Wednesday, June 4, 2014

Johnnie Responds to Bullshit Comments

I John MacHaffie am totally independent and not connected to any church or organization.
NESARA is a inspired legal solution to the world’s mess and I personally like to think is influenced by higher spiritual levels.
I tell it like it is and I am a straight shooter.
My goal is to seek the truth and help you all become more aware.

John MacHaffie

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John,
I want to clear your name and kick him out of my room if he’s just made up these ugly allegations.

[6:28:32 PM] Bernie Besherse: MacHaffie is with NESARA, and they work for the ten largest churches in the world, centered in Rome.  They appear to be trying to promote a war between the Merchants of the Earth and the Kings of the Earth, so the Churhes can end up ruling the world.
[6:29:52 PM] DR: I thought Lew was arrested yesterday
[6:32:14 PM | Edited 6:32:28 PM] jetdriver2: Bernie - do you have some back-up for this information regarding John MacHaffie?
[6:32:51 PM] Bernie Besherse: He is obviously with NESARA.  He does not hide that.
[6:33:23 PM] jetdriver2: What does that mean?
[6:33:41 PM] Bernie Besherse: A year and a half ago, NESARA announced publicly that they received their funding from the world's 10 largest churches, centered in Rome.
[6:34:37 PM] jetdriver2: As far as I know NESARA is not an organization or a group - it is a purported law.
[6:34:49 PM] Bernie Besherse: The big picture on the political front is that there is a behind-the-scenes contest going on for world domination by either the Aristocracy, the bankers/industrialists, and the churches.
[6:35:18 PM] jetdriver2: Do you have a link for that? Which churches?
[6:35:20 PM] Bernie Besherse: NESARA is not a law.  It was a proposed law that was turned into a cult-like thing.\
[6:35:49 PM] Bernie Besherse: It was their own announcement.  It may still be on their web site from about October 2012.
[6:36:21 PM] jetdriver2: What is cult-like? A cult revolves around a cult figure.
[6:36:31 PM] jetdriver2: Which web site?
[6:37:25 PM] jetdriver2: I said it was a purported law - but if you want to call it a proposed law, it still does not make it a group or an organization.
[6:37:33 PM] Bernie Besherse: The NESARA web site.
[6:37:59 PM] Bernie Besherse: For a while, Dove of One-ness was the cult figure.
[6:40:17 PM] Bernie Besherse: When she died, they had to find someone else.
[6:40:32 PM] Bernie Besherse: It looks like John MacHaffie took her place.
[6:40:41 PM] DR: Is Ben Fulford in this movement?
[6:40:43 PM | Edited 6:43:31 PM] jetdriver2: MacHaffie does not run a NESARA web site - his web site is NESARA NEWS  - he is a single individual who gathers and publishes news related to the NESARA issues primarily involving government corruption. I have never seen anything indicating any kind of link to any churches except perhaps the ITCCS stuff - which is really about corruption in the churches.
[6:42:08 PM] jetdriver2: Bernie - I just don't buy those assertions. You are making unfounded statements without attribution or substantiation.
[6:42:49 PM] Bernie Besherse: That's OK.  Just keep your eyes open.
[6:42:59 PM] DR: I google Nasara and get nothing
[6:43:10 PM] Bernie Besherse: NEsara
[6:43:16 PM] DR: ok
[6:43:57 PM] Bernie Besherse: national economic stabilization and recovery act, or something like that.
[6:44:27 PM] Bernie Besherse: Look it up on Wikipedia.org
[6:44:34 PM] DR: yes, its just a proposed bill that has never been voted on
[6:47:25 PM] DR: Sadly, this disinformation campaign has reduced the credibility of Dr. Barnard’s efforts and today the word “NESARA” is an ill-received word at Congress. To this day Dr. Barnard’s NESARA proposal has yet to be introduced into Congress.
[6:48:50 PM] mission usc: Sorry for interrupting the current convo, but this is good:

Thomas Piketty Pens Communist Manifesto for 21st Century

Keith Weiner Contributor
5/31/2014 @ 11:15AM

Thomas Piketty is a Frenchman who had been promoting wealth redistribution in obscurity. Now that Harvard University Press has published his book, Capital in the Twenty-First Century, he has catapulted into the spotlight.

