TNT call 20-June-2014 Notes
Tony: Good morning,
TNT! Today is Friday, June 20th, 2014. There was an update to
Twitter and Skype yesterday, so if you didn’t get the tweets,
re-register. We never thought we’d be doing this call, and let’s hope
it’s the last one of THESE calls. It was an interesting day yesterday and
today, and we will get in depth on what’s happened in the last 24 hours, much
as we can, and let you know what you can look forward to. DC?
DC: Good afternoon
everybody. First I want to cover some broad things, mentalities that I
want people to think through as this draws to an end. There has been a lot of
resentment at the last minute, but everyone wins in this thing. No hard
feelings, we all get to move forward on this one. I want to acknowledge a
senior statesman we cannot name who kept this moving forward – thank you very
much.
Tony: Start with the
tweet we sent out yesterday.
DC: The tweet said
that Iraq completed their processes and paperwork at the CBI and those have
been sent to the US and GOI. It’s been a complete rollercoaster. Imagine
all the world leaders on this rollercoaster, switching positions, and each
leader has a whole rollercoaster on top of them. Everyone has been going up and
down, with issues affecting how they are moving inside their own rollercoaster
as well. It is out belief that we are wrapping up this
rollercoaster right now, and the sovereign country of Iraq is setting up it’s
revaluation. We don’t know the timeline on that; the bottom line is that there is a LOT of movement, circles
within circles, and the process is competed at
the CBI and it’s now sitting at the BIS. IT’s their country and
Tony: The paperwork was approved and accepted; that’s done.
They have set a time to do it, and that has not been done yet. They said it
would be today, and they still have time to do it today. Until
it’s actually announced, something still could happen because it always does.
DC: A lot of people changed
their minds at the last minute. A lot of legal maneuvering back and
forth, but Iraq is a sovereign country, they have
done all their homework and notifications, and they can do it on their
timelines. Some people are trying to influence that timeline
according their own advantage, but it’s done, really.
Tony: They submitted everything to all countries, and it’s going
through whether the US wants it or not; the only question
is WHEN if it goes through, within 24-48 hours.
DC: Many educated people
have an opinion on the timeline, and we know their opinions, but we don’t’ want
to be specific, because we don’t want to be an excuse for blocking this again.
We are going to walk
everybody through from Wednesday to now. If you don’t’ care about the
details, stop listening for the next 10 minutes. Maliki
made the announcement and we had a ton of confirmation that this
happened. A lot of the world said, “Can this guy really do this,
seriously?” And they were shown videos or pictures by their intelligence
agencies. Everywhere across the deal, they said, “we’re doing this on Friday and this is the rate.”
Then the great roller-coaster ride began. Some wanting to delay this for
political or personal beliefs, and the IMF heard all
this (and the BIS, too). Some said Iraq didn’t’ have all their
work done, in the last 24 hours the CBI had to fix
paperwork, etc. It has nearly done several times in the last 24 hours; they
finally got everything together, and everyone agreed they had successfully
completed all their paperwork and processes.
Then the real politics
started, where people were saying that this is too early for their people. They
have their own beliefs around that and they can make
that decision for their own citizens. Others said this is a sovereign country, and they
can do it whenever they want. Some
countries went to support Iraq, and now everyone
is saying that Iraq did all it is supposed to do, and they can choose the
timeline – and that’s the timeline Iraq is operating under now.
Tony: DC told me to send that
tweet out yesterday!
DC: And that came
out of Iraq, by the way. We got that from several sources, and that’s why we
congratulated them..
Tony: We have their timeline, announcements and celebrations are
scheduled, and that is what we are waiting for. Up and down as it was last night, it still
hasn’t happened. However, the banks are
preparing for it, and people are being put in position. We are in a super-fantastic position, and the whole world is on
standby now, waiting to see if this will happen.
DC: Everybody wants this thing; everyone gets so much out
of this. Be happy, and know that any last-minute hard feelings should
just go under the bridge. Be happy you are part of the biggest financial
move in history!
