Late
Monday Night Dinar Chatter
06/10/2013
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[morethanready] Article 140 is done….This is huge guys. Havent heard anything about rising,,, But u will all be very pleased…Heard 11.86 and VND More for groups too 2.20…800 number will be activated when all is released… [morethanready] We wait for it now in the states [morethanready] Actually to go everywhere [jonjobe7] Dee1031 i heard the iraq govt was directed to approve 7 major items [SonoMan23] Is there a place an average joe like me can see it [SonoMan23] Morethanready: where did you hear all this [morethanready] SonoMan23 its out in the public [trigger3525] what happened? did we RV? [graciousme] morethanready now what ??? [sarge] morethanready It's time! [SonoMan23] Morethanready: in Iraq? [graciousme] morethanready well how do they hide it then .... Read More Link on Right
[buckwheat] If anyone is
interested I received some info from my banking source at the corporate level
of WF - http://i.imgur.com/xMojjVi.jpg
[msjeta1] morethanready Help I am so confused??????? xx said that rates were at 3.42 [morethanready] msjeta1 yes those are bank rates [msjeta1] morethanready street? [SonoMan23] Morethanready: how do I find it. Is the RV here or Iraq? [morethanready] Heard 11.86 and dong 2.20 [Precious] morethanready woohoo1 [toni] morethanready that would be nice [msjeta1] morethanready ok thank you thats what I thought we had [morethanready] More for groups too [Precious] morethanready awesome [morethanready] 800 number will be activated when all is released [Precious] morethanready is this this week? [morethanready] YES [Precious] aweome [Precious] morethanready republic this week? [morethanready] Could be that too [Precious] woohoo1 [SonoMan23] Morethanready: RV here or Iraq [morethanready] SonoMan23 iraq and only of matter of time here too [Precious] morethanready goes with this article http://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2316012&Language=en [morethanready] And we have rved here just not released [SonoMan23] How do we know Iraq RV where can I find it [morethanready] Guys u need to read that [msjeta1] morethanready that is not a coinsidence but it doesn't say a release date [morethanready] On the budget and article 140 [SonoMan23] Morethanready: Iraq public or here [morethanready] IRAQ [morethanready] And there are articles on it too toni] morethanready so this could pop anytime morethanready] YES [Precious] aweome ********************************* I4U: [justbelieve7] WCW the word "soon" has been banned [PinkPrincess] Let's see how many words we can come up with that mean soon so we don't have to say it anymore! [WCW] ok i get the point we will see it asn imo imo imo [Midnight Blue] Blaino said Nano second to nano second. how is that? [honeybelle] Midnight Blue got any hopium that donium is now!!!!! [Midnight Blue] honeybelle talked to a hald dozen contacts today. It ranges from Blaino's nano second to by end of month. You choice [rotormech35] IF you guys have read any kind of news today, you might have picked up on a few things.... the U.S credit situation went from "negative" to "stable"..... then France comes out and says that the Euro crisis is OVER, go figure, how did that happen.... then Japan just mysteriously has a surplus in their treasury [rotormech35] real world stuff [justbelieve7] Midnight Blue And Frank26 said tonight after saying June is the month since he didn't go to Hawaii as every other year that it may go into July [Midnight Blue] Hey, I am hoping by saturday to be on a beach slipping something with an unbrella in it served by some young hotty with my wife telling me she young enough to be my grand daughter. Well that's my fanatsy anyway. LOL spiritfilled] Robertprofessor from the postings from the greatest guys in Dinarland...(Jester, Markz, and Papa Bear) all seems on track for this week ***************************** [alphadinar] RobertProfessor yeah it makes sense what eagle1 was saying we are going to asset backing cause there insn't enough gold to cover the amount of world wide currency in circulation also RT is reporting Central Banks are aquiring gold I think it is GCR Basil 3 related [Robertprofessor] alphadinar More than gold will be needed ... all commodities. alphadinar] Robertprofessor absolutely I can see that now it makes sense and we will have currencies of value not just declared value and the currency wars and manipulation that goes with it Robertprofessor] alphadinar We're involved in the most exciting thing possible. [alphadinar] Yeah Robertprofessor absolutely well if the programs get released with the GCR that would be amazing we would have a different world pretty quickly [Robertprofessor] alphadinar That's what I anticipate. There will be much cleaning up work to do. justbelieve7] redhead1 Listening to Frank26 call ... nano second to nano second now...just waiting American Bankers met with Iraq over the weekend justbelieve7] vote4rv He said he had a tape from Delta but he never played it...Eagle 1 said things are set to go.... so who knows but God ******************************** MIG: [xyz] Iraq forms joint panel to stabilise currency, 2013-06-10 09 In a bid to prevent the fluctuation of the Iraqi dinar and adjust its value against world currencies, the Iraqi government on Monday (June 10th) announced that a joint committee comprised of members from the planning and finance ministries and the Iraqi Central Bank has been formed. Iraqi government economic advisor Salam al-Quraishi said the committee will establish several controls that aim to stabilise the dinar rate of exchange level and prevent its value from dropping. This will be done by supporting the value of the dinar with gold and preventing traders and banks from manipulating the dollar and euro rates of exchange, he said. http://al-shorfa.com/en_GB/articles/meii/newsbriefs/2013/06/10/newsbrief-09 xyz] hmm... Senate passes $955B farm bill in 66-27 vote, June 10, 2013 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/10/senate-set-to-vote-on-55-billion-farm-bill-monday/ (highhopes) Does that have any connection to the Farm Claims in the Prosperity Packages..or am i grasping at straws? [xyz] highhopes.almost 1 TRILLION dollars! who knows [highhopes] xyz hmmmmmmmm..interesting 0-2013 Intel Guru Frank26 You are about to WAKE up to a new world of currencies. I am here to tell You Iraq needs to do what ch7 wants of her via the AoP...IMF...WB and UST. I am here to tell You they have are and will continue to do all of these things as they have been doing this year with impressive speed compared to the past. I am here to tell You IMO...The GOI/M have to finish their meetings with the Kurds because KW is on stand by. In other words...The work needed to RV is ALL DONE!!! We gave permission via art 4 of IMF. Now...We wait. And wait. Then wait some more. Nanoseconds to Nanosecond. |
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Tuesday, June 11, 2013
Late Monday Night Dinar Chatter - 6-10-13
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blah blah blah blah hashed & rehashed the same talk for over 2 years...these dinar guesaroos need to be held accountable...
Two years??!! Try eight. Twenty for the 'programs'. Most are dead now.
I agree........!!
Just,
Lookn4Gold
I total agree with all your comments, so many people have passed waiting for this is not even funny.
Great way to keep you from doing anything useful...
Personally I never signed up for the programs even though i was invited. At the time it really was just not important and i didn't want to rob peter to pay paul. Now after looking at it again I really do not think the programs are going to pay out. It would be great for those that do pay we shall see i guess. I do think though over a period of time the Iqd and Vnd will rv. The question remains the same when ? That is the million dollar question.
I ALSO AGREE. STOP ALREADY!!!!
What most do not understand is that the IQD was not going to RV during the last two years or even with the last year.
If you read the plan for the invasion and rebuilding of Iraq that was composed by Bush, Cheney and others, the RV is just now coming to fulfillment. Unless certain elements of this process are completed, the RV cannot happen.
This is a very complicated process, especially when it is to include so many other currencies. Unfortunately, there is also the element of greed and treachery of high mukky muk that adds to the frustration.
There also is the issue that everybody knows somebody that knows something and then cannot verify or confirm the facts of the statements... more frustration.
If the IQD RV'd yesterday it would not have been too soon but I guess we will have to wait out the course of events.
The RV has to happen and when it does it will certainly be a blessing. Just think, this does give us something to look forward too.
Same garbage over & over for years.
First they [the Guru's] just started disappearing. Now they're dieing off.
Then some have had storm damage with a new roof in process, yet no funds to buy another computer to just get by with. Please, Enough Already!!! Ya'll know whom ya is.
I think it is an accepted truth that the "cabal" will lull you into a false sense of security. This Iraqi Dinar White Hat Mass Arrest blah blah blah is the same thing. It is meant to lull you into a false sense of security. A false sense of security stops you from taking action to address all these problems because we consider it just a matter of time until some Basel compliance regenerates the banks and markets. Truth is... it is getting worst and will continue to get worst until the gov and the banks change their policy. Like Snowden said: it's just a matter of policy. The only way they will change policy is by public pressure - direct pressure from the people on these institutions (challenge them in court, boycott their products, protest).
Come on, really, the Federal Reserve!
Like WF!
A bunch of corrupt bankers looking out for their own interest.
Time to realize the source of this information is coming from the bad guys.
Stupid me believing in Gurus' BBS ............
WE ARE BEING DUPED – PERIOD.
If the IQD will be 100% gold-backed after the ri/rv, why does the CBI still selling the dinar ????
Can someone help me to understand !
What_a_week!!!
First up the Gurus were all saying that the RV was about to happen and since it did not happen over the weekend as projected, they all went quiet - treading water.
