MORT
POST, 12 AUGUST
(mort) 4;52 pm est my guy said it was suppose to have
had the announcement today at 2 pm est-not sure what
happened or why if it wasn't-but the problem that wells fargo had was
resolved and should have been all done today and us in the banks
now
FORO DINAR GURUS
BLUWOLF
UPDATE, 12 AUGUST
Jejeje you know I
thought I had seen everything. Being logical and to the point I can see how
some think that they are getting away with murder. They create situations
around a certain bank, they actually paid folks to act
like idiots with the only goal to delay a blessing, yes
a blessing that no matter how hard they keep trying to delay it, it will come
to be because God wants it out there.
Now by looking at all this from the side lines one can see things clearly, one can see that WF isn't really the delaying factor here one can sense that all other institutions have a evil hand in trying to shift your focus from the real deal ( and that is the highest rates and best attention and that's with Wells Fargo ).
Folks please do not be fooled and stay focus follow your North and stay sharp. If you notice after all this banking allegations of a negative thought, Wells Fargo has been silent the reason being if you haven't done anything wrong there's no need in justifying a thing. I can tell that Wells Fargo has done there adjustments and they will be out of the bullpen and just stomping there competition.
Be bless now, stay calm sit back and you will see the magic occur.
Bluwolf
Now by looking at all this from the side lines one can see things clearly, one can see that WF isn't really the delaying factor here one can sense that all other institutions have a evil hand in trying to shift your focus from the real deal ( and that is the highest rates and best attention and that's with Wells Fargo ).
Folks please do not be fooled and stay focus follow your North and stay sharp. If you notice after all this banking allegations of a negative thought, Wells Fargo has been silent the reason being if you haven't done anything wrong there's no need in justifying a thing. I can tell that Wells Fargo has done there adjustments and they will be out of the bullpen and just stomping there competition.
Be bless now, stay calm sit back and you will see the magic occur.
Bluwolf
FORO
DINAR GURUS
Jester and Member's Chat at Jesters Place Late Monday
Night
08/13/2013
Jester: HI EVERYONE... HOPE
YOU ARE HAVING A NICE EVENING...
Jester: SEE I SNEAK IN EARLY AND YOU DON'T REALLY THINK IT IS ME...
[cheeny] Jester If you could address this from today please. 2 posts todat that the new CIX is to replace the forex and owned by the "families" and the ptb. Please tell me that this is not true if you know anything about it and that the "families" are not in control of the world trading.
[Jester] cheeny YEAH I SAW ALL THAT... WE BEEN TRYING TO RUN IT DOWN... GOT PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS IN THE FOREX SYSTEM... KINDA WEIRD YOU CANNOT FIND EVEN ONE POST ANYWHERE OUTSIDE DINAR LAND ABOUT THAT OR ANY FOREX CONTACTS... DID A LOT OF CHECKING AORUND BUT YOU PROABLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DATA FOR THE BASIS OF MY CONCUSIONS... LOL
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[Robertprofessor] Jester So far as you've been able to uncover, the current Forex system is good to go, and not holding anything up?
[Jester] Robertprofessor LET ME POST YOU A FEW BITS OF INFO AND YOU CAN HELP ME WITH WHAT YOU THINK...
[Jester] Definition of 'Forex - FX' The market in which currencies are traded. The forex market is the largest, most liquid market in the world with an average traded value that exceeds $1.9 trillion per day and includes all of the currencies in the world.
[Jester] Investopedia explains 'Forex - FX' There is no central marketplace for currency exchange; trade is conducted over the counter. The forex market is open 24 hours a day, five days a week and currencies are traded worldwide among the major financial centers of London, New York, Tokyo, Zürich, Frankfurt, Hong Kong,Singapore, Paris and Sydney. .
[Jester] COULD NOT FIND ONE ARTICLE IN A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE… SO NOTWITHSTANDING THAT YOU CANNOT EVEN FIND A COMPANY WITH THAT NAME OUT THERE... SO I LOOKED AROUND SOME MORE FOR CIX..
[Jester] I LOOKED UP CIX ON THE NYSE AND FOR THE CIX SYMBOL THIS IS WHAT I FOUND… CompX International tries to keep the workday smooth, theft-free, and painless. Through CompX's three operating divisions -- security products, furniture components, and marine components
[BJandJodi] It's ICX
[Jester] CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE IS ICX? LOL...
[Jester] I WAS GOING BY THIS POST... FOREX HAS BEEN ABSORBED BY CIX - CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE. CIX IS OWNED BY ALL THE CENTRAL BANKS IN THE WORLD AND THIS MAKES EVERYTHING BASEL III COMPLIANT AND IT GIVES EVERY COUNTRY SOME SAY IN THEIR CURRENCIES.
[Jester] SO THAT DIDNT MAKE ANS SENSE TO ME... SO THERE YA GO...
[cheeny] BJandJodi I read in a post this morning CIX Central International Exchange. Don't know what is right, just was on a post.
[Jester] The foreign exchange market (forex, FX, or currency market) is a global decentralized market for the trading of currencies. The main participants in this market are the larger international banks. Financial centers around the world function as anchors of trading between a wide range of different types of buyers and sellers around the clock, with the exception of weekends. EBS and Reuters' dealing 3000 are two main interbank FX trading platforms. The foreign exchange market determines the relative values of different currencies.
[gemco] BJandJodi came from this post also: 5. The new system is called the central international exchange
[Jester] THE KEY WORD IN THAT DEFINITION... RIGHT OFF THE FOREX SITE... IS DECENTRALIZED...
[Robertprofessor] Jester Sounds like a dead end or just another excuse for why it didn't happen.
[Jester] Robertprofessor OR SOMEONE IS GETTING SOME WEIRD INFORMATION FRMOM SOMEWHERