Tuesday, August 2, 2011

White Hat Report # 25

Long read..... but worth every educational bit of it. Please note the reference to "President Zero" (.... giving credit where credit is due....)
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Subject: Updates From The Fly On The Wall-- As The Plot Thickens

http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/ See the post below dated July 22nd for a brief review on many of these stolen funds by the Dark Cabal. One recent event involved Ed Falcone (Florida real estate billionaire) who originally requested assistance from Mitt Romney and George Bush Sr. before the 2008 election to invest a Billion of his fortune into off shore trades. Well, this Dark Cabal parlayed that into a massive sum and then kept it --- cutting Falcone totally out of the deal.
Needless to say, Falcone isn't rolling over easy on this and has contacted political authorities to intervene reaching all the way to the current White House. Once O got involved, he bargained to sweep it under the rug for his take on the deal. $3 Billion Dollars later, President Zero is in a quandry as to where to hide and/or launder this dirty money.
Pure Conjecture: Puppeteer George Soros comes to mind that may have been the person that recently put $1 Billion on futures betting that the U.S. would default and lose its AAA rating in the near future. Hmmmmmm! That could gain that wager 1:10 or $8 to $10 Billion -- . . . . especially controlling the strings to the current White House puppet veto power. Question is . . .does a link exsist here???
August 1, 2011 - WHITE HATS REPORT #25
UPDATE: OBAMA CONTINUES TO MOVE HIS STOLEN FUNDS:

As we indicated in our last White Hats Report #24, the following is new preliminary information just received in reference to Obama's illegal funds. World Security Agencies and Falcone’s investigators continue to watch the movement of Obama's illegal funds with trading profits exceeding 3 Billion Dollars.
  • At this time, Obama has not moved his funds from HSBC, but he has started to move his illegal funds out of Barclay Bank. We are watching these activities and suspect this is partly due to the fact that Price Waterhouse Cooper has put Barclay Bank on notice for the mismanagement of massive stolen funds.
  • As we reported, Obama was moving some of his illegal funds into Asia. Investigators have found new accounts in the following Asian Banks:
Royal Bank of Scotland
Bank of America
CitiBank
JPMorgan Chase
  • Obama has moved some of his illegal funds and trading profits to Central America. Investigators have discovered accounts in BNP Paribas and Standard Charter Bank.
  • Obama is trying hard to hide part of the stolen funds and profits from investigators by moving funds into Chayma Bank, located in the tax haven of the Republic of San Marino, Italy.
The above is hard information and we will continue to report on the status of the funds as he moves them. We want to make sure that each and every American and World Leader is aware that we will relentlessly continue to watch Obama's many illegal activities.

We certainly know what Obama has been doing with his time. While the Senate and House have worked diligently to resolve America's Debt Ceiling and other financial problems of our Country, Obama has continued to be void of any involvement as he continues to focus mainly on his own illegal funds.

America is going bankrupt and our President is lining his pockets in secret. Only in America can the President get away with this right under everyone’s nose.
Posted by The White Hat Reporters at 12:45 AM 1 comments

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

HIDDEN AGENDA: THE 'DEBT CRISIS PLAN' WAS TO STRIKE A BLOW AT THE NATIONAL SOCIAL SAFETY NET, by Shamus Cooke. The debt crisis has been averted and people across the globe are breathing sighs of relief. But in the back rooms of the US Congress, politicians are celebrating for a different reason. ......The objective in this case was to strike the first blows against the national social safety net, without encountering massive resistance. Mission half-accomplished thus far. Half accomplished because only half of the $2.5 billion in cuts, have been decided on. The other half will be sent to a bi-partisan committee where, according to the White House Fact Sheet: "... the committee will consider responsible entitlement [Social Security and Medicare] and tax reform [cuts to entitlement programs]. This means putting all the priorities of both parties on the table – including both entitlement reform [Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid] and revenue-raising tax reform.” If the committee fails to agree on the cuts, they would be automatically triggered, and Medicare would be the target: "...any cuts to Medicare would be capped and limited to the provider side." ..... Nevertheless, the potential cuts will have a massive impact on the millions of Americans who depend on these vital services. And if these cuts are allowed to happen unopposed, the possibility of future, more dramatic cuts, is certain. Equally bad is that the budget deal makes the unemployment situation, even worse. In writing about the effect the cuts would have on employment, a Moody’s analyst predicted that: "The deal announced last night, calls for a yearly average of $240 billion in cuts over the next decade. Very roughly, that suggests the new plan would cost around 1.6 million jobs per year during that time. [!]" (August 1st, 2011). This noxious level of contempt for working people, was the product of a manufactured crisis, with Democrats and Republicans playing along. How did Obama and the Democrats essentially push through the long-term objectives of the Republican Party? Author Michael Hudson explains on Democracy Now: "... There has to be a crisis. Now, in reality, there is no crisis at all. In reality, raising the debt ceiling has been done for a hundred years, automatically. There is no connection between raising the debt ceiling and arguing over tax policy. Tax policy takes many years to work out. All of a sudden, Mr. Obama is going along with the charade of saying, "Wait a minute, let’s create a crisis."... And Wall Street doesn’t like real crises, so there’s an artificial non-crisis, that Obama is treating as a crisis, so that he can put forth the recommendations of the Deficit Reduction Commission, to get rid of Social Security that he has supported all along." (July 22nd, 2011). Thus, it's not true that Obama was "held hostage" by the Republicans. ...... If Obama would have told the country that the Republicans wanted massive cuts to Social Security and Medicare, instead of purposely hiding these issues, Republican voters would have converged on Capitol Hill with torches and pitchforks. ...... Liberal groups and the major labor federations -- AFL-CIO and Change to Win -- ....... wrongly blaming only the Republicans, every step of the way....... These groups intend to "get out the vote" for Obama in 2012, while ignoring all the damage he's done to working families, while they also ignore all the promises Obama made to them, and didn't keep last time.
...(....)...http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25862 AND
http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/us_government/news.php?q=1312305009 ..