Then the Iraqi Stock Exchange (ISX), who had purchased a new Forex platform, was reputed to have tried it out for a couple of hours and had to use the new International Iraqi rates – if true. This rumour of course raised the level of excitement amongst the Gurus and then we received:
7-18-2013 Intel Guru Jester [It was stated today the UN made a announcement on the Rv. Did u hear this as well?] WE DID HEAR ALL THAT SHORTLY AFTER IT HAPPENED... AND WE HAVE JUST RECENTLY CONFIRMED THEM TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY...WE THINK IT DID HAPPEN...[Now that you were able to confirm the UN announcement - what does that mean for the rate to show live?] WE ARE EXPECTING ANNOUNCEMENTS BY IRAQ AT MORNING PRAYERS ACCORDING TO WHAT WE HEAR... IF CORRECT IT HAPPENING SHORTLY THERE ... LET'S HOPE ALL THE INFO IS CORRECT.
7-18-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony I heard from 3 sources that the revaluation was announced at the UN at 2:15 EST today. When we will see it is being discussed at this time, could be tonight, tomorrow...i heard it could happen in a couple of hours...we'll see. I'm not calling the RV; I'm saying it was announced at the UN today. It's not on the site, it's not in writing, but word gets out when you have great sources. I don't have a transcript, all I know is that they said that the Iraqi dinar had, past tense, had revalued. [Post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
7-18-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony The rate showing at 5:00 was $3.65 for the IQD and $.47, VND. The rate in Iraq is $3.44. We have some people over there that were able to use their cards & it was $3.44. The lower denominations are out there, just not released to the citizens. Our window is tonight, tomorrow...hopefully a 3 day period. [How long before we can go to the bank?] I can't see them making an announcement & then waiting for it to happen until Monday. We possibly could be going to the bank tomorrow. It's an exciting time for all...It's a good day. [Post 2 of 2]
-19-2013 Newshound Guru Med GOT A PM [PRIVATE MESSAGE] THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED AT THE UN IRAQ WAS RV'ING...THAT IT WOULD RV THIS MORNING WHICH NEVER HAPPENED. ONE THING, WHY WOULD THEY ANNOUNCE IT AT THE UN AND NOT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE IMF WHO HAS BEEN WORKING WITH THEM SINCE DAY ONE. NOW THEY ARE CLAIMING AN RV TONIGHT. NOW IF YOU WANT TO STAY UP AND CHECK TO SEE IF I AM WRONG IT WILL START IN THE EAST WAY EAST LIKE BEFORE EGYPT, MIDDLE EAST THEN FRANCE, EUROPE AND THE UK, THEN OUR EAST COAST (USA).
So we will be scouring the Internet posts to establish if it has happened or not or is still on the cards.
The facts are that there has been no announced RV either in country, outside the country, by the CBI, by the UN, by the IMF or any other world wide agency. Additionally the IQD has not shown up with a RV rate on the FOREX, NASDAQ or any other legitimate exchange nor is it blinking on some...back room bank screen.
First, let me say to Okie, I have no animosity toward you or any of the other gurus. I really don't. It is my sincere hope that this time the pronouncements from on high might finally be correct and this ride is indeed coming to the end.
However given the past history, an open minded person would understand, even share my skepticism. We have been here before, over and over and over again. I am skeptical, but I was not always. You see, I was a super moderator on the old OOM site. I am still one on the Dinar Daily site. I vigorously defended you back then, even when I did not completely agree with you. You were the man, and you had the sources. Then you called it, not once, but several times, you then disappeared for days, and left us trying to hold things together and control the damage done. Many were banned then, but I am glad to report my ban button is dusty and rusty these days.
If this had happened once, we would have been OK with it, but time and again dates and rates were pronounced from on high, and nothing happened. Finally, for the sake our our own mental health something had to be done. Today DD is an open forum. Members are free to bring in any news articles, gurus, or other items pertaining to our investments for discussions, and we have a lot of them. Some light and humorous, some deep and serious, some technical, and most somewhere in between.
I said all of that to say this, we do not hide in the bushes waiting for you or any other guru to make a post. Actually, for a long time, we did not even allow any guru posts or discussion. We the moderators had had enough and needed time to recover. But now we do, and when they are brought over we discuss them. If there are things said we disagree with we say so, and generally speaking we say why. That seems to be something not allowed elsewhere, even when done politely, and asks for correction if possible. Once in a while one has slipped through, and get's posted, but none have ever been replied to.
Now I will grant that some comments are less than polite, we are all human and we all get frustrated, especially those of us who have been around for a while and seen others grievously hurt by the false reporting. Some have been induced to buy more than they could afford on the promises of gurus that this was going down any second now. I realize that they did not act wisely, but still a part of the blame must rest on those who make the pronouncements, no matter how they cover themselves with phrases such as "treat as rumor." You are someone who folks look up to for information and as such, you have a responsibility to make your pronouncements cautiously. I work as an insurance professional, and with financial professionals, and I can tell you statements such as you have made in the past would result in fines, suspension of licenses and possibly jail time. Such irresponsible and unverifiable statements are simply not acceptable. Not here, not anywhere.