I didn’t read his book, though you don’t have to in order to understand why it’s mostly wrong. Piketty makes an observation, a diagnosis, and a prescription. His observation is right, so let’s start there.

R > G

Piketty says that return on capital is higher than the growth rate. He believes the return on capital is 5 percent and the growth rate is 1 percent. The share of wealth owned by the rich is increasing.

Consider Exxon Mobil. Today, it’s worth over 400 billion dollars. If Piketty is right, it will be worth over a trillion in 20 years—a multiple of its current value. Compare to your salary. If you earn a hundred grand today, you’ll be making $122,000. Owners are getting farther and farther ahead of workers, or in Marxist terms, capital is taking what belongs to labor.

The Marxist views the economy like a pie that doesn’t grow, so the only thing to do is squabble over the division of it. Remember as a kid, sharing a pizza with siblings? The older ones take fat wedges, and the youngest gets a skinny sliver. Piketty claims that everything will eventually be owned by family dynasties, in “patrimonial capitalism”.

He is right that there is a massive wealth transfer under way. I wrote an article last fall showing that real wages have been falling for decades. However, his diagnosis is faulty. The Financial Times and others now cast doubt on the integrity of his data, but that’s the lesser point.

Piketty thinks that capitalism is the cause, but wealth transfer has nothing to do with capitalism. Look at what Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak did in a relatively free part of the market. Apple doesn’t hog anyone’s pie. It makes money by creating new pies. Apple customers, poor and rich alike, are better off for having graphical computers and tablets.

Piketty’s data does not come from capitalist economies, because no country in the world has capitalism. They never did, though the United States once came close. He makes a fatal error by saying capitalism and the free market are causing rising inequality.

Governments intrude in markets in every way, but let’s just look at central banks like the Federal Reserve. The Fed is the central planner of money. Everyone uses money, which means everyone depends on the Fed’s decisions. By definition, it’s not a free market when the government sets the most important prices.

While no one can take your piece of pie in a free market, it’s a piece of cake for the Fed. Suppose you had a twenty-dollar bill in 1970. It could buy enough gas to fill two cars. If you hid it under the mattress, and took it out today, it now buys about 5 gallons. Most of the value of that bill was sliced off by the Fed’s policy of debasement. This is a direct transfer of wealth, taken from the saver.

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

For his prescription, Piketty’s takes two planks straight out of The Communist Manifesto. The first is an 80 percent tax on income. Think about that. You work and take risks, and the government steals the lion’s share. Why would anyone bother?

The second is to impose a tax on wealth too. Every year, you will have to add up the value of your wealth and forfeit a percentage. This hurts everyone, of course, but think about a family farm or startup business. It might be worth millions according to the IRS, but you will have to find something to sell so you can pay. The wolf will be back at your door every year, until you lose your assets.

Sure, these taxes will equalize wealth—the way chopping off the legs of tall people equalizes height. Piketty is clear that this is his goal. He doesn’t propose taxes merely to raise revenues. His goal is to keep anyone from growing wealthy.

[6:50:20 PM] mission usc:
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THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ... I can't even believe we are having to HAVE these conversations!!!!
[6:51:38 PM | Edited 6:55:06 PM] jetdriver2: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CHURCHES OR CULTS

History Behind the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA)

In early 1993, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled on charges by the Farmers Union that banks in the U.S. were fraudulently foreclosing on farm mortgages and that the U.S. government was in collusion with these banks. The testimony and proof brought into court by a retired CIA agent led to further evidence and proof that the Farmers Union claims were legitimate. It also led to evidence the income tax amendment was never properly ratified by the required number of states and therefore, income taxes were unlawful.

Almost unanimously the U.S. Supreme Court Justices ruled in favor of the Farmers Union. The Justices recognized that overwhelming evidence proved the U.S. government and the Federal Reserve Banking System were perpetrating fraud in many ways upon Americans. The Justices recognized that to remedy this situation, massive reformations would be required.