Anonymous said...

OBAMA'S FINAL LOOPHOLE: THE 'CATASTROPHIC EMERGENCY' CLAUSE? posted August 2, 2011 11:08 AM Submitted by Tyler Durden.
** http://www.politico.com/morningmoney/ ** Politico's Ben White has pointed out something interesting, namely that .....while the 14th Amendment may or may not be practical under the current situation (especially not without a full blown constitutional crisis), one potential loophole that Obama may have, comes from none other than former president Bush, in the form of the Homeland Security Presidential Directive-20, one which deals with such trivia as "Catastrophic Emergency", "Continuity of Government", "Continuity of Operations", and lastly, and perhaps somewhat ironically, "Enduring Constitutional Government." Considering the amount of doom and gloom spun by the government is bigger than anything seen even under Hank Paulson, could this "crisis" be interpreted by the constitutional scholar, as one that merits the invocation of Homeland Security privileges? Is America's maxing out its credit card comparable to a nuclear or terrorist attack on the continent? We may find out in less than 48 hours. So, for your reading pleasure, here is National Security, and Homeland Security, Presidential Directive 51/20
NATIONAL SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/NSPD 51
HOMELAND SECURITY PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTIVE/HSPD-20
Subject: National Continuity Policy .....(.....)
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/obamas-final-loohole-catastrophic-emergency-clause AND
http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/government/homeland_security_patriot_act_fema/news.php?q=1312304900 ///////// http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_archive/ FOR MORE.

Anonymous said...

Debt limit is NOT what it was about .. Council Of 13, To Rule America!! Posted By: Susoni Date: Wednesday, 3-Aug-2011 00:00:44
How many of you think the latest bill was about the debt limit? It was about nothing less than the destruction of the United States Congress. If they were not before, they are now totally irrelevant. It was about handing dictatorial control to Obama and his buddies.
How much will you take before you stand up? .../// Council Of 13 To Rule America:
http://www.paulstramer.net/2011/08/council-of-13-to-rule-america.html 4 videos on this link // Playing with Fire on the debt limit!
http://www.paulstramer.net/2011/07/playing-with-fire-on-debt-limit-we-are.html
Articles In This Thread Debt limit is NOT what it was about .. Council Of 13 To Rule America!! (views: 220) Susoni -- Wednesday, 3-Aug-2011 00:00:44 We will have to hope Ron Paul or someone can persuade the Supreme Court to rule this unconstitutional (views: 9) MrFusion -- Wednesday, 3-Aug-2011 00:55:14
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=211833 .............and............. TUESDAY, AUGUST 2, 2011 Council Of 13 To Rule America. The debt limit fiasco was not about debt. It was about who will rule the new USSA (United Soviet Socialist America). New "Super Congress" is totally Unconstitutional.
Super Congress Dictatorship, Red Alert. Treason: House Turns it’s Powers Over To Obama. Why The Republic Is Dying!! Bankers Abolish Congress!! Infowars Special Report: Super-Congress Paves ‘Super Highway’ to Gun Control.
This evil power grab is out in the open. Freedom dies not with a bang, but a bureaucratic whimper. Please warn whoever you can; the enemy is moving fast! http://www.infowars.com/council-of-13-to-rule-america/
Posted by Paul Stramer at 6:18 PM
http://www.paulstramer.net/2011/08/council-of-13-to-rule-america.html
.............and.......... FRIDAY, JULY 29, 2011 Playing with Fire on the debt limit! We are already in default. Ron Paul: Let's Admit It, the Country Is Bankrupt! Ron Paul's Debt Solution: Bring the Troops Home, Fire UselessBureaucrats, Phase Out Entitlements.
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Anonymous said...

