before the big game…
Tony: I knew we
would have those question! We didn’t
cross any line,
give out too much information, but everything is moving
forward. Iraq
is giving out more information about timelines than we
are! But they
are still not exact.
Pam: I want you to
talk about the thread on the forum called “TNT
gives back”. That
started with your request that people share what
they are going to do to pay if forward. There are well
over 500 posts
already!
Tony: You might
want to look those over, download ideas, and
collaborate on those plans. “Teamwork makes the dream work!”
DC: Callers, please continue to talk about how you will
pay it forward.
907 caller: There are some small things I want to do
regularly, and
then some big things.
We didn’t have much money; I got
my first pair
of glasses from the Lions Club and I will always remember
what it was
like to see the leaves on the trees again. Also, the
Kiwanis give
scholarships for young people going to college. There is also a
website where you can buy a chicken, goat or cow for
people in Africa,
to help them. There is a dinner theatre group near here
that is all
unpaid, and I love their productions.
For the bigger things, there is a place called Quixote
Village in
Washington. It’s a
place with cabins and a meeting hall for the
homeless. They do
classes for all sorts of things like how to write
your resume, cooking classes and such. The last thing is that my
husband and I could only have the one child, and some years
ago we
adopted a family of six.
We didn’t realize how expensive it would be
to look after all those kids. So I want to start a post-adoption
place, so that we could buy reliable vehicle for a family
with that
many kids, or they could apply for us to pay their
bills. This sounds
kind of frivolous, but we would pay for them to go on
vacations.
That’s where you the bonding, and that’s what they need
more than
anything. My kids
needed each other even more than me. I
said I
would take them all or not at all, and two decided not to
be adopted…
Tony/DC: Wow! That’s incredible!
Tony: My daughter
went through the glasses thing when she was little,
and that is exactly what she said; “What are those things
on the
trees?” And of course we said, “They’re leaves!” [my computer crashed
and I missed a bit]
A couple of months ago this got too intense for me, and I
stepped
back. Then I
looked at the forum, and there is a place where people
do good for each other.
People reach out to others, and you can ask
questions, and people do their own research. I stepped a bit
backwards, and I saw your team, where people go out of
there way to be
of service to each other.
They don’t just talk it, they live it every
day. Then I took
another step back and saw your intel team who put in
all this work and
never can be repaid. And then there are
also all
these other people impatient to help each other! It blew my mind! We
were knee deep in a river of decency.
Tony: That evolved over time. We never intended to do it, but once I
got involved I couldn’t back out. I did say ‘fidiots’ a few times,
because I asked someone once what was lower than idiots,
and they
replied, “fools”, so they became ‘fidiots’.
Caller: I’d like
to ask Pam a question. Would you like an
opportunity to throw someone ELSE under the bus? <laughter>
Pam: I really
enjoyed what you said also. You’re
right, we have an
amazing team, with wonderful people on the site. We appreciate each
and every one of you!
And I do love the term “fidiots”.
Caller: You
inspire me to be a better person, and I’m deeply grateful.
512 caller: Just
have one quick question: when are you
expecting the
packages? When we will have the post-RV instructions?
Tony: You mean,
when will the RV be announced? Go ahead,
DC…
DC: We won’t know
until right before or right after it goes quietly
international.
Caller: Will the
General’s group get any kind of priority release of
the 800 numbers?
DC: We don’t know;
they are deciding that kind of thing right now.
If they are given a ‘first at bat’ it will be a very
quick one. I’m
not part of that group myself. Our understanding is that
the rest of
us will be in shortly thereafter. It’s more of an organizing function
than preferential treatment as such.
Caller: I thought
the General’s group has 300,00 in it!
DC: I understand
that there are 30,000, so I don’t know about that.
Caller:
[appreciation] It wouldn’t’ have been easy getting through
this without your updates three times per week.
Tony: I was staying away from the group thing, because I
would have
told the truth!
Seriously, we don’t know yet.
727 caller: I am a
first-time caller, and on the last call of this
type. We do have a
plan. We lost our youngest son four
years ago;
he made a few mistakes, got caught with marijuana and it
was a felony.
Or the last part of his life, he went for jobs at minimum
wage and no
one would hire a young man with a felony. We want to set
up some
houses for veterans, and have them help these young
people who are
otherwise stuck in the system. They cannot get a job, so they go
where they have to go to get money. So we’ll set up these houses, and
have the vets train them in trades like construction, so
that they
don’t get in trouble or get incarcerated. We need to change how this
works.
Tony: We can make
a difference in this world. I want to
clarify once
again that I will NOT be in politics; it’s not what I want to do with
my life. I don’t’
smoke marijuana or anything else.
Marijuana laws
are changing, and the laws are changing because now the
big
corporations are saying it’s their turn to make the big
money instead
of people doing it on the streets. They’re trying to shut
down the
cigarette trade, and they will pick up the marijuana
trade. There are
people opening up smoke shops and the states where that
is legal, they
are make millions in taxes. Now it is becoming legal and respectable,
but people like your son will carry that felony the rest
of their
lives. Now we can do something for those young people to make their
lives better, rather than paying the price for the rest
of their
lives. That can be
changed, and citizens of the US can raise their
voices to make that change.
Caller: Then if
they stay clean for five years, we’ll run a lottery
so that one of the employees can own the home. That can be the vet or
the trainee. Until
then, they each pay a dollar a month and also pay
it forward by training other young men like that. It won’t help our
son, but maybe it will help our neighbor’s son.
At one point in time there was a guru who said, “Who does
that make
sense to?” It was
regarding the Zim and dropping all the zeros.
Now
everyone seems to be onboard with dropping the
zeros. Has something
changed? I’ve
heard six zeros are being dropped.
Tony: That makes
sense because, just like there was a plan for Iraq
and the Middle East, there is a plan for Africa. It makes
sense
because of the growth potential of Africa, with all the
minerals they
have there. Africa is more of a project than the ME, so
there has to
be more of an incentive, but the benefits will be
tremendous.
DC: You nailed it
in terms of the incentives for turning decimated
countries into a real
powerhouse. Zimbabwe’s leader is
really a
dictator, and they are in the plans… If he is out of the
way, the
country has nowhere to go but up. If they can get a better government
that stops doing bad things, there is a tremendous opportunity. The
same thing is true is the Congo and Liberia. If you can take those
homicidal idiots out of there, they will grow tremendous
speed. It
will be like Iraq ten years ago, only faster because they
have the
guidance and the money to do it right.
Caller: Have you
heard anything about the billions?
DC: Only about the
trillions; I don’t know about the rest
of the currency.
248 caller: I live
in a rundown neighborhood, and I have this fantasy
to spruce up my house and move, and also to somehow allow
some other
people to do the same, so that I can raise up the whole
neighborhood.
I’m now sure how to do it yet. I could have walked away from my
mortgage, but I’m going to pay off the mortgage, gut the
house and
renovate it. Then
I will offer grants so that my neighbors can do the
same. Also I will
set up college funds for my grandchildren,
structured so that they will also have to pay it forward
somehow.
There are two charities I feel strongly about – the first
is for
children being sold into sexual slavery. I will give funds to that.
I am also concerned about suffering animals; I’d like to set up a
foundation for the smaller shelters that take in animals
but don’t
have the structure and food that they need to expand and
flourish.
All you have to do is look around any day, and you’ll see
the dogs and
cats in the streets living feral. If people had more funds, they
could take more care.
Tony: Those are
great ideas, taking care of children and animals.
When they have those adverts on television, I cannot bear
to even look
at those animals long enough to get to the donation
part. I can’t
watch that stuff!
DC: It’s rough on
me, too.
Tony: Those are
great things to be involved in.
Caller: With
funding any organization, it’s important to do your
homework, so that you know who is running it. Some of them barely get
any money to those doing the work. That’s why I want to work with the
smaller shelters.
Tony: There are
man organizations that need money, but if you are
getting involved with changing people’s lives, you want
to get
personally involved and relay knowing who you are working
with. Even
overseas, go with your money and make sure the right
people get it.
They will appreciate it that much more, I promise you.
818 caller:
I brought a couple of elderly
friends in, and they are
hard of hearing;
would it be okay to go with them to the 800
appointment so that I can help them understand what is
going on.
DC: We have been reassured that anyone with a disability
can take in
anyone they need. Everyone will be accommodating those
who need the
help.
Caller: I want to
set up something state by state, working with
veterans, helping their families pay bills and buy
food. Then I want
to set up a second foundation for vets who have been
wounded,
connecting them with doctors because they don’t always
get the help
through the VA. I
want to buy some hotels or motels where there
families can be housed during treatment, with food trucks
that come by
and give them dinner.
510 caller: I was
the one who you thought I was still on but I
dropped off on Wednesday.
So I wanted to say what I intend to do.
First, though, this is the perfect storm – the markets,
currencies and
gold are all down.
I see that the PM is getting rid of corrupt
minsters and they are reading the budget on Tuesday. Is that the
date?
DC: There are
crossed wires here. They are seating the
government on
Saturday or possible Sunday, and the budget is just going
over some
things on Tuesday.
Caller: My plan
started way before it was fashionable, when I first
got the dinar.
Like Tony, I do know how to make money.
I want to
give out a billion dollars to create program starting with 200-300
kids full scholarships per year, to any school that they
qualify for,
and then ask them to volunteer three months per year
each. I am
bringing on board a businessman I know who is well able
to run this.
Take my number if you’d like me to fold in some of your
foster kids as
well.
Tony: Do you know
Donald Forell? He used to play for the
Warriors
and he lives near you.
He has a program like that, and that might
appeal to you. You guys can probably help each other.
Caller: I will
have that much after I’ve turned it over, and I might
have some ideas for you, too.
Tony: Will this
three months volunteering be after school or during school?
Caller: They will
have to give in an essay on how they will volunteer
every year. That
has to be set up beforehand, and they will have to
keep up their grades as well. It’s a key point that they
must
volunteer.
Tony: It sounds
like you’ve got it worked out. I’m sure
we will talk again.
Skype caller: So
you think it’s going to happen this weekend, huh?
DC: I very much
hope it will. Again, we’ve been proven wrong so many
time, you get a little gun shy. Everything looks phenomenal.
Caller: We are planning to reach out to the ‘forgotten
face of
freedom’, meaning the families of the fallen. Many soldiers have lost
their lives, some in Iraq. Many had inheritances or money
that came to
them upon their soldiers’ deaths, but those children
still need help.
We want to see what we can do to honor their fallen
parents. Wounded
Warriors is a good program, but the children are often
forgotten. So
that’s a foundation that we will start and work on.
Tony: I’m glad
people are looking at the children. They are
resilient, but they hold on to these traumas.
Caller: It’s a
one-income family, now, so we want to help enrich
those lives. Also,
is there anything in the packages for the
non-profits, so we know where we stand?
Tony: We haven’t
got the packages yet. What would be
helpful is if
you start a thread on the forum with all the questions
you want us to
ask the bank. Then
we could be ready beforehand, and you could be
doing that right now.
