Read and weep at the ignorance of Americans and the media................
How Militants May 'Indict' Non-Believers
The FBI has begun negotiations with 'militants' at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, specifically with 'militant leader' Ammon Bundy.
Guards at the occupied refuge are now openly carrying assault rifles on the grounds, while men drive federally owned bulldozers to pave roads. More people are coming, too — from Cleveland, San Diego and right here in Oregon.
These new recruits are joining a culture increasingly hostile to people who disagree with their beliefs. And now, they want to try and convict those people.
It’s called a Citizens’ Grand Jury and to explain how it works, OPB’s John Sepulvado, reporting from Burns, joined Morning Edition host Geoff Norcross for a Q&A about the newest development inside Oregon 'occupation'.
(Got that folks? Standing up for your Constitutional rights makes you an 'occupier' and standing against an unlawful make believe 'government' makes you a 'militant'.)
Q&A With OPB Reporter John Sepulvado
Geoff Norcross: So let’s start with, what is a citizens’ grand jury?John Sepulvado: Well, if you’ve ever watched “Law and Order,” Geoff, you’ve probably seen actors at one point or another listening as a prosecutor makes a case to them that a suspect should be indicted. Well, it’s the same concept – a group of people – mainly sovereign citizens, get together and form a grand jury, and then they indict people they feel have committed some type of crime or wrongdoing against them. And just like the grand jury on “Law and Order,” these so-called citizen grand juries are just as fake. They carry absolutely no legal weight. (What a LIAR!)
GN: John, I just heard you say 'sovereign citizen'. Briefly explain what that is.
JS: That’s a person who doesn’t believe they are under the authority of the federal government, or often any government. I’m told by an expert they often don’t follow traffic laws, pay taxes, and often are very isolated, but there about 300,000 in the U.S. (This guy is one ignorant individual - shows just how far off from the truth so many Americans have become.)
JS: That’s a person who doesn’t believe they are under the authority of the federal government, or often any government. I’m told by an expert they often don’t follow traffic laws, pay taxes, and often are very isolated, but there about 300,000 in the U.S. (This guy is one ignorant individual - shows just how far off from the truth so many Americans have become.)
GN: Okay, so you have this group made up of these 'so-called sovereign citizens'. Where is the danger in this? Why should we care if people get together and have a 'mock trial'? (And to think that Americans will believe what they ahos are putting out to them.
JS: Well, it’s mock to you and me, and to the law, until it’s not, because, according to former Department of Homeland Security analyst Daryl Johnson, they get together and start deliberations. And Geoff, these proceedings are based on the Bible, English common law, and in the case of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, the Book of Mormon.
JS: Well, it’s mock to you and me, and to the law, until it’s not, because, according to former Department of Homeland Security analyst Daryl Johnson, they get together and start deliberations. And Geoff, these proceedings are based on the Bible, English common law, and in the case of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, the Book of Mormon.
GN: Okay, John, so say someone is found to violate these rules, they’re indicted by this so called grand jury – again, if this isn’t legally binding, who cares?
JS: Because it’s not legally binding, Geoff, these juries, often men, act in extralegal means. They’ll harass those who have been indicted, they’ll stalk them, they’ll kidnap them in some cases. I heard of one brutal instance in California where a county clerk was beat at the hands of someone who didn’t like her and got his friends to say she was indicted. From the FBI to the Daryl Johnson to the Anti-Defamation League, they all say, wherever these juries form, intimidation follows.
JS: Because it’s not legally binding, Geoff, these juries, often men, act in extralegal means. They’ll harass those who have been indicted, they’ll stalk them, they’ll kidnap them in some cases. I heard of one brutal instance in California where a county clerk was beat at the hands of someone who didn’t like her and got his friends to say she was indicted. From the FBI to the Daryl Johnson to the Anti-Defamation League, they all say, wherever these juries form, intimidation follows.
GN: What do the militants say?
JS: The rank and file love this. They see this as a simple way to restore what they see as their rights. And they’ve maintained that these jury findings remain peaceful. But the leaders won’t talk about it. I’m hearing from militants that Sheriff David Ward will be tried before this jury. I asked Ammon Bundy about it, he refused to answer, but it’s clear the militants are hoping this jury indicates him for what they see as his failures. A Colorado man will act as judge in these proceedings, and I’m told the jury has already been selected.
JS: The rank and file love this. They see this as a simple way to restore what they see as their rights. And they’ve maintained that these jury findings remain peaceful. But the leaders won’t talk about it. I’m hearing from militants that Sheriff David Ward will be tried before this jury. I asked Ammon Bundy about it, he refused to answer, but it’s clear the militants are hoping this jury indicates him for what they see as his failures. A Colorado man will act as judge in these proceedings, and I’m told the jury has already been selected.
GN: Harney County Sheriff David Ward is obviously well protected right now – he’s got body guards and extra deputies on patrol.