INSIDE THE MIND OF THE MAN WHO CONTROLS OBAMA - IMPORTANT!!! Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 9:18 AM This is serious folks. America stands at the brink of an abyss. Please take the time to read this. It's always been said, in order to solve the crime, all you need to do is "follow the money". Well, my friend, here is the "source" of ALL of the money. What truly amazes me is if this article is true, why isn't something being done, to rid this disease. Are there really that many people "on the take" under this man's thumb, that have had enough control over their lives ?? ...... THE REAL GEORGE SOROS.... INSIDE THE MIND OF THE MAN WHO CONTROLS OBAMA ...... RESEARCHED BY CBS'S STEVE KROFT. If you have wondered where Obama came from and just how he quickly moved from obscurity to President, or why the media is "selective" in what we are told, here is the man who most probably put him there, and is responsible. He controls President Obama's every move. ...... Who is Obama? Obama is a puppet and here is the explanation of the man .... that pulls his strings. It's not by chance that Obama can manipulate the world. After reading this and Obama's reluctance to accept help on the oil spill, you wonder if the spill is part of the plan to destroy the US? ..... Who Is George Soros? He brought the market down in 2 days. Here is what CBS' Mr. Steve Kroft's research has turned up. It's a bit of a read, and it took 4 months to put it together. ....(....) A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch.com. ... Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now. People have been warning us. Two years ago, news sources reported that "Soros is an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous." In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, "Soros uses his philanthropy, to change or more accurately, deconstruct the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people. His "open society" is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of a PROGRESSIVE ideology of rights and entitlements." Perhaps the most important of these "whistle blowers" are David Horowitz and Richard Poe. Their book The Shadow Party outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel. ...... The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which recently became the Obama Administration. DiscoverTheNetworks.org (another good source) writes, "By his [Soros'] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia , Georgia , and Yugoslavia . When Soros targets a country for "regime change," he begins by creating a shadow government, a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power, when the opportunity arises. ..... /in/The November 2008 edition of the German magazine Der Spiegel, .... Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS (President of the U. S. ) should do after taking office. .... Without Soros' money, would the Saul Alinsky's Chicago machine still be rolling? Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities? Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government? .......// From: RB To:bellringer@fourwinds10.com Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:03 PM http://www.truthwinds.com/siterun_data/government/new_world_order/news.php?q=1312304574

Anonymous said...

U.S. Canadian Border Stations Being Constructed... to Keep Americans from Fleeing to Canada? Maybe We'd Better Flee Now.
Posted By: RumorMail [Send E-Mail] Date: Wednesday, 3-Aug-2011 22:11:56
Pastor Baldwin and Alex Jones did a show together earlier this week. The following is an email RMN received regarding the show.
Pastor Baldwin is reporting that a busy large scale program of constructing US-Canada border stations (US side) is going on. These stations are heavy, fortified, have large detention facilities, and are heavily armed, reports pastor Baldwin. Alex speculates (and it seems logical to me) that once the dictatorship bursts into full public view in the U.S., these militarized border stations, will have the function of preventing Americans from fleeing to Canada. And given that the Obama regime's new 12-member "Super Congress" (6 reps, 6 sens) has just been voted in, the hammer may be about to drop. According to Alex, who has read the news items, this new and very un-Constitutional oligarchy has absolute say, over what Congress does, and can reject what the full Congress votes. They alone are allowed to initiate bills, killing the past authority of the full House and Senate. A classic Hitler/Stalin oligarchy. Wow. Eleanor http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=211910 ..

Anonymous said...