Caller: We are
tax-exempt, but want to know about the process and the calls.
DC: We haven’t
heard about the packages as yet, but so far as I know
foundations will be treated like individuals, making
their
appointments on the 800 lines.
Caller: Let’s hope
this is the weekend the apple shakes free from the tree.
601 caller: You
said you couldn’t talk about the window;
can you
talk about rates?
DC: That window has been defined by public sources.
Tony: We cannot talk about the rates and don’t know what
the taxes
will be, because he haven’t got the packages. WE have some ideas, but
it’s changed in the last few days.
Caller: Nobody has
talked about talking about the elderly yet.
Many
have to choose between medicine and food. I want to start a
foundation on helping those guys.
Tony/DC: Thant’s
great! Whoever you give money to, whether
it’s
children, elderly, vets or the unemployed, you must think
about how it
affects their situation.
If you give money to someone in a care home,
that goes to the care home. Find out how giving someone a house
affects the rest of their lives.
Caller: My plan
was more along the lines of paying for the drugs at
the drugstore, for instance, rather than handing out the
money
directly.
DC: That’s a great
way to get around that.
Caller: I’m
disabled, and I know what it’s like paying for meds and
insurance, and then going to the grocery store…
Tony: Be careful
this this next guy – he’s an attorney and might set
traps for you!
Next caller: Has
the PM been officially seated or sworn?
DC: Yes, they did
the swearing in yesterday, and the
seating last
night or this morning, and the rest of the government
will be seated
this weekend.
Caller: You’ve talked about timelines pushing this out –
is that
around the world or here?
DC: Right now they
are trying to figure out to handle this process –
whether to use the shotgun approach, or something more
streamlined.
There are logistic issues to work through. With the resources they
have, how do they make it go as smoothly as possible for
us in the US
– both individuals and the banks. They divide dinarland
into three
categories. One is
the people in groups, like the Admiral’s group.
Then there are the dinarians who are not in groups but
who actively
listen to us and other gurus. That’s up to a quarter million people.
The remainder is the 4.5 million general public. The dinarians will
jump on the phone lines, and they want to get us through
the doors in
an orderly way.
They know that Tony and I want to help, and they see
that we can help get that quarter million through the
doors before the
rush of the general public as they ramp this up. They have to make
sure everyone is in place at the banks, and then get us
through as
easily as possible.
Some want to use the shotgun and let the chips
fall where they may.
Others say that we already have the names and
numbers of people
in groups, so we can divide this thing up.
It is
not a delay tactic, a stall tactic, or a preferential
treatment
tactic; they just
want to handle people in the fairest way possible.
Caller: So are
there financial institutions where people can also exchange?
DC: Yes, that is
part of the plan.
Caller: I want to
help the kids of the wounded warriors as well, to
give them a college education. I’m in the same boat as you, DC; I
was mostly raised by
my grandmother and we didn’t have a pot to piss
in or a window to throw it out of. I worked for years in
petrochemical industry with my wife, and with the crash
nine years ago
I was out of a job, had nowhere to live, and into a divorce. Well,
you know better than to make a decision in a time in
emotion. My
father also taught me to treat others the way you want to
be treated.
I don’t want anyone to go through what I had to go
through to get my
education. I
worked the night shift at a funeral home at minimum
wage, and it got me through. I learned a lot, but don’t want anyone
else to go through it.
There were positive things about it – if your
car breaks down in a small town, there is nowhere better
to go.
Education is the key, though, and I want those kids to
have that.
DC: It’s vital to
have a plan before you spend any money.
Set aside
the money for taxes and for tithing. How much can you then give
folks, and how much will you have to live off. It’s
wonderful to have
all these incredible plans, but you also need to have a
plan on how to
keep that going rather than it being a one-time
event. It’s a
lifestyle change.
Tony: What you are
saying is that it’s like being in an airplane and
the mask pops down.
Make sure you take care of yourself first, and
then take care of others.
Make sure you money is making money FIRST,
and then give from the profits of your money. Many people have won
the lottery, and they bought everything they wanted like
houses and
cars. They took the balance of their money and put it to
work until
they ran it up to the exact amount they won in the
lottery, and they
use only the income from that money. That keeps their
foundation
going. Only the
interest can be used, not the capital.
731 caller: Three
weeks ago I was listening to your call, and I wrote
down PM = RV. Now
we have to get the government established, and
that’s happening. Now you’re saying we need a stable
government – do
we have that in the US with all the polarization we have
now. Do you
think everything is where we need to be?
Tony: When I said
it’s a super-fantastic day, and all the information
DC has given out, and the public information in Iraqi
media, it all
says that they are pushing the go button. They are working
on the
exact moment to let this go. Everyone who had resistance is no longer
resisting. They
want to release it with the least turmoil and that is
what they are talking about now, not how to stall it out
again. The
only thing we are not saying si the exact moment it will
be announced.
DC: We don’t
believe they are waiting on anything else.
Some
processes are even ahead of schedule, so really this is a
last-minute
huddle before the game. They are saying, “Okay, we’ll run
this play
and that play; go
out and play the game!”
Caller: Of course
we will take of the church first, but after that,
my wife wants me to spend money on therapy. After Monday’s call I
woke her up at 1am shouting, “Who does that make sense
to?” and then
at 2am “Rich people don’t shoot each other!”
DC: My wife said
to me yesterday, “Next time you wake me up at 2am,
I’m going to hit you” because that’s when I talk to my
Iraqi guys.
858 caller: Aren’t
there problems with ISIS? Is there a
chance of
Iraq being split into three parts?
DC: There is
always a chance, but ISIS is being contained by special
forces from around the world. They are not someone to take lightly,
but Iraq is now showing themselves to the world as being
on top of
their game – they are helping themselves and so the world
is willing
to help them more.
Tony: I was
watching CNN the other day, with all these retired
officers, and one said Kurdistan is going its own
way. A few years
ago there was even a map showing Iraq and Kurdistan as
two different
countries. With
all the changes lately, I do think they will stay as
one country and they will become a resort location to
rival Dubai.
Caller: I would
like to work with children who are at risk.
My uncle
built a school for kids who didn’t make it thought the
foster system,
and they have a 97% graduation rate. I have a model in that
residential school, and I want to help them go to
college, too.
Tony: That’s
great. If you have a model that’s
working, share the
model, the name of the school and they can contact them
for help. No
need to reinvent the wheel.
Caller: The school is in Escondido, California.
843 caller: I’m
going to open a foundation to provide therapy for
post-dinar stress syndrome.
Tony: They already exist – they’re called shopping malls!
Caller: If you
expect this to happen any moment, why don’t’ you have
the packages?
Also, I keep checking the dealers, they are still
selling. What’s
going to happen with the dealers and the packages?
Tony: You apart
from our tweets and announcements, where else can you
check it out? When we make the announcement, the dealers
will have
changed their rates.
Dealers have changed their procedures, but they
are not going to change their rates until after the fact.
What we are
doing is getting you prepared for it. Afterwards, you’ll see it
immediately, the banks will be able to tell you, and then
you will
know it has actually occurred. All we can tell you is what we
anticipate.
DC: I would argue that
often things change at the dealers, and the
dealers we talk to are just as exhausted as we are. They have been
notified many times already, “it’s in the window, trade
at your own
risk”, and now they are dealing until they get their
final
notification from the UST. Meanwhile, they are just as frustrated as
we are.
Tony: They’ve been
having conference calls and been given their
instructions, same as we do. The whole system gets ramped
up; they
just don’t get as hyped as we do.
240 caller: I have
a question about Multi-Currency Accounts (MCA).
Can private citizens have those? Most banks I talk to say they are
for international business.
DC: If you have
enough money, you will get an MCA. If
you have money
and you have a justifiable reason for that account, they
will set on
up for you. If you
are dealing with several different currencies all
the time, with vendors in China or Australia, they pay
into that
account in their own currency and deal with conversions
that way. It
is not usually used for currency speculation; they are providing a
service for you.
Tony: There is a
bank that is planning to offer MCAs for private citizens.
Caller: Will there
be someone from that banks on your calls after the
RV, when you are instructing us in the packages?
Tony: That is what we have been told, and they are the
ones
structuring the calls. If it’s confused and messed up, it
wasn’t my
idea! We’ll just
see how it goes.
Caller: I mean
after the RV, where you are trying to be
part of the
solution so this process flows with a measure of
stability. Why not
have someone with skin in the game be on the calls, like
with
OpenMike.
DC: That is the plan, but it’s not done until it’s
done. They may
decide “Na, let people fend for themselves; we are doing to shut
those gurus down.” But others know that we are wiling to
be the
conduit and help with preparations to make it smoother.
Tony: And we will
help, because by that time we’ll be done, and our
only aim is to help you guys get through the
process. Even in the
meetings prior to those calls, we are in there
representing you and
your questions.
That is why we want you to post those questions on
the forum, so that they can understand the issues on the
ground.
DC: They are
making last-minute changes, so we’ll all have to be
flexible and make this as smooth as possible.
Caller: I
appreciate that because there are grey areas.
We
appreciate all you do.
We have seen the MCA bounced around as a way
to avoid taxes, but surely you will have taxes one way or
another.
Isn’t that a way to put yourself in the crosshairs?
Tony: It’s more
about the first mouse and second mouse, and long-term
strategies around further changes in the currency
situation. That’s
why I would have an MCA.
DC: My point is
that Uncle Sam will get his cut in the end.
For tax
issues, MCAs are kind of rough. I think people are giving advice from
a peripheral knowledge.
They are listening to these calls and
watching the boards, and plugging up the holes while they
track what
we use these exchanges for.
Tony: That’s the
main reason they wanted to wait until the 1st of
July, so that they can track those currencies.
Caller: I want to
help the kids and also the police, especially the
K-9 police who sometimes lose officers.
DC: I want to
thank everyone for their wonderful PIF plans. That
makes us feel like we make a difference here. The next deal is I want
everyone to plan on how to make your money make
money. Don’t give
away all your money before figuring out how to make this
money last a
lifetime. Everything is super cued-up and we are ready
for this to
have this done right now.
I used only public sources, and not insider
sources to talk about timelines.
Pam: Boy, that was
fun watching DC scramble like that! This
Pay It
Forward thing we are spending time on is because we think
it will make
a difference to those listening. They need to know that we are not a
bunch of money-hungry dinarians. No one will get your names or
details – it’s just between us.
Ray: Enjoy your
fabulous Friday and the good that is to come.
Tony:
Congratulations to the people of Iraq, you deserve this. You
deserve to have heat and electricity, food on your table
and to take
your kids to school. Your family has a great future. Congratulations
to you and to your government! Democracy is now in your hands.
There was a negative image of dinarians being passed
around, so we
wanted people to understand who we are and our purpose in
being here.
This RV was not set up for our benefit, but we do
benefit, and we will
pay that forward to benefit others.
If you look at the public sources, you can see that
everything has
been accomplished that was required for this to be
released. Iraq did
a total 180 turn in the last 24 hours! People have changed their
attitudes, they are celebrating, and this will change
their society,
too. I don’t seen
another obstacle. They are talking about
HOW to do
this, right now – how to get this party started, and then
when to get
it started. That’s
a different place than we have been in for the
last four years. I
don’t see any way to turn this around when
everyone has done what they had to do.
