Tlar:
"No News Is Probably Good News"
07/10/2014
Post From Currency Chatter - Tlar & Friends Comments
After News Article
US, Iran and Saudi agree on Maliki's third term
The United Sates, Iran and Saudi Arabia have agreed to allow Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki to stay in office for a third term, Al-Araby Al-Yawm newspaper reported.
The news agency quoted an Iraqi source familiar with the agreement details as saying "according to the agreement Al-Maliki will have to give up sovereign ministries and the security file, and abide by the 2010 agreement and establish a National Security Council for Iraq, headed by a Sunni figure."
Sunni, Shia and sections of the Kurdish Jalal Talabani's group have united to counter Kurdistan's attempts to separate from Iraq, the source said.
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US, Iran and Saudi agree on Maliki's third term
The United Sates, Iran and Saudi Arabia have agreed to allow Iraq's Prime Minister Nouri Al-Maliki to stay in office for a third term, Al-Araby Al-Yawm newspaper reported.
The news agency quoted an Iraqi source familiar with the agreement details as saying "according to the agreement Al-Maliki will have to give up sovereign ministries and the security file, and abide by the 2010 agreement and establish a National Security Council for Iraq, headed by a Sunni figure."
Sunni, Shia and sections of the Kurdish Jalal Talabani's group have united to counter Kurdistan's attempts to separate from Iraq, the source said.
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It is expected that the
agreement will be concluded before the Eid Al-Fitr holiday, at the end of July,
during a meeting to choose the three government prominent posts.
According to the source, Barham Saleh will be chosen as president while Saleem Al-Jbouri will act as parliament speaker, and Al-Maliki as prime minister.
"Tarek Najm is expected to become vice president, and Hussein Al-Attiyah will act as foreign minister succeeding Hoshyar Zebari," Al-Araby Al-Yawm said.
The source noted that Sunni figures from Tikrit and Mosul will be chosen for sovereign ministries.
The Iraqi parliament announced yesterday that it has decided to bring forward its second parliamentary session. "We have decided to bring forward the second parliament session to Sunday July 13," acting parliament speaker, Mehdi Al-Hafez, said in a statement.
Military sources said the Iraqi forces continue to bomb Sunni areas in Tikrit, Baquba and Diyala where elements of the former Iraqi army and Baath Party affiliates are believed to be positioned.
According to the source, Sunni leaders describe Sunni militants as rebels who revolted against Al-Maliki's sectarian policies.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/12663-us-iran-and-saudi-agree-on-malikis-third-term
BlueyesinLevis: The Sunni's would burn Iraq to the ground.... obvious bull crap The Saudis DESPISE Maliki...
rDiddy I can imagine the average Iraqi's response - why bother having elections if the US, Iran and the Saudis are calling the shots? I call BS on this article
Tim: don't believe it, maybe Iran would support Maliki but there's no way that the US and the Saudi's would support a marginalized dictatorial government.
Rileysetter: Saudi Arabia is 90% plus Sunni Muslim. I highly doubt they would give their stamp of approval to Maliki. If they found a way to strip him of most of his power...maybe...but I still have my doubts about this article.
KJWayne: What was it tlar said would happen, more mis conflicting news and rumors JUST before the end. Or something like that. I call this as one of the BS articles he is talking about.
Peace: KJWayne I agree there's too much suffocating smoke "Cough!!!!
XXXXX: Here's Vinman's thoughts on this: "
If the "National Security Council," (which would be headed by a Sunni) is the same entity discussed in the original Erbil agreement, then this is just plain BULL.
Assuming it's the same, the entity mentioned in the Erbil Agreement would have had POWER sharing and quasi-legislative power. THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR THIS IN THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION.
To create an entity with "power" authority would require an amendment to the Iraqi Constitution. They can't just "create this out of thin air," just as President Obama cannot meet with Pelosi, Reed, Boehner and McConnell to form and decree a "group" of government with any decision-making authority or legislative power.
This is exactly how Allawi got hosed last time. After winning the popular vote (like Maliki did this time), he agreed to head this "Council" as part of a power-sharing agreement. But the Council was unconstitutional. Ooops. Sorry bud... you lose. But Maliki had already become PM so it was too late.
This is like a re-run of a really bad movie. I don't believe it for a nano. Don't need any popcorn for this one. I'm changin' the channel."
Aaanth: ths article has "made the rounds: already and has been shown to be part of the maliki spin machine. it's complete BS. disregaed this entirely
BeastMaster: Frankie Frankie believes this to be true. Actually, Frankie Frankie implies that he knew this was coming and it's out a day early.
Ralph: Tlar, pardon me, but what is POP?? Appreciate your input as always!!
Tlar: President of Parliament. Equivalent to our Speaker of the House in his duties. tlar
Tlar: There is no news that is noteworthy coming out. At this point in the process, no news is probably good news. What is being printed is utter nonsense.
Articles like this and the other saying the US and Iran are on board with a third term, are ridiculous. With all that's gone on, who would generate such a stupid premise?
I am sure there are a few holdouts in the SOL that are still hoping to see a third term most likely because they are deeply involved in theft and need the protection and are still speaking to the press, but by and large the SOL has turned its back on Maliki.