Tony: The conference
line got disconnected because there are too many people, again. Let’s go ahead
and talk to these guys, and they’ll have to listen to the recording.
We’ll keep going…
818 caller: It’s still
morning in California, and I have a couple of questions. During the last call,,
you said that the announcement of the RV had a calming effect because they get
what they want “unless it doesn’t happen on Friday”. What does that mean?
Tony: I just told
you that the dollar you have in your pocket is worth one dollar on Wednesday
and ten dollars on Friday. If you spend it, or you can save it for two
days so that it is worth more… and then after starving for two days, they say
“Nope, it’s not happening!” What would you do?
Caller: I’d be really ticked.
Tony: That’s what we expect to happen,
too, if it doesn’t happen today.
Caller: Does that meant
there will be an upsurge of discontent in Iraq?
DC: If they don’t do it
within a period of time – remembering the Arab culture is not as exacting as
the US culture in terms of time and timing – they have some cushion, but not
much of one. If things doesn’t get done as stated, there could be
security issues.
Caller: Then there was
discussion about the US waiting rather than participating.
DC: That is a great
question. One aspect is that the US Treasury, and international
banks doing international business. AS we have discussed many times in the
past, Iraq has addressed all the big banks as all
country do, and they want their citizens
to have all the financial facilities. Iraq has said that when they revalue, it’s important to know
the banks will accept it, and the banks wish to do so. That’s
been said many times. The US as a whole is a different question;
the government can do all sorts of things, but if they delay, it puts the banks
in a very awkward situation because they stand between Iraq and the US.
That is why the banks get the big bucks, to solve those issues.
Caller: the US may or
may not want to participate from the get-go, but at some point they will
participate…?
DC: It could be minute or a it could be a few days;
everyone will get over whatever, and they will be just fine in the end.
Tony: Worst case scenario?
Best thing is that it could happen in the next 15 minutes. Worst case it
will be 1. July. The US will still have to participate sooner or later
because this is a global event.
Caller: Assuming
we get the 800 numbers, are we looking at a two-meeting procedure? We
would first go to an exchange center, and then take the receipt to the bank?
Tony: So far as I know,
you will go to the bank and when you leave the money will be in the bank
account. You might have a second meeting with a wealth manager or to deal
with reserves. That’s how I understand it, anyway.
828 caller:
[appreciation] Are there any restrictions of NDA areas that would
prohibit me from using funds from the first exchange to pay off layaway
contracts?
Tony: In the
beginning we heard that was an issue. We haven’t received the package, so
we don’t know the latest on that. Until we get that information, we can’t
be sure. We have talked about it before, and I’ve explained what I would
do in that circumstance. You always have the option of making your appointment.
You can always do an exchange with your dealer for enough to pay off your
reserves, and then go to a second appointment. Or you can exchange one
note at the international rates and pay off your reserves. You need to
listen; we’ve put this on the site so you can be planning now. You need
to go over all your plans NOW, not wait until we tweet the numbers or do the
information call. You are doing the right thing asking that question now,
while we can still answer, before the NDA.
719 caller: What is the
result with Maliki? Is he in; is he out? You said the other
day that if M did A, B and C they would let him be PM, then we heard about
Chalabi. What’s up?
DC: Maliki has done a deal with his political group: If he
gets the RV deal out and completed, then they will vote for him, and if not,
they wont’.
Tony: He was given a
timeframe, and it was extended, but he still has to do it.
DC: Talking is one
thing, doing’s another. His extended time is
getting pretty narrow now.
Caller: Other parties
can drag this out so that he can’t do it, isn’t that right?
DC: He has the ability to get this done.
Caller: Several weeks
ago, you said that if this didn’t happen when the government is seated, then it
wouldn’t happen for quite a while.
DC: The government was seated on Tuesday, and they gave M a few more days
to get it done. Maliki said Friday, and
we don’t know if that’s the US Friday. They have a little extra
cushion because of their culture.
