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TNT CC NOTES, 12 DEC
2-12-14 TNT DINAR CC (Notes by Adept1):
Replay 805.399.1500, PIN CODE 409029#
http://events.instantteleseminar.com/?eventid=63454449
Tony: Are we all ready? DC, where are you registered? IF you want to get me a gift, I’m registered at WF, Chase, BoA or anywhere else you want to deposit! Oh, the recording is on? Oops, I didn’t mean to record that…
Good morning, TNT! Today is Friday, December 12, 2014. Okay, good afternoon, TNT. We are late all because of Pam and DC! DC couldn’t help it, and Pam said, “This is what you’re going to do!” and I said Okay. It’s a great day, and I’m feeling super-fantastic, nothing but good news.
DC: Hope everyone’s doing well! Instead of going east to west, we are doing this differently. The two parties got together to sing Kumbaya, and that has very much continued. Teams from the US and other places are in Iraq coordinating and making sure all pieces are going together. That includes teams from the BIS, IMF, the Fed, Bank of England, China, Swiss, European and other countries to make sure this goes off as smoothly as possible. If they have problems, they can easily fix them. A lot of folks buckled down on Tuesday and have been fixing a few minor technical issues. What could they still have procedural issues over?? The lack of communication has caused a few, and they have been throwing their best people at it, and everything is getting down. There are a few minor legal and technical issues that are all being addressed because the diplomatic corps is there as well. Everyone is doing what they need to do and we’re grateful.
In Iraq, they had their three days break. You have heard of a few riots, and that is putting on pressure to get this done. ISIL is on their heels, and they are in defense mode. We are playing whack-a-mole with them now. For those reading articles, the anti-corruption stuff has had another big score in Iraq.
In terms of US banks, lots of folks are on call, and the technical side have been working with the teams in Iraq, Switzerland, NY, etc., so that when they change something it will go through. That is going quite well, too. On television, the economic reform is proceeding and will end very soon, and another one…
Tony: And will be complete on release of the budget. They are two levels closer to actually doing this, and they are fixing minor things.
DC: Everyone is there so you don’t’ have to wait for anyone.
Tony: We are not going to say how many people were paid out, but they have paid out thousands and now they are finding problems for paying out the masses.
DC: The oil credits have been working well, but the procedures for the masses in Iraq and the US are being worked out. There has been a rate change, but it has not been confirmed.
541 caller: This is my first time calling in, after two years in dinarland, and 22 years in a prosperity program. I have been praying for you everyday. [Appreciation] Last October I had a massive heart attack, and I wondered why I wasn’t taken to the Lord, and one reason was to continue to pray for you guys. “Know the truth and the truth will set you free”; how do you know the people giving you the information are telling you the truth? Also, three weeks ago I had a heart transplant, and I’m feeling much better. [details]
DC: Thanks for your wonderful thoughts.
Tony: Thank you, we can never have too many prayers. Our guy in Canada had a heart attack last week. They put him on the transplant list in Portland, at the same hospital as this caller. Sorry, I forgot to tell you that.
DC: I’m glad you’re doing alright. How do we know they are telling us the truth? We don’t. When we put our pieces of information together, I never take any one person as Gospel. You just can’t. I don’t think they would intentionally lie to me, but often they are give inaccurate information and it depends on how it goes. The situation changes. If folks are so black and white they cannot see beyond the details, they have never been in a fluid, dynamic environment where things change all the time. They give us the most accurate information they have at the time. Some is fed to them, or sometimes they are looking at the screens or have an experience themselves. It all adds up, and sometimes things don’t fit in. We don’t throw those parts out, we put them to one side and ask where they fit in. Also, there are people who are intentionally misled. They are still talking to us, but we can also reverse-engineer that intel to back out more information that might seem irrelevant at that time but makes sense later. Also, we don’t repeat things until we get confirmation of what’s going on. That is how we can tell.
Tony: Even if they are giving is misleading information, it’s still information as we bring in other parts. They only get their piece of information from their higher-ups, and they believe in that one person or agency. We believe in all our sources.
Caller: I have a friend who has recently retired from the Secret Service and I know how corrupt the government is. Warren Buffett said not to vote for any incumbents, because new people will look after the people and create balanced budget.
Tony: They would clean out the old boys network, and they would have to go back to what the government is supposed to be. However, the flip side is that you would lose all your experience, knowledge and influence around the world, which would be a handicap.