JS: But Geoff, it’s not just the threat of physical violence. These juries will rule against someone, and harass them for years. They’ll follow people, intimidate them, threaten them. There are cases where jury members have filed fraudulent liens against homeowners. When this jury reaches it’s verdict, the sentence is often psychological.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/oregon-burns-bundy-militia-grand-jury-occupation/
(America, we have a loooooong way to go to teach these people the TRUTH, which will also protect them and their constitutional rights. They are so ignorant they have no idea the vulnerable position they are in and how the current situation can and will backfire on them unless the people can teach the truth and turn the nation back to its Republic.)
JS: But Geoff, it’s not just the threat of physical violence. These juries will rule against someone, and harass them for years. They’ll follow people, intimidate them, threaten them. There are cases where jury members have filed fraudulent liens against homeowners. When this jury reaches it’s verdict, the sentence is often psychological.
http://www.opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/oregon-burns-bundy-militia-grand-jury-occupation/
(America, we have a loooooong way to go to teach these people the TRUTH, which will also protect them and their constitutional rights. They are so ignorant they have no idea the vulnerable position they are in and how the current situation can and will backfire on them unless the people can teach the truth and turn the nation back to its Republic.)
5 comments:
Eddie Craig in Rule of Law Radio show has proved the transportation code, in Texas, is illegal. He has all the docs, the legislature papers, the Texas constitution.
What traffic laws apply to right of travel? Traffic codes apply to transportation, ie bill of lading, passenger list, for going to the store to buy toilet paper, no one needs to be accused of 'operating' anything.
We are being pursued and punished under code, in the movie, The Matrix, they tried to show everything the 'show of authority' does is supposed to be within the provisions of the code. They act outside the code. They have no immunity. They are criminals, but no one files criminal complaints, they just complain to their friends and family.
People who file criminal complaints are what Neo described in the phone call:
Neo: I know you’re out there. I can feel you now. I know that you’re afraid… afraid of us. You’re afraid of change. I don’t know the future. I didn’t come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell how it’s going to begin. I’m going to hang up this phone, and then show these people what you don’t want them to see. I’m going to show them a world without you. A world without rules or controls, borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible. Where we go from there is a choice I leave to you. (The Matrix, 1999)
Judges are not elected by everybody, should only deal with those who elected them, if appointed, whoever appointed them cannot possibly have the power of attorney to make anyone talk to them that doesn't want to. Judges are not bound by the code, they have immunity, so they ignore everything about the code and its exemptions and move right to the contract. If you signed it on the side of the road, hopefully you wrote you signed under duress, or under coersion, otherwise, they presume its prima facia evidence you agree you violated the code.
People would do best to get out of these contracts, like that rancher did by tearing his up in front of the camera. Looks like a public notice of rescission of signature on the contract to me.
Sovereign citizen is an oxymoron, no one can belong under the control of another and be sovereign at the same time. They use that to confuse just like they say people 'lose' their home, when you can't lose something that doesn't go anywhere. The proper term is stolen.
If there are 300000 sovereigns, we have a good chance of having the Republic back, at least for them, and let the others clinging to citizenship have their government of control.
People pay taxes on gas and goods, the IRS tax is voluntary, so a broad claim of not paying taxes is an absolute distortion.
If the jury threaten violence, that would be criminal. There would be no jury, if it was a criminal enterprise.
JS: is truly not communicating the proper knowledge or communicating JS's lack of knowledge.
Criminal complaints go both ways, and they are shocked when the table is turned and their name is in a public database for all agencies to see with a complaint on them personally. It's up to you to decide what they have permission to do when they encounter you.
If you decide they had no permission to stop you, then where is your criminal complaint.
What do you think they are going to say, their costume, badge, gun, car with lights, or boss gave them permission to stop you? Really? Show me.
I noticed the picture at the top of this page.
How could Hillary steal china, it's still there.
Why would an upstanding woman like Hillary steal anything as she is a rich woman already. You don't suppose she stole that too?
Oh that's right all those countries gave her lots and lots of money. Say isn't that Treason taking money from a foreign government? Oh it's only Hillary so what difference does it make?
New poll out, listed Number 1 best speech delivered from an outhouse or was that the White House, can we say White House that far south, I say it but I live in the North. Looks like we're lucky to any kind of a house after Hillary left. Did someone think to check the garage to see if the lawnmower is still there? Ken T.
Ditto anon 4:39! Right on the money. I have all the legal paperwork proving the same about the vehicle codes in North Carolina and South Carolina. No license required to travel! In Tennessee there was a case in support of this: Tennessee Court of Appeals: "Automobile purchased for the purpose of transporting buyer to and from his place of employment was ``consumer goods'' as defined in UCC 9-109." Mallicoat v Volunteer Finance & Loan Corp., Rep Serv 1035; 415 S.W.2d 347 (Tenn. App., 1966)You don't need a license to operate "Consumer goods"! We are all sovereign as per the Courts in: U.S. V. Fox, U.S. v. Lee, U.S. v. United Mineworks and the ninth Circuit Court of Appeals Richardson v. Secretary of State. The Thirteenth Amendment makes void all Court cases where any BAR member was involved. There are no laws, just as Congressmen have repeatedly stated on television: "We are a lawless Nation" [corporation]. We have to educate the guys wearing the badges that they have been royally duped into being nothing more than hired thugs acting as revenue agents for the IMF! Remember that even the Israelites wanted to return to slavery claiming it was to hard to be free and Pharaoh would be merciful. Some sheeple are not ready to be unplugged and get very agitated when free thinkers prove them wrong. The deprogramming is going to take awhile. We have to be patient and vigilant. Lets hope the FBI agents have their facts straight and start investigating the political back story to the attempted ranch grab. Peace.
