Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Federal Judge Reinstates Unconstitutional NDAA


Federal Judge Reinstates Unconstitutional NDAA



Opponents of NDAA Law:

“This pernicious law poses one of the greatest threats to civil liberties in our nation’s history”


Kurt Nimmo
Infowars.com
September 18, 2012

 
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                        Federal judge Raymond Lohier.

Late Monday night a federal judge in New York, Raymond Lohier, granted the Obama administration an “emergency” stay that temporarily blocks a ruling by U.S. District Judge Katherine Forrest last week blocking the NDAA.

“Lohier offered no explanation or rationale for the temporary stay. However, the Justice Department has asked the appeals court to block the injunction,” Politico reported late last night.

The Obama administration characterized the ruling by Forrest as unconstitutional.

The Justice Department said the ruling was “unprecedented” and argued that the executive has the right under the Constitution to detain anyone indefinitely without due process. The Fifth Amendment specifically mentions due process of law.

The NDAA also violates the “equal protection” clause of the 14th Amendment stating that all people be treated the same under the law.

The federal government argues that the National Defense Authorization Act did not expand its authority beyond what already existed under the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) , as interpreted by judges in Guantánamo Bay habeas corpus cases.

“This pernicious law poses one of the greatest threats to civil liberties in our nation’s history,” writes Brian J. Trautman. Under AUMF, “this law can be used by authorities to detain (forever) anyone the government considers a threat to national security and stability – potentially even demonstrators and protesters exercising their First Amendment rights.”

Documents produced by the Department of Homeland Security and fusion centers and subsequently leaked to the media target numerous organizations and individuals as threats to national security — including supporters of Ron Paul, returning veterans, and other “rightwing extremists.”

In the months ahead, the NDAA will likely become an invaluable tool for the government as the economy finally topples over a cliff and a violent conflagration engulfs the Middle East. Iran has promised to shut down the flow of oil out of the region if the United States and Israel invade. This would undoubtedly have a devastating effect on the world economy and would result in massive protests against the government.



13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Breaking News! Tim Turner indicted for fraud and tax evasion. Now who would have thought? The NDAA is in full control. Goodbye to your sovereignty. Check it out at www.justice.gov. So much for your Republic of the united states.

Anonymous said...

Here is some logic for you... they say it is unconstitutional to vote down something that is unconstitutional.... duh!!!! hows that??? If you want to see what a STUPID TRAITOR commie bastard looks like look at Lohier... almost a clone of Obama. THEY ARE REALLY WANTING TO PUSH US UNTIL THEY GET WHAT THEY HAVE COMING..... BRING ON A FEW MILLION FORIEGN TROOPS.... 100 PLUS MILLION HIGH CALIBER HUNTING RIFLES WILL WIPE THEM OUT IN SHORT ORDER AND THEY KNOW IT...

Anonymous said...

I say, get a rope.

Anonymous said...

When did the rest of us get due process for having our property, social security, and retirements stolen by people who have access to 'purchase their own due process with credits'.

This is a victory for the NEW as we wipe out the old oppressive system and hold those accountable for force people to do acts, and causing false flags.

Indefinite detention of those who this system knows are the trouble makers making the rest of us 'debt slaves', which is also against the constitution.

Of course, someone who sees life as a glass half empty will not share in my glass half full philosophy but I don't expect anyone too.

I just felt like stating a side that would not be stated otherwise.

Anonymous said...

There's really no reason for all this BS. There is a man who is an Einstein in economics who can fix this whole economic situation. Get rid of the stupid people who are running our government into the ground. Or maybe it's not really our government. It's a bunch of thugs trying to rip off all of the people and bully them around.

Anonymous said...

BASTARDS!!!!

Anonymous said...

Bastards??? No!
He is biggest BUSTARD in Universe!
Low life man...

Anonymous said...

I second this scenario...I beleive this law will become a two edge sword to be used to arrest and detain members and their collaborators of the banking cartel...somebody is just twisting this laws meaning to stur further unress.

Anonymous said...

Hey mimute man when the fuck are you going to activate the militia? The militia has been castrated due to BS treasonous leaders!You and your militia are about a hundred years late,but we would appreciate someone taking a command lead and due what your mission is,get rid of the tyranical bastards in Washington DC and then the world!It's time to remove the commies and Nazi's from the US government and try them for treason and enforce the constitional penalty for treason!Arrest this enemy combabtant in the W/H,he should have been in jail for multiple crimes of murder and treason against we the people of the US of America.
Come on Drake boy get your imaginary military forces in gear and start the arrests!These subhuman beings are no different that a Japenese zero attacking pearl Harbor and killing unsuspecting civilians and our soldiers! You don't sue the M/F's you fight back and kill the the enemy! They are not! I repeat, they are not Americans,they are international trators and not protected by any law on this planet,they are the enemy pure and simple! They have commited treason 24/7 for decades and our complicit in the murder of not only our loving troops and seals, they have killed thousands of innocent people from many countries with the use of HAARP,Haiti,Japan,China,Idonesia,USA etc. They are scum just like Alex Jones said today!We are at war and have been ever since this piece of garbage usurped the POTUS back in 2008!What are you going to do POSITIVE MILITIA?,Positive Military. In the name of freedom>>>CHARGE!