It is my hope that this will lead all to not take anyone's not mine, not Okie's, Jester's or whoever you care to follow, statements blindly check them out, verify them, and if you can't verify them, take them with a very large grain of salt. It's not about being positive, or negative. It's about being real. When I question something it's not negativity, I am by nature a very positive person, but it is because something does not add up in my engineer's mind.
I do my homework, sometimes more and longer than I should, but I study, I have read the information on Basil III, I have studied the history of central banks, I have read the Iraqi constitution, I have read the UN resolutions, the UN charter, the IMF charter etc .... even the NESARA claims. So do yours as well ... read the info, all of it, even if you disagree with it, suck off the meat and spit out the bones. "Nuff Said" Hope you got it right this time Okie ....
If the BS about $3.44 is real. Well I am calling the Contractor - Contractors in Iraq who claimed to cash out at $3.44.
I have 1m IQD (25k note) and selling at $300. Anyone?
Last year one of my readers named F8 provided a link to a dinar site called RolClub where a pumper named shotgunsusie was saying the RV was done and the rate would go live by Oct. 1, 2006.
A subsequent post mentioned a target of $1.68 for the revalue. Another member named rentonrolr provided a link to the financials at the CBI website and said that $1.68 was impossible given the (at that time) money supply of 10 trillion dinar in circulation with an M2 of 17 trillion.
He was banned shortly thereafter. It's amazing to read this from seven years ago and see how little has changed. Sure, the numbers are different. The money supply has grown, there are hundreds of gurus now, dozens of dinar forums, and the dinar has gone up in value about 20% (due to the crawling peg policy from Nov. 2006 - Jan. 2009 that allowed them to get inflation under control) rather than the 250,000% increase Susie was pumping.
But the basic argument of whether Iraq can RV to an amount that would provide a windfall to dinar investors hasn't changed, and of course people who point out inconvenient facts are still called names and banned from dinar forums.
Reading through this thread was a real eye-opener.
The First Step to Recovery
Before you can recover from an addiction you must first acknowledge that you have an addiction. If you're not able to bring yourself to admit that you have a problem you'll never be able to rise above it. The same is true when it comes to being scammed. You can't move on until you admit to yourself that you were scammed.
It's not the worst thing in the world. Sure, it's a bit embarrassing. Nobody wants to admit to friends, family members, co-workers ... etc. that they got hoodwinked, but that's better than continuing down the same road toward perpetual disappointment and potential financial loss. Just like the alcoholic has to say "My name is John ... and I'm an alcoholic", the dinarian has to be able to say "I made a big mistake here. I got duped."
I had to say that to myself a couple of years ago. "My name is Sam, and I got conned." ("Hi Sam.") When I finally got around to doing my due diligence and realized that "deleting the zeros" means a lop, and that even if they don't lop the money supply is too big for the dinar to ever RV to a level that would make anybody rich, I did a Homer Simpson DOH!!! or two and started selling my dinar. It wasn't easy to say goodbye to the dream of instant millions, but in a sense it was blissfully liberating. At least now I knew what was going on.
And actually, it wasn't all my fault. I was new to currency speculation. There wasn't a lot of information out there on the Kuwaiti "RV" (which never happened), the history of revaluations, and many other things that the gurus were talking about to support their claims. And even if you found the information, most of the dinar forums wouldn't allow inconvenient facts to be posted as they were considered "negative". Even some of the most intelligent sounding gurus and researchers were repeating "forum facts" that had no basis in truth. And some of the redenomination articles actually used the word "revalue" when they were clearly describing a lop. It was confusing. It took years for those of us who have dug through articles and studied currency to get to the bottom of this and compile the information that is available today.
If you're hesitant to admit that you were scammed, look at it this way. You're in good company. Some very famous people have been the victim of scams. Steven Spielberg, Kevin Bacon, Sandy Koufax, Larry King, Zsa Zsa Gabor, John Malkovich, and Eliot Spitzer all lost money in the Bernie Madoff ponzi scheme. Dr. Tim Berners-Lee, the father of the worldwide web (no dummy there), bought products online from a fake company. Singer Billy Joel lost millions to a former manager. Sting and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar lost millions to their shady financial managers. It happens.
So don't beat yourself up. Just chalk it up to experience and move on. You'll be glad you did. Just repeat after me ... "My name is (your name here) and I got dinar scammed
POSTING FROM PEOPLE TALK RADIO 24/11/2013
In country RV ????
I wonder why you American Gurus still calling it everyday every week for years that the RV is happening?
As far as we know (I am back in Baghdad with wife visiting) there is no "in country" RV. In Iraq no one talk about currency adjustment. Our currency still remain the
same. As far as my members of family is concerned the Card still cannot be used. I wonder where the Gurus obtained the information about card activated
(at $3.44/3.86) and spending.