Enjoy your day and your weekend, and I fully expect to do
a tweet
today, tomorrow, this weekend, and for us to do another
call,
hopefully before Monday. Have a great day! Comment
8-15-14 TNT DINAR CC: Good morning, today is
SUPERFANTASTIC. Great
changes and movement. Call at 10pdt/1edt. Just thought
you guys might
want to see this:
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8-15-14 Stryker: Phoenix made some crazy statement today
or did he?
I will cover this and more on A Special LIVE Webcast at
12:00 noon CST Today.
LIVE LINK
ON DEMAND LINK
Stryker Blog – Comment
8-15-14 Lojak: I hate to break the news...but things will
be going
VERY fast, including the new govt and monetary policy
change. : )
Comment
8-15-14 Stage3Alpha: INTEL SNACK 10:05 AM EST.
PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE PRICES OF GOLD AND SILVER
TODAY, AND THE
FORMATION OF THE NEW IRAQ GOVERNMENT & THE
ELIMINATION OF MANY
MINISTRIES IN IRAQ AS THE BUDGET IS STREAMLINED.
1. THE EAST TO WEST MOVEMENT IS OFFICIALLY IN MOTION
GLOBALLY.
2. THE DIGITAL TRN'S (USN'S) ARE NO LONGER A MYTH.
3. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO BANKS LOCATED IN FREE TRADE
ZONES.
4. USA BANKS ARE NOW TALKING IF YOU ASK THE RIGHT
QUESTIONS (HINT HINT)
Comment
8-15-14 Iraqi News: Washington hails “historic and
peaceful transition
of power in Iraq”
On Friday, the United States of America described the
transition of
the outgoing Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, to his
successor, Haider
al-Abadi, as “a historic and peaceful transition of power
in Iraq.”
The Turkish Anatolia news agency quoted on the U.S.
Secretary of State
John Kerry as saying, “We applaud the important and
honorable decision
of the outgoing Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to support
the
designated Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi in his efforts
to form a
new government, as well as to develop a national program
in line with
the schedule of the Iraqi constitution.”
Kerry considered that “this decision provides for the
historic and
peaceful transition of power in Iraq.”
Maliki declared on Thursday (14 August 2014) his support
for
designated Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, and the
withdrawal of the
lawsuit he had brought against the President Fuad Masum
through the
Iraqi Supreme Federal Court. Article Link - Comment
8-15-14 EXOGEN: BREAKING NEWS: LBMA Silver Price Launches
New Era in
Pricing Precious Metals.
LONDON, Aug. 15, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- CME Group, the
world's leading
and most diverse derivatives marketplace, and Thomson
Reuters, the
world's leading source of intelligent information for
businesses and
professionals, have launched the new LBMA Silver Price
mechanism in
partnership with the London Bullion Market Association
(LBMA). CME
Group.
Thomson Reuters and LBMA have joined forces to provide
the
over-the-counter spot silver market with a new
transaction-based
price-setting mechanism for the LBMA Silver Price that is
IOSCO-compliant and fully electronic.
CME Group will provide the electronic auction platform on
which the
price will be calculated.
Thomson Reuters will be responsible for administration
and governance
and the LBMA will accredit price participants. The new
LBMA Silver
Price benchmark will be published and distributed by
Thomson Reuters
and will be available on the LBMA's website. Comment
8-15-14 Iraqi News: The Religious Authority described the
regional and
international support and hailing for the designation of
the new PM as
a new and rare chance for Iraq. Article Link - Comment
8-15-14 Stage3Alpha: BREAKING NEWS: Ban Ki-moon welcomes
the decision
by al-Maliki to step down from power.
Welcomed the Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban
Ki-moon, the
decision of the Prime Minister outgoing Nuri al-Maliki to
step down
from power and was succeeded by his pledge to support
Haider al-Abadi.
This came in a statement by the Secretary-General of the
International
Organization issued by the Information Office last night
and said he
looked forward to the rapid formation of a government of
broad and
comprehensive. Comment
8-15-14 TD: YEP, M is gone BECAUSE he got most everything
he wanted:
immunity, residences, pensions, lifetime bodyguards, etc.
etc. In any
case people are relieved and finally able to look at a
new and
certainly more of a promising future.
Word from there indicates that both Masum and Abadi are
honorable men,
persons of character and inclusive in both mind and
heart. Iraqis are
FINALLY blessed with the proper leadership. Both Masum
and Abadi want
and will improve the daily situation of the average Iraqi
and
eventually that also means being able to live on better
wages and more
purchasing power. This info is coming from my contact who
has inner
contacts with these folks.
Make no mistake much work lies ahead to now form a
government,
establish and modify programs. And of course address the
security
situation which will require months of rebuilding the
military to
regain the over 1/3 of the country lost to the
disgraceful ISIL group.
I can tell you firsthand that a new era of hope is
swarming through
the nation and it's heart warming to see this occur.
Comment
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8-14-14 Already Blessed: I THINK IT IS A TAKE YOUR PHONE
TO BED NIGHT. Comment
8-14-14 Tlar: This is for those that truly don't
understand what's
going on and why we are ready to see this investment
finally come to a
close.
A SHORT HISTORY
If you have been following what's going on then you
understand the
complexities involved in peacefully removing an
entrenched dictator.
Our government put together a plan starting about 6
months ago to
remove peacefully the Maliki installed government.
This was no easy task considering this government
involved
appointments by Maliki in as many positions of power that
he could.
Most of his family and people that he considered loyal to
him, no
matter their abilities are now what constitutes the
Maliki government.
He personally controlled the military, the secret police,
the
policeman on the street, and the entire security
apparatus. He also
controlled and paid for by his Executive share of the
budget, 6000
private bodyguards (goons) all carrying government cards
showing their
legitimacy.
The Iraqi experience had gone astray over the last 8
years with the
aspirations of one individual seeking to become the next
Saddam. With
him it he carried the same hatred of the other sects that
had plagued
the previous regime.
This regime had a sense now that they were in charge,
they would
punish those who had previously been in charge. It found
itself
ultimately doing many of the same things that Saddam had
done.
They would right the wrongs committed on the Shia by the
previous
regime. Trust was not yet there between the sects.
Hatreds were still
being harbored by the different sects even though it had
not
manifested itself yet.
In the eight years that followed it would raise its ugly
head and
divisions amongst the sects would manifest itself into
duplicating the
wrongs of the past. Secret prisons, torture and
punishment for the
previous wrongs were ingrained and built into this Maliki
government.
These harbored hatreds were ingrained extremely deep as
the crimes
that Saddam had perpetuated on the Shia were still fresh
in the minds
of Maliki. Crimes like genocide still festered in his
mind and the
Shia were still nursing the wounds of the past.
The wounds cast on the Shia under the Saddam regime were
still fresh
as Maliki took office in 2006.
Maliki remembered his own exile experiences and the death
camps and
the mass graves. Maliki could never get over it and let
go. He had a
secret deep seated hatred of the Sunni's.
He set out at the first of his administration to punish
the Kurds and
the Sunni's never really bringing them in the fold. Even
today the
Maliki government has turned out to be willing to
extinguish itself
based on these beliefs unwilling to work with the Sunni's.
This government had to go or the Iraqi experience was
doomed to failure.
Maliki is a complex individual. He decided in 2009 after
having won a
great victory (battle) against the Sadrists (a Shia
group) in Sadr
city that he would rise to greatness.
In other words he started to believe his own press. At
that time he
had the backing of both Iran and the US and he knew
nothing could stop
him now. He started making his move to take over Iraq in
2009.
The election of 2010 (his second term) was actually won
by one vote
and the winner was the Sunni's who ran Allawi (a Shia)
against Maliki
as their candidate. The vote was 89 to 90 in favor of
Allawi.
Maliki immediately set up an alliance building a
consortium of Shia
groups to counter Allawi's group, finally putting enough
Shia blocks
together, but he still fell short of getting and out
right win.
Needed was a majority of 165 our of 328. One half plus
one. Neither
Maliki or Allawi could gather the 165 MP's necessary to
put together a
government for a win. Next he approached his supreme
court and had
them rule that the NA, his newly formed Alliance ruled as
the largest
block.
At the urging and pressure by the US, a deal was finally
struck at
Erbil, Kurdistan, November of 2010.
The Sunni's and the Kurds both agreed to back Maliki for
PM for 19
concession Maliki made to them at that meeting. So 9
months after the
elections, Maliki was installed as the PM again and the
elections were
finally ratified and over.
There was 19 points in this agreement and every point
agreed to was
broken almost from the moment Maliki was voted in as
Prime Minister.
He honored nothing he agreed to, but he was the new PM in
charge.
Maliki immediately set about to become dictator of Iraq.
Although he had agreed at Erbil to place all the Ministry
positions
within a set period of time agreeing to let the Interior
and Security
Ministry positions go one each to the Kurds and Sunni's,
he
immediately reneged. He kept the control of these key
Ministries never
assigning these to anybody.
Quite simply Maliki needed to control the guys who
carried the guns in
order to achieve his aspirations to become a dictator.
Next he also
needed to control the press, an absolutely necessary in
order to
complete his transition to the supreme leader (dictator).
He set about closing the free press. It was only through
threats by
the United States that he finally backed off.
For the last four years Maliki has attempted to solidify
his control
and continued to place relatives, friends and people he
felt he could
trust in positions of power. Most were not qualified but
he put them
there because he could trust them and he could direct
them.
Ministries such as the Electricity Ministry never did supply
electricity to the people but 6 billion came up missing
and phony
contracts with phony companies were discovered as part of
a systematic
pilfering of Iraq's wealth. This went on for 8 years and
cost Iraq
billions and billion of its countries treasury.
Maliki himself has stocked away 25 billion in Qatar,
England, Syria
and the UK making him one of the richest men in the
world. His
relatives, business associates and trusted friends also
were all on
the take.
Shabibi told the news in early 2013 he was in possession
of the
account numbers and amounts that had been given to him
buy the
Jordanian government proving up the billions they had
sitting in their
banks stolen by the leadership of Iraq.
All of these crooks either were protected by Maliki or
part of the
government and had their own immunity. It got so bad that
Qatar
published the fact that they would no longer open
accounts or accept
deposits from Iraqi politicians or members of the Iraqi
government.
The theft coming out of Iraq earned them the number 1
position on
corrupt governments for a few years in a row. This went
on throughout
the Maliki years as Maliki and his band of thieves
pilfered the wealth
of Iraq and stopping all progress of the Iraqi economy.
He attempted to get his hands on the CBI reserves on
numerous
occasions actually finally removing Shabibi, a renowned
figure within
both the IMF and the World banking System.
Shabibi had stoned walled him on releasing any reserves
to him. Maliki
had previously made a 5 billion dollar personal loan from
the CBI and
had never made any attempt to make any payment nor did
attempt to pay
it back.