Eddie Craig has connected all the dots and has paid the price for his knowledge over the years and considered the man to see concerning vehicle codes and laws in Texas. Another great warrior on the issue of "driving vs traveling" is Richard L Koenig from Oregon. Here are a couple of his writings, http://www.powerteams.in/voice-of-a-peoplevoice-of-a-nation-2/ http://www.powerteams.in/crimes-cops-commit/
Look up Richard L Koenig on any search engine for more input.
To put it simply, the DOT, DMV, coupled with the insurance companies and trucking industry, is the biggest elaborate racketeering operation across this land that has been robbing the people and destroying lives for generations. The bottom line is that everything is under corporate law and all these so called government officials don't have any more jurisdiction or authority then the security guard at Wal Mart, but real "Law stands mute in the midst of arms". and the dumbing down of America has been a total success.
Cicero
I will leave you with a few quotes I remember that will fit in right here...
This is for those who may have any doubts,
" The commotion of the truth is in direct proportion to the lie that has been fed to the masses long enough that the truth is totally ludicrous and its speaker is a raving lunatic." Desdon James
"When armed force compels compliance with mythical laws and money is demanded for its violation, power will corrupt and greed will never be satisfied." Richard L Koenig
and my favorite:
THE PRIME LAW
Article I: No person, group of persons or government shall initiate force, or threat of force or fraud against any individual's self, property or contract.
Article II: Force is morally and legally justified only for protection from those who violate Article I
Article III: No exceptions shall exist for Article I and II
The Following Letter I sent Directly to John Sepulvado:
I read your comments in regards to "How Militants May 'Indict' Non-Believers" and find your ignorance disturbing! I won't call you dumb because I do believe you have the capability to learn the truth; I just believe your stance has been formed by the indoctrination of lies taught by the FEDERAL Education System.
I could go into a long dissertation on the Constitution and the Law but I feel you would learn more from watching the following video and reading the following two other links that I am providing you. If after that you still believe that the current legal system you see is LEGAL and that a Grand Jury by the People has no legal weight then I ask that after you have both watched this video and read the links that you provide me with proof that a Citizen Grand Jury is NOT LEGAL and is FAKE as you stated!
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9SXU_I1nIY
Website: http://theftbydeception.blogspot.com/2010/02/bar-association-history-who-owns-us.html
Website: http://www.barefootsworld.net/sui_juris/hiding_behind_bar.html
Website: http://americannationalmilitia.com/supreme-court-validates-peoples-rights-to-establish-common-law-grand-jury/
LAW CASES STATING OUTRIGHT THAT CITIZEN GRAND JURIES ARE LEGAL AND ENFORCEABLE
Website: https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/414/338
Website: http://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-supreme-court/504/36.html
Of note the BAR Association is in-fact the British Accredited Registry <<< Keyword here being BRITISH!
By the way a lot of this was accomplished through the Act of 1871, and the Treaty of Verona, as well as Versailles followed by the implementation of the illegal BAR Association!
P.S. these are but only just a few snippets of the truth... I can provide hundreds of more documentation proving the current legal system FAKE and even produce the Magna Carta itself confirming the right of citizens to utilize a citizens grand jury!
You might hate those at the refuge and want to call them militants, but in fact they are the PATRIOTS standing for the truth and the Constitution and the FBI and other entities of the FAKE Government are the MILITANTS!
Just as the Main Stream Media owned by the elite who wanted the Hammonds noted as Terrorists and Extremists for starting fires on their own land, as back burns to protect their farms and Property. Should I be allowed to prosecute you as a terrorist if you protect your property from me?
How about the fact that 2 of the 4 judges involved in sending the Hammonds back to more jail time were appointed by the Clintons. The same Clintons that have the BLM working for them... yes the BLM is a private corporation and they are working for the Clintons through their foundation!!! The Clintons have already promised these mineral rich lands of the Hammonds and Bundys to Russia!!!
Likewise, testimony proved the fires actually helped the PUBLIC LAND - AND THIS LAND IS NOT OWNED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT!
Have you even questioned the fact that the same sheriff newly put in place in that county was previously a BLM agent that worked against the Bundy's?
Have you found or even sought out how the BLM on multiple occasions have caused damage to PRIVATE lands when their fires started by them on Public Land jumped onto those private Lands where it caused both property damage and loss of livestock for more than numerous Ranches?
How is it they are exempt from being charged with Arson Terrorists like the Hammonds?
Do you question any of this? Does the TRUTH even matter to you?
Watch this following video taken secretly of a BLM meeting where the BLM representatives laugh up a storm about how they have managed through their illegal tactics to secure 100s of 1000s of acres from these ranchers!!
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrqWAkrLvI4#t=179
Do you have any INTEGRITY as to report the truth of what is happening?
Post a Comment