I have checked and re checked with family, friends. Not a single card holder is activated. We also checked with our American friends at the Baghdad US embassy and
big time contractor who work in exon. None of their card is paid (I don't know what is the meaning of Paid?).
There is no $3.44/3.86 exchange in Iraq. No announcement and absolutely no celebration as claimed.
I personally went to Baghdad citibank to do my exchange US-IQD. Rate remain unchanged at 1166. I also asked the the Bank Manager and received no information
about any currency adjustment.
I plan to stay in Baghdad for another 1 half month before I returned to Kuala Lumpur. I am very eager to find out what you American Gurus said about the in country
RV at 3.44/3.86? I don't know what I can do over here but if anyone can just help me out what to look for I will try to do it.
RANT! How the Hack Gurus Make Money on “FREE” Conference Calls!!!
I got in this excellent Rant! from someone calling him/herself “Upstate” and I believe most of this information is correct, if anyone wishes to correct the data, please post below.
That said, I believe this is certainly a MUST READ for those of you who think Tony TNT Renfrow and some of those other Hack Gurus who are just doing so-called “FREE” Conference Calls all the time – sometimes even twice a day, just rambling on and on with garbage and nonsense.
Anonymous Name / Handle: Upstate
Comment: I wanted to add to the rant of “Southern Shaker” yesterday. I enjoyed the LONG list of tall tales/and misinformation from TNT, but I am in telecom and I want to expand on his “$93,000″ phone call comment.
TNT hosts its phone calls with freeconference.com which is owned by Iotum. The way they make money is placing their conference call equipment in high cost rural areas (Iowa, Minnesota, the Dakotas etc) that charge VERY high prices to complete a call.
For folks with unlimited plans for long distance, this is not a big deal, but their provider (ATT, Verizon etc) pay a large cost per minute for the call… Sometimes upwards of 20 cents/minute.
With the affiliate plan, you can get paid 30% of the revenue generated by a call.
So far, I am just agreeing with Southern Shaker, but lets play this whole model out:
Southern Shaker says he heard 3000 people mentioned Monday. I heard 5000 (and it will be the last time I hear that liars voice!). They have bridge slots for 6000 as stated on the TNT site.
Many times they are full and they direct people to blogtalkradio.com (more on that later). Southern Shaker also states that the Monday call was 78 minutes. That was a short one. A brief check shows the average call is 2 hours/120 minutes.
Assume 5000 calls (call backs for a replay count too!) times 120 ( generous low because remember the meter starts running when folks call in 1/2 hour early) minutes times 2.5 cents (I am again being generous to Tony on the low side) . That is $15,000 per call. 3 calls a week yields $45,000 on calls alone!
Then you have the blogtalkradio.com affiliate program.
I am not an expert on them so I will make no estimates of the revenue, but I imagine it is a substantial number.
Without even throwing in kickbacks from dealers, you have yourself a 2 million dollar a year business!
You can throw a little around to your brother and a few other folks (maybe one in “DC”) and all the other money you receive covers the cost of the crappy website.
Of course, you have to constantly talk to “three letter agencies” and make sure the crap you spout keeps the poor, desperate, souls following you at a fever pitch and calling in…but what do you care who gets hurt as the money rolls in! Some folks will wise up, but new sheeple will take their place.
With this model you can “honestly” state, “I have never asked you for a dime to give you this information.”
Anyway, that is how I see it working. Good plan if you have no conscience.
P.S. Other dinar folks use free conference, and I do not begrudge them if they are getting a little payback off of it. I despise distorting the truth and leveraging gullibility of folks for profit.
Well, decided for yourself, however I believe “Upstate” just explained how they ARE PROFITING from these “FREE” Conference Calls!!!
So, what do you think? Is “Upstate” correct – do you also have knowledge how these work?
We feel that it is appropriate to make an interim statement concerning the latest position as we see it.
These observations must be prefaced by the fact that we can only get our information at this stage from the largely American gurus who have absolutely no responsibility for the information that they pass on. Some of this information is up to the minute information that can have changed before they can get it out to their ‘followers’ or misinformation that the people behind the activation wish us to believe.
Therefore to sum it up, this information is unreliable at best and focussed mainly on the US citizens naturally, but all that is available in the absence of official information from whoever is in charge. Consequently since most of our Shareholders who have invested in these currencies come from outside of the USA, our focus is on you.
At the time that we launched Currency Corner there was much emphasis on the groups that had been formed mainly in the USA, as these would be able to negotiate a better rate as a collective. Since then we have seen the introduction of the ‘contract’ rates and the introduction of the Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA) that together will enable the informed individual to get the best rate and thus making the groups redundant.
Consequently our original model, where a largish group negotiating a rate coupled with a code can get a better rate, is redundant also.
In the meantime keep following the "Trusted gurus" since at the end of the day whatever decision you take, will be at your discretion, so stay informed.