When rulings are made by the U.S. Supreme Court, one or more Justices are assigned to monitor a process by which the rulings are carried out. In this case, five Justices were assigned to a Committee to develop steps to implement required government and banking reformations. As the Justices went about developing the required reformations they enlisted the help of experts in economics, monetary systems, banking, Constitutional government and law, and many other related areas. The Justices built coalitions of support and assistance with thousands of people worldwide; these thousands of people working to bring us NESARA have been named "White Knights". The term "White Knights" is borrowed from the Wall Street Journal and the world of big business hostile takeovers when a vulnerable company is "rescued from a hostile takeover by a White Knight" corporation or wealthy person. Certainly, these people fighting to bring Americans and the world the benefits of NESARA and to rescue our people from government and banking fraud deserve to be called "White Knights".

Because of the enormously sweeping changes the rulings require, an extremely strict gag order was placed on everyone directly involved and the court case records are sealed until after the reformations are accomplished. To maintain secrecy, the case details for the docket number assigned to the Farmers Union case were changed so doing a search for this case will fail to reflect the correct information until after the reformations are made public. At every step of the process, anyone directly involved has been required to sign an agreement to keep the U.S. Supreme Court's process of implementing the required reformations "secret", or face charges of Treason which are punishable by death.

To implement the required reformations, the five Justices spent years negotiating how the reformations would occur in agreements called "Accords" with the U.S. government, with the Federal Reserve Bank owners, with the International Monetary Fund, with the World Bank, and with numerous other countries including the United Kingdom and countries of the Euro Zone. The U.S. banking system reformations require the Federal Reserve Bank system be absorbed by the U.S. Treasury Department and the banks' fraudulent activities stopped as well as remedies to U.S. citizens for past harm due to fraud by government and banks. The U.S. banking reformations will impact the entire world and therefore the IMF, World Bank, and other countries had to be involved.

Because the process of using Accords to implement the reformations were not successful, the Justices authorized the reformations be put into the form of a law named the National Economic Security And Reformation Act (NESARA) which was passed secretly on March 9, 2000. Again, secrecy was maintained by revising the official records; details of the bill number for NESARA were revised to reflect a commemorative coin and revised again more recently. Members of Congress have been ordered by the U.S. Supreme Court Justices to "deny" the existence of NESARA. Therefore, all members of Congress pretend that NESARA has not been passed in order to comply with the Justices' gag order.

The "National Economic Security And Reformation Act" - NESARA - provides major benefits to Americans including:

1. Forgiveness of credit card, mortgage debt, and other bank loans as remedy for bank and government frauds;
2. Abolishes the IRS; creates flat rate non-essential "new items only" sales tax revenue for government;
3. Initiates U.S. Treasury Bank System which absorbs the Federal Reserve and new precious metals backed U.S. Treasury currency;
4. Restores Constitutional Law;
5. Requires resignations of current administration to be replaced by Constitutionally acceptable NESARA President and Vice President Designates until new elections within 120 days;
6. Requires the President Designate to declare "Peace" enabling international banking improvements to proceed smoothly; ends U.S. aggressive military actions immediately, and many more improvements.

Many bank presidents and senior stockbrokers have privately confirmed to close personal friends that they have been briefed about the U.S. Treasury Bank System.

In June 2000, news of the secret NESARA law passage came from U.S. naval intelligence contacts, who are some of the White Knights assisting the Justices in activities involving NESARA. Some special interest groups have tried to stop the announcement and implementation of the NESARA law which provides major financial improvements for Americans.

The U.S. Supreme Court finally announced their rulings on the Farmers Union case in 1993. Because so many shocking revelations about government and banking fraud had been presented and proven by the Farmers Union, the U.S. Supreme Court Justices knew the details of their decisions could not be made public as it was going to take some time to develop and implement reformations to correct the flagrant government and banking frauds perpetrated for years on Americans. The U.S. Supreme Court Justices put the entire case under strict gag order and began working on correcting the injustices.

To read more about how the U.S. Supreme Court Justices proceeded, please read the "History" section at www.nesara.us.

The U.S. Supreme Court Justices do have a lawful and judicial requirement to make certain that reformations are instituted to stop the frauds being perpetrated by the federal government as proven in the Farmers Union case. The Justices are ultimately responsible for making sure necessary reformations are instituted in banking and government to end the many frauds.