...part1/2........alcuin.......W.Hat27......
Bill Clinton attempts to kickstart Iraqi Dinar revaluation. Thirty billion new US Dollars, printed by Bank of England in UK, diverted by Jamie Dimon through Guatemala to Citibank, Chicago. Barack Obama opens big new family bank accounts in Sao Paulo and Brasilia (Brazil). Prominent individuals said to be involved in enabling the covert capital flows include George Bush Jnr, Timothy Geithner and Paul Sagae (or Sigue? - the Bush syndicate's Connecticut Trustee). A related papertrail threads through the Vatican Bank. It is understood that the scam has an operational connection with the Ed Falcone funds theft, and with the disbursement of The World Global Settlement Funds.
FROM http://alcuinbramerton.blogspot.com/ .........................and................
August 5, 2011 - WHITE HATS REPORT #27 UPDATE: First Settlement Payment for 30 Billion Completed, And Clinton, Obama, Bush Jr. and Geithner ..... Take It For Personal Accounts. Early this week Obama made a phone call and gave the order, to settle with Ed Falcone. That’s the financial fraud situation we have talked about, where Bush Sr., Romney, Herzog and their gang of associates, stole Falcone’s 700 million dollars. This is the situation were the Federal Bureau of Investigation have buried Falcone’s complaints in the “Bush-directed-us-ignore-this” file. Well, apparently our reporting of this matter not only accurate, but has uncomfortably exposed our former leaders, as it was directed by Bush Sr to Obama, to pay him off to get him out of their hair. Obama travels to Chicago for his Birthday bash/fundraiser and in the middle of the bash, gets a call from William Jefferson Clinton, who has managed to make his way to the United States Treasury in Washington D.C. While at the Treasury, Clinton orders a conference call with George W. Bush, Timothy Geithner and our President Barrack Obama, who’s in Chicago. Clinton wanted to have the Iraqi Dinar revalue sooner than later, so he negotiated a deal wherein if Obama would order the Iraqi Dinar revaluation sooner, he would arrange the immediate wire transfer of the first payment on the Settlements, to be wire transferred to a bank in Guatemala, which then would immediately be wire transfer the funds to a Chicago bank, for use in a High Yield Trading Program for the benefits of the Bushes, Geithner and Obama’s famous offshore bank accounts. So, with the deal agreed to the following, occurred. The order was processed by Geithner, using his position as Secretary of the Treasury, and the US Treasury facilities, to move 30 Billion Dollars, using new US Dollars printed in England. The movement of this money was approved and coordinated by the Connecticut Trustee, Paul Sagae, a long time associate of Bush Sr...... and Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase under the disguise of paying Ed Falcone immediately, but this is not what happened.

Anonymous said...

....part2.............. The order and instructions went through The Vatican Bank, but Jamie Dimon routed the 30 Billion Dollars through Central America (Guatemala), and arrived in the United States mid week in CitiBank, Chicago. At this time they put the funds into a high yield trading program, utilizing the accounts “tear sheet” to commence the trading program. Not so amazingly, Obama was once again in position to handle the transaction, when the funds arrived in Chicago. Under the disguise of paying Falcone, they cleverly diverted 30 Billion Dollars from the US Treasury, and stole from each American citizen, for their own greedy personal gain. The details at this time are continuing to be investigated. The proper worldwide authorities, as our authorities, are virtually impotent to handle these matters.
In other news, to the shock and alarm of Falcone's investigators, as of today they have tabulated Obama's foreign accounts already reported to be in excess of 10 Billion Dollars including new bank accounts in Sao Paulo and Brasilia, Brazil. They are still not finished tabulating, investigating, and do not know yet where all these funds were derived from. Not bad for two (2) years in the Presidency making a $425,000 salary as a Government employee. We will update you as more information becomes available, and when the Global Settlements continue. Posted by The White Hat Reporters at 9:19pm
http://tdarkcabal.blogspot.com/2011/08/august-4-2011-white-hats-report-27.html
................and..................
Obama, Biden, Geithner, and Rahm all implicated in ... - www.dailypaul.com › Forums › Current Events › Economy - 27 Jun 2010 – In the evening of June 24, a video tele-conference between the “company” [the CIA] and the Connecticut Trustee, Paul Sigue, regarding the ...// http://www.dailypaul.com/138740/obama-biden-geithner-and-rahm-all-implicated-in-high-treason-and-fraud /// http://www.worldreports.org/news/294_obama_lies_and_double_crosses_the_g_8_and_g_20 // ..

Anonymous said...

