I prepared these notes on Dec. 1,
2012 showing the historical documents that show that Jesus Christ would
apparently be born Dec. 25 according to the first Church Fathers of
Christianity after Christ and the Apostles. By the way, they did not call
themselves Church Fathers, but later historians gave them this label to denote
that they were the recognized prestigious leaders of first Christianity and
judged by the Christians then to be the successors to the Apostles of Jesus
Christ. For example, St. Polycarp who left us writings was personally ordained
by the Apostle of Jesus Christ St. John the Divine who wrote the Book of
Revelation around 90 A.D. Also, Bishop Polycarp had met several of the Apostles
of Jesus Christ while they were still alive and a number of the 500 witnesses
who saw Jesus after His crucifixation and then resurrection from the grave and
then ascension into heaven to sit at the right hand of God the Father. Bishop
Polycarp was probably the most prestigious bishop in the Roman Empire because
he was the last person alive who had talked to some of the Apostles
of Jesus Christ and to some of the 500 witnesses who saw Jesus
alive after being crucified. The legal ward that Bishop
Polycarp raised was the youth Irenaeus later Bishop and then
Irenaeus trained Bishop Hippolytus who wrote the
Threatise on Christ And Antichrist a little after 200 A.D. This was an unbroken
chain of Apostolic teachers from St. John the Divine to Bishop Hippolytus who
then explained that part of Matthew 24 is a deliberate play
upon words so the heretics and enemies of Christianity will not understand what
Matthew 24 is really predicting there. The eagle Christians go to where the
"fall" occurred which is where Adam fell in the Garden of Eden. Some
Bible scholars seem confused today and do not know that first Christianity
explained that Paradise was the word given in the Bible for the Garden of Eden
where Adam and Eve were expelled from. Bishop Hippolytus is teaching what the
Apostle St. John the Divine taught about Matthew 24, Revelation, etc. in
Bible prophecy in the New Testament. I certainly trust what Bishop Hippolytus
would say about Bible prophecy more than critics of his in our century
who despise the Christian writings left to us by the first successors to the
Apostles of Jesus Christ.
I was going to fix this report on
last Sunday on Dec. 25 as the apparent historical date for the birth of
Jesus Christ according to the first writings of Christianity left us by the
trained successors to the Apostles of Jesus Christ. My computer which works
fine refused to run on Sunday. I had a friend with me. His computer would not
work on Sunday. We were shut down so I could not start this report on Sunday
and he could not do his planned research work on Sunday. We come to Monday. I
start the report on Dec. 25 and another friend of mine is running their
computer at the same time doing some separate research work on the internet. An
accident occurs and some of my notes for this Dec. 25 report are scrambled.
Time is running out and determined to get this report out on Monday, a minor
accident occurs. I pick up the wrong note and where early Christianity dates
the Feast of the Annunciation as being 9 months before the birth of Christ,
with mixed notes and time running out, I accidentially post 6 months here
instead of the 9 months listed in my note on this. Would-be critics in great
joy leap at this typo error and do their best to point out that the math
does not match the months implied by the Feast of the Annunciation. I also
corrected a couple of other typo errors with this report and with corrections
am sending it out all over America. Also, rushed I forgot to mention to check
the search box at Nesara News for over 100 other plus national reports I have
posted previously to Nesara News. And tell the people to use my pen name of
Erasmus of America to read the reports listed in the search box.
My would-be critics came out with
the same math as the early Christian writers! Thanks for agreeing with the
math conclusions of the early Christian writers! Nothing like would-be critics
proving my math position is correct as the typo error that shook them most was
not the same figure of months as on my research note.
Now for the punch line. They will
savagely attack on one point they think I am very vulnerable on and yet do not
admit the many other points I nail down such as Christians practiced
Sunday as their main worship day long before Constantine the Great. I use the
historical records of first Christianity. And first Christianity used Bible
references far more in detail than my critics so they ignore the historical
documents left us by first Christianity and ignore the Bible positions of the
first "Church Fathers" recognized by all of Christianity then as the
lawful successors of the Apostles who lived just shortly before
them.