This is WHY the four pro-NESARA U.S. Supreme Court Justices, Justice Ginsburg, Justice Souter, Justice Stevens, and Justice Breyer, have stepped forward to take control of making sure NESARA is announced. After years of attempting and failing to do the reformations by using "Accords" (agreements) with the Clinton Administration, the Justices decided to pursue having the NESARA law drafted and passed which encompassed all the reformations ordered in their 1993 ruling to correct the frauds.

The result was that the true NESARA law was passed for the first time in March 2000. NESARA has been passed again each year since, mainly for the political excuse that when NESARA is announced, the date of passage of NESARA will be more recent than March 2000. Politicians don't want Americans to realize that NESARA has been blocked from being announced for years because Americans will be angry when they learn how long their NESARA benefits have been delayed.

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[6:52:01 PM] Bernie Besherse: All ten planks of the Communist Manifesto are alive and well in the U.S.A.
[6:52:35 PM | Edited 6:53:18 PM] jetdriver2: HISTORY OF NESARA (continued)

Some people have wondered how the U.S. Supreme Court, who unconstitutionally ruled for Bush Jr. in the year 2000 Presidential election case, could possibly be the main forces behind NESARA. The answer is that there was divine intervention by Beloved Ascended Master Saint Germaine on the Justices and others involved related to the 1993 landmark rulings in the Farmers Union case and also as the rulings progressed to becoming the NESARA law.

However, in other matters, Beloved Ascended Master Saint Germaine has not intervened because Americans must go through certain experiences in order to realize how far off course the U.S. has gone and thus more proof of why NESARA is needed. For this reason, He did not intervene when the five Illuminati U.S. Supreme Court Justices unconstitutionally "selected" Bush Jr. in the year 2000 election case. You can see who the five Illuminati in the U.S. Supreme Court are in the January 2004 picture of the U.S. Supreme Court Justices at http://www.nesara.us/pages/dovereports.html. Those Justices who ruled in favor of Bush Jr. have the words "For Bush" stamped in yellow on them. (Recent problems with accessing this and some other pages at www.nesara.us have been corrected per our webmaster this morning.)

The other four U.S. Supreme Court Justices in the picture at http://www.nesara.us/pages/dovereports.html are the four pro-NESARA Justices who ruled against Bush Jr. and this year have been the driving force working to get NESARA announced. Essentially, because NESARA is the implementation of the U.S. Supreme Court's 1993 rulings in the Farmers Union case, the U.S. Supreme Court Justices have the obligation to ensure the rulings and reformations are implemented.

In most court cases, Judges hand out rulings and consequences such as sentences of imprisonment or monetary fines or community service. We are accustomed to seeing Judges hand down these kinds of rulings. However, the broad spread fraud and harm done to Americans by agencies of the federal government and the Federal Reserve banking system had to be rectified in other ways; fundamental reformations of the federal government and the banking system must be made and many officials and politicians who have knowingly broken their oaths to uphold the Constitution must be removed from power. The NESARA law became the tool by which the U.S. Supreme Court's 1993 rulings are being implemented.

Years ago the U.S. Supreme Court Justices recruited support for the NESARA reformations and in the process developed a committee of leaders whom I call the White Knight Decision Team. The U.S. Supreme Court Justices authorized the White Knight Decision Team leaders to carry out actions to handle preparations for NESARA and bring NESARA to announcement. However, from the beginning the White Knight Decision Team included numerous Illuminati double-agents posing as White Knights. Over the years, the Illuminati have periodically managed to infiltrate and control the White Knight Decision Team members.

This year, the four pro-NESARA U.S. Supreme Court Justices (Ginsburg, Souter, Stevens, and Breyer) were encouraged by many people, including thousands of us via our postcards, to take control of the actions to move NESARA to announcement. After years of watching the NESARA announcement be sabotaged by Illuminati interference, the four pro-NESARA U.S. Supreme Court Justices decided to take control of the actions needed to move NESARA into announcement.