Shabibi knew he could not trust Maliki and would not take
orders from
him, so Maliki thought he had to go. Maliki harped for
over two years,
accusing him of everything from theft and gross
incompetence to
laundering money.
Maliki got his best chance to remove him while Shabibi
was at a
banking conference in Japan at the end of 2012 by placing
charges on
him and threatening to arrest Shabibi the minute he
stepped of an
airplane at the Bagdad airport.
Needless to say Shabibi never returned to Iraq. Maliki
appointed Turki
to the post of Governor of the CBI in the last quarter of
2012 because
he felt Turki was a Maliki supporter and would answer to
him.
Turki did not know much about running the CBI but Maliki
thought he
could count on Turki to be obedient and do his bidding.
The US
Treasury, IMF and WB immediately descended on the CBI and
took Turki
under their wing.
Within a month they had turned Turki making him
understand the
importance of his task at the same time making him
understand who he
was working for. When Maliki came with his first request
to raid the
reserves, Turki told him he would never get his hands on
the reserves
as long as he was there.
Maliki turned on his guy immediately saying he was going
to replace
him. Next he started accusing him of incompetence and
then theft of
ten tons of gold. Turki survived the personal attacks and
became
stronger for it. Turki still runs the CBI today and is on
board with
the plan.
CURRENTLY HAPPENING
That leads us to the election that just took place. A
storm was
brewing as Maliki continued to marginalize the Sunni's
and screw over
the Kurds not doing or implementing any of the 19 points
he had agreed
to at Erbil.. He was instrumental in keeping all laws
that were
important to the Sunni's and Kurds, such as the HCL, the
Federation
Council and Article 140 from being passed.
Also any laws that would advance the economy were slowed
or put on
hold. Mlaliki was vehemently against enacting the tariffs
laws that
were crucial to the plan so he always said "not this
year."
Enter the Sunni rebellion. The Sunni's had had it with
the Maliki
government and so did the Kurds. Sunni's were
disappearing in the
middle of the night and there is still a reported 100,000
Sunni's
considered the political opposition, incarcerated in
Jails in Iraq.
Hakim developed the plan to remove Maliki.
If the Kurds and Sunni's were on board and could muster
their people,
there was enough Shia sick of Maliki ready to take Maliki
out. Hakim
met one by one with everyone that ended up in the
coalition and
slowly, 6 months before the election, the coalition was
born under the
rallying cry of "no more Maliki." So a plan was
built to remove
Maliki.
Sunni's started a rebellion that still rages on today.
They safe
harbored Daash and the ISIS both terror groups operating
in Syria,
using them as pawns to exacerbate the situation. Had
Sunni's alone
done this Maliki could have been justified in calling it
a civil war,
potentially rallying Shiites to the cause.
But being terrorists, the country came together. The
Sunni's have said
since the beginning of the up rising that the minute
Maliki is out of
the picture they will throw the terrorist organizations
out by
themselves.
Today both the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army accompanied
by US air
support and British ground troops have turned the tide on
these guys.
Everyday the good guys are slaughtering the bad guys and
the head of
the ISIS, the new self declared Caliph, has scrambled
back to Syria
knowing if they stay in Iraq, they will be killed. The
Dam has been
liberated and the towns leading to Erbil have been
retaken by the
Peshmerga.
The Peshmerga stated they will have Mosul liberated in 24
hours. It
will take about a week but it is expected that all
elements of both
Daash and the ISIS will go back to Syria to save their
lives.
None of our ground troop, the Pesh, the Iraqi army or the
Sunni's are
taking prisoners. They are slaughtering the terrorists
where they find
them. This tide will really kick into high gear on the
announcement of
Maliki's death, departure or being arrested.
WHAT'S STILL TO COME
A new day and a new society is now emerging that beacons
change. The
experiment that was designed in 2003 is just now coming
to fruition.
Iraq will emerge as a non-sectarian democrat Middle
Eastern Country.
In the next 24-48 hours we should see the departure of
Maliki.
Maliki had filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court as a
last stand. The
lawsuit is intended to stall or stop the formation of the
government.
The court if they do rule, will favor the citizens of
Iraq.
It will fall in favor of the new government. This
afternoon Maliki got
with his party and announced he will no longer seek the
PM position.
Rumor has it that he has accepted a deal. He has been
granted some
part of an immunity deal and has agreed to leave Iraq.
Whether he breaks this promise or not makes no
difference. He will be
removed if he breaks the deal.
Iran has offered him, his wife and both of his daughter’s
asylum. They
did not offer his son asylum. Iran has written visas for
everyone but
his son. Most likely I expect between now and Friday
night he will be
gone. His closet advisor left Iraq for parts unknown
today. His family
is in England.
Today there was a protest in the streets of Bagdad.
People were
chanting "go away Maliki." They were throwing
their shoes at any
picture of him they could find and that is the biggest
insult you can
show in this culture.
THE CURRENCY
This is the part most of you think about and I understand
that and
that is the reason I have saved the best for last. Most
of you I know
could give a hoot about the lay of the land or the
politics.
It has been because of this that it has taken so long to
see this
investment come to a close. Show me the money! That has
become my
chant too. I am sick of Iraq and I have worn my finger to
a frazzle.
Here's a tidbit.
The clock does not start with the formation of the new
government as I
had thought all along.
The clock will start on the first verifiable news that
Maliki is gone.
Within 48 hours, TURKI WILL PULL THE TRIGGER.
When D-day comes I will put out an email making just a
few suggestions
concerning your selling dinars. I hope to be done with
this this
coming weekend or next week.
Stop and think before you sell your dinars.
This is a currency with potential at any number they come
out at. They
are only producing 50% of the oil they intend to be
producing by 2020,
6 short years from now.
They will have solved their government problems and if
they can get
their act together economically, they will be the richest
country in
the world. Their currency should continue to increase in
value over at
least the next 5-6 years. Comment
8-14-14 Iraqi News: Obama: We will continue air strikes
in Iraq to
protect Americans and American installations.
On Thursday, US President Barack Obama indicated that the
air strikes
will continue in Iraq to protect Americans and American
establishments, while noting that the situation in Iraq
is still
deteriorated because of the organization of the Islamic
State of Iraq
and the Levant, ISIL.
Obama said, in a televised statement followed by
IraqiNews.com, that
“American air strikes will continue in Iraq to protect
Americans and
American establishments,” pointing out that “Washington
won the
support of its partners.”
Obama considered that “the situation in Iraq is still so
bad due to
the organization of ISIL,” stressing at the same time
“the need to
form an inclusive government that is going in the right
direction.”
On Thursday, the American Embassy in Iraq announced the
delivery of 15
million pieces of ammunition to Iraq while confirming
that 12 Iraqi
pilots were in America completing their training on F-16
fighter jets,
praising the military cooperation between Erbil and
Baghdad to fight
the organization of the Islamic State in Iraq and the
Levant. Article
Link – Comment
8-14-14 Arostal: Found this on another part of board...
TRAP - do not negotiate for a rate above the CONTRACT
rate... Tony
will post them when 800's are posted
TRAP - do not mix currencies in accounts
TRAP - only use the words: IQN... for Dinar VNN...
for DONG
TRAP - do NOT use the words "cash in"... say "exchange currency" for US
Dollars
Comment
8-14-14 wmawhite: "Maliki: I withdraw my candidacy
for PM in favour of
AbadDate: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:35:01 -0400
Subject: NEWS
To:
NEWS, RUMORS & ARTICLES
8-15-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
Tony: Good
morning, TNT. It is Friday, August 15,
2014, and we truly
did not expect to be here today. Things have changed, and it’s all
good news from Iraq.
We are getting closer and closer, and will tell
you everything apart from the minute you go to the
bank. This is a
super-fantastic day because all obstacles we know about
have been
removed publicly.
We have a lot of information that we will try to
share with you, and where we are, and why you should be
very happy.
Lots of things happened in Iraq last night that would
never have been
allowed if M was in charge, like throwing shoes at his
picture. The
people there felt like they were finally free, at
last. Today is a
new day for them.
We know that they have said on their television and
newspapers, and what they have planned for the weekend.
DC: I hope
everyone is doing well. I congratulate
Iraq on their
amazing progress this week. In this one week, we had a former PM
refusing to leave, with guards and tanks in Baghdad, and
with some
skirmishes. Now,
the former PM stood next to the present PM pledging
his support. The
government is seated and everything is moving
forward.
ISIS had a really bad week due to British and US special
forces,
routing enemy positions.
Iraq had a huge week, and we are so happy
for them. There
were air strikes this morning, too.
East to West – Iraq is knocking it out the park, doing
amazing things.
M is out of the country, and we had four confirmations of
that. He
publicly resigned and that is going fine. Abadi is being very
inclusive, including a Sunni defense minister, and also
Shi’a
moderates from a spread of provinces. As we saw on television, people
are jumping up and down, so happy with what’s going
on. We have had
reports of the GOI being seated; some say they are and
will announce
on Saturday, and others say that two positions still need
to be seated
but will be by Saturday.
Tony: The
announcement was supposed to be this morning, but it got moved.
DC: it is supposed
to be coordinated with the RV, and they want to
clean up some messes when M left, and catch some
speculators, too.
Abadi is listening to all the right folks, very
inclusive. The
finance minister spoke on television yesterday and today,
saying that
cur4ency reforms are taking place, and they are the
strongest currency
in the region. The CBI has given notice to the banks for
a public rate
change on Sunday.
Some cards still have different rates, so they need
to regularize that instead of five different currency
rates. They
have told them to expect this on Sunday morning, and we
have two
confirmations of that. CBI and all their folks in the
central banks
are all ready now, with systems linked through the
CIX. That’s
working fine.
ISIS is getting routed badly now. They have a much more inclusive
government, so the US will be more supportive of the
Iraqi military.
There are celebrations planned this weekend for GOI and
CBI, as
well.Tony: CBI
released everything on Wednesday – it started on
Monday, actually – so that part is out of their
hands. They scheduled
all the announcement and celebrations hoping that M would
leave, and
now they are tearing down all his pictures and saying
they are finally
free. The finance
minister came on again and said that their currency
is the strongest
in the region. They were supposed to announce this
on Friday morning in the mosques, but moved that to
Saturday.
DC: Their PM is
official, and they are saying they will announce that
Saturday or Sunday.
Tony: We know for
a fact that the bankers have been given a memo to
be aware of the official time things should occur,
whenever that time
is. I’m not
saying. We know they have gone that far, and everyone
over there is preparing for something. Last night, there was a plane
on the tarmac with 25 people there, and they did what
they were
supposed to do, and that gives us all the confidence in
the world.
DC: One of us has
seen pictures of the plane running!
Tony: We’ve heard
it before, but it actually occurred this time.
DC: The important
thing is that Maliki peacefully stepped back and
said he supports his brother Abadi. That took some skeptics by
surprise. To the
folks who did that, thank you. It was an
outstanding job!
Tony: Is M ever to
be a concern of our again, so far as the RV or the new GOI?
DC: Because he
made it so public, he is out of power now.