My position on Dec. 25
appears correct according to the first historical records of Christianity and
also according to a number of items in the New Testament and also the Old
Testament. But that would take a book to use all the references I could to show
why I judge my position correct according to the Bible. So like Martin Luther I
now state, "Here I stand! I cannot! I will not recant!" When truth is
involved folks, I will stand my ground as emotions do not change my position,
only sound facts and sound logic which I have not seen from the other side over
this Dec. 25 issue!
Yours for God and Country, Erasmus
of America (pen name. Think Holy Ghost wanted accident of Monday in order to
show some will never be won over by historical documents or passages in the
Bible they don't like which undermine their position they assume they are
infallible on. "Pride comes before a fall!" can apply to them if they
are wrong in this issue!)
5 comments:
Writing that are 200 years beyond the date are questionable at best. Contemporary writers, such as Flavius Josephus, are more credible.
Here are the sound facts and sound logic you requested:
Jesus was born when the shepherds were tending their flocks by night (Luke 2:8). The only nights during the year when shepherds stayed overnight with their flocks were those when the sheep were lambing. This was to protect the newborn lambs from predators. This occurs in the Spring, late March into early April. In fact, when would the Lamb of God be born? During lambing time. Following up, when was the Lamb of God slain? When Paschal Lambs were being killed for the Passover. When was Jesus crucified? At Passover. See the correlation? It is not by accident.
Ergo, Jesus was born at lambing time, late March or early April.
The Romans adopted December 25th because it was the winter solstice, one of their pagan holy days. It had nothing to do with when Jesus was born. Modern calendars are dated from 1 AD due to an error in calculations. It was more likely 6 BC to 4 BC, but certainly not after 4 BC, when the sons of Herod the Great took leadership of the tetrarchy under the authority of Rome. Herod was alive after Jesus was born, as much as two years, based on the age of the children he ordered to be slain. Thus, 6 BC to 4 BC is the likely birth year of Jesus.
As to Matthew 24, Jesus was prophesying about the 70 AD fall of Jerusalem and the fact that Jews would gather to it before hand: where the carcass is the eagles will gather. It unfolded as He said it would.
Well 7 million Jehovah's Witnesses think you are wrong.
Come on, Erasmus! You have done well until now. Were the "church fathers" then any better than the church "fathers" today? Were they any less inclined to fudge a bit, propagandize, or twist the facts either deliberately or accidentally to further their cause? I don't think so...so our only source should be HIS WORD.
Have you researched "The Two Babylons or Papal Worship" by Alexander Hislop? Hislop claims that the Papal worship is nothing more than the old Babylonian mystery religion which was the worship of Nimrod (aka Osiris, Saturn and countless other noms de plume depending on location) and his wife, and that most of the so-called Christian holidays are extensions of the Babylonian religion: Easter, (Ishtar, goddess of spring and fertility) Christmas, (the Roman holiday Saturnalia and Yule, as in Yuletide, is the Chaldean word for child). These pagan traditions have been passed on for hundreds of years without question.
Yes, many Christians observe Sunday as their holy day, yet there is no authority given to anyone anywhere in the Bible to change a day that was sanctified and made holy as a lasting covenant forever by HIM. Can you show us where it was authorized by HIM in His Word? Why would Christ in Matthew say for Christians to pray that their flight would not be on the Sabbath in the end time if the Sabbath was changed and Sabbath keeping was not important in the latter days?
Of course "Christians" kept Sunday before Constantine. Constantine merely capped a process of apostasy, that had been ongoing for some time within Christianity, with his law-making.
The fourth Commandment was written by God's own finger. It's authority is based upon the facts of Creation. It's part of the Moral Code for all humanity--not just the Hebrew family. Morality does not change; it is based on God's character and love, and He assures us He does not change--ever.
Jesus' death on the cross confirms the fact that the definition of right-and-wrong cannot be changed. Ever. Not even to spare the life of the Son of God if He agrees to take sin upon Himself for our sakes.
The seventh-day is the only Divinely ordained day of worship, with the authority of God's approval behind it. Anything else is produced by lack of knowledge, distaste for knowledge, and/or a desire to "replace" God Himself.
Anti-Christ wishes to put "himself" in the place of God. Makes you wonder where the idea of Sunday as a "holy" day came from...
Check it out. It's documented.
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