PART 2 - WED. JAN. 15, 2014 CC NOTES 1PM EST

Subject: PART 2 - WED. JAN. 15, 2014 CC NOTES 1PM EST
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DC- AS A GUY IN THE ROOM, AND A BIZ. GUY, MY NATURAL CALLING AND DID MY SERVICE, IS THAT THEY OPERATE BY DIFF. RULES - SO PICK ON AGENCY XYZ - IF YOU WERE A SENIOR EXEC. W XYZ - THEY TRAINED YOU TO THINK AND DO AND PROMOTED IT THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO THINK AND MOST OF IT IS RISK ADVERSE AND PROFIT ORIENTED, AND THIS IS ALL BRAND NEW AND RISKY AND NO DEFINED LAWS FOR THIS AND MAKING UP THE LAWS AS THEY GO ALONG - VERY FEW AT THE TABLE ARE REAL ENTREPRENEURS - YOU DON'T GET TO BE IN THE ( PLEASE LISTEN TO HIS EXPLANATION - 52 MINUTES INTO THE CALL )  ITS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THIS PROCESS ------------------BLOG TALK WENT DEAD--------

dc- so there are risk averse ppl that are trained - and a recipe for delays and its what we've been in the middle of and a bloody nightmare and a world wide event and coordinating the world - a logistical nightmare, so why --- you have this incredible mix --
dc- whats been so painful for so many - is that we are plugged in and at the tail end of this dog - ( he continues to discuss why its been delayed )
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dc- Pam wants me to mention - an email ? - Pam has one for me, when you are done
t- don't want to answer them, not relevant 
dc - how I came about
t- if you do that, I need her to read it
Pam- give me one sec DC
t- a whole lot will find this interesting
dc- at 7 central est. or 6:30 this morn. 
( looking for an email )

T- can you comment on CL announce the GCR at the big summit on the 21st
dc- can not
t- what happened to the Fed Res. releasing to the UST
dc- don't know what you mean
PAM-  can Tony share how /DC came about, how he entered the pic. what is his role for us, and ( listen to the call for this long question )
dc- here is what I'll answer, bottom line, I'd listened to Tony for a while - personally and thought it was a good thing to do, and thought he had a good temperament and good contacts and I had some contracts and that basically ended in April of last year and offered my service to Tony- I'm an active civilian now and friends in a few places ---why? Because I thought this was meant to be shared w/ the world and could help ppl in poor situations and a life changer in a positive way and I'm a believer that a lot of dinarians will be generous, and to charities and I viewed it as a public service - do I get personal benefit - sure, I get friends w Tony and others and broaden my info sourcing - and didn't have connections in banking, but not the top notch stuff that Tony brings, ……( listen to the replay for the rest of the explanation ) 

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c- cbi site down, what does it  mean
dc - the cbi site , other times they took it down to do a test, and redirecting it to another site thats been tested and fully operational - part of the RV process and that is why they took it down Friday/ … and make sure it worked - good to go
c- so quite significant then
dc- yes
c- I'll keep packing my bags

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c- reserves at Sterling, double dipping, legit way to handle them, 
t- let me tell you something and believe it w/ all my heart, if there was an issue w/ reserves or the NDA to pay for them after you get the contract rate, this is what I would do --- instead of going and cashing out to the street rate and then go to arrange to pay for reserves and then come back to the bank --- I'd do it diff.
when its announced and then I'll go and do a sell order at Sterling - thats where mine is at -- then sell enough at that market rate - trying not to say it again --- and then enough to pay off my reserves and done - have them overnight it or go down and pick it up and then go to my 800# and have it in hand, I don't want to give them the money --- plus he has been doing reserves - and give it to him - not cashing  out the whole thing at the market rate, and then you choose which currency you have there at the market rate - wouldn't want to do my dinar - its so much more than the VNN,  wouldn't want to do the VNN if I have the Indonesian, and then its not double dipping --- LISTEN TO THE REPLAY --- we are at 1 hour and 18 minutes into the call,
Make sense?
c- yeah
c- so they are willing to -- lets say we have Rupiah and instead of sending you the cash, apply it to the layaway
t- put in a sell order and apply to the balance and ship the rest 
c- ty

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c- on your twitter you said you'd talk about taxes
T- YOU HAVE A DISTINCT VOICE AND WAS ON THE OTHER DAY
DC GOT TEXTS AND I GOT TEXTS AND THEY DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A TOPIC OF CONVERSATION
SO LETS JUST DO WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED AT THE MOMENT
DC- SAFE THAT WAY