Anonymous said...

@Anon 5:17 PM
Thanks for the info.

Rest of us.
Ask yourself, what President is still a Citizen of another country to be called in to deal with charges of not paying taxes to that other country?
All these people who are dual citizens, would they be called in for not paying taxes to a country they aren't in more than 6 months out of the year?

Some with a little legal knowledge. Jurisdiction.
This United States of America charge would cross jurisdictional boundaries for the Republic for the united States.

Unless Tim Turner works for them, 'deep cover' and his ascending in office and descending in criminal trial is a 'flag' (I call false and fake) to get the rest of you to 'STOP' doing things that are weakening their system; I don't know why this is news.

Anyone can be President of their own group of constituents.
Something tells me Tim Turner has some contracts that still place him as a US Citizen otherwise, wouldn't they bring in ICE or something for dealing with a foreign national within their purported boundaries.

I'm no legal eagle, I know nothing. Especially nothing legal. I know definitions of some legal words and I make sure I don't call myself any of them either, because I know which words mean 'person'.

The proof is if Tim hires an attorney to represent him in the system he is supposedly not a party to, and supposedly outside the jurisdiction of.

He does that? You who have joined him will go down with the Titanic, because there is no way all of you know how to defend yourself when the 'blind man' who was leading you goes down too.

I wonder how many people sent their blood thumbprint off for some of these processes.

My goodness, they'll give all their DNA for a 'chance' to use a process they don't even comprehend.

Let me tell you...if you do something and you don't know what you are doing, in their legal world, you are 'presumed' to be knowing what you were doing or you would not have done it! Duh!

Can't plead insanity for completing a complicated process.
Can't say someone made you do it when you 'gave your energy' to the completion of the process, or was that your DNA (I mean blood print of some kind).

All those people around Tim and this happened?
What's he doing filing bankruptcy in the system he was outside of anyway?

He stepped out of the corporate United States and then filed bonds to pay the taxes of the corporate United States?

To his Republic for the united States (or whatever it's called if there is no for, but an of) the corporate United States should have been another country. He should have been like the people who come here from South America or Mexico who have a country but go to another country (in their travels).

If he did what they say he did..no sovereign would do that!

We make our own realities.
We are who we are waiting on.
You can't be ignorant of these things and try to beat the game. The rules are already written. Some can be bent, some can be broken, some can be ignored, but you have to learn on your own what's what. And when you walk your own walk, and learn it your own self, it's called the right of self determination.

NDAA is my friend, because I have dropped a lot of the 'Invisible Contracts' I was in. I want something to happen to all the people who helped dispossess me from my home after 11 years of sweat equity in payments and interest. It didn't belong to them, but they made me leave the building, (terroristic threat) and then came and declared it abandoned and sold it and made money off it. They made me a refugee in my own land using the value of the property I had from my own labor.

NDAA, Mu fu kurs.

Anonymous said...

No doubt he was probably paid off. How corrupt!

Anonymous said...

Like I tried to warn all of you, who wouldn't listen the first time....

The NDAA will be used AGAINST all of the communist enablers, the ones who were most obvious in helping the regime stay in power.

That means Tim Turner, anyone like Tim Turner, Chris Matthews, Matthew Drudge, Glenn Beck and Bill O'Reilly....you are the first ones they will take down and throw away the key.
http://zerohedge.com

All you "Seig Heil" enablers in the funny farm are feeling really stupid now aren't you, enabling the illegal regime to keep power?
You are all disposable, that's right, disposable as soggy corn flakes.

Welcome yourself to a prison camp for your sheer stupidity. Maybe if we're lucky, they will not come after the rest of the sovereign citizens for quite a while...

Anonymous said...

FOLKS - HERE IS THE REAL ISSUE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT REGARDING THIS JUDGE'S DECISION....... WHAT IS IT THAT THIS ROGUE ADMINISTRATION, INCLUDING THE ROGUE DEPARTMENTS WORKING WITH/FOR THEM (i.e., Nazi SS Homeland Security), HAS PLANNED AGAINST THE PEOPLE OF THESE united States THAT IS SOOOOOOO IMPORTANT AS TO IMMEDIATELY APPEAL AND REVERSE, BY FEDERAL 'JUDGE' LOHIER, THE ORIGINAL RULING AGAINST NDAA BY JUDGE FOREST? BE ON ALERT! SOMETHING IS IN THE WORKS FOR US AND OUR NATION - AND SOON!