Kind regards
This is may not be posted HERE
What an actor. Calling it everyday, hurting thousand of peoples. Suddenly, now TONY - you are the good guy ..................blaming the "They" are the bad one. Gee........... Tony..... I am impressed.
People You have been Warned !
Wake Up ..... No one is holding this up. Not the UST or IMF or the Bank. No mosque announcement in Iraq, No celebration, no martial law, No in country RV, NO CHINA CONTRACT RATE, NO ONE IS PAID WITHOUT AN OFFICIAL INTERNATIONAL RATE BY THE IRAQI CBI.
I REPEAT NO EXCHANGE IS ALLOWED WITHOUT AN INTERNATIONAL TRADABLE RATE.
OIL CONTRACT RATE ONLY APPLIED TO OIL COMPANIES (TERMS & CONDITIONS APLIED (NDA) .....NUFF SAID (SECRET ACT)
TAKE NOTE - IRAQ IS NOT READY FOR CURRENCY ADJUSTMENT "AS YET".... BUT..IN PROGRESS
I HAVE BEEN IN THIS INVESTMENT FOR THE 9 HALF YEARS. I CAN TELL YOU NO ONE KNOW THE RATE AND THE DATE. DON'T LISTEN TO THE 'GURUS BS INTEL" NONE OF THEM HAVE ANY CLUE IN THIS INVESTMENT. NOT EVENT THE TOP WORLD FINANCIAL ADVISORS.
The real problem in Iraq is that politicians have failed ..... the country simply because relations between two political parties have deteriorated ... MALIKI IS NOT THE PROBLEM...... ...."KURDISTAN IS THE QUESTION ..."
IRAQ IS ABOUT TO HIT THE BIG TIME
The trade inflows upon the RV taking place will be interesting to watch. Maliki knows this is the key to him seeking successful re-election. One has to understand Iraq needed time to do this in her own way. Many Dinar speculators have wanted this to happen years ago, unfortunately the leadership of Iraq were simply not ready/wanting to see it happen.
Politics dictate life in Iraq. Maliki needs re-election and the RV is the golden ticket because in-turn the everyday Iraqi will see improvements.
For those who believed in Tony BS GO SEE A DR.
TNT Tony - Scam Artist
What an actor. Calling it everyday, hurting thousand of peoples. Suddenly, you TONY became the good guy .....blaming the "They" are the bad one. Gee........... Tony..... I am impressed.
You are nothing but a piece of shit......
The biggest Liar TNT TONY
A BBC Trending investigation has found that one of the biggest trends on Twitter in the US - #wearethepeople - involves claims about the Iraqi dinar which the International Monetary Fund has called "completely fraudulent".
But many of the tweets use terminology which is unintelligible to the outside observer. "Release the RV", they say, "release the Global Currency Reset". This might sound like financial jargon - but these are not economic terms recognised by economists. One of the biggest accounts pushing the hashtag - @THE_TNT_TEAM - has more than 250,000 followers. But tests run on the account suggest that between 65% and 80% of the followers are fake - meaning the scale of the trend is far smaller than the number of tweets would suggest. That said, those who are real followers are heavily engaged. Statistics from the group's chat forum show as many as 25,000 people logging in per day.
So what's it all about? "TNT Tony" - as the man behind this calls himself - encourages Americans to invest in the Iraqi dinar. He says the currency will be revalued imminently, making anyone who buys dinars rich overnight. TNT Tony hosts regular conference calls in which he updates his followers on the latest news on the dinar. Over the past few weeks, he has upped the ante, saying that a secret deal has been struck on the revaluation, and that this preferential rate is available only to the "elites". In short, he claims there is a giant global currency conspiracy.
The International Monetary Fund told BBC Trending that the claims being made are "completely fraudulent". Top economists that we have spoken to from Harvard University to the London School of Economics have dismissed the ideas being promoted as "complete hokum" and "dangerous". The dinar has been stable since 2010, and - say economists - if is revalued then it is more likely to go down against the dollar than up. TNT Tony declined to answer questions for this report.
Dinars are not available for sale at high street banks in the US, so the purchase of dinars takes place via a "dinar dealer" who takes a large commission - about 20%. As long as there is no connection - and no kick-backs - between the "dinar dealers" and those encouraging people to buy them, then this is all 100% legal. In TNT Tony's case, there is nothing we have seen that would suggest he operating outside the law.
TNT Tony is just one of a number of people who host online forums in which they offer "expert" advice and the latest "intelligence" on the dinar to anyone interested in investing. There is a long history of this in the US - dating back to soon after the invasion of Iraq in 2003. BBC Trending has been in contact with a number of Americans who have invested in dinars - some are hoping for a return of almost 1000 times their initial investment.