August 6, 2011 Run On US-European Banks, Brings World To Brink Of War.
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers. A shocking Russian Finance Ministry report prepared for Prime Minister Putin, is warning today that massive liquidity runs on American and European financial institutions over the past fortnight, are in danger of collapsing the entire global economic system, leaving war as the only “option” for the West, to use to protect itself, from complete obliteration. According to this report, the genesis of this current crisis began on 20 July, when the United States Federal Reserve Bank began calling in, nearly all of the zero-interest loans it had secretly made to American and European banks between December 2007 and June 2010, that the first ever audit of the US Government Accountability Office, discovered was a staggering $16 Trillion! The reason for the US Federal Reserve calling in these $16 Trillion worth of loans, this report continues, was due to the American political leadership classes’ failure to address their nations shocking debt of nearly $15 Trillion, and when coupled with their unfunded liability claims of over $114 Trillion, is further warned will soon bring the greatest economic power on earth to economic ruin, and hence drag the rest of the world, down with it. The United States “charade” of reaching their so-called “deal” on raising their debt limit, thus prompting the US Federal Reserve to act, .....caused Putin to declare this past week that the Americans have now become a “parasite” on the global economy, due to their Congress passing a bill, signed by Obama, that cuts nothing from their budget,and, instead, “limits” the increase of their future spending. According to the respected American anti-war activist Justin Raimondo about this dept farce foisted upon the citizens of his country, and in his column titled Why Is America Committing Suicide?, ….. “Only in Washington, D.C., is a “cut” ...actually an increase.”
.... So overburdened have American banks become with excess cash from their elite customers, that the Bank of New York Mellon on Thursday took the extraordinary step of telling its large clients, it was going to start charging them to hold cash, and which, of course, caused a record amount of US Dollars to flow into Brazil, seeking protection from the greater chaos soon to come....... the only way capitalistic systems are able to survive, is through war, and according to the experts now, it is coming much sooner than later....... And to how close this war is, we can ascertain from Russia's envoy to NATO, Dmitry Rogozin, who yesterday warned that the United States and its Western allies, are planning a military campaign against Syria, to help overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad with the long-reaching goal, of preparing a beachhead for an attack on Iran, and which, of course, would start World War III, as neither Moscow or Beijing will allow this to happen. ...... In fact, to what is happening today, we first warned about in our 28 June 2007 report titled “US Banking Collapse ‘Imminent’ Warns French Banking Giant,” when the price of gold was barely $400 an ounce.... we can only tell you it still isn’t too late to protect yourself and your family. But you first must stop listening to the lies! © August 6, 2011 EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com. http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1509.htm
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Anonymous said...

Source says they were taken out, so they won't come back to the US - ....(....) Posted By: Rayelan [Send E-Mail] Date: Saturday, 6-Aug-2011 23:26:17 Naturally this is going to be blamed on the Taliban, but my source ..... says that a US shoulder held missile, took out the helicopter. There were 5 civilians on board. The guess is... they were CIA who had probably been captured, and Seal Team 6 rescued them. Why is someone killing SEALS?...... Source said that these men could come back to the US, and become leaders of a resistance movement. I wonder how many more special ops guys are going to be killed. All it takes is one of them in each community, and you have a resistance that is as powerful as any army that can be thrown at the American people. A few days ago I was talking with a reader, who told me that the national guard in his state, is made up of patriots. When TS..HitsTFan the National Guard armories will be under the control of the good guys... and the first order of business is to empty it completely, so the government can't come in and bomb the hell out of it. Frankly... if I were them... I would clean it out now, because the government will destroy the armories, before they declare war. I hope he reads this, since I can't remember his name. I am not sure if SEALS and other Special Ops people can resign... and walk away... if you know a SpecOps... you might let him/her know what is really coming down... The people of the United States need these men and women at home. We are the ones who need to be protected... NOT from the Taliban... FROM our government who works for the reptiles in the City of London. What ever happened to General McCrystal? IMO he was one of the good guys, and Obama had to get rid of him, or McCrystal could have carried out a coup and the military would have backed him completely. Folks... we are in for a fight. If you haven't made plans for your survival... you'd better start now. I have been telling you this for years now... I will also tell you that THEY will not win. A new world is coming... but it is NOT the one that the reptiles planned for us. We are going to win... we were created to win. Our Father rewrote the plan, and the meek really will inherit the earth. But we will lose a lot of you, during the next few years. And don't think that defeating Obama in 2012, is going to change anything. ... (....) Of course Ron Paul would be the best... any idea how to get his elected this time? Governments worldwide will be changing in the next 3 to 5 years. Hopefully, at the end of the 5 years... the change will be completed and we can walk into our new world... free energy... lots of free time for our own spiritual growth... no religions... NO... I did NOT say no GOD... I said NO religions. The reptiles have controlled all religions for about the last 2000 years. ALL of them......(.....) Watch the newspapers for more SEALS and Special Ops people being killed. And if you know these people... warn them that their very government is so afraid of them, they want them DEAD. Articles In This Thread: U.S. HELICOPTER. REVENGE? OR SOMETHING MORE? (views: 1358)
food4thought -- Saturday, 6-Aug-2011 13:25:46
Source says they were taken out, so they won't come back to the US - CAN YOU SAY RESISTANCE? (views: 277) Rayelan -- Saturday, 6-Aug-2011 23:26:17 FROM: http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=212137 AND
http://www.rumormillnews.com/ For More. ..