MARKZ TWEET & EXPLANATION, 24 JUNE
I4U:
MarkZ Tweet: @originalmarkz: Lots of political
pressure on settling naked shorts. Things are heating up for our politicians!!
Now THEY are responsible for their actions.
Chucker7: Definition of 'Naked Shorting' The
illegal practice of short selling shares that have not been affirmatively
determined to exist. Ordinarily, traders must borrow a stock, or determine that
it can be borrowed, before they sell it short. But due to various loopholes in
the rules and discrepancies between paper and electronic trading systems, naked
shorting continues to happen.
While no exact system of measurement exists, most point to
the level of trades that fail to deliver from the seller to the buyer within
the mandatory three-day stock settlement period as evidence of naked shorting.
Naked shorts may represent a major portion of these failed trades. LINK
spirit156] Hi Is MarkZ referring to currency trading or some
other stocks? I read the link.
[BigDog-OH] spirit156 Applicable to any asset
[spirit156] BigDog-OH So if the pressure is one
"settling" naked shorts, then it means the "debt" is being
called due. And if it is currency, then it must refer to their early trading??
[BigDog-OH] spirit156 I think you are close. The term is used
when the seller really does not have the asset that they expect to lose value,
borrows it from someone that will lend it to them, they sell it to another
investor that does not know that it is shorted and then the seller expects to
buy it back from the purchaser at a lower rate so that they can return the
asset back to the original holder
[mellon] Naked Short is when you sell a stock or
comodity you don't own or have the stock to deliver hoping it goes down and
then you buy it to deliver at a lower price
[mellon] making the spread
[mellon] BigDog-OH naked means they don't even borrow
before they sell
[mellon] highly illegal but still goes on all the time
[BigDog-OH] mellon Right... the "Naked
shorter" is getting the asset from someone who owns it and is betting on
it to reduce in value
[mellon] BigDog-OH from what I understand that is why
it is called naked. They don't borrow but sell with out a cover such as the
borrowed stock
[spirit156] BigDog-Oh Can we relate it to currency more
specifcally and does it refer to the early exchanges that were going on in
December and January?
[BigDog-OH] mellon Right
[mellon] process kills small companies. lots of
shorting crushes stocks and scares out small investors so there is no support
and price drops fast then shorters buy cheap to cover
[BigDog-OH] spirit156 Could happen with currency but I don't
think it has much to do with the unconfirmed early exchanges you referenced
[mellon] I wonder if MarkZ is refering to early sales at
high prices politicians supposedly did. But they could easily cover by going to
dealer.
[mellon] confused as to where the short comes in. Weren't we
told they were sent to dealers to buy for their exchanges?
[BigDog-OH] mellon I find it hard to believe that he is
referencing it in regard to Dinar exchanges
[mellon] BigDog-OH Well if it has to do with the market,
they are screwed since the market is up
[BigDog-OH] mellon the 1166 value really hasn't changed so I
would think it would be hard to short the currency
[BigDog-OH] mellon True, but there was a killing made when
the market plunged
[mellon] BigDog-OH I saw that Soros was shorting
S&P
[mellon] BigDog-OH but if they didn't cover they are stuck
[BigDog-OH] mellon Yeah I saw that too. He is the master of
shorting the market
[Grandpa10] BigDog-OH I agree with you, I believe MarkZ is
refrencing dealings that have been going on with our represetatives and thier
illegal actions, not dinar related
[BigDog-OH] mellon Yep
[mellon] from wiki: Naked short selling, or naked shorting,
is the practice of short-selling a tradable asset of any kind without first
borrowing the security or ensuring that the security can be borrowed, as is
conventionally done in a short sale. When the seller does not obtain the shares
within the required time
[Mark mc] I hope MarkZ saying there under pressure because
the Dinar is moving up in value and will expose those that have been shorting
the market. Soon
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