"It sucks you in," says Marcus Curtis who spent more than $3,000 (£1800) on Iraqi dinars in 2010 and encouraged his friends and family to do the same. "I spent two years of my life in the forums talking to people and learning all this stuff that wasn't true." He is now one of a handful of people who research, blog and campaign - often with considerable zeal - against those promoting the dinar. He describes some of the characteristics of the forums as "cult-like". There are examples of marriages breaking up and people losing their homes after spending money on dinars they cannot afford, he says. The hashtag #wearenotthepeople is still going strong, thanks to its fake - but also some very real - followers.
Reporting by Cordelia Hebblethwaite
I am done with this scam artist. He has be lying for years. Is time to lock him up forever.
CRIMINAL Court Docs on Tony TNT! He got 4 Years Time!Happy Thursday Dinarians,
Tony, You're lookin' kind of smug....
Tony, You’re lookin’ kind of smug….
Well our good ol’ buddy Southern Shaker has really done a long-haul in delivering to our community the goods on the BAD DEEDS of Tony TNT Renfrow…
Hey Tony, enjoying the limelight? Enjoying the BBC hitting you earlier this week? Enjoy those cigars buddy, you may not have much time left to do so before you get to go back “home” to Prison!!! LOL!!!
Ok guys if you want to REALLY see who Tony aka Anthony Wayne Renfrow, his wife Tamara Renfrow and even his brother Ray Renfrow and two of his daughters do as I instruck you step by step. This bastard has civil cases as long as your leg against him in Sacramento too!! OK here we go:
#1. www.saccourt.ca.gov/criminal/criminal.aspx
SECOND UPDATE: TNT Tony? (a.k.a. “Rex” bot) blows gasket, bot-attacks Dinar(s).me; spells our site name wrong. See screenshot below.
FIRST UPDATE: Fresh Tony spam bot spotted at #wearethepeople at 8:15 p.m. EST. See screenshot below (updates at bottom).
We’ve spent some time over the past few days hanging out with TNT Tony’s #WeAreThePeople Twitter hashtag in an attempt to understand it a little better.
This post will share some of our thoughts on that.
So far, we’re not impressed at all.
For one, it’s not all that it appears to be.
For two, a good illusion is still just an illusion.
TNT Tony claims to have approximately 250,000 Twitter followers and claims his followers have made well over 4,000,000 (four million) tweets.
Is this true?
Well, if you know anything about software (which we do, having participated in the development of similar software for legitimate purposes), you know what’s possible with ‘bots.’
Bots are software programs that allow you to automate various tasks that are typically done manually in a time-consuming fashion.
When it comes to underhanded use of ‘bots’ in social media for marketing purposes, these tasks often include… the creation of massive numbers of fake social accounts (often including photos and profile blurbs)… creating thousands of fake followers or fake “friends” or “likes”… and putting out thousands (or millions) of fake posts or Tweets. We’ve seen all of this very actively being done in TNT Tony’s #wearethepeople campaign and will provide some evidence of this today (which TNT Tony will surely deny and call us “idiots” for even suggesting it).
If you spend a little time at the hashtag #wearethepeople on Twitter late at night (we were up until 3:30 a.m. EST), you’ll see the bots coming out to play.
We caught several live and in action last night — literally posting thousands of fake posts one after the other in pure, automated fashion.
All 100% fake — and yet TNT Tony and his partner in crime, Pam, point out “We have over 4 million tweets! Let’s get it up to 5 million now!”
Well, that shouldn’t be too hard. Even I could do that myself with similar software. I could literally blast out 10 million fake tweets over a period of a few days using thousands of fake twitter accounts just as he’s done.
But, why would anyone want to do that other than to deceive someone? You wouldn’t. But TNT Tony has been deceiving and lying for a very long time. We suspect he simply can’t help himself anymore. Perhaps we’ll get into his court records another time if the Feds don’t take him down first, but for now we’ll stay focused on his #wearethepeople Twitter campaign.
Let’s get into how we know most of his followers and tweets are fake.
Here’s a screenshot we took last night while hanging out at the #WeAreThePeople hashtag:
This week’s News update comes with a health warning of getting too excited.
We received a communication yesterday telling the writer “ we are so close. So you will soon get a call and this will all be behind us “. This came from Reno, but it has to be said that we have received such encouraging information before now only for it to be proved incorrect.
Scheduled for 17th March, the new US currency, the asset backed Treasury Reserve Note (TRN) is to replace the ‘fiat’ USD Federal Reserve Note (FRN) will be available, we are told, and this will have a direct impact on the RV (Revaluation).
The Gurus have been mainly in high dudgeon this week and as Elections in Iraq get closer, at the end of April, Maliki, the incumbent Prime Minister needs to release the RV in Iraq in good time to give the people of Iraqi a lift and for him to get the kudos. As one Guru stated, to have the RV after the elections will be too late to benefit Maliki’s case, for the re-election he seeks.
