When it comes to officer-involved shootings, the problem lies with law
enforcement’s training that instructs cops to say they felt the suspects
were a threat, either to the officers or to the public, a retired US
Marshal told RT.
Retired Chief Deputy US Marshal Matthew Fogg, who served as a law
enforcement officer for 32 years, spoke with RT’s Ben Swann about the
recent spate of officer-involved shootings in which police killed
unarmed suspects and claimed they feared for their safety or for the
safety of others. He said the officers’ training is to blame.
“The training says that, whenever you use deadly force, you have to
be able to justify it. So to justify it, you have to say either I
feared for the safety of myself or the safety of the public, and that
this person was an extreme danger to either party,” Fogg said.
In two recent cases – that of Officer Darren Wilson’s shooting and
killing of unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, in
August and Saturday’s incident in South Carolina, where North Charleston
Officer Michael Slager fatally shot unarmed Walter Scott eight times in
the back – both policemen said they feared for themselves and public
safety. This despite the fact that the physical altercations ‒ and thus
the threats ‒ had abated.
Fogg doesn’t believe the officers were wrong in pursuing their suspects
in either case, but does think that their fears may not have been
justified.
“We can pursue you as a law enforcement officer, but the deadly force was over once there was no weapon involved,” he said. “There
was no reason at all for this officer [in South Carolina] to be
shooting at [Scott]. Now he could have ran [sic] and chased and tracked
him down, and if there had been some melee at that point ‒ guy tried to
take his gun ‒ then yeah.”
The difference between the two cases, in which Wilson was not indicted
but Slager has been charged with murder, is that there was video of the
second incident, Fogg noted.
“I think what happened here is now once these officers ‒ when
there’s no video ‒ can always say that [there was a threat], and that’s
what the public outcry has been, that a lot of incidents where people
realize folks were shot and killed, there [were] no weapons involved or
whatever, so why did the officer shoot him?” Fogg said.
When Swann asked if the story would be very different in the South
Carolina instance if there had there been no video recording, Fogg
immediately agreed.
“Absolutely. Certainly. And that’s the problem, that’s why public
outcry has been body cameras, videos. It is because [as] officers, we
are trained to say whenever we use deadly force that line, ‘I felt a
danger for myself or for the public,’” he said.
Fogg then explained how the investigations into officer-involved shootings proceed.
“You have 10 days to think about your story, get your story
together. You hear from other detectives, what they came up with, and
then you come up with a line that is pretty standard that says, ‘This is
my justification,’” he said. “And most of the time, the public is going to go with my ‒ as a law enforcement officer, they’re going to believe me.”
He believes that body cameras, if they are treated the same way
dashboard cameras are ‒ meaning they automatically switch on during
interactions ‒ will help show when officers truly are justified in
shooting suspects.
http://rt.com/usa/248081-cops-trained-justify-shooting-suspects/
Monday, April 27, 2015
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