Tony: It may be 10am
on Saturday. However, there was also a
public announcement of the new government that is scheduled for Sunday.
Caller: We have people
hanging on by the skin of their teeth. Why is the US delaying this until the 1.
July? They are killing their people with this. You are looking at
fifteen million people who have influence on the political process.
People are sick and tired of being strung along.
DC: We’ve mentioned
these reasons in the past. You’re going to get over a lot of issues once
you can pay your bills and get a few fun things for yourself. Almost
everybody will get over this. In the past, many issues have been cited, such as
foreign banks and their account-holders, and all the reporting required for
security and taxes. There are bank guarantees that will change a bit and
benefit the regulatory guys. Others advance political reasons, some of
it’s just personal willfulness; others believe the banks need more time
to get ready. Each of these reasons has weighed in over the last six months. Now Iraq has sovereign control; everyone is no close enough and we’ll all be fine. I
truly believe it will be settled before the 1st of July.
Caller: [humorous
anecdote about roosters – too fast for me to transcribe] I hope that we
are done, and I hope this flies well before 1. July. People are so
stressed. On the forum they say “get on with your life”, and we do, but
some of those lives are not doing too well. I feel for the people
of Iraq, with no food or power.
Tony: this is not just
about American citizens; there are people all around the world who are
waiting this to change their lives. You know, I hate those commercials
about people mistreating dogs, and they are lonely and skinny. I also
hate the commercials where people are hungry, and the stuff in their bowls looks
like slop – it’s just nasty. Last night, the guy was showing the sugar
each person gets for a week, and it’s less than a teaspoon. We are waiting to
be rich and drive fancy cars, and people can’t even eat. I know a lot of
this money is going towards getting food, water and shelter to people who don’t
have those in foreign countries, and right here! I was smoking my cigar
last night, and at least ten people asked for a quarter. It’s just
terrible. I know people are trying to live their lives, and they can’t,
and many others don’t even have this to look forward. I know this will
come in and solve your problems, but help solve other people’s problems. Get involved in humanitarian
projects. This is not a ten-year event, this is a 50-year event that will
affect the global economy. There is
a group that has been consistently holding us back, and they need to let this
go.
404 caller: If the
tweets aren’t working, you will put the 800 numbers in a blast?
Tony: You think it’s
funny that when we sent out that blast, Twitter didn’t cope well, and now the
free conference link is having a problem? I will write it in the forum,
as a blast, as a tweet, and probably on the other sites. We’ll do it over
and over again if we need to, to get to all of the people.
Caller: You said there
might be a delay at Forex.
DC: There might be a slight delay, because the traffic alone will
crush that system. You cannot really deal with that large a spike.
Everyone needs to be calm as this goes through.
Tony: They will get
a 30-minute notification, but it will take longer for them to change all their
rates, and then people will want to cash in their reserves.
Remember a year ago we said something and that shut them down. They say they
are prepared, but we’ll see. Don’t panic; if you can’t get
through, the other people around you can’t get through either.
636 caller: I put all
my faith in you and DC, but I do have a question. With the enthusiasm and
confidence with which you have told us are this close, and all about the Iraqi
government and Maliki, and then I hear everything on the television telling us
Iraq is burning down, etc. Who is BSing whom here?
DC: Bottom line is…
there are bad things going on in Iraq right now, and there are many different
causes, although there are two main issues. There are issues and we are dealing with them.
We are
talking to folks throughout Iraq, even Mosul, and we are getting a
significantly different take on it from our various sources through the
country, doing different things. We
have about 18 people throughout Iraq, and we get a very different perspective
on what’s going on. Also, I’ve seen many pieces of footage before, so
there is a lot of misreporting, and/or sensationalism. They have 24 hours to fill up, so they take something is bad,
and shine a magnifying glass on something that is not that significant.
Tony: Look at cause and
effect; what could we have done to make this different? What
is really going on here, and what are they trying to achieve? Our people
on the ground are saying these are old clips, but there is a purpose behind
it. All of this could be gone in two minutes or 24 hours.