786 caller: You and DC have said that thousands have exchanged over the last year, more or less. Where are the banks getting the rate they are exchanging at?
DC: We found they have been doing exchanging from mid-October 2013 onwards. All the way through October 31 of this year, they have paid off forward-based contracts. These are legal, and they would say “We will pay you X.25 because we know it will be worth that, and we’ll take the 25 cents for our part.” Most have limited access until the public revaluation. After Halloween this year, the UST+IMF+BIS+CBI started exchanging people using the real system, where the money gets credited, the dinars get moved around, etc. That is quite recent, and it’s different from the forward-based contracts. The rate comes from the pre-agreed contracts with China and also the average exchange is coming from the CBI at $3.58.
Caller: I talked to my attorney yesterday for the first time about this, and he knows someone in WF, two down from the CEO. He agreed to contract them for exchange.
DC: I bet he didn’t know.
Caller: If he doesn’t know, how and why is this kept so tight?
DC: There are tons of leaks – that’s how we get our information! In terms of getting on the list, we just don’t know the person to start from. We have friends who have exchanged. We understand the banks point of view – they don’t want their entire workforce to walk off the job in the next few days. There are all sorts of legal issues, and the bankers don’t’ want this information to get out. So the ones doing the exchanges have signed horrendous agreements, similar to those in intelligence, because this information is so sensitive. You have to understand the banks perspective, and they are fighting a losing battle… slowly.
Tony: They are leaking information to us to make sure we are treated fairly, not so that we can get paid, personally. They are giving us information about how the process works, the locations, etc., so that you know that this has happened. Otherwise, we are just like the bank execs who cannot tell us enough to exchange. That’s the only reason we know how many are being paid out and where, because we are part of the same time.
Caller: So I am beating a dead horse, here? I might as well back off and let it happen…
Tony: I know several people who have tried to get on the list, and only two were added, and they went through a lot to get there. Others, quite high up, are still not on the list. There were NO payouts yesterday because they thought they would be doing it today!
917 caller: I want another update on the things you update every call. When Iraq releases the rate, will the US go as well? Or not?
DC: Once it is available for the Iraqi citizens, which they are testing now, the rest of the world will turn on. Each country has their own banks and procedures. In the USA, they plan to let this out through each bank individually, each with their own approach. Some don’t want to deal with the masses, some will for the first few days. Each bank has been reviewing its own system. Some banks have call and exchange centers, and some have stood those down because of legal problems.
What will happen is that Tony and other gurus will be notified and direct people to the information sources, with the different 800 numbers. They will tell you what locations to go to. That’s how this information will leak out.
Caller: You said that the US reserved the right to set the timing for this.
DC: We understand that they want the groups and internet groups to go through and the general public will go from there. Some banks are saying that they will slow it down through the Xmas holidays, and others will simply close it down until 2. January.
Tony: If Iraq does it today, does the US have the right to delay it until Monday or later?
DC: Yes, they still have that option, but they will probably let us go on because it’s close to when they wanted to start anyway. We are in the window NOW, or when Iraq starts.
Tony: If you go back to Wednesday and last night, and what was supposed to happen…
DC: They kept running into all these little issues, and they decided to throw all their resources at this and then immediately afterwards they will release this, within minutes, rather than waiting for a specific time.
Tony; So as soon as all the things are fixed, they will do it then, whether it’s at midnight or 6.45am (for example).
DC: So far as we know, they will keep it at a fixed rate until 2. January.
Tony: I think it’s going this weekend.
618 caller: Does the fact that the US Congress refused to ratify the IMF agreement have any effect on the RV?
DC: It did a few years ago, but not for the last 8-9 months. Everyone’s gotten over that.
862 caller: One quick question… my name is Takia. Last night we heard Ms. Pelosi talk about bail-ins. Based on what they did yesterday, would that affect us adversely in any way? Last night, before they actually signed off on the budget, they had a couple of representatives talking about they would not sign, and Pelosi talked about bail-ins.
Tony: First, only the House signed, not the Senate; they extended the term for two days. I hope they are not using that an excuse for this. That is not happening and as soon as the announcement is out, this will go. But yes, they did remove part of Frank-Dodd, the part that said they couldn’t gamble with money that was not theirs.
