Late
Thurs.PM/Early Fri.AM Dinar Chatter and Opinions
10/04/2013
Early Friday Morning:
TNT:
[tbones] IMO the timing that makes the most sense to me to bring out the GCR is on Friday at 3:47 PM EST. Why? 1) All banks are open, 2) The worldwide FOREX and financial markets are all still on-line and aligned at that time and typically receive updates during that last fifteen minute of the market being open for the week, 3) Other major currency changes (e.g., Venezuela’s devaluation), have been announced in this window, 4) it gives time for markets to prepare/adjust for Monday (opening 5 PM EST Sunday) especially with large changes expected in a few currencies, 5) it maximizes the time the US banks have to distribute 800 numbers, set appointments and begin exchanges while minimizing retail banking disruption, and 6) Friday afternoon is typically outside the major news cycle and is when news is buried. Maybe today.
[swellguy] tbones I mostly agree but wouldnt you think the second the banks close on Saturday would be best so people don't bother banks on Saturday.... that gives 30 some hours for the 800 numbers to go viral and if people have appointments before monday... they will be less likely to bother banks on monday....
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TNT:
[tbones] IMO the timing that makes the most sense to me to bring out the GCR is on Friday at 3:47 PM EST. Why? 1) All banks are open, 2) The worldwide FOREX and financial markets are all still on-line and aligned at that time and typically receive updates during that last fifteen minute of the market being open for the week, 3) Other major currency changes (e.g., Venezuela’s devaluation), have been announced in this window, 4) it gives time for markets to prepare/adjust for Monday (opening 5 PM EST Sunday) especially with large changes expected in a few currencies, 5) it maximizes the time the US banks have to distribute 800 numbers, set appointments and begin exchanges while minimizing retail banking disruption, and 6) Friday afternoon is typically outside the major news cycle and is when news is buried. Maybe today.
[swellguy] tbones I mostly agree but wouldnt you think the second the banks close on Saturday would be best so people don't bother banks on Saturday.... that gives 30 some hours for the 800 numbers to go viral and if people have appointments before monday... they will be less likely to bother banks on monday....
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[Yme] and the new gold backed
currency comes on line Tuesday
[shelby1999] Loechin, said there will be no more all banks closed or opend , tues- thurs. And all that crap. :-)
[lightman] Yme technically that full value could happen at midnight Iraq which is 5 US.....
[Chia] saw a post that October 1 thru October 7 is National Day holiday in China. They call it their "Golden Week" and it is very popular, important, etc. Maybe this will be a good time to RV
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[shelby1999] Loechin, said there will be no more all banks closed or opend , tues- thurs. And all that crap. :-)
[lightman] Yme technically that full value could happen at midnight Iraq which is 5 US.....
[Chia] saw a post that October 1 thru October 7 is National Day holiday in China. They call it their "Golden Week" and it is very popular, important, etc. Maybe this will be a good time to RV
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Emailed to Recaps:
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/shla2012r.pdf
This is the UST list of foreign held securites.
If you look closely, you find Iraq lumped in with the middle east accounting.
To compliment the Blackbird post. The US does infact hold Iraq dinar, and the numbers do not show percentage of total holdings, but it will be significant post revaluation.
DinarProof
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StraightTalkChat:
[jetdriver2]from Blackbird136... RV to happen, a cover for where the Trillions of dollars is going to come from for Obama to finish out his term as the “hero”. As a practical matter, the Treasury could just make the Fed to credit the US Treasury $25 trillion fiat bucks electromically since money is made out of thin air and the M3 is not reported.
It made me laugh to hear Christine LeGarde gloss over the $550 trillion in derivatives as if it was a small, but workable problem…that’s cause it’s the PTB way of crediting themselves and minions with trillions, legally… For those who don’t get it, there is about $22.6 billion in U.S. Government securities, $14.2 billion in EURO denominated foreign currencies and $9.4 billion in yen denominated foreign currencies being held by the Fed of NY in the Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF). Together with the $58.7 billion in the Special Drawing Rights of the IMF , the ESF has about $100 billion available to the US Treasury for emergency situations to aid other governments.
A loop hole seems to allow those funds to be used for the US Government, if the president and congress agree. Looking at the financing statements shows that the dinar (if they have any! I pray they do!) must be part of the $14.2 billion Euro denominated foreign currency held in the foreign central banks. If only 7% of that is dinar, then that’s about 1 Trillion dinar that the EFS is holding (again that is just a guess, could be more could be less).