He has
some buddies still there, but in terms of the GOI, or CBI
and the RV,
he is out of the game.
Tony: Governments around the world have changed their
opinion of Iraq
and what they are willing to do for Iraq at this time?
DC: Not just the US, but the European Union, the UK,
Russia… the
changes they have made are amazing, and everyone is
astonished and
happy.
Tony: The storm cloud has moved on, the sun is shining
and they are
waiting for dinner to be served. What’s happening over here?
DC: The UN is ecstatic and pledging more support. In the DC area,
many preparations are being made. Many things have already occurred,
and it’s taken every by surprise how smoothly that has
run.
Everything just worked right! Thanks again to everyone who helped
with the technical and procedural process, including
those at the
world banks and all the rest. They allowed for technical problems,
but they overcame then in minutes. When they called the bosses back
and said, “We’re done!” everyone was astounded. So now the folks
managing the public rollout to the world need to have
their people in
place. They are
changing a few procedures as we speak, when to bring
in different people and coordinating with Iraq. This is all
more
ready than they expected. Everyone is being supportive of
each other’s
deals. This is
Iraq’s deal, and they are talking to everyone else as
they flesh out their final plans. We may know 50% of the plans, but
all of those plans are having their final touches put on
as we speak,
including banks getting geared up, the Fed, UST,
international banks
and national banks.
Their plan is not to wait very long to get this
done. We will not
give an exact timeline, but they are doing this
very actively, and many very positive actions have
already been taken.
Those less helpful before are now being very supportive,
and
impressing on people that they were dragging their heels
because they
didn’t want M to get the money. So everyone is saying “Great, let’s
get this done!”
Everyone is pushing strongly towards finishing this
now.
Tony: I have a
question. All this time, all these starts
and stops,
all the time we thought this was going to go, how could
they now be
caught unaware about the final rollout? And why didn’t they consult
us?
<laughter>
DC: We are all
relaxed and happy today… What do you mean they didn’t
have this planned out?
They have had plans upon plans, but given that
they wanted to make sure about Forex, the markets, the
windows for the
international banks and all that, they are having to
adjust their
plans. Also, the
political landscape has changed so many times that
they have to look at their plans A-D, mix parts of A into
D with a
dash of O. some
were resisting by NOT planning, and now they are
trying to play catch-up.
Everyone is now working diligently to get
this out. Also,
they thought they would have a lot more trouble from
M and from the administration side, so now that everyone
is working so
well together, they want to change it again. It’s like
the last-minute
huddle before the big game…
Tony: I knew we
would have those question! We didn’t
cross any line,
give out too much information, but everything is moving
forward. Iraq
is giving out more information about timelines than we
are! But they
are still not exact.
Pam: I want you to
talk about the thread on the forum called “TNT
gives back”. That
started with your request that people share what
they are going to do to pay if forward. There are well
over 500 posts
already!
Tony: You might
want to look those over, download ideas, and
collaborate on those plans. “Teamwork makes the dream work!”
DC: Callers, please continue to talk about how you will
pay it forward.
907 caller: There are some small things I want to do
regularly, and
then some big things.
We didn’t have much money; I got
my first pair
of glasses from the Lions Club and I will always remember
what it was
like to see the leaves on the trees again. Also, the
Kiwanis give
scholarships for young people going to college. There is also a
website where you can buy a chicken, goat or cow for
people in Africa,
to help them. There is a dinner theatre group near here
that is all
unpaid, and I love their productions.
For the bigger things, there is a place called Quixote
Village in
Washington. It’s a
place with cabins and a meeting hall for the
homeless. They do
classes for all sorts of things like how to write
your resume, cooking classes and such. The last thing is that my
husband and I could only have the one child, and some years
ago we
adopted a family of six.
We didn’t realize how expensive it would be
to look after all those kids. So I want to start a post-adoption
place, so that we could buy reliable vehicle for a family
with that
many kids, or they could apply for us to pay their
bills. This sounds
kind of frivolous, but we would pay for them to go on
vacations.
That’s where you the bonding, and that’s what they need
more than
anything. My kids
needed each other even more than me. I
said I
would take them all or not at all, and two decided not to
be adopted…
Tony/DC: Wow! That’s incredible!
Tony: My daughter
went through the glasses thing when she was little,
and that is exactly what she said; “What are those things
on the
trees?” And of course we said, “They’re leaves!” [my computer crashed
and I missed a bit]
A couple of months ago this got too intense for me, and I
stepped
back. Then I
looked at the forum, and there is a place where people
do good for each other.
People reach out to others, and you can ask
questions, and people do their own research. I stepped a bit
backwards, and I saw your team, where people go out of
there way to be
of service to each other.
They don’t just talk it, they live it every
day. Then I took
another step back and saw your intel team who put in
all this work and
never can be repaid. And then there are
also all
these other people impatient to help each other! It blew my mind! We
were knee deep in a river of decency.
Tony: That evolved over time. We never intended to do it, but once I
got involved I couldn’t back out. I did say ‘fidiots’ a few times,
because I asked someone once what was lower than idiots,
and they
replied, “fools”, so they became ‘fidiots’.
Caller: I’d like
to ask Pam a question. Would you like an
opportunity to throw someone ELSE under the bus? <laughter>
Pam: I really
enjoyed what you said also. You’re
right, we have an
amazing team, with wonderful people on the site. We appreciate each
and every one of you!
And I do love the term “fidiots”.
Caller: You
inspire me to be a better person, and I’m deeply grateful.
512 caller: Just
have one quick question: when are you
expecting the
packages? When we will have the post-RV instructions?
Tony: You mean,
when will the RV be announced? Go ahead,
DC…
DC: We won’t know
until right before or right after it goes quietly
international.
Caller: Will the
General’s group get any kind of priority release of
the 800 numbers?
DC: We don’t know;
they are deciding that kind of thing right now.
If they are given a ‘first at bat’ it will be a very
quick one. I’m
not part of that group myself. Our understanding is that
the rest of
us will be in shortly thereafter. It’s more of an organizing function
than preferential treatment as such.
Caller: I thought
the General’s group has 300,00 in it!
DC: I understand
that there are 30,000, so I don’t know about that.
Caller:
[appreciation] It wouldn’t’ have been easy getting through
this without your updates three times per week.
Tony: I was staying away from the group thing, because I
would have
told the truth!
Seriously, we don’t know yet.
727 caller: I am a
first-time caller, and on the last call of this
type. We do have a
plan. We lost our youngest son four
years ago;
he made a few mistakes, got caught with marijuana and it
was a felony.
Or the last part of his life, he went for jobs at minimum
wage and no
one would hire a young man with a felony. We want to set
up some
houses for veterans, and have them help these young
people who are
otherwise stuck in the system. They cannot get a job, so they go
where they have to go to get money. So we’ll set up these houses, and
have the vets train them in trades like construction, so
that they
don’t get in trouble or get incarcerated. We need to change how this
works.
Tony: We can make
a difference in this world. I want to
clarify once
again that I will NOT be in politics; it’s not what I want to do with
my life. I don’t’
smoke marijuana or anything else.
Marijuana laws
are changing, and the laws are changing because now the
big
corporations are saying it’s their turn to make the big
money instead
of people doing it on the streets. They’re trying to shut
down the
cigarette trade, and they will pick up the marijuana
trade. There are
people opening up smoke shops and the states where that
is legal, they
are make millions in taxes. Now it is becoming legal and respectable,
but people like your son will carry that felony the rest
of their
lives. Now we can do something for those young people to make their
lives better, rather than paying the price for the rest
of their
lives. That can be
changed, and citizens of the US can raise their
voices to make that change.
Caller: Then if
they stay clean for five years, we’ll run a lottery
so that one of the employees can own the home. That can be the vet or
the trainee. Until
then, they each pay a dollar a month and also pay
it forward by training other young men like that. It won’t help our
son, but maybe it will help our neighbor’s son.
At one point in time there was a guru who said, “Who does
that make
sense to?” It was
regarding the Zim and dropping all the zeros.
Now
everyone seems to be onboard with dropping the
zeros. Has something
changed? I’ve
heard six zeros are being dropped.
Tony: That makes
sense because, just like there was a plan for Iraq
and the Middle East, there is a plan for Africa. It makes
sense
because of the growth potential of Africa, with all the
minerals they
have there. Africa is more of a project than the ME, so
there has to
be more of an incentive, but the benefits will be
tremendous.
DC: You nailed it
in terms of the incentives for turning decimated
countries into a real
powerhouse. Zimbabwe’s leader is
really a
dictator, and they are in the plans… If he is out of the
way, the
country has nowhere to go but up. If they can get a better government
that stops doing bad things, there is a tremendous opportunity. The
same thing is true is the Congo and Liberia. If you can take those
homicidal idiots out of there, they will grow tremendous
speed. It
will be like Iraq ten years ago, only faster because they
have the
guidance and the money to do it right.
Caller: Have you
heard anything about the billions?
DC: Only about the
trillions; I don’t know about the rest
of the currency.
248 caller: I live
in a rundown neighborhood, and I have this fantasy
to spruce up my house and move, and also to somehow allow
some other
people to do the same, so that I can raise up the whole
neighborhood.
I’m now sure how to do it yet. I could have walked away from my
mortgage, but I’m going to pay off the mortgage, gut the
house and
renovate it. Then
I will offer grants so that my neighbors can do the
same. Also I will
set up college funds for my grandchildren,
structured so that they will also have to pay it forward
somehow.
There are two charities I feel strongly about – the first
is for
children being sold into sexual slavery. I will give funds to that.
I am also concerned about suffering animals; I’d like to set up a
foundation for the smaller shelters that take in animals
but don’t
have the structure and food that they need to expand and
flourish.
All you have to do is look around any day, and you’ll see
the dogs and
cats in the streets living feral. If people had more funds, they
could take more care.
Tony: Those are
great ideas, taking care of children and animals.
When they have those adverts on television, I cannot bear
to even look
at those animals long enough to get to the donation
part. I can’t
watch that stuff!
DC: It’s rough on
me, too.
Tony: Those are
great things to be involved in.
Caller: With
funding any organization, it’s important to do your
homework, so that you know who is running it. Some of them barely get
any money to those doing the work. That’s why I want to work with the
smaller shelters.
Tony: There are
man organizations that need money, but if you are
getting involved with changing people’s lives, you want
to get
personally involved and relay knowing who you are working
with. Even
overseas, go with your money and make sure the right
people get it.
They will appreciate it that much more, I promise you.
818 caller:
I brought a couple of elderly
friends in, and they are
hard of hearing;
would it be okay to go with them to the 800
appointment so that I can help them understand what is
going on.
DC: We have been reassured that anyone with a disability
can take in
anyone they need. Everyone will be accommodating those
who need the
help.
Caller: I want to
set up something state by state, working with
veterans, helping their families pay bills and buy
food. Then I want
to set up a second foundation for vets who have been
wounded,
connecting them with doctors because they don’t always
get the help
through the VA. I
want to buy some hotels or motels where there
families can be housed during treatment, with food trucks
that come by
and give them dinner.
