VeteransToday: SEAL Whining Needs to Stop

BCC Friends: PLEASE FORWARD TO YOUR EMAILS LISTS.  This on-going bin laden "farce" needs to be exposed! THANKS! SEAL Whining Needs to Stop, Time For “Medium” Special Ops to “Man Up” http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/30/seal-whining-needs-to-stop-time-for-special-ops-to-man-up/ <SNIP? With thousands dead and, for those who remember, President Bush was caught claiming he met every casualty plane that came into Dover Air Force Base.  When the records had been checked, he had never been there.  He had lied. There are American traditions.  When combat vets talk about experience, they don’t brag or ask for special treatment.  Why do SEALS think they are better than Marines or Army or anyone else?  I believe 5 SEALS died at Abbotabad on a dead-end mission looking for nobody at all.  Their families have my condolences for sure and the hard questions of why people would go on a mission looking for someone they knew was dead? Abbotabad?  What we do know is that who was there lied about a 45 minute firefight, lied about bin Laden hiding behind his wife while carrying an AK-47, lied about bin Laden being there at all, lie after lie after lie and now we are supposed to believe more lies?   The last lie?  No firefight, I can believe that and shooting an unarmed old man.  This is the claim, I didn’t say it, they did.   Rules of engagement makes that murder and there isn’t an iota of proof behind any of it.  There were NO cameras, no photos.  With bin Laden announced dead in 2001, and, I can also assure the US and Pakistani governments and military knew of his death as did the CIA, why do I have to listen to whining based on a pack of total lies.   It isn’t the dead who are whining, it is the living.  It is cheap, disrespectful and childish. <SNIP> As no SEALS have spoken up like men, I will wait.  The mouthy profiteers from cheap gangster politics are now the spokesmen for an organization so many have been proud of for so long. SEALs have a great skill set, swim better than the rest of us, are highly organized, not as smart as Special Forces guys....but don’t seem to really understand the law, the constitution or have real respect for American values. If you are in the military, you don’t write books lying about your exploits.  No SEAL killed Osama bin Laden, end of story. Actually, real special ops people called him “Elvis bin Laden” because anyone “for real” knew about his death [in 2001], knew he was always CIA and knew he was “one of us” up to his death. We have a lot of families suffering, the dead, the wounded and most of those who served, none are doing well.   The answer is simple, you are “with us” or “agin’ us.” You are an American, a veteran, you love freedom or... you are a self aggrandizing profiteer likely to need shoulder surgery later on from slapping yourself on the back too often. ATTACHED ARTICLE Commentary: Arnaud de Borchgrave Elvis bin Laden Some key intelligence officials are taking bin Laden’s reported demise seriously. Read more: http://www.upi.com/Top_News/Analysis/de-Borchgrave/2010/07/26/Commentary-Elvis-bin-Laden/UPI-65401280146819/ COMMENTS Rollo,August 31, 2012 - 7:33 am Gordon, isn’t the newest SEAL book just a fiction written by the CIA, conveniently obscured by a pen name? Or am I mistaken there? Gordon Duff,August 31, 2012 - 7:37 am of course it is.   2.     Cold Wind,August 31, 2012 - 7:34 amI think it's clear, the SEALS have been used and abused and compromised by cynical and lying politicians. It’s up to the SEALS themselves to out the few who have chosen to profit through lies, whinney books and public appearences. I don’t think anyone seriously questions the bravery, competence and patriotism of the SEALS. Like the Marines, the SEALS don’t get to choose their missions. A lot of people know the truth of what happened in Abbatobad, some are top rated Marines, but they arn’t talking either. The system stinks. Meanwhile, in America…”The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity”.        4.       o    Gordon Duff,August 31, 2012 - 8:54 am o    I have been on enough stupid “missions.” Long story, no longer classified…probably… Was assigned at one time to “eliminate” enemy infrastructure using mercenary group I actually had to lead but didn’t have language skills to talk to. The enemy ended up being nurses, nuns, priests, teachers, doctors…. The US had decided killing them was “policy.” It wasn’t done…and I pissed many people off. We had some extreme difficulties over that….threats went both ways. YOU DO NOT ACCEPT ASSIGNMENTS TO MURDER CIVILIANS AND COMMIT WAR CRIMES. DOING SO VIOLATES THE GENEVA CONVENTION AND THE UCMJ. ONLY COWARDS TAKE BLIND ORDERS. Preston James, Ph.D,August 31, 2012 - 2:27 pm Another superb article, Gordon. Reports suggest that it is getting quite dangerous to be involved in special operations, not at the time of the op but afterwards when the USG tries to cover up all loose ends. Like the spooky teams in south American secret wars, it has become very dangerous to be associated with SOCOM (Spec Ops Command). FactversusHype,August 31, 2012 - 2:46 pm It’s about time somebody stood up and called out this farce. I don’t agree with some of the articles here (last line in article is the truth), but this is a good one. Exposure like this help break the mirage.