There is progress being made but we won't see it yet because the negotiations behind the scene I'm sure are delegate. (delicate?) We will wait to see the results of what has been going on this Sunday or before.
Everything will continue to be confusing in the news until then because the news itself is being largely kept in the dark and they are searching for stories. Hang in everyone. This will come out right.
I am hopeful that they can build the government in one day but realistically it might take a couple of days. If we see the new POP in place, that means to me that the 3 presidencies are more than likely to follow quickly.
It also could be that the new government could be introduced all at once before Sunday.
According to the source, Barham Saleh will be chosen as president while Saleem Al-Jbouri will act as parliament speaker, and Al-Maliki as prime minister.
"Tarek Najm is expected to become vice president, and Hussein Al-Attiyah will act as foreign minister succeeding Hoshyar Zebari," Al-Araby Al-Yawm said.
The source noted that Sunni figures from Tikrit and Mosul will be chosen for sovereign ministries.
The Iraqi parliament announced yesterday that it has decided to bring forward its second parliamentary session. "We have decided to bring forward the second parliament session to Sunday July 13," acting parliament speaker, Mehdi Al-Hafez, said in a statement.
Military sources said the Iraqi forces continue to bomb Sunni areas in Tikrit, Baquba and Diyala where elements of the former Iraqi army and Baath Party affiliates are believed to be positioned.
According to the source, Sunni leaders describe Sunni militants as rebels who revolted against Al-Maliki's sectarian policies.
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/12663-us-iran-and-saudi-agree-on-malikis-third-term
BlueyesinLevis: The Sunni's would burn Iraq to the ground.... obvious bull crap The Saudis DESPISE Maliki...
rDiddy I can imagine the average Iraqi's response - why bother having elections if the US, Iran and the Saudis are calling the shots? I call BS on this article
Tim: don't believe it, maybe Iran would support Maliki but there's no way that the US and the Saudi's would support a marginalized dictatorial government.
Rileysetter: Saudi Arabia is 90% plus Sunni Muslim. I highly doubt they would give their stamp of approval to Maliki. If they found a way to strip him of most of his power...maybe...but I still have my doubts about this article.
KJWayne: What was it tlar said would happen, more mis conflicting news and rumors JUST before the end. Or something like that. I call this as one of the BS articles he is talking about.
Peace: KJWayne I agree there's too much suffocating smoke "Cough!!!!
XXXXX: Here's Vinman's thoughts on this: "
If the "National Security Council," (which would be headed by a Sunni) is the same entity discussed in the original Erbil agreement, then this is just plain BULL.
Assuming it's the same, the entity mentioned in the Erbil Agreement would have had POWER sharing and quasi-legislative power. THERE IS NO PROVISION FOR THIS IN THE IRAQI CONSTITUTION.
To create an entity with "power" authority would require an amendment to the Iraqi Constitution. They can't just "create this out of thin air," just as President Obama cannot meet with Pelosi, Reed, Boehner and McConnell to form and decree a "group" of government with any decision-making authority or legislative power.
This is exactly how Allawi got hosed last time. After winning the popular vote (like Maliki did this time), he agreed to head this "Council" as part of a power-sharing agreement. But the Council was unconstitutional. Ooops. Sorry bud... you lose. But Maliki had already become PM so it was too late.
This is like a re-run of a really bad movie. I don't believe it for a nano. Don't need any popcorn for this one. I'm changin' the channel."
Aaanth: ths article has "made the rounds: already and has been shown to be part of the maliki spin machine. it's complete BS. disregaed this entirely
BeastMaster: Frankie Frankie believes this to be true. Actually, Frankie Frankie implies that he knew this was coming and it's out a day early.
Ralph: Tlar, pardon me, but what is POP?? Appreciate your input as always!!
Tlar: President of Parliament. Equivalent to our Speaker of the House in his duties. tlar
Tlar: There is no news that is noteworthy coming out. At this point in the process, no news is probably good news. What is being printed is utter nonsense.
Articles like this and the other saying the US and Iran are on board with a third term, are ridiculous. With all that's gone on, who would generate such a stupid premise?
I am sure there are a few holdouts in the SOL that are still hoping to see a third term most likely because they are deeply involved in theft and need the protection and are still speaking to the press, but by and large the SOL has turned its back on Maliki.
There is progress being made but we won't see it yet because the negotiations behind the scene I'm sure are delegate. (delicate?) We will wait to see the results of what has been going on this Sunday or before.
Everything will continue to be confusing in the news until then because the news itself is being largely kept in the dark and they are searching for stories. Hang in everyone. This will come out right.
I am hopeful that they can build the government in one day but realistically it might take a couple of days. If we see the new POP in place, that means to me that the 3 presidencies are more than likely to follow quickly.
It also could be that the new government could be introduced all at once before Sunday.
If that happens we would then know that parliament has
already been in session for a few days and would answer someone on here who
asked the question,
" if parliament is not in session, where are all the new laws that are being announced in the Gazette coming from?" It's a very insightful and intriguing question. tlar
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" if parliament is not in session, where are all the new laws that are being announced in the Gazette coming from?" It's a very insightful and intriguing question. tlar
www.currencychatter.com
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