510 caller: I was
the one who you thought I was still on but I
dropped off on Wednesday.
So I wanted to say what I intend to do.
First, though, this is the perfect storm – the markets,
currencies and
gold are all down.
I see that the PM is getting rid of corrupt
minsters and they are reading the budget on Tuesday. Is that the
date?
DC: There are
crossed wires here. They are seating the
government on
Saturday or possible Sunday, and the budget is just going
over some
things on Tuesday.
Caller: My plan
started way before it was fashionable, when I first
got the dinar.
Like Tony, I do know how to make money.
I want to
give out a billion dollars to create program starting with 200-300
kids full scholarships per year, to any school that they
qualify for,
and then ask them to volunteer three months per year
each. I am
bringing on board a businessman I know who is well able
to run this.
Take my number if you’d like me to fold in some of your
foster kids as
well.
Tony: Do you know
Donald Forell? He used to play for the
Warriors
and he lives near you.
He has a program like that, and that might
appeal to you. You guys can probably help each other.
Caller: I will
have that much after I’ve turned it over, and I might
have some ideas for you, too.
Tony: Will this
three months volunteering be after school or during school?
Caller: They will
have to give in an essay on how they will volunteer
every year. That
has to be set up beforehand, and they will have to
keep up their grades as well. It’s a key point that they
must
volunteer.
Tony: It sounds
like you’ve got it worked out. I’m sure
we will talk again.
Skype caller: So
you think it’s going to happen this weekend, huh?
DC: I very much
hope it will. Again, we’ve been proven wrong so many
time, you get a little gun shy. Everything looks phenomenal.
Caller: We are planning to reach out to the ‘forgotten
face of
freedom’, meaning the families of the fallen. Many soldiers have lost
their lives, some in Iraq. Many had inheritances or money
that came to
them upon their soldiers’ deaths, but those children
still need help.
We want to see what we can do to honor their fallen
parents. Wounded
Warriors is a good program, but the children are often
forgotten. So
that’s a foundation that we will start and work on.
Tony: I’m glad
people are looking at the children. They are
resilient, but they hold on to these traumas.
Caller: It’s a
one-income family, now, so we want to help enrich
those lives. Also,
is there anything in the packages for the
non-profits, so we know where we stand?
Tony: We haven’t
got the packages yet. What would be
helpful is if
you start a thread on the forum with all the questions
you want us to
ask the bank. Then
we could be ready beforehand, and you could be
doing that right now.
Caller: We are
tax-exempt, but want to know about the process and the calls.
DC: We haven’t
heard about the packages as yet, but so far as I know
foundations will be treated like individuals, making
their
appointments on the 800 lines.
Caller: Let’s hope
this is the weekend the apple shakes free from the tree.
601 caller: You
said you couldn’t talk about the window;
can you
talk about rates?
DC: That window has been defined by public sources.
Tony: We cannot talk about the rates and don’t know what
the taxes
will be, because he haven’t got the packages. WE have some ideas, but
it’s changed in the last few days.
Caller: Nobody has
talked about talking about the elderly yet.
Many
have to choose between medicine and food. I want to start a
foundation on helping those guys.
Tony/DC: Thant’s
great! Whoever you give money to, whether
it’s
children, elderly, vets or the unemployed, you must think
about how it
affects their situation.
If you give money to someone in a care home,
that goes to the care home. Find out how giving someone a house
affects the rest of their lives.
Caller: My plan
was more along the lines of paying for the drugs at
the drugstore, for instance, rather than handing out the
money
directly.
DC: That’s a great
way to get around that.
Caller: I’m
disabled, and I know what it’s like paying for meds and
insurance, and then going to the grocery store…
Tony: Be careful
this this next guy – he’s an attorney and might set
traps for you!
Next caller: Has
the PM been officially seated or sworn?
DC: Yes, they did
the swearing in yesterday, and the
seating last
night or this morning, and the rest of the government
will be seated
this weekend.
Caller: You’ve talked about timelines pushing this out –
is that
around the world or here?
DC: Right now they
are trying to figure out to handle this process –
whether to use the shotgun approach, or something more
streamlined.
There are logistic issues to work through. With the resources they
have, how do they make it go as smoothly as possible for
us in the US
– both individuals and the banks. They divide dinarland
into three
categories. One is
the people in groups, like the Admiral’s group.
Then there are the dinarians who are not in groups but
who actively
listen to us and other gurus. That’s up to a quarter million people.
The remainder is the 4.5 million general public. The dinarians will
jump on the phone lines, and they want to get us through
the doors in
an orderly way.
They know that Tony and I want to help, and they see
that we can help get that quarter million through the
doors before the
rush of the general public as they ramp this up. They have to make
sure everyone is in place at the banks, and then get us
through as
easily as possible.
Some want to use the shotgun and let the chips
fall where they may.
Others say that we already have the names and
numbers of people
in groups, so we can divide this thing up.
It is
not a delay tactic, a stall tactic, or a preferential
treatment
tactic; they just
want to handle people in the fairest way possible.
Caller: So are
there financial institutions where people can also exchange?
DC: Yes, that is
part of the plan.
Caller: I want to
help the kids of the wounded warriors as well, to
give them a college education. I’m in the same boat as you, DC; I
was mostly raised by
my grandmother and we didn’t have a pot to piss
in or a window to throw it out of. I worked for years in
petrochemical industry with my wife, and with the crash
nine years ago
I was out of a job, had nowhere to live, and into a divorce. Well,
you know better than to make a decision in a time in
emotion. My
father also taught me to treat others the way you want to
be treated.
I don’t want anyone to go through what I had to go
through to get my
education. I
worked the night shift at a funeral home at minimum
wage, and it got me through. I learned a lot, but don’t want anyone
else to go through it.
There were positive things about it – if your
car breaks down in a small town, there is nowhere better
to go.
Education is the key, though, and I want those kids to
have that.
DC: It’s vital to
have a plan before you spend any money.
Set aside
the money for taxes and for tithing. How much can you then give
folks, and how much will you have to live off. It’s
wonderful to have
all these incredible plans, but you also need to have a
plan on how to
keep that going rather than it being a one-time
event. It’s a
lifestyle change.
Tony: What you are
saying is that it’s like being in an airplane and
the mask pops down.
Make sure you take care of yourself first, and
then take care of others.
Make sure you money is making money FIRST,
and then give from the profits of your money. Many people have won
the lottery, and they bought everything they wanted like
houses and
cars. They took the balance of their money and put it to
work until
they ran it up to the exact amount they won in the
lottery, and they
use only the income from that money. That keeps their
foundation
going. Only the
interest can be used, not the capital.
731 caller: Three
weeks ago I was listening to your call, and I wrote
down PM = RV. Now
we have to get the government established, and
that’s happening. Now you’re saying we need a stable
government – do
we have that in the US with all the polarization we have
now. Do you
think everything is where we need to be?
Tony: When I said
it’s a super-fantastic day, and all the information
DC has given out, and the public information in Iraqi
media, it all
says that they are pushing the go button. They are working
on the
exact moment to let this go. Everyone who had resistance is no longer
resisting. They
want to release it with the least turmoil and that is
what they are talking about now, not how to stall it out
again. The
only thing we are not saying si the exact moment it will
be announced.
DC: We don’t
believe they are waiting on anything else.
Some
processes are even ahead of schedule, so really this is a
last-minute
huddle before the game. They are saying, “Okay, we’ll run
this play
and that play; go
out and play the game!”
Caller: Of course
we will take of the church first, but after that,
my wife wants me to spend money on therapy. After Monday’s call I
woke her up at 1am shouting, “Who does that make sense
to?” and then
at 2am “Rich people don’t shoot each other!”
DC: My wife said
to me yesterday, “Next time you wake me up at 2am,
I’m going to hit you” because that’s when I talk to my
Iraqi guys.
858 caller: Aren’t
there problems with ISIS? Is there a
chance of
Iraq being split into three parts?
DC: There is
always a chance, but ISIS is being contained by special
forces from around the world. They are not someone to take lightly,
but Iraq is now showing themselves to the world as being
on top of
their game – they are helping themselves and so the world
is willing
to help them more.
Tony: I was
watching CNN the other day, with all these retired
officers, and one said Kurdistan is going its own
way. A few years
ago there was even a map showing Iraq and Kurdistan as
two different
countries. With
all the changes lately, I do think they will stay as
one country and they will become a resort location to
rival Dubai.
Caller: I would
like to work with children who are at risk.
My uncle
built a school for kids who didn’t make it thought the
foster system,
and they have a 97% graduation rate. I have a model in that
residential school, and I want to help them go to
college, too.
Tony: That’s
great. If you have a model that’s
working, share the
model, the name of the school and they can contact them
for help. No
need to reinvent the wheel.
Caller: The school is in Escondido, California.
843 caller: I’m
going to open a foundation to provide therapy for
post-dinar stress syndrome.
Tony: They already exist – they’re called shopping malls!
Caller: If you
expect this to happen any moment, why don’t’ you have
the packages?
Also, I keep checking the dealers, they are still
selling. What’s
going to happen with the dealers and the packages?
Tony: You apart
from our tweets and announcements, where else can you
check it out? When we make the announcement, the dealers
will have
changed their rates.
Dealers have changed their procedures, but they
are not going to change their rates until after the fact.
What we are
doing is getting you prepared for it. Afterwards, you’ll see it
immediately, the banks will be able to tell you, and then
you will
know it has actually occurred. All we can tell you is what we
anticipate.
DC: I would argue that
often things change at the dealers, and the
dealers we talk to are just as exhausted as we are. They have been
notified many times already, “it’s in the window, trade
at your own
risk”, and now they are dealing until they get their
final
notification from the UST. Meanwhile, they are just as frustrated as
we are.
Tony: They’ve been
having conference calls and been given their
instructions, same as we do. The whole system gets ramped
up; they
just don’t get as hyped as we do.
240 caller: I have
a question about Multi-Currency Accounts (MCA).
Can private citizens have those? Most banks I talk to say they are
for international business.
DC: If you have
enough money, you will get an MCA. If
you have money
and you have a justifiable reason for that account, they
will set on
up for you. If you
are dealing with several different currencies all
the time, with vendors in China or Australia, they pay
into that
account in their own currency and deal with conversions
that way. It
is not usually used for currency speculation; they are providing a
service for you.
Tony: There is a
bank that is planning to offer MCAs for private citizens.
Caller: Will there
be someone from that banks on your calls after the
RV, when you are instructing us in the packages?
Tony: That is what we have been told, and they are the
ones
structuring the calls. If it’s confused and messed up, it
wasn’t my
idea! We’ll just
see how it goes.
Caller: I mean
after the RV, where you are trying to be
part of the
solution so this process flows with a measure of
stability. Why not
have someone with skin in the game be on the calls, like
with
OpenMike.
DC: That is the plan, but it’s not done until it’s
done. They may
decide “Na, let people fend for themselves; we are doing to shut
those gurus down.” But others know that we are wiling to
be the
conduit and help with preparations to make it smoother.