DC: They loosened up the rules a little bit but didn’t blow it away altogether. Everything will still be okay for normal deposit-holders. It doesn’t affect the RV at all.
Tony: It might cause the public to bail the banks out again, though. Any time you see Democrats agreeing with Republicans, you know there is something going on!
562 caller: About the dong, if these games continue longer and Iraq does the RV but the US holds it all up for another few days, could we in the US cash in on the dong?
DC: Most likely, NO. Iraq controls the timing in the US.
Tony: If Iraq releases the dinar, and the US says “no dinar in the US until Monday”, can you access dong on Saturday? That’s the real question, right? If Iraq does the RV along with the rest of the world but the US doesn’t give us access, and if the GCR occurs, do we have access to the GCR.
DC: Technically, no, but if the UST tells the banks to hold off, they will.
423 caller: I am keeping my positive attitude! There was a discussion a while back about currencies that might revalue AGAIN in the second basket – would dong be one of those?
DC: What we’ve been told is that everything will be in the first basket only.
239 caller: I’m in SW Florida; is there an exchange place close by.
DC: There will be quite a few nearby, and banks will handle this individually as well. We won’t know which particular banks until afterwards.
Caller: Are the rates set, or going up or going down?
DC: I think they will keep them fixed until early January because it will be easier to deal with all the changes. Then it will go on Forex and go up and down after that. You could make the argument either way as to whether it floats up or down from there.
Tony: I would think that over the weekend it will be fixed so that they could rush us through in 72 hours, then hit Forex. My belief si that when it hits Forex it will go up. There is something we cannot tell you right now – great news – and if that happens, I don’t think we will see it on Forex or going up until January. If it happens this way, life will be absolutely great! But for those who believe in ‘greater, later’, that opportunity will come for the hedge funds, etc., they will know what is about to happen. They will run it, and some of you will decide to ride that and some won’t. sThey said this morning that they will blow through Christmas, and that is different from what they said on Monday!
Caller: I hold 8-10 different currencies besides the four we have discussed. Will they be in this first basket as well? Or will they revalue later?
DC: We are not financial advisers, but there will be a lot of adjustments in the various currencies depending on whether you are on a cruise ship (US dollars) or a smaller fishing boat.
Tony: You will see adjustments every 90 to 180 days for those that require adjusting, until this has settled down.
Caller: So should I hold a little longer on some currencies?
Tony: I don’t know. How strong is your heart? I would prefer to get off the ride, myself. There are a whole lot of other ways to make money. Last night I was having a cigar and telling someone about 3-D printing. There is a company creating 3-D skin that they are selling to research companies – there was a program on CNBC. They are about to have an IPO. So there are other ways to make money besides currency. [Tried to pick up a Texas number, but the person wasn’t listening. Tony + DC chitchat about Texas.]
919 caller: I’m not from Texas, but I do like to ride the horses. I’m in North Carolina. If I want to ride this horse a little longer, meaning waiting for the Forex… is that something I am allowed to do?
DC: I think you will be allowed to do it, but we just don’t know where that will go.
Caller: If I decline the contract rate, I’d like to take a little longer ride, maybe. Who is still not working together on this?
DC: Now they are all working together nicely, at least since Tuesday.
Tony: We are not hearing that it has been held up apart from not being in position on Wednesday night.
DC: We are told they have a few more minor procedural issues. They can easily be solved if the right people are in the right room or call. They would have had a hard time if someone had forced the issue, so they are walk through those final issues now.
Tony: Pam told us to cut it off at an hour today because she has higher priorities.
DC: It is a wonderful weekend. Everyone has gotten together, working well across the entire world as well as the US: IMF, BIS, Bank of England, CBI, most major banks and all the rest are working together. All minor issues are being addressed quickly. Our understanding is that this will go as soon as the last issues are solved and no one is going home until this is done. Cautiously, things look really, really good.
Tony: Everything we are hearing is “push, push, push” and even Washington was asking this morning, “Why isn’t this done? Let’s go!” It’s looking really good, the best we’ve seen it in months and weeks. This is the first time we’ve seen this many people transported across the world to get this done. I hope nothing gets in the way. If anything happens over the weekend, I will tweet it out – I hope we have a conversation this weekend. Enjoy the rest of your day and we’ll talk to you later!
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1 comment:
This is shameful; the lies are endless. May Tony and DC find themselves in prison one day...
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