To accomplish this, one of the things the four pro-NESARA Justices have done is issued lawful orders to the members of the White Knight Decision Team prohibiting these WK Decision Team members from doing anything related to NESARA except what the four pro-NESARA Justices specifically tell them to do. The four Justices develop all documents and orders related to NESARA and when necessary, require the White Knight Decision Team to "sign" the documentation or orders. This is how the Justices are accomplishing having the thousands of U.S. military reservists called to active duty to replace the 25,000 White Knights in the U.S. military who must be deployed around the U.S. on security duty beginning the week of March 22, 2004 when the NESARA announcement time period begins. The four pro-NESARA U.S. Supreme Court Justices will continue to require the White Knight Decision Team to basically rubber stamp the orders the Justices develop. The White Knight Decision Team is constantly watched to keep them from causing problems with the NESARA announcement actions.

This is the first time the four pro-NESARA U.S. Supreme Court Justices have taken over control of the actions needed to get NESARA announced. These four dedicated people are determined to see NESARA announced this year. Let us keep these four Justices and all the people who are helping move NESARA to announcement in our prayers, meditations, and energy work focuses in these weeks as NESARA's announcement approaches. NESARA Now!

[6:53:04 PM | Edited 6:53:38 PM] mission usc: Yes, they are, Bernie, and try telling that to an ignorant, ideological liberal. :(
[6:53:50 PM] mission usc: (as you well know)
[6:58:51 PM | Edited 6:59:20 PM] mission usc:
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USDA Pays $1.3 Billion in Crop Subsidies to People Who Don't Farm

[7:00:01 PM] mission usc: [I'm obviously switching between topics ... (chuckle) ]
[7:04:10 PM] mission usc: jet, did you actually READ everything you posted?  I actually really have a problem with this little couple of sentences:

"To maintain secrecy, the case details for the docket number assigned to the Farmers Union case were changed so doing a search for this case will fail to reflect the correct information until after the reformations are made public. At every step of the process, anyone directly involved has been required to sign an agreement to keep the U.S. Supreme Court's process of implementing the required reformations "secret", or face charges of Treason which are punishable by death."
[7:04:40 PM] mission usc:
Uhhh ... wow!
[7:05:07 PM] Bernie Besherse: That would be kinda un-American, I think.
[7:05:26 PM] Bernie Besherse: violation of the public trial stuff
[7:05:43 PM | Edited 7:08:09 PM] jetdriver2: I am not advocating for NESARA or against NESARA - I am only saying that I have not seen any evidence of church sponsorship or cult-like behavior in connection with NESARA. As far as I know, John MacHaffie is a single independent indivual with no ties to any organization related to NESARA who puts a lot of effort into publishing information on government corruption which is the apparent origin of NESARA. His poliical leanings are certainly not aligned with the liberal Supreme Court jutices who are reported (in the above article) to be supporting NESARA. The stuff John MacHaffie posts is consistently conservative and consistently anti-Obama.
[7:05:52 PM] DR: The justices are involved in this?  Since when do Justices care about restoringthe constitution and rule of law?
[7:06:26 PM] mission usc: NESARA claimed in February, I think it was, that Justice Roberts unilaterally signed NESARA into law.
[7:06:55 PM] DR: point well taken Jet...I don't see a Vatican connection
[7:07:00 PM] mission usc: At least that's what I took away from what I read.

I know nothing about John MacHaffie's affiliation with any of it.
[7:07:14 PM] mission usc: I'm talking strictly about NESARA.
[7:08:19 PM] mission usc: I've never felt that there was any church relationship with NESARA,either, although I haven't done any homework on it.
[7:10:26 PM] DR: Megyn Kelly takes on a liberal...wow...http://therightscoop.com/megyn-kelly-takes-on-liberal-who-thinks-five-taliban-terrorists-arent-a-danger-to-americans/
[7:11:04 PM] jetdriver2: I just asked Bernie to provide substantiation for the assertions he made:

[6:28 PM] Bernie Besherse:

<<< MacHaffie is with NESARA, and they work for the ten largest churches in the world, centered in Rome.  They appear to be trying to promote a war between the Merchants of the Earth and the Kings of the Earth, so the Churhes can end up ruling the world.
[7:11:53 PM] jetdriver2: I don't see how one can get this from anything I have read about NESARA.
[7:13:08 PM] Bernie Besherse: Keep reading about them, but don't believe that what you read is the whole story, about anything.
[7:14:15 PM] jetdriver2: What is the whole story? Please tell us. Give us some links.
[7:16:03 PM] jetdriver2: What we have learned is that nothing we read about anything is the whole story.

DR

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