Tony: And we will
help, because by that time we’ll be done, and our
only aim is to help you guys get through the
process. Even in the
meetings prior to those calls, we are in there
representing you and
your questions.
That is why we want you to post those questions on
the forum, so that they can understand the issues on the
ground.
DC: They are
making last-minute changes, so we’ll all have to be
flexible and make this as smooth as possible.
Caller: I
appreciate that because there are grey areas.
We
appreciate all you do.
We have seen the MCA bounced around as a way
to avoid taxes, but surely you will have taxes one way or
another.
Isn’t that a way to put yourself in the crosshairs?
Tony: It’s more
about the first mouse and second mouse, and long-term
strategies around further changes in the currency
situation. That’s
why I would have an MCA.
DC: My point is
that Uncle Sam will get his cut in the end.
For tax
issues, MCAs are kind of rough. I think people are giving advice from
a peripheral knowledge.
They are listening to these calls and
watching the boards, and plugging up the holes while they
track what
we use these exchanges for.
Tony: That’s the
main reason they wanted to wait until the 1st of
July, so that they can track those currencies.
Caller: I want to
help the kids and also the police, especially the
K-9 police who sometimes lose officers.
DC: I want to
thank everyone for their wonderful PIF plans. That
makes us feel like we make a difference here. The next deal is I want
everyone to plan on how to make your money make
money. Don’t give
away all your money before figuring out how to make this
money last a
lifetime. Everything is super cued-up and we are ready
for this to
have this done right now.
I used only public sources, and not insider
sources to talk about timelines.
Pam: Boy, that was
fun watching DC scramble like that! This
Pay It
Forward thing we are spending time on is because we think
it will make
a difference to those listening. They need to know that we are not a
bunch of money-hungry dinarians. No one will get your names or
details – it’s just between us.
Ray: Enjoy your
fabulous Friday and the good that is to come.
Tony:
Congratulations to the people of Iraq, you deserve this. You
deserve to have heat and electricity, food on your table
and to take
your kids to school. Your family has a great future. Congratulations
to you and to your government! Democracy is now in your hands.
There was a negative image of dinarians being passed
around, so we
wanted people to understand who we are and our purpose in
being here.
This RV was not set up for our benefit, but we do
benefit, and we will
pay that forward to benefit others.
If you look at the public sources, you can see that
everything has
been accomplished that was required for this to be
released. Iraq did
a total 180 turn in the last 24 hours! People have changed their
attitudes, they are celebrating, and this will change
their society,
too. I don’t seen
another obstacle. They are talking about
HOW to do
this, right now – how to get this party started, and then
when to get
it started. That’s
a different place than we have been in for the
last four years. I
don’t see any way to turn this around when
everyone has done what they had to do.
Enjoy your day and your weekend, and I fully expect to do
a tweet
today, tomorrow, this weekend, and for us to do another
call,
hopefully before Monday. Have a great day! Comment
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8-15-14 Stryker: Phoenix made some crazy statement today
or did he?
I will cover this and more on A Special LIVE Webcast at
12:00 noon CST Today.
LIVE LINK
ON DEMAND LINK
Stryker Blog – Comment
8-15-14 Lojak: I hate to break the news...but things will
be going
VERY fast, including the new govt and monetary policy
change. : )
Comment
8-15-14 Stage3Alpha: INTEL SNACK 10:05 AM EST.
PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE PRICES OF GOLD AND SILVER
TODAY, AND THE
FORMATION OF THE NEW IRAQ GOVERNMENT & THE
ELIMINATION OF MANY
MINISTRIES IN IRAQ AS THE BUDGET IS STREAMLINED.
1. THE EAST TO WEST MOVEMENT IS OFFICIALLY IN MOTION
GLOBALLY.
2. THE DIGITAL TRN'S (USN'S) ARE NO LONGER A MYTH.
3. PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO BANKS LOCATED IN FREE TRADE
ZONES.
4. USA BANKS ARE NOW TALKING IF YOU ASK THE RIGHT
QUESTIONS (HINT HINT)
Comment
8-15-14 Iraqi News: Washington hails “historic and
peaceful transition
of power in Iraq”
On Friday, the United States of America described the
transition of
the outgoing Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, to his
successor, Haider
al-Abadi, as “a historic and peaceful transition of power
in Iraq.”
The Turkish Anatolia news agency quoted on the U.S.
Secretary of State
John Kerry as saying, “We applaud the important and
honorable decision
of the outgoing Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki to support
the
designated Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi in his efforts
to form a
new government, as well as to develop a national program
in line with
the schedule of the Iraqi constitution.”
Kerry considered that “this decision provides for the
historic and
peaceful transition of power in Iraq.”
Maliki declared on Thursday (14 August 2014) his support
for
designated Prime Minister, Haider al-Abadi, and the
withdrawal of the
lawsuit he had brought against the President Fuad Masum
through the
Iraqi Supreme Federal Court. Article Link - Comment
8-15-14 EXOGEN: BREAKING NEWS: LBMA Silver Price Launches
New Era in
Pricing Precious Metals.
LONDON, Aug. 15, 2014 /PRNewswire/ -- CME Group, the
world's leading
and most diverse derivatives marketplace, and Thomson
Reuters, the
world's leading source of intelligent information for
businesses and
professionals, have launched the new LBMA Silver Price
mechanism in
partnership with the London Bullion Market Association
(LBMA). CME
Group.
Thomson Reuters and LBMA have joined forces to provide
the
over-the-counter spot silver market with a new
transaction-based
price-setting mechanism for the LBMA Silver Price that is
IOSCO-compliant and fully electronic.
CME Group will provide the electronic auction platform on
which the
price will be calculated.
Thomson Reuters will be responsible for administration
and governance
and the LBMA will accredit price participants. The new
LBMA Silver
Price benchmark will be published and distributed by
Thomson Reuters
and will be available on the LBMA's website. Comment
8-15-14 Iraqi News: The Religious Authority described the
regional and
international support and hailing for the designation of
the new PM as
a new and rare chance for Iraq. Article Link - Comment
8-15-14 Stage3Alpha: BREAKING NEWS: Ban Ki-moon welcomes
the decision
by al-Maliki to step down from power.
Welcomed the Secretary-General of the United Nations Ban
Ki-moon, the
decision of the Prime Minister outgoing Nuri al-Maliki to
step down
from power and was succeeded by his pledge to support
Haider al-Abadi.
This came in a statement by the Secretary-General of the
International
Organization issued by the Information Office last night
and said he
looked forward to the rapid formation of a government of
broad and
comprehensive. Comment
8-15-14 TD: YEP, M is gone BECAUSE he got most everything
he wanted:
immunity, residences, pensions, lifetime bodyguards, etc.
etc. In any
case people are relieved and finally able to look at a
new and
certainly more of a promising future.
Word from there indicates that both Masum and Abadi are
honorable men,
persons of character and inclusive in both mind and
heart. Iraqis are
FINALLY blessed with the proper leadership. Both Masum
and Abadi want
and will improve the daily situation of the average Iraqi
and
eventually that also means being able to live on better
wages and more
purchasing power. This info is coming from my contact who
has inner
contacts with these folks.
Make no mistake much work lies ahead to now form a
government,
establish and modify programs. And of course address the
security
situation which will require months of rebuilding the
military to
regain the over 1/3 of the country lost to the
disgraceful ISIL group.
I can tell you firsthand that a new era of hope is
swarming through
the nation and it's heart warming to see this occur.
Comment
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8-14-14 Already Blessed: I THINK IT IS A TAKE YOUR PHONE
TO BED NIGHT. Comment
8-14-14 Tlar: This is for those that truly don't
understand what's
going on and why we are ready to see this investment
finally come to a
close.
A SHORT HISTORY
If you have been following what's going on then you
understand the
complexities involved in peacefully removing an
entrenched dictator.
Our government put together a plan starting about 6
months ago to
remove peacefully the Maliki installed government.
This was no easy task considering this government
involved
appointments by Maliki in as many positions of power that
he could.
Most of his family and people that he considered loyal to
him, no
matter their abilities are now what constitutes the
Maliki government.
He personally controlled the military, the secret police,
the
policeman on the street, and the entire security
apparatus. He also
controlled and paid for by his Executive share of the
budget, 6000
private bodyguards (goons) all carrying government cards
showing their
legitimacy.
The Iraqi experience had gone astray over the last 8
years with the
aspirations of one individual seeking to become the next
Saddam. With
him it he carried the same hatred of the other sects that
had plagued
the previous regime.
This regime had a sense now that they were in charge,
they would
punish those who had previously been in charge. It found
itself
ultimately doing many of the same things that Saddam had
done.
They would right the wrongs committed on the Shia by the
previous
regime. Trust was not yet there between the sects.
Hatreds were still
being harbored by the different sects even though it had
not
manifested itself yet.
In the eight years that followed it would raise its ugly
head and
divisions amongst the sects would manifest itself into
duplicating the
wrongs of the past. Secret prisons, torture and
punishment for the
previous wrongs were ingrained and built into this Maliki
government.
These harbored hatreds were ingrained extremely deep as
the crimes
that Saddam had perpetuated on the Shia were still fresh
in the minds
of Maliki. Crimes like genocide still festered in his
mind and the
Shia were still nursing the wounds of the past.
The wounds cast on the Shia under the Saddam regime were
still fresh
as Maliki took office in 2006.
Maliki remembered his own exile experiences and the death
camps and
the mass graves. Maliki could never get over it and let
go. He had a
secret deep seated hatred of the Sunni's.
He set out at the first of his administration to punish
the Kurds and
the Sunni's never really bringing them in the fold. Even
today the
Maliki government has turned out to be willing to
extinguish itself
based on these beliefs unwilling to work with the Sunni's.
This government had to go or the Iraqi experience was
doomed to failure.
Maliki is a complex individual. He decided in 2009 after
having won a
great victory (battle) against the Sadrists (a Shia
group) in Sadr
city that he would rise to greatness.
In other words he started to believe his own press. At
that time he
had the backing of both Iran and the US and he knew
nothing could stop
him now. He started making his move to take over Iraq in
2009.
The election of 2010 (his second term) was actually won
by one vote
and the winner was the Sunni's who ran Allawi (a Shia)
against Maliki
as their candidate. The vote was 89 to 90 in favor of
Allawi.
Maliki immediately set up an alliance building a
consortium of Shia
groups to counter Allawi's group, finally putting enough
Shia blocks
together, but he still fell short of getting and out
right win.
Needed was a majority of 165 our of 328. One half plus
one. Neither
Maliki or Allawi could gather the 165 MP's necessary to
put together a
government for a win. Next he approached his supreme
court and had
them rule that the NA, his newly formed Alliance ruled as
the largest
block.
At the urging and pressure by the US, a deal was finally
struck at
Erbil, Kurdistan, November of 2010.
The Sunni's and the Kurds both agreed to back Maliki for
PM for 19
concession Maliki made to them at that meeting. So 9
months after the
elections, Maliki was installed as the PM again and the
elections were
finally ratified and over.
There was 19 points in this agreement and every point
agreed to was
broken almost from the moment Maliki was voted in as
Prime Minister.