I mean what other currencies are they holding besides EUROs in the remaining 93%? Anyway, the theory is that since there is no exchange rate being shown while the shut down is on, we can have an RV and then those 1.1 Trillion dinar at a revalued price of $25.87 gives the US Treasury $28.5 trillion to help the cause!
Even at $3.86, thats $ 3.86 trillion nothing to sneeze at... So this gives Lew and Obama quite a bit of funds to play around with to fund Obama Care, pay down the debt and run the government…Do you think when it happens that Lew will be telling anyone how much was made on paper?
But they need an accounting trail for that and the RV of the EFS held dinar will be the “smoking gun” for why the Obama administration was able to get us back on track.. All IMHO …
I think the RV is here and will happen very, very soon like this week…it may “only” be $3.86 though and probably less than $10.00…personally if its 50 cents I will run to the bank! God Bless BB136
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http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/shla2012r.pdf
This is the UST list of foreign held securites.
If you look closely, you find Iraq lumped in with the middle east accounting.
To compliment the Blackbird post. The US does infact hold Iraq dinar, and the numbers do not show percentage of total holdings, but it will be significant post revaluation.
DinarProof
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StraightTalkChat:
[jetdriver2]from Blackbird136... RV to happen, a cover for where the Trillions of dollars is going to come from for Obama to finish out his term as the “hero”. As a practical matter, the Treasury could just make the Fed to credit the US Treasury $25 trillion fiat bucks electromically since money is made out of thin air and the M3 is not reported.
It made me laugh to hear Christine LeGarde gloss over the $550 trillion in derivatives as if it was a small, but workable problem…that’s cause it’s the PTB way of crediting themselves and minions with trillions, legally… For those who don’t get it, there is about $22.6 billion in U.S. Government securities, $14.2 billion in EURO denominated foreign currencies and $9.4 billion in yen denominated foreign currencies being held by the Fed of NY in the Exchange Stabilization Fund (ESF). Together with the $58.7 billion in the Special Drawing Rights of the IMF , the ESF has about $100 billion available to the US Treasury for emergency situations to aid other governments.
A loop hole seems to allow those funds to be used for the US Government, if the president and congress agree. Looking at the financing statements shows that the dinar (if they have any! I pray they do!) must be part of the $14.2 billion Euro denominated foreign currency held in the foreign central banks. If only 7% of that is dinar, then that’s about 1 Trillion dinar that the EFS is holding (again that is just a guess, could be more could be less).
I mean what other currencies are they holding besides EUROs in the remaining 93%? Anyway, the theory is that since there is no exchange rate being shown while the shut down is on, we can have an RV and then those 1.1 Trillion dinar at a revalued price of $25.87 gives the US Treasury $28.5 trillion to help the cause!
Even at $3.86, thats $ 3.86 trillion nothing to sneeze at... So this gives Lew and Obama quite a bit of funds to play around with to fund Obama Care, pay down the debt and run the government…Do you think when it happens that Lew will be telling anyone how much was made on paper?
But they need an accounting trail for that and the RV of the EFS held dinar will be the “smoking gun” for why the Obama administration was able to get us back on track.. All IMHO …
I think the RV is here and will happen very, very soon like this week…it may “only” be $3.86 though and probably less than $10.00…personally if its 50 cents I will run to the bank! God Bless BB136
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Late Thursday Night:
TNT:
[loechin] I hear this week, hope my hearing is right. Still hearing Tony's rates. WOW all the info coming in today has been amazing. Read Eagle1, Tony, and Bluwolf, and you will get most of the info. As of this very moment the rates are still in the $25 plus change, and I think we will see the VNN at $3 plus. Seems like the closer we get someone wants to push the date back well not this time. It can and I believe will go any moment. It's no longer going to be banks closed or open, Tues-Thur stuff. This is off the table now and we are waiting for any second.
FLPatriot59] Here's my "take" on the banks opening/closing: it has been said the RV roll-out would occur "east to west." That being the case, it could start on the east coast when banks here are closed and roll westward as banks in different time zones close, ending in Hawaii (which would get the roll-out last). In this scneario all banks would be closed when they receive the updated rate authorizations and the time-zone rollout would allow them time to check systems after hours as they go. Just my opinion.
