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Can lightworker please answer me this.
IF we get past december 21 2012 and the current system is still in place. The cabal are still actively working against us. There has been no great spiritual awakening. Nobody has come up from hollow earth. No prosperity funds. No meaningful change to our oppressive global economic system. No ET contact.No mass arrests. etc etc etc.
Will you give back all the money from the lightworkers fund or charges for webinars?
Will you apologize to everyone?
OR
Will you move the goal posts as always and say the real date is 2013 or 2014 with many excuses?
I am not against you in any way. In fact the message you preach is a wonderful 1. But I would like to see some real proof and lets face it you have provided nothing concrete. You can talk about universal law but in my opinion if these ET's can use channels, spray nanotech on the cabal and turn off nukes. Then they can provide real concrete proof that this message is correct. I have seen many channeled messages and predictions that have been completely and utterly wrong. I have also witnessed the many odd and non-plausible excuses that followed.
This is a message to our star family. Please provide us with some cast iron proof that these guys are not in it for what they can get.
Please show me that my hard work trying to expose the corruption within our financial system. That the friends I have lost or the people I have alienated from my self are wrong and I am right.
Give me some proof that I can put my faith in you to aid me providing a future for my children.
Just do something. Anything to make these guys plausible.
Because as it stands your complete lack of tangible proof only serves to slow awakening and slow progress because if people think there are god like beings that will do all the work for them. They will not fight!
I am sorry if I have offended anyone.
Sunday, September 9, 2012
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Give me some proof that I can put my faith in you to aid me providing a future for my children.
You have no faith to hang a hat on. You are to put your faith in God...not man.
No one is perfect. No apologizes will be needed or are needed now. You must do the work for yourself and know for yourself. You must meditate and ask God these questions you have. Stop relying on man!
They probably won't answer you but I will. These so called ETs are nothing more than the same old Evil Spirits that have always lied to and decieved humans. They used to be called Familier Spirits, and spoke through mediums, oracles and soothsayers the same way that is now called "channeling." They are also called demons, which in greek merely means "intellegent." Sometimes what they predict comes true, but usually it doesnt. They just want to decieve you, and they have an agenda, but what that agenda is, only they know. But its not good. The people who channel them are usually just decieved, but sometimes they know the truth. Nothing they say can be believed. I first became aware of these "channelers" back in the 70's, and the stories they told then were about the same as now, and none of their bullshit ever came about. Probably not what you wanted to hear, but if your counting on them for help, it ain't gonna happen. Sorry to burst your bubble, but someone needs to. I'm glad someone burst mine because when I first heard their tall tales, I was decieved too. It sounded so wonderful, and the "channelers" seemed so sincere. Luckly, my older brother knew more about these things than I did and straightened me out. Just trying to do the same for you and others who are also decieved. PLease take this in the spirit in which it was intended, because we can't count on them to save us, even if they wanted to, which they don't.
Excellent question. Now, lets us see their response.
What I am really interested in knowing is WHO is going to carry the torch for the present lightworkers ? Obviously that plan of being nice to the cabal will never work.
Nearly 25% of the 101 people I put in "O" have passed away. Of the remaining 75%, less than half will be able to enjoy their investment returns. They're too old.
This is my group's 20th year. We started funnelling our money into this thing in 1992.
One would have to think that after 20 years at least 25% of the original lightworkers have passed away also. The rest have to be in their 70's and maybe 80's. Do they have someone to carry on for them ?
The bad guys will NEVER give up. Its like, in that horror movie, they think they finally killed that thing but it pops right back up. Obviously, after 100 years in operation, the bad guys have back up.
Might I suggest a silver bullet in the head and a stake in the heart and incineration of the remains ?
Why do you think we need to be saved in the first place. The Lightworkers will not show you something they don't have. Look for the truth you're self. We are the change that we have been waiting. You must first open you're 3rd eye and then the universe will guide you. Don't buy into this doom and gloom propaganda .
Don't expect a response. They will just go on with their false predictions and stories and charge more for their stupid webinars.
They are just like the Dark Cabal.
The way to handle them is to ignore their crap!
glad to see someone is waking to it all [& by all I mean everything from tax to doomsday to e.t. to your birth certificate] being a fraud & it's a shame that people still put their hope into a "god" even "jesus" tells you in the abridged/collected/edited for public consumption fairy tales called the new testament that god is in his temple & the temple is within you. paul has it correct... you are the answer you've been looking for. anybody telling you they have answers is full of it. stop believing in others & start believing in yourself
just how much have you spent on these webinars? you will likely be happier staying in the third, no reason to fight it, just not your time go back to learning all you can but you really don't have to pay for it
Well if it were not for Hopium I would opt for direct line off this miserable Rock (Sorry Gaia) the abuse that has become so prevalent return to source sounds wonderful. I would love to help in any capacity, but I just don't know what to do. No Fear, no quarter for illuminati shit or Archons.