He honored nothing he agreed to, but he was the new PM in
charge.
Maliki immediately set about to become dictator of Iraq.
Although he had agreed at Erbil to place all the Ministry
positions
within a set period of time agreeing to let the Interior
and Security
Ministry positions go one each to the Kurds and Sunni's,
he
immediately reneged. He kept the control of these key
Ministries never
assigning these to anybody.
Quite simply Maliki needed to control the guys who
carried the guns in
order to achieve his aspirations to become a dictator.
Next he also
needed to control the press, an absolutely necessary in
order to
complete his transition to the supreme leader (dictator).
He set about closing the free press. It was only through
threats by
the United States that he finally backed off.
For the last four years Maliki has attempted to solidify
his control
and continued to place relatives, friends and people he
felt he could
trust in positions of power. Most were not qualified but
he put them
there because he could trust them and he could direct
them.
Ministries such as the Electricity Ministry never did supply
electricity to the people but 6 billion came up missing
and phony
contracts with phony companies were discovered as part of
a systematic
pilfering of Iraq's wealth. This went on for 8 years and
cost Iraq
billions and billion of its countries treasury.
Maliki himself has stocked away 25 billion in Qatar,
England, Syria
and the UK making him one of the richest men in the
world. His
relatives, business associates and trusted friends also
were all on
the take.
Shabibi told the news in early 2013 he was in possession
of the
account numbers and amounts that had been given to him
buy the
Jordanian government proving up the billions they had
sitting in their
banks stolen by the leadership of Iraq.
All of these crooks either were protected by Maliki or
part of the
government and had their own immunity. It got so bad that
Qatar
published the fact that they would no longer open
accounts or accept
deposits from Iraqi politicians or members of the Iraqi
government.
The theft coming out of Iraq earned them the number 1
position on
corrupt governments for a few years in a row. This went
on throughout
the Maliki years as Maliki and his band of thieves
pilfered the wealth
of Iraq and stopping all progress of the Iraqi economy.
He attempted to get his hands on the CBI reserves on
numerous
occasions actually finally removing Shabibi, a renowned
figure within
both the IMF and the World banking System.
Shabibi had stoned walled him on releasing any reserves
to him. Maliki
had previously made a 5 billion dollar personal loan from
the CBI and
had never made any attempt to make any payment nor did
attempt to pay
it back.
Shabibi knew he could not trust Maliki and would not take
orders from
him, so Maliki thought he had to go. Maliki harped for
over two years,
accusing him of everything from theft and gross
incompetence to
laundering money.
Maliki got his best chance to remove him while Shabibi
was at a
banking conference in Japan at the end of 2012 by placing
charges on
him and threatening to arrest Shabibi the minute he
stepped of an
airplane at the Bagdad airport.
Needless to say Shabibi never returned to Iraq. Maliki
appointed Turki
to the post of Governor of the CBI in the last quarter of
2012 because
he felt Turki was a Maliki supporter and would answer to
him.
Turki did not know much about running the CBI but Maliki
thought he
could count on Turki to be obedient and do his bidding.
The US
Treasury, IMF and WB immediately descended on the CBI and
took Turki
under their wing.
Within a month they had turned Turki making him
understand the
importance of his task at the same time making him
understand who he
was working for. When Maliki came with his first request
to raid the
reserves, Turki told him he would never get his hands on
the reserves
as long as he was there.
Maliki turned on his guy immediately saying he was going
to replace
him. Next he started accusing him of incompetence and
then theft of
ten tons of gold. Turki survived the personal attacks and
became
stronger for it. Turki still runs the CBI today and is on
board with
the plan.
CURRENTLY HAPPENING
That leads us to the election that just took place. A
storm was
brewing as Maliki continued to marginalize the Sunni's
and screw over
the Kurds not doing or implementing any of the 19 points
he had agreed
to at Erbil.. He was instrumental in keeping all laws
that were
important to the Sunni's and Kurds, such as the HCL, the
Federation
Council and Article 140 from being passed.
Also any laws that would advance the economy were slowed
or put on
hold. Mlaliki was vehemently against enacting the tariffs
laws that
were crucial to the plan so he always said "not this
year."
Enter the Sunni rebellion. The Sunni's had had it with
the Maliki
government and so did the Kurds. Sunni's were
disappearing in the
middle of the night and there is still a reported 100,000
Sunni's
considered the political opposition, incarcerated in
Jails in Iraq.
Hakim developed the plan to remove Maliki.
If the Kurds and Sunni's were on board and could muster
their people,
there was enough Shia sick of Maliki ready to take Maliki
out. Hakim
met one by one with everyone that ended up in the
coalition and
slowly, 6 months before the election, the coalition was
born under the
rallying cry of "no more Maliki." So a plan was
built to remove
Maliki.
Sunni's started a rebellion that still rages on today.
They safe
harbored Daash and the ISIS both terror groups operating
in Syria,
using them as pawns to exacerbate the situation. Had
Sunni's alone
done this Maliki could have been justified in calling it
a civil war,
potentially rallying Shiites to the cause.
But being terrorists, the country came together. The
Sunni's have said
since the beginning of the up rising that the minute
Maliki is out of
the picture they will throw the terrorist organizations
out by
themselves.
Today both the Peshmerga and the Iraqi army accompanied
by US air
support and British ground troops have turned the tide on
these guys.
Everyday the good guys are slaughtering the bad guys and
the head of
the ISIS, the new self declared Caliph, has scrambled
back to Syria
knowing if they stay in Iraq, they will be killed. The
Dam has been
liberated and the towns leading to Erbil have been
retaken by the
Peshmerga.
The Peshmerga stated they will have Mosul liberated in 24
hours. It
will take about a week but it is expected that all
elements of both
Daash and the ISIS will go back to Syria to save their
lives.
None of our ground troop, the Pesh, the Iraqi army or the
Sunni's are
taking prisoners. They are slaughtering the terrorists
where they find
them. This tide will really kick into high gear on the
announcement of
Maliki's death, departure or being arrested.
WHAT'S STILL TO COME
A new day and a new society is now emerging that beacons
change. The
experiment that was designed in 2003 is just now coming
to fruition.
Iraq will emerge as a non-sectarian democrat Middle
Eastern Country.
In the next 24-48 hours we should see the departure of
Maliki.
Maliki had filed a lawsuit with the Supreme Court as a
last stand. The
lawsuit is intended to stall or stop the formation of the
government.
The court if they do rule, will favor the citizens of
Iraq.
It will fall in favor of the new government. This
afternoon Maliki got
with his party and announced he will no longer seek the
PM position.
Rumor has it that he has accepted a deal. He has been
granted some
part of an immunity deal and has agreed to leave Iraq.
Whether he breaks this promise or not makes no
difference. He will be
removed if he breaks the deal.
Iran has offered him, his wife and both of his daughter’s
asylum. They
did not offer his son asylum. Iran has written visas for
everyone but
his son. Most likely I expect between now and Friday
night he will be
gone. His closet advisor left Iraq for parts unknown
today. His family
is in England.
Today there was a protest in the streets of Bagdad.
People were
chanting "go away Maliki." They were throwing
their shoes at any
picture of him they could find and that is the biggest
insult you can
show in this culture.
THE CURRENCY
This is the part most of you think about and I understand
that and
that is the reason I have saved the best for last. Most
of you I know
could give a hoot about the lay of the land or the
politics.
It has been because of this that it has taken so long to
see this
investment come to a close. Show me the money! That has
become my
chant too. I am sick of Iraq and I have worn my finger to
a frazzle.
Here's a tidbit.
The clock does not start with the formation of the new
government as I
had thought all along.
The clock will start on the first verifiable news that
Maliki is gone.
Within 48 hours, TURKI WILL PULL THE TRIGGER.
When D-day comes I will put out an email making just a
few suggestions
concerning your selling dinars. I hope to be done with
this this
coming weekend or next week.
Stop and think before you sell your dinars.
This is a currency with potential at any number they come
out at. They
are only producing 50% of the oil they intend to be
producing by 2020,
6 short years from now.
They will have solved their government problems and if
they can get
their act together economically, they will be the richest
country in
the world. Their currency should continue to increase in
value over at
least the next 5-6 years. Comment
8-14-14 Iraqi News: Obama: We will continue air strikes
in Iraq to
protect Americans and American installations.
On Thursday, US President Barack Obama indicated that the
air strikes
will continue in Iraq to protect Americans and American
establishments, while noting that the situation in Iraq
is still
deteriorated because of the organization of the Islamic
State of Iraq
and the Levant, ISIL.
Obama said, in a televised statement followed by
IraqiNews.com, that
“American air strikes will continue in Iraq to protect
Americans and
American establishments,” pointing out that “Washington
won the
support of its partners.”
Obama considered that “the situation in Iraq is still so
bad due to
the organization of ISIL,” stressing at the same time
“the need to
form an inclusive government that is going in the right
direction.”
On Thursday, the American Embassy in Iraq announced the
delivery of 15
million pieces of ammunition to Iraq while confirming
that 12 Iraqi
pilots were in America completing their training on F-16
fighter jets,
praising the military cooperation between Erbil and
Baghdad to fight
the organization of the Islamic State in Iraq and the
Levant. Article
Link – Comment
8-14-14 Arostal: Found this on another part of board...
TRAP - do not negotiate for a rate above the CONTRACT
rate... Tony
will post them when 800's are posted
TRAP - do not mix currencies in accounts
TRAP - only use the words: IQN... for Dinar VNN...
for DONG
TRAP - do NOT use the words "cash in"... say "exchange currency" for US
Dollars
Comment
8-14-14 wmawhite: "Maliki: I withdraw my candidacy
for PM in favour of
Abadi to safeguard unity & stability of Iraq,
political process"
"Maliki: I have not asked for any position in return
for stepping
down."
IMO the subject now changes from Maliki to the forming of
the
government and the passing of the budget because the new
government
cannot do anything with the budget until the status of
the IQD
changes. Remember what Turki stated the first day after
the election
in April...basically, when the political is
decided/complete I will
not hesitate to move forward and complete the
project. Iraq will
never be able to conduct international commerce unless
the status
changes of the IQD.
I see no advantage to Iraq coming onto the world
market at a low rate. Comment
8-14-14 Stage3Alpha: IRAQIS THROW STONES AT MALIKI.
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political process"
"Maliki: I have not asked for any position in return
for stepping
down."
IMO the subject now changes from Maliki to the forming of
the
government and the passing of the budget because the new
government
cannot do anything with the budget until the status of
the IQD
changes. Remember what Turki stated the first day after
the election
in April...basically, when the political is
decided/complete I will
not hesitate to move forward and complete the
project. Iraq will
never be able to conduct international commerce unless
the status
changes of the IQD.
I see no advantage to Iraq coming onto the world
market at a low rate. Comment
8-14-14 Stage3Alpha: IRAQIS THROW STONES AT MALIKI.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vjHl8bd11-E
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8-14-14 Stage3Alpha: MALIKI RESIGNS - CNN VIDEO RECORDED
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