Some things didn’t get done in 2011 and they are now being done. Both sides
are being blames for some things they should have done and didn’t do.
Malawi could have been in charge of Iraq, but Maliki is in charge of Iraq. We
put him in there and there are agreements. There are
other decisions to be made here, and we are caught up in it.
Caller: The President
said yesterday that they basically want to sit back and let Iraq sort it out…
DC: I’m going to answer indirectly. Maliki has been around
for a long time. He was a Shia who was tortured, his brother was killed
and many of his family were tortured and killed by the Ba’ath party.
Is he going to sit in a room with them and negotiate? Probably not.
There are three main sects that have never worked together before. M
is in charge of this stuff, and we agreed to support him but only if he is more
inclusive about sharing his power. He agreed but somehow he never
fulfilled his part of the deal. It is as if the Democrats think all
Republicans are morons and they tortured their families, and so on; you
wont’ want to talk to them. Something similar happens on the Republican
side. So the major thing has been to get the three main groups to talk
and work together. That’s what the US is encouraging. There are
still those crazy ISIS guys around terrorizing the country, mainly because they
believe they have been persecuted and blocked from being in the government. The
US is encouraging everyone to talk with each other. Yes, there are
sectarian issues; they are incredibly tribal AND religious compared to US
folks, so it’s incredibly important to include the elders and religious leaders
in this process. Yes, there are still some guys who need to be policed
up, and the US is helping.
Caller: You are
sufficiently confident that the government is seated and all that is left is
for M to do what he said he would do on Friday?
Tony: We get our information days before other groups, and
definitely ahead of the newspapers or television news. Our calls are
based on what we heard an hour ago, and it’s definitely better than what you’ll
see on CNN.
Caller: One oil guy
says that his oil production is fine over there, working away…
Tony: Exactly.
Hey, maybe CNN will give us a job! We can tell them what’s really going
on!
206 caller: You’re a
business man. We have the Obama tax package coming out on 1. July, so why
would this come out before the 1st? The CBI also starts their new books
on 1. July
Tony: This is about Iraq and Maliki staying prime minister;
it’s about promises being made, and people being hungry in the streets. It’s not about the books and US laws. We
are now at 57 times of ‘let’s do this’; that’s more important than 1 July
and doing the quarterly books! The CBI
wants to get this done!
352 caller: If Maliki
has made the promise that he can get the RV started and everything is signed,
sealed and delivered, what could stop it at this point? If he wants to
keep his job…
Tony: Don’t ask that
question, because everyone will get over what happened last night. Let’s
hope they don’t do that again.
DC: There are many things people can try, but what are they
gaining by delaying a few hours or a day? Just take the win.
Caller: Did you see the
program on the FBI and the IRS commissioner? They asked how come the hard
drives were not actually destroyed when it comes to our records, but were
completely lost when it comes to the IRS people being investigated?
How many records have been lost? [didn’t follow this] I
thought it was funny that they don’t lose our records, but they do lose their
own! Does President Obama have any way to stop Maliki from doing this?
DC: President Obama
is the president and he can do whatever he wants. However, he has made it clear that he wants more inclusive
government in Iraq, but it’s a sovereign country and he cannot put too much pressure
on them. We wouldn’t want Mexico telling us what to do. Obama
personally wants that and so do his advisors. That’s where he is putting on the
pressure.
425: I wanted to know about
the difference between that news is saying and what you are seeing.
[appreciation]
602 caller:
[appreciation] I look forward to Las Vegas!
425 caller: Washington
is on the board today! Have a wonderful weekend and I hope we are all
blessed here today. Take care!
650 caller: We are just
waiting on an announcement; do you anticipate the procedures to be as you
discussed last week? Do you expect to have a call at this point?
DC: I have gotten
more conflicting information. We would
like to help with the process, but if someone else is doing it, we don’t have
pride of ownership there, so long as they do a good job. On the other side, we are told we have to sign NDAs right away and
never talk again.
Caller; Let’s say the
RV happens in Iraq and other countries but not US; can you tell us that?
Tony: If we are not under NDAs at that time, yes, we will announce
it. If it does happen and M has already made it public on their
television and news… we are just waiting for the activation. All the
other countries have accepted it at that point, and if we can still talk, of
course we will tell you. I want you to be excited, and we are, too.
We don’t want to wait ten days for the 1st, but it would calm things down to
know that, for some people. For others, it will add to the stress and
they might tell everyone they are going to be rich before the NDAs kick in.
Caller: Will we see
this on the CBI site?
DC: That will be the last procedure.
Caller: How do you see
this relating to the GCR?
DC: It will happen at the same time. They could let it out
in Iraq first, but delaying the GCR would cause a lot of problems and be very
reckless.
301 caller: You say the
government has been seated; does that mean the ministers have been
named?
DC: No, it means that they have all
been sworn in, but the ministers have not been made public yet, and some are
jockeying for position as we speak.
Caller: will this
delay the RV?
DC:
No.
Caller: Do the owners of the Fed also own part of the CBI?
Tony: Probably. You
can look that up on Google. This is what we have been hearing for years, that
the owners of the banks are delaying this. The guys own parts of ALL the
CBIs, so they are making money either way, and afterwards they will make even
more money, so why would they hold it up.
DC: The CBI is run by a fairly independent guy, even though
he was appointed by Maliki. The CBI really wants to get this done.
They have some part of their
reserves in gold, about 100 billion, and that is an enormous
amount of reserves. They mainly got that by selling currency into
this system, and the genius of this system is that speculators helped fund
this. Those reserves are mainly from selling currency that eventually
gets sold to us. Those speculating here have helped the CBI create its reserve
values. That’s the genius.
Caller: My wife looked
at the picture of you in the forum; could you please put some clothes
on? The women are all looking at your package, and such.
DC: Pam and my lovely
assistant put that up; I wish I looked like that! The only thing we
have in common is the glasses. They’re having fun with it!
Tony: You’re just
breaking up homes left and right, aren’t you, DC?
785 caller: I missed
most of the call, so if you could recap..?
DC: The rollercoaster is over, Iraq is a sovereign country, the
CBI has done all the paperwork, and they can initiate the RV when they see
fit. We hope it happens today.
281 caller:
[Appreciation] I hope this happens by the weekend.
Tony: I’m hoping it happens by tonight.
If we have to wait until tomorrow, that’s okay, but Friday night party is
better than Saturday morning party!
407 caller: I’m so
excited I can’t stand myself! [very bad line] I heard you
referring to the 25K note. If there is a husband and wife involved, can
each spouse cash in a 25K dinar note?
Tony: We heard that you
can take one note in, not limited to husband and wife. You can go to one bank
and he can go to another bank, or go to where you have separate bank
accounts. When we get the instructions, that’s when we can give a
definitive answer.
Caller: When you get
the word, can we expect to get on the line with you within an hour?
DC: We have been
told many, many times that we will be among the gurus chosen to explain the
banking procedures. We would be contacted, and talk to you as soon as
possible, then give daily updates to explain issues and help you with your
decisions. As of this week, another group (the left
hand, as it were) says that we are not talking to anybody; we’ll be under
the NDA and we’re not giving information out to anyone. This is
not the best direction, because we are here to help you guys keep it
smooth. They think you can figure it out for yourself, but that is how
the craziness and busses will occur. It is a scary situation,
and people need to understand it. Also, because if you know the issues and
decisions, you will have a shorter appointment.
Tony: If I’m not
under and NDA, and I find out from any of our sources elsewhere, then I will
absolutely tweet it, post it, and so on. If I’m not under an NDA, I will
give you as much info as I possibly can. If we are under an NDA, either we
cannot talk or we will have all this training that will take time. This is such
a bad idea, because people are already asking me what to do! If we
don’t’ have direction, I’ll do what I always said I would do.
Caller: Are the four
currencies we’ve been discussing all part of the first basket? Will any
of them float?
Tony: All are in the first basket, so far as we know.
I’m not saying
anything about floating rates. If it doesn’t go on Forex, it doesn’t have a way
to float. When it does, that’s when you want to pay
attention. Everybody
is not going to get the high rate; as time goes by, the rates will
change.
Caller: Would you call
the rates right now ‘eye candy’?
Tony: I gamble, I lose
and I come back; in my estimation, without advising you guys, it could be
greater later, or it could change to the negative. We don’t know. Maliki told all his people that the RV is this Friday, today,
and he told his people the rate.
Caller: So this should
be Christmas and Black Friday all rolled together!
678 caller: When the RV
is over and everyone has their money… China is famous for lowering the value of
their currency; will that be gone now? Will everyone be valued at
their actual rate rather than what they declare?
Tony: This is a
reset, not a correction.
Caller: Isn’t it the new deal
that currency will now be based on a country’s actual assets? If a
country has a lot of value, can that country arbitrarily lower the value of
their currency?
Tony: Under Basel III, it’s supposed to be connected to the world,
and change on the basis of changes in your country, not just because they want to. I don’t know
about China, though.
DC: The Global
Currency Reset means that, say, five currencies are going from near worthless
to much more money. Everyone has a bunch of these currencies, and those
countries will end up with assets. Because the value is across the world – hence GLOBAL currency reset – then
the amount of your dinar, dong, etc., will have established values. Then
the market will indicate any changes. The GCR is
an attempt by extremely bright economists who say that because they are adding
extreme value on this side, they have to make adjustments on the other
side. However,
those adjustments will be gradual, and there will also be some monetary
policies involved. Some boats get raised a lot, and some just a little
bit.
Caller: I just saw
China dropped in value to encourage exports, and that stinks if you have their
currency.
DC: A lot of people argue that politicians have been on a global
devalue race for some time… and an easy, gradual devalue is better for
everyone.
Caller: They say this will be
a more fair, transparent system. When everything settles, if the dong is
worth two dollars, and then China drops it by 50 cents, that is not cool.
Surely they should have to justify that.
DC: Warren Buffett has consistently been against the devaluation
of the dollar to strengthen exports. We have always devalued our currency
for many reasons. However, that’s life and you have to make your own
adjustments.
Tony: Pam says that
It’s time for us to go.
DC: Things look exceptionally well. We
want to thank the person who we cannot name, the senior statesman who held this
all together for us. We also thanks all the unsung
heroes in the UST, the CBI and those behind the scenes. Everyone wins in this game, we’ll get over any resentments
and we will all move down the road together. It’s been phenomenal to be
part of this largest financial deal ever, so let’s take the win.
Tony: If this is the
last call of this nature, this is to all the 27 countries on this call.
It’s been four long years, and I appreciate you guys
being here. Hopefully we
have been able to help every person, every country, and every intel agency –
I hope you give you enough for your morning briefings! Thank
you to our benefactor – thanks for helping us and going through this.
Even if we never meet face to face, the whole team
wants to thank you. Thanks also to the DC crowd who gave us information and
support, and also the foreign governments who helped us with information. It
takes a village…
Thanks also to the intel
team, and everyone on the forum and the calls. We don’t matter, but people do
listen to us and make decisions based on the information we give you. You
do matter! After it’s over, you’re going to matter even more, because
you will be the new millionaires. You will
be able to influence your town, county and state, and also create business
opportunities and also donating to charities you support. You
will be jumpstarting the economy through your choices. Others will
succeed through your success.
I don’t know how long we
will be here, or if we will be allowed to run the tntsuperfantastic sites to
talk about making money afterwards. I will be
here to help as long as we can.
I hope we will do a
call later today, this evening, or tomorrow morning. When we get the word, you get the word. Pam
would tell you to be kind to the mods and to each other. Be smart
with your money; people are trying to take your money now, even before
you get it, and they will double their efforts afterwards. Ray would say
Good-bye. We’ll get back to you as soon as we
can.