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I have nothing against the poster, but they have 'given away their power'.
To think that money 'given' had to be returned when they gave it of their Free Will and did not impose restrictions on it's use when they gave it, is infantile. We are adults now. We are being forced to grow up if we want the change we seek.
This solar system is old. Cabal don't control the earth. You fell for the 'illusion of control'.
One of those "If I hear this, then I'll be okay." Or "If they say this, then I'll wait to see what happens."
They already know the answers they are looking for when they asked the questions.
If you think the Cabal controls what they didn't create, then you will need -re-education.
If they created the internet, they can leave it on or turn it off. If they created the corporation called UNITED STATES of AMERICA, they can put whoever they want as President. If you join their game you can't change their rules. The game existed before you joined. Who ever heard of people joining the game and changing the rules already in place.
You don't like the game, you can leave. You should know that. They know that.
You can check out by taking your own life, or check out by removing yourself from the game in the ways you added yourself to the game. You added your self when you turned 18 through contracts. So what your parents told you it was the thing to do. When you find out you don't need to do something, it's your job to fix it or correct it. Stop blaming other people on your lack of comprehension.
No one needs to 'take care of you', or help you cheat in life by giving you answers to your future. Get your own crystal ball. Don't get mad if their predictions are wrong. Guess who the predictions belong to? You? Naw...don't you know, it's their prediction, it only belongs to them. Didn't school teach you about ownership? If you didn't create it, unless you bought it, it's not yours. So if you buy their predictions and they don't pan out, then you can keep buying it or stop buying it, or make your own.
There is plenty of food on this land. People want to get it from the 'grocery store'.
Well that's a privilege. If you want to trust that it will always be delivered and that you will always get it from the store or starve, that is your right. There's plenty of land to grow food, and all of it is not razed to the ground by some tractor every 6 months.
There are leafy greens that will grow in a matter of a couple months.
Why aren't there enough Johnny Appleseeds in this world dotting the landscape with food and stopping us from depending on them for our sustenance.
I see them put people out there to put a garden in their front yard to draw attention to their growing something, or collect rain water to draw their attention, or any number of things. We can recognize a false flag of a theater shooting but can't recognize a false flag when it's only one sombody doing it.
It's news worthy when it serves the purpose of the one who controls the news and the station and the employees.
I can grow potatoes in a small space and no one can stop me. If you walk up and say 'don't grow potatoes'. I'd say who are you and by what authority do you tell me this? But no..you will get all scared and say, 'They stopped me from planting potatoes.' Someone will ask you, "Who stopped you?" And you'll give a name of a three letter agency of some kind or some corporation name and say it stopped you. I'd laugh. Because a three letter agency has a lot of employees. Who...........stopped you?
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See the illusion...when they stopped you was it in their power, or the power they were exercising as an employee of some company...because I guarantee you I can't stop you...but I can show you id and you'll believe I can stop you since I work for '''blah blah''' company...but who..in the company has the power to stop you...the CEO? CFG? Secretary? Who? Well why did you stop? If you can't meet the 'who' face to face...then why are you letting their representatives tell you what you can or cannot do?
Why are you letting me and other anonymous people tell you what to think?
It's you...it's always been you.
Your mind is what they want, and these web sites, with the any day now doom and gloom keep you from living it while you 'wait' for the 'event'. You have designated yourself first to know so you can tell everyone...so you troll the internet looking at sites trying to find out if today is the day.
Go out and live. Those asleep are living more than you are. Those illegally here are freer than you are.
Please people. Look at you. What you do, that places you in this situation.
In all honesty this is your creation...you experience what you desire. If you are not getting what you want, check yourself and change your desires.
I would never desire the end of the world in 2012 or 2013 or any other time. There's so much to see and do here that I haven't done yet.
Cabal controls what you believe they control.
How silly it sounds, people would believe the cabal control their life, but would look at you crazy if you said they controlled their remote control to the t.v.
It's absurd to think someone you can't see, or hear, and only know about through hearsay controls you and what you can and cannot do.