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c- STERLING said they will take 4-7 days to go thru the process, how long till the rates drop
t- they told you first come firs serve and if I hear the RV is live and go to my computer and put in a sell order and you go to the bank, etc.. to send them a wire, whose order is in first, yours or mine
c- yours is
c- but how much time do we have before we call the 800# and the rates move
t- can't tell you the exact time if I knew it, but couldn't tell you - once i made it public they would change it
c- are the banks working w/ us
t- told you several times, everyone is not getting the high rate, not going to be there for everyone, not designed to --not going to drop 5.00 a day - but it is going down and no diff. there than it is at Sterling - first come - first serve
c- if you had a few mil. in hand, would you exchange those, before you pick up your order or wait
t- at this moment, my understanding is that you can use the 800# one time - when it does come out - the rules might change and I understand that there is one bank that is coming up w/ a policy for reserves - but when it comes out - hope we have it - don't waste your one shot w/ the 800# --- thats wrong - but at the time we don't know the best way - if you have 5M hard and 50M on reserve, why blow the one shot on that
c- ty - can it go today or tomorrow - 
t- def. before Friday morning - lets say you heard all the texts come in

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c- can you tell us about tiers
t- ummm - I could - but I can't
t- it could still occur before you exchange, but
c- short window, useful to us, once the RV happens
t- I do, feel like I have a window, unless they do something diff and discuss it, but we'll see
c- so call the toll free number and give our layaway and priority for getting into the bank
t- it will make sure you get the right wealth manager from the start and make sure that you get to the right home bank in your area, diff. bank has diff. customers


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c- so in the past DHS tracks it w/ the 800#, if we have a Private Banker, can we get the contract rate w/ them or 
t- now, getting contacted by private bankers and still do the NDA - but ppl w/ privileges, not what you know, but who
c- if we can get in, and avoid the 800# - better chance at the high rate
t- not a better chance, you can still get the higher rate and are authorized to give the rate, but the only way to get the rate is the 800# for the majority, and if you have a private banker … LISTEN TO THE REPLAY FOR THE DETAILS -- you would be the exception to the rule -
c- penalty for circumventing the 800#
t- no - you can work it out
c- track thru fincen, versus 800#
t- and they will
c- but either way we can go
t- either way, with a private banker
t- this is how they make their money - not turning down a new multi millionaire client

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c- you mentioned a street rate and contract rate for the dong
t- get the contract rate by calling the 800#
t- international or market rate by walking into the bank
c- same 800# as the IQN
t- my understanding now, is there is an 800# for the US rate and if you dial the US number, you'll get the US rate on the VNN and IQN  and if you dial the China number, you get the China rate on the IQN and VNN and if you dial the group number, you'll get the group rate
c- so you'll get 3 numbers
t- thats my understanding
T- NEED TO STRESS THIS - SO NO ONE MESSES IT UP-
DO NOT GO TO THE BANKS
DO NOT DO NOT
DO NOT
DON'T DRIVE BUSES THERE
DONT' RIDE BIKES THERE
DO NOT LINE UP IN THE PARKING LOT
OR ANYWHERE NEAR THE PARKING LOT
IF THEY PERCEIVE THIS TO BE AN ISSUE
THEY WILL DELAY IT MORE
TODAY, TOMORROW, OR WHEN I GIVE THE 800#
DON'T CALL THE BANK NOW
DONT' ASK THEM ANYTHING
IF ANYTHING TAKES OFF THEY WILL SHUT IT DOWN
TODAY, TOMORROW OR FRIDAY MORNING
IF IT SEEMS OUT OF CONTROL 
THEY WILL STOP IT
LETS GET THE 800#S AND FOLLOW THE PROCEDURES
SO ITS ORDERLY
AND THEY DON'T GET SPOOKED
AT LEAST IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT
WAIT TILL THE 2ND OR 3RD DAY - TILL I GET MINE OUT
SO HOLD ON
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c-regarding the scenario of what you are going to do, and get your reserves overnighted - i.e. FedEx or with guards delivering it
t- for some reason or another, they said they'd ship it after the rv, so… they would fly to ppl and cash you out themselves, a bunch of scenarios, and for the international rate, but for the contract rate, …
first come first serve, he's not going to wait, and he'll send them out immediately, so the whole thing is to be first
c- sounds risky w/ fed ex, but….
c- they know what they're doing
t- me too, but….
c- RUPIAH, if I had it on hand, and after the RV want the street rate - that wouldn't have anything to do w/ contract rate with anything else I do
t- do it again --
c- holding a small amt. of rupiah and I went to the bank and got the street rate and that would have nothing to do w/ getting the CONTRACT RATE ON OTHER CURRENCIES
t- being told there is no contract rate on the Zim or Rupiah - thats a good way to do it - or had a reserve, I'd pick the Rupiah - they have the lower rate - not losing anything - if the exchanger uses it
c- look forward to Sacramento
t- ty