Normally every Friday we listen to a particular Guru’s broadcasts and Q & A. Shortly before this evening’s broadcast we received this communication:
“Good evening. I know everyone was waiting on a call today, and I was prepared to give you a lot of good info. Unfortunately I just received 2 calls from separate 3 ltr (letter – e.g. UST, IMF, BIS, WTO etc.) agencies requesting that I don't do a call today.
The reason for the request is that things are at a delicate position today and they don't want us to effect what is going to occur over the weekend.
I can tell you that things are a lot more visible than they were yesterday and that they are in writing.
Everyone is in place and we should have a fantastic week ahead.”
Fingers crossed we could be making progress at last.
Amazing ... after years of BS. You still believe in TNT BS
As was to be expected, since no one likes change, the letter I posted and we mailed last week, dramatically increased the level of ‘buzz’ within the hive.
It is hoped that you will excuse the fact that it has not been possible to reply individually but it was very quickly apparent that there was a number of common threads running through the mails we received, so I will attempt to address these in this follow up mail.
First and foremost, I would like to thank all those Shareholders, of generous spirit, who offered ‘Birthday Wishes’ and those who were so complimentary of our efforts to date, even though we have effectively achieved nothing positive. These comments were very gratifying in acknowledging the efforts contributed by our unpaid support team covering our many facets and particularly our team of translators who bring you each week these words in a language you will understand, hopefully. Thank you team, we could not have got to this point without your selfless input.
Then there were mails from the other extreme, the angry ‘B’s’, who have no place in a harmonious community, so they must now fend for themselves, on the outside of the hive. We are sorry, but we are not going to donate all our time to this project only to be maligned by those who contribute nothing to the advance of our aims.
Okay, let us clear up some misunderstanding. I have given my notice to quit, but the term of the notice will extend until the Reno/FCUSA scenarios, do or don’t enable us to have the desired bridging finance to trigger LiberatorOne, following the expected RV/GCR taking place. This is an open ended period, since no one can accurately forecast a date when the RV/GCR will happen.
We are focussed on LiberatorOne being funded and disbursed - NOT just refunding your subscriptions - we are shooting for the main goal and have been all along. I hope that that is clear now.
Forget Lib2, Lib3 and Lib4, since sadly we have run out of time and they are unlikely to happen, because part of the Liberator mechanism will no longer be available, we believe, after the GCR.
Also, forget the annuity element, because that is unlikely to happen also, due to the changes with which we have been confronted. So prepare yourself to be content with the returns on the ‘Levels’ subscribed for and take pleasure from introducing your downline to a transaction that will have morphed into something totally different from that originally envisaged by your Directors, whilst hopefully achieving the original return per Level.
I cannot be any more definite than that, since it all rests on the RV/GCR/FCUSA and how, if at all, we can leverage the bridging finance in the immediate short term, to suit our requirement. That is the best that we can tell you at this stage, so don’t mail us on specifics, because we do not know at this juncture.
Distributing the LiberatorOne via a Gold and Silver Inc. account as previously planned is now impractical, because they will be inundated with orders after the RV/GCR takes place and will not be able to supply sufficient precious metal (PM). Your Directors are currently investigating alternative approaches and will announce their favoured method when this has been selected, so once again, in the meantime, don’t ask.
If you will excuse the plagiarism - “ask not what your co-operative can do for you, ask what you can do for your co-operative”.
Last week’s appeal for help has resulted in a number of responses that we are delighted to have received. Many hands make light work and when you are up against the clock to get something done such offers were very encouraging.
The biggest item of unfinished business, other than LiberatorOne, is the recovery of the million plus US dollars from AlertPay Inc. Firoz Patel has his fingers in so many pies all over the world and we need to know about these pies. It would be very helpful if Shareholders could search their register of commercial entities/ companies/ payment processors, in their own language to track down where he is and what he is up to. The language is a barrier preventing us from collecting this information. Particularly in Bangladesh and the subcontinent, where we understand he is focused and buying property with your money. So we would be pleased to hear from you with any information you can glean, since knowledge brings power.
It is unlikely that the AlertPay matter will be resolved before I move to new pastures, but I would be very happy to be available in the background to assist those who assume the mantle as part of an Executive Committee, which was so successful previously.
So a lot of what is written above repeats what I said last week but conveyed a different way. When we know more, on any subject, we will tell you in these News updates, which will change back to the usual format next week. So log in and keep up to speed with the end of the ride.
Warm regards
Terry Gilder
Terry Glider is a scammer, the LiberatorOne program is a scam. Thousand had invested in this pension plan program 3 years ago and still no sign of payout. Terry is a buddies of Tony TNT. Both should be in jail.
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