You get immunized and immunize your family against every little thing they say is a danger. They give you a paper with fine print saying stuff like you can be paralyzed, or have brain damage, or die, or any number of things and you just ignore it. You take the shot and then find out they have a plan to kill people and you want to get mad? Ah..well...didn't you help them by taking something that could KILL you? You decided to take that chance.
It will always be you.
That's why there can be no mass arrests. Who will you say made 'you' do something. Last I checked Obama did not kick you out of the home or make you lose your job. He didn't send them overseas either. He appoints people and if they don't do their job you blame him.
Well your kid didn't clean their room, so I blame you. Mass arrest the parents for what their kids didn't do? Not gonna happen.
Stop acting like infants...that's why this is going on. No one can answer the questions unless and until you make them your God and then you better accept whatever answer they give you as to the reason why.....otherwise use your power.
Live..go out and do life...enjoy people...talk to them...we are not all Cabal...show love...we do different things but as with Temple Grandin....people are different not less.
Learn something that wasn't taught to you be me or the internet or t.v. or anyone else.
Love.
Obama ... a socialist who has no respect for the Constitution.
Romney ... a new world order cronie who has no respect for the Constitution.
Either OBAMA or ROMNEY spells nothing but doom and gloom for America and Americans.
The universe must guide a lot more than the 1% who have opened their eyes and educated themselves.
Read your Bible, for crying out loud! Anon.9:30 is right. They are familiar spirits. In the Bible (Deuteronomy?) when the children of Israel asked how they would know if one who prophecied was from God, the answer was "if it comes to pass you will know that he spoke the word of God". If nothing comes to pass all this time, what does it take for you to wake up?
In these upcoming months we are not deciding whether or not to believe these doctrines, because we've already decided. We are here to understand why we decided what we have and to look inside ourselves as sentient units of consciousness.
Amen brothers. See it for what it is: "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." [Macbeth]
Peace to all
Dec 21, 2012 is one of the major timelines and yes, our world is in a constant state of change but its only the beginning!
We are the Co-Creators here on Mother Earth, who is also in the process of ascension...so please be MINDFUL of your thoughts!
Why would you point your finger at our Star Brothers/Sisters for they can not do our work for us.....we, the people, must awaken and get it done accordingly!
PLEASE STOP BASHING our Star Families...
Right now, focus on your own thoughts, your own feelings....and STOP SENDING NEGATIVITY into the ethers which the CABAL FEEDS off of...so please do not play into their hand.
FEAR, NEGATIVE THOUGHTS, CONFUSION - this is the goal of the Cabal!
Watch the documentary, THRIVE - www.thrivemovement.com - which explains what is going on and how we can make the upcoming changes by working together!
Do your part to dis-connect from the matrix!!!
Try the following to improve your life:
move your money into your local credit union;
stop buying on credit;
buy HEALTHY FOOD from local farmers;
unplug from MAIN STREAM MEDIA (MSM);
spend time in nature
MOST IMPORTANTLY - STOP COMPLAINING and GIVE GRATITUDE!
PS:
Continue to ask for divine intervention to protect the true leaders on our planet at this time!
I believe that the changes we await will be seen through eyes that can perceive with "eyes that can see and ears that can hear". That ability comes from life and one's own choices. Because this event/phenomenon is multidimensional, It all depends on the perspective from which one is viewing that determines what one is able to see. It is not linear like we are accustomed to seeing. If one has exercised faith in their life (not faith in a religion but just faith in good always wins because of the physics involved) then that person will know how to recognize the changes and will be able to feel it or see it. Those who have no faithful understanding of it will not. It is a free will choice and those who have chosen (the "chosen ones" being those who have chosen and anyone can) to see it will have the skills to appreciate it when it does occur. If one does not put forth any effort to choose it, then the universe will provide exactly that, nothing. Like watching a movie on an airplane; you can turn it on and watch it or choose to ignore it(base word for ignorance. To ignore = ignorance)and go to sleep (or stay asleep) and have no part in it. Everyone has a different perspective, as we can only experience life from our own history of data input. If one has no expectations/faith/hope of the possibilities now, from this side, then I doubt that person will see anything different. However, that does not mean that others won't. I believe this is what Jesus meant when he said, "judge not, lest ye be judged" from a standpoint of physics. I also believe that the separation of the chafe from the grain refers to this as well, again from a scientific view. When one has done the work, had the faith, or sought to find answers, then your personal vibration rate speeds up and the light shines brighter. When you turn a light on in a dark room, what happens to the darkness? It disappears, goes away, because it is physically impossible for it to exist in the light. The same will be true for those who do not perceive the changes and align with them. Its all in the physics until you see that spirit, the creator, is behind the physics. Understand that what I know as TRUTH can be right for me and not for anyone else. Everyone has their own expression of one TRUTH and the opportunity to experience it. A change in perspective will change the perception. Maybe that is where "seek and ye shall find" comes in. No apology is necessary except from you to yourself if you don't see the changes. Anyone can; not everybody will.
