- I do NOT entertain Communists nor do I support the Communist organizations such as the UN. I do NOT offer validity for Turner because he works for our enemies. Therefore, no debate, no contact, and I hope he does not come into range...he will be shot on sight by me. The organization is a TRAP offered to get as many patriots as possible to identify themselves. Further, everything offered is not quite complete, thus ALL of the participants have given witness of TREASON and SEDITION by their paperwork. Our Military will have nothing to do with Turner as he intends to offer up our country to the United Nations. Because Turner never accomplishes what he says he will, most of the people who were involved are leaving...tired of excuses. Our group accomplished the whole thing, a majority of states, notification process, and are now moving into the second mission of localization... Too bad there are still cool-aid drinkers like yourself who can't see reality. >Restructuring our government and cleaning up the mess is going to be a very large job. I have been asked by one of the principles to request ALL CPA's to help us in this, they will be called when needed. >There are several directions that can be taken is the new structure. Our basic 'rights' are to be protected, thus freedom of religion is basic. We The People must decide to allow all forms of belief systems that are not adverse to our way of life and freedom...no control is allowed, as God says, believe or not as you so chose. This IS FREEDOM. >No one may 'assume' any office nor offer a new government that is NOT open to voting approval of We The People. There will be a few 'appointed' office holders. These will be 'temporary' and are designed to keep the government from crashing and causing chaos were it to do so. >The finance system is to be zeroed out, or crashed. This causes those using financial power to lose all power and will flush out many unknowns who are involved. The 'financial system' will be revalued by world accounts and private accounts. >All this is stipulated in the basic plan I have been offering.This is only the second reply to any Turnerite or Turner group. It is my last one.
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It's sorry to see someone who seems to have his heart in the right place to help our country, make so many false claims against the Republic. I personally know for a fact that most of his claims are blatantly false. I also know that Teri Hinkle has a personal vendetta against Tim Turner. You know if one makes great claims then one has to provide great proof. Someones claim is not a proof.
If anyone cares to know, the Republic for the united States of America http://www.republicfortheunitedstates.org/ was setup as an interim (placeholder) government with full elections to happen once over 50% of the people are in the Republic (or when the de facto fraudulent current government fails). Has anyone thought about how we put a government together again after it fails (de facto)?
As Thomas Jefferson said "When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles;every other correction is either useless or a new evil."
Let's say, it fails, now what? Many of our laws are not constitutional? How many people in our country do you think realize that? How many generations of people do you think have been brainwashed in to the de facto thinking? Do we just hold new elections and everything will be Honky Dorry?
What you need is a shell or interim government that has been properly constitutionally setup without all the corrupt elements (laws, people, etc). Then when the de facto fails, there is a structure in place to rebuild upon and once the fraudulent government after some training of how things are supposed to be in a true republic, you then hold real elections for the true government and the era of the interim government is over. This is exactly the purpose of the Republic.
Have you ever been in a place where you hear gossiping or people talking about things that you personally know are false? You just chuckle to yourself at the fools who simply are so ignorant.
The attacks on the Republic continue to be simply gossip with no basis. They also seem to get stronger as we get closer to the time when the de facto will fail. I learned in my life that if what you are doing is the right thing, that you will start to get attacks, and the closer you get, the stronger the attacks become because those who don't want you to succeed are trying to sabotage you. Now what powers in our world wouldn't want us to succeed? Could it be the corrupt government? Could the attackers be either willing or unwilling agents of that de facto corrupt government?
Many people realize that most of the corruption comes from evil forces that control the banking systems of the world. People who are not religious may not realize that evil/devil/Satan does in fact exist. One of his big missions to make sure that people don't believe that he exists so he can use them for his own. He also likes to cause trouble and cause dissension with gossip and unsubstantiated attacks on people among many other things. He also loves to deceive (some call him the great deceiver). He thinks it just great when people attack each other by taking statements out of context and twisting words.
I think most people wouldn't want to be taken in or be deceived by these attacks and gossip with no substantian and proof. I don't know about you, but I always check the facts and ask for proof from people who makes great claims, including from the Republic. I'm not one to be deceived.
Satan also in situations like this, loves to confuse people even more by trying to turn the issue around and claiming that the ones who have been attacked have to provide proof that the false claims are not true. This is a great deceit. The burden of proof is always on the one making the claim (this is common law)
I wonder why Drake et al, won't bring up proofs of his claims against the Republic in an open forum? Could it be that there are no facts to back his great claims?
Screw "President Turner" right in his ear. From the moment I heard about RAP/RUSA and Turner, my BS meter went off the charts. What a total disinfo and fishing expedition he is conducting...I feel sorry for all well-meaning Patriots who have swallowed his seed.
very well put!!! Thank you.