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c- strong feeling that the jello is wiggling - over ---long comment
T- ALL THE PPL THAT WERE A PART OF IT, AND I APPRECIATE IT TOO, ON OM AND ON THE SITE, BOTH CHAT ROOMS, TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD, USED TO WHEN WE HAD MORALS, AND IT TOOK A VILLAGE TO DO THIS, NOT ABOUT TONY - BRINGING ADDITIONAL INFO AND I COULDN'T SAY AND OTHERS COULD AND APPRECIATE THEM ALL
c- invited to my wedding, DC too

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c- only 2 rates for the VNN
t- 4 rates for everything
t- contract rate, no sorry - for the VNN - if you dial the 800#s - you'll get a rate and an international rate, so 3 rates 
INTERNATIONAL RATE
US RATE
CHINA RATE

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c- w/ contract, bait and switch
t- could be
t- lets have DC 
dc- bait and switch?
c- like to go to high rates and get little and sign nda
( LISTEN TO THIS - A HEAVY ACCENT )
t- if you call the 800# and get the US rate or the China rate, you don't have to leave your money in the bank - well, 
dc- dont' want to trip 
t- for the most part no - most won't have to worry - they won't try to trick you, but originally in the group agreement - you had to leave X in the bank and they had to invest it
t- when we do the call, later or tomorrow or whenever, and do the 800#s I'll answer it then
dc- if you are not comfortable, then don't do it
dc- so if you don't get the contract rate, boo ho you don't get 30,000 making your money back,  but 3000 times your money
t- right, worse case, 3000 times your money
t- I'll help you as I can, we've discussed this for the last 3 years, and the 10 things to do, and the Who moved my Cheese and CEHM, and should have been preparing for this moment and for some of you its going to be a challenge, but you need to take time and do it right and ask for help.

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c- don't want to slow it down, but going to take a chance and ask
t- wait ---if its in the gray line - then ask DC not me
c- the Zim rates
t- the Zim is super fantastic, the least of our worries
c- on the East Coast, the banks are already closing, will we exchange after hours
t- the schedule was to be up to 11pm, but don't know if it will be the first night, but every night after, and when its announced and what time
c- can presume, that the dinar applies to the dong too
t- yes
WE DON'T WANT TO BE THE EXCUSE THEY USE, TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING

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c- dc - don't drive and text, we don't want to lose you
c- reserves, I was going to cash out a small amt. and then I have a private banker and talk w/ him and involve him to pay off the layaways and then pick up reserves and armored van -- 
t- if you have time to do it and that amt. - you have to get the armored car on your own, the bank may help - but - thats a way to do it, and if he can facilitate it… 
t- again guys, there is a procedure in place for the reserves and we haven't been briefed yet, hope when we get the numbers, hope we can 
t- based on the info so far, I gave you my scenario
c- no matter how you feel about Obamacare, there is a tax penalty,
c- you have until March. 31st, just get on the affordable health care act, so …
T- THATS YOUR PSA OF THE DAY
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ALRIGHT
MAN, THATS THE FIRST TIME I HAD SOMEONE DO A PSA, CAN'T BELIEVE IT
OUR TIME IS UP
NOT GOING TO SCHEDULE ANOTHER CALL FOR LATER
BUT IF WE DO ONE
YOU'LL MORE THAN LIKELY GET THE TWEET
STILL GOING TO POST THE NUMBERS AND REBUILD THE SITE
AND WE DID ONE FOR EACH BANK
BUT WE'LL PUT IT IN THE SAME PLACES
AND THE FORUM
AND TWEET IT OUT TO GO AND LOOK
OR IF ITS SIMPLE, PUT IT IN THE TWEET
SEE HOW IT GOES
DEF. SEE WHAT HAPPENS
ENJOY YOUR DAY
AND BE ON HIGH ALERT
AND IT COULD BE ANYTIME
DC--HAVE A GREAT DAY AND JUST PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT GOES ON THE NEXT COUPLE DAYS
PAM- RAY
RAY- GONNA QUOTE THE LYRICS - TURN OUT THE LIGHTS, THE PARTY IS OVER
PAM - PIF AND KEEP PIFING IT AND WE'RE HERE FOR YOU AND HOPE YOU ARE FOR OTHERS
WITH THAT
HOPE WE TALK LATER

AND ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR DAY