These "Lightworkers" have done more to lull us into complacency while we wait for the big Deux Ex Machina to come and bail us out - it doesn't matter if we are waiting for friendly ETs, the Military, the White Dragon Society, Drake, Cobra or whomever; we are still being passive and waiting. Although Congress and the Senate are bought, blackmailed and bribed or have had their family threatened, if they received thousands of letters or e-mails complaining about their lack of accountability to we the people, it might actually have an impact. Unless they are all clones, most of them want to hang onto their positions (if for no other reason than to continue to line their bank accounts), they are still reliant on public opinion. We read these channelings wanting to believe them because we still want to hope. In the meantime, we have reneged on our responsibilities to try to hold these people accountable. No wonder they continue on and on. It might be too far down the road at this point, but most of us were "awakened" years ago when protest, petitions and letter writing might actually have had an impact. If their plan to kill us via vaccines or FEMA camps comes to fruition, we can explain to our kids and grandkids why we stood by and did nothing - "Gee, sorry but I believed Matthew, Blossom Goodchild, The Magenta Pixie (who comes up with these "Old Hippie" names, anyway?) and other "credible sources" when they told us we were protected and the bad guys were taken down.
I have never given money to these guys. Nor am I waiting to be saved. I am being the change I want to see. I feel you have completely missed the point of my post.
I have seen thrive and it has nothing to do with lightworkers. Your statement "Why would you point your finger at our Star Brothers/Sisters for they can not do our work for us"
I suggest you talk to the channelers because their promises say otherwise.
So now dec 21 2012 is just another point in the timeline. Or a breakthrough date. I can see the goalposts being moved already!
You have hit the nail on the head regarding complacency. The more people they draw in the less real tangible work gets done. This all seems more like a new religion everyday.
Anonymous 11:16AM
I meant no disrespect to you.
I Am another One of You.
I communicate in generalities and apologize if it appeared I was indicating you were looking for more than what you had already stated.
With the utmost respect to you. I hope you will forgive me.
You know it was a lie and so did the people who they told it to...Nano tech...it they did it, then go arrest the lame heads because they can no longer resist...yea a crock of crap...and I to have told so many and lost so many friends and my reliability is now in check because of them...liars...then someone gets arrested and they lay claim to it as if the mass arrests are now happening...I wish...why start with someone insignificant...go get the major players
To all of you...the only "deception" is the one you place upon yourself. We are the creators of our own little universes and you create exactly what life you want, whether rich, poor, young, old, white/black, etc. The power comes from within and you make yourself a victim or can liberate yourself through that same power. Nobody needs to tell you right from wrong, not a book, a guru, avatar, a religious figure or otherwise. All you have to do is "believe" this is where faith comes in and live by respect and love for yourself and your neighbor. All the rest follows.
Galactic messages, doctrine, no matter who presents it is just information to help you put together the pieces of your own puzzle. No need to blame anybody for being right or wrong. We create our own happiness or misfortunes.
Great post ! Faith is belief without proof. I have no faith in much of anything, the lies and deceit humans face is real. We all EXPECT to be deceived from the get-go, rarely are we disappointed. With that said, I refer to Galileo : " I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use." I'm NOT going to abandon my god given personal gifts without REAL proof. We can get this ' lightworker ' speil from any used car salesman. It's in your face now 'lightworkers,' 'channelers,' etc. Prove up or shut up, your big chance awaits you. I see 14 + million hits for this page. You have your audience, LIGHTS, CAMERA, PROOF ! TYJM frj
So the complacency in America (and the world) was caused by galactics and channelers? Really? That's your theory? As far as it being a religion, I get the feeling that the galactics would never ask anyone to go out and kill for them, so that gives them a leg up on the other 300 or so religions out there. All they ever talk about is love, light, and free will. The Christians have been waiting for some mythical judgement day or second coming for 1,000's of years and not gotten mad yet. They also seem to do just fine without any tangible proof. Whenever there's a question, they just say go look it up in that book with the talking snakes and bushes.
So I guess the key to a good religion is just not setting a date. Any way if you want to learn how to deal with your disappointment after 12/21/2012...go ask some one from one of the 300 more established religions how they have done it for the last 12,000 years or so.
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