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MIG:
[xyz] Lew is scheduled to appear on NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox and CBS, according to a Treasury official. The interviews will come just 11 days before the Oct. 17 deadline for Congress to boost the country’s borrowing limit.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/jack-lew-sunday-shows-97814.html
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StraightTalkChat:
[cman8] Regardless guys I think tomorrow is not only going to be revealing but I think when tomorrow comes around we will be at the banks because like Tony has said to us, they watch these chats. they see what we talk about and what intel comes in. Once they see what we will know after tomorrow, they will be exposed..
[cman8] Guys we need extra prayer tonight :) because tomorrow could be a very big day. With all this solid info coming in from Eagle1, Exogen, Tony...30MDinar...we're looking good I think tomorrow is very promising..
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TNT:
[loechin] I hear this week, hope my hearing is right. Still hearing Tony's rates. WOW all the info coming in today has been amazing. Read Eagle1, Tony, and Bluwolf, and you will get most of the info. As of this very moment the rates are still in the $25 plus change, and I think we will see the VNN at $3 plus. Seems like the closer we get someone wants to push the date back well not this time. It can and I believe will go any moment. It's no longer going to be banks closed or open, Tues-Thur stuff. This is off the table now and we are waiting for any second.
FLPatriot59] Here's my "take" on the banks opening/closing: it has been said the RV roll-out would occur "east to west." That being the case, it could start on the east coast when banks here are closed and roll westward as banks in different time zones close, ending in Hawaii (which would get the roll-out last). In this scneario all banks would be closed when they receive the updated rate authorizations and the time-zone rollout would allow them time to check systems after hours as they go. Just my opinion.
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MIG:
[xyz] Lew is scheduled to appear on NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox and CBS, according to a Treasury official. The interviews will come just 11 days before the Oct. 17 deadline for Congress to boost the country’s borrowing limit.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/jack-lew-sunday-shows-97814.html
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StraightTalkChat:
[cman8] Regardless guys I think tomorrow is not only going to be revealing but I think when tomorrow comes around we will be at the banks because like Tony has said to us, they watch these chats. they see what we talk about and what intel comes in. Once they see what we will know after tomorrow, they will be exposed..
[cman8] Guys we need extra prayer tonight :) because tomorrow could be a very big day. With all this solid info coming in from Eagle1, Exogen, Tony...30MDinar...we're looking good I think tomorrow is very promising..
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Jester's Place:
[ModelWoman] Jester Have you got this all figured out yet.........and can we get inside your head and hear how you got this all figured to play out? ;)
[Jester] ModelWoman AS MUCH AS I THINK ANYONE HAS... I BEEN TELLING IT FOR SOME WEEKS NOW... HAHAHA...
[angelheart] Jester we need the blueprint with the fine details could we put your head on the copier for that ?
[Jester] angelheart NOPE... THAT WOULD BREAK THE COPIER... HAHAHA
[lulu] Jester I keep expecting good news from you!
[Jester] lulu I BRING GOOD NEWS ALL THE TIME... IT IS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE...
[ModelWoman] Jester I guess I have missed then..... I've only heard not till later Oct or first part of Nov....what all will transpire by then as the way you see it?
[Jester] ModelWoman THAT IS THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN TELLING IT FOR SOME WEEKS NOW... HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD ANY REASON TO CHANGE YET...
[ModelWoman] Jester Have you got this all figured out yet.........and can we get inside your head and hear how you got this all figured to play out? ;)
[Jester] ModelWoman AS MUCH AS I THINK ANYONE HAS... I BEEN TELLING IT FOR SOME WEEKS NOW... HAHAHA...
[angelheart] Jester we need the blueprint with the fine details could we put your head on the copier for that ?
[Jester] angelheart NOPE... THAT WOULD BREAK THE COPIER... HAHAHA
[lulu] Jester I keep expecting good news from you!
[Jester] lulu I BRING GOOD NEWS ALL THE TIME... IT IS A MATTER OF PERSPECTIVE...
[ModelWoman] Jester I guess I have missed then..... I've only heard not till later Oct or first part of Nov....what all will transpire by then as the way you see it?
[Jester] ModelWoman THAT IS THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN TELLING IT FOR SOME WEEKS NOW... HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD ANY REASON TO CHANGE YET...
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