Wow...now we have a guy that comes out of nowhere and spouts off about all these great things that are going to happen (arrests, new banking system, new government and a return to constitutional law). Like any one of us couldn't have said these things, they are all over the internet. Then says the republic is treason and Turner is a fraud. First starts off with all this hype, then bashes the republic, then takes it to a level that no one else has taken it. Now this guy publicall claims he will put a bullet in his head? And this is who you people who call yourselves Christians and patriots want to support. You want the constitution restored and common law? Where is Turner's trial? Where is the evidence Drake? The evidence that would allow you to have already convicted a man without trial. Drake the one who refuses to address Turner on a public forum or bring any proof, yet claims he promotes constitutional law? I am leary of a man who will make such a public claim.
@ AnonymousApr 22, 2012 07:29 PM
who is President of RAP now? Turner's term was only for 6 months, so please let me know who his successor is?
I've heard that Turner has made threats to people to get them to knuckle under to his will, hell you can go watch his videos where he talks about shooting people. And he calls himself a christian to boot.
Good One!!!
Tim Turner threatned Mr. Obama last YEAR!! IT WAS ON THE RACHEL MADDOWS SHOW! HE WAS GONNA BLW UP A POLICE FUNERAL!! HE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM EARTH!
I would like to see either one of these "men" put their money where their mouth is.....
I have seen nothing happen at all... Until then why doesn't everyone stop arguing...
All you got do is dig up some old TIM turner seminars, and listen to him talk.He sounds like one full of himself hypocritical redneck.I never liked him after listening to a couple hours of one of his seminars,and sure would not pay money to hear them.Have been around a lot of preachers in the south who sound and act just like him,they're all about building their own kingdom,full of themselves,and care not one iota about the truth.
I agree whole heartedly. I heard about "President" Turner years ago and something didn't seem right about him and I think even less of the man now after hearing so many speak out about him. I hahve a friend that is involved in the whole group and he has been in nothing but legal trouble due to it. Who elected "President" Turner? I sure didn't!
Are we talking about Tim Turner or the Republic? For your information, Tim Turner happens to be the president of the Republic for the united States of America that has re-inhabited (reoccupied) the seats left vacant in the 1860's- 1870's, when the then de-fure government abandoned their de-jure seats. Until those seats were re-occupied by the Republic (an interim government), the so called de facto government (acting as it was the government) was allowed to operate due to all of our naivety. The Republic that I know has it's legislation done by Congress elected by members (we the people who have chosen to join the republic) (with a lot of debates and points of views). Both of the other branches (Executive and Judicial) operate with limited delegate authority as defined by the US Constitution and legislated by the Congress. The states meanwhile have also create provisional or interim governments. Because there isn't yet the full backing of more than 50% of we the people, the republic is provisional or interim and limited by what it can do. It has basically created the core framework that is ready should the de facto fall apart. So you can see that we the people through the Congress have all the power in the Republic.
Perhaps you are all confused and are still thinking like people brainwashed by the de facto government. I see, because you see the de facto president (obummer) being the king of the de facto, you automatically assume the president of the republic is also the king. Perhaps you need to study our US Constitution and see how it all operates. The US Constitution is what controls the government. The government can't expand beyond what the US Constitution limits it too. The republic operates with the constitution as the supreme law of the land. I've personally studied it pretty carefully and I don't see where the president is the king and has power everything, quite the contrary, the people are in charge. I don't know but as hard as I look, I don't see where in the constitution it says that we are under the UN so why would the Republic want to be under the UN? It simply doesn't make sense.
Some people choose to be knowledgeable about things and speak the truth, others choose to be ignorant (as is very obvious by their posts) and just the like the drama of it all and look to throw things at the wall and see if something sticks. These are the same people who only know how to complain/blame etc and expect everyone else to do the work while they sit idly being the armchair quarterback. These are the 'downers' or the negative people in society who drag everybody down in their own mud. I'm responding here solely for the benefit of 'positive' people how might have been confused by the naysayers. I've learned in life, that the complainers/downers/naysayers/blamers are stuck in their own crap and it seems to be their mission in life to drag everybody into it.
Thanks, but no thanks. I choose to work with the positive people who want to contribute and be part of the change and make it happen.
you drank too much kool aid..... You are spitting soo much bs the cows are leaving the room
Sounds a whole lot better than what Drake, Hinkle and Co., has in store for the country! I agree with Anon 3:03.
Tim Turner's "club" is nothing more than that. They cannot "insert" another government in place of the one that's there. It's called treason for those that don't know that. DUH. Anyone that thinks what Drake claims has been done is NOT the way to go is dumb as a rock and needs to dig their head out of their ass and/or the sand. You can't force millions of people to like what you're doing or go along with it just because you "signed up" for it and voted for an interim president, congress, etc. Those of you in that club are just not using common sense, period. It won't fly. The states removing themselves from the corporation (UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INC.) is the way to go. And if that's been done, then there's nothing more to argue about. We're out from under their thumb and that's the end of that. :) I'm praying this is true and that the arrests begin ASAP and that there's proof of it.
Well it's obvious to me from reading the constitution, that states cannot "leave' the united states with out it being treason.
The Republic hasn't inserted itself in place of another. The so called government in place has left it's dejure position. The positions are vacant. There are some supreme court rulings that explicitly state that a de facto government is allowed to 'act' as the government as long as the de jure positions remain vacated (they were abandoned/vacated slowly over the period of the 1860's). The Republic as an interim government has lawfuly taken back those vacated seats. Per supreme court ruling, therefore the defacto government is no longer the lawful government.
States can not remove themselves or be removed from the union, period.
Clearly some need to read the Declaration of Independence, "Any form of Government becomes destuctive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government, ...
OMG, What does it take to help you RUSA followers understand. Go to the freedomreigns.us website, and listen to the April 15 call, READ the PROOF, the documentation, and use your flippen minds. Turner is lying to you. I heard the roundtable calls recently. I know MOST of the internal workings of that whole group. He is lying to you!!! You are running around in circles playing his con game doing what you believe is the real deal, but the real pieces of the puzzle were deliberately left out, and you have been set up for a real fall.
You are slandering Teri without doing homework. You are cowards! You think you are doing the right thing and you're not. I did the same thing, AND there was always a check in my spirit. I ignorantly parroted the leaders of that group EXACTLY as you are saying. Everthing! Everything all of you have stated above!
I hated Teri, insisted she had a vendetta, (a lie), but since realized how ignorant I was by not doing the homework myself.
To her, my apology!
I met Turner, over a year ago, have pictures, spent the time with him and I swear to the Holy One who knows my heart, that my FIRST impression of TT and those surrounding him gave me such a grotesque and indescribable feeling of uneasiness, corruption and deception. It was blatantly obvious to me. The TT looked, acted, and operated like a common criminal, con man, mafia type thug or phony preacher who was using God against all who were and are sheeple. Hence, from that point on, I was unable in good conscience operate in the appointed position I was in. I left obviously, and I was lied about, slandered, and the usual MO that those who surround TT use, was clearly used against me.
You, above, who are accusing others of not using their heads and acting like Defacto dummed down folks are doing exactly that. You in fact are IGNORANT as you have chosen to call others. WAKE UP! Do the homework.
As for Drake... I don't know. Time will tell. I just know that TT is a current employed FEMA operative. He has shown his credentials, and his true agenda. It ain't good!
From where I sit, the above people bashing the freedom reigns movement are disinformation shills. One of the alphabet agencies just hired a few thousand agents for exactly what they're doing!
I think freedom reigns is getting too close and the group has definitely hit a raw nerve...why else would there be so much diatribe against freedom reigns and Drake in particular?
This outsiders perspective is this: Do I believe we have a de facto gov't? Yes. Do I believe what the Republic has claimed to do, can be done? Yes. Do I believe they have done it? Still researching! Do I believe that in this day and age, with the degree of ignorance that exists in this country about itself, that the people are capable of supporting a de jure gov't should one exist? Doubtful. Do I believe, from what I've seen, that the infighting among supposed patriots is as vindictive and vengeful as a spurned jr. high schooler? ABSOLULTELY! Do I hear more finger pointing and blame game in this circle, than I do the Republics? ABLOLUTELY (like ex Catholics, some of the angriest people in the world). Has it occurred to me that I may be mistaking anger for true patriotism, passion, and genuine worry for their fellow countrymen? Without a doubt. Which group have I gotten more education from? The Republic. Which group has shown more evidence and proof of progress in the claims of future events? This one. If the gov't wanted to TRAP patriots, could they do it with EITHER one of these groups? ABSOLUTELY! Do I see more faces from the Republic than I do this group? Yes. Does the Republic appear more structured and focused? Yes. Does Drake appear more credible than Turner? Yes. Is Turner out there showing himself? Yes. Is Drake? No. Is Turner revealing sources and proving communications? No. Is Drake? Yes. Are BOTH of them connected to, and have sources in, the de facto gov't? Yes. Do BOTH make many of the same claims? Yes. Do I believe we, as a country, are headed for the hurt locker? ABSOLUTELY! Do I believe we are ready for it? ABSOLUTELY NOT! Am I learned enough at this point to offer up any alternatives or concrete solutions? No. Am I comfortable enough to hang my hat with either one of these groups yet? No. Could both groups be ruses to identify, effect, and render paralyzed, those that follow for lack of preparation and constitution? Yes. And the BIG question...are we, as individuals, vigilant, virtuous and valiant enough to endure, organize, and secure our families welfare enough to secure that of the country in the days and months to come? How does it go? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone? A leader would tell you not to dwell on the faults of the competition, just WIN THE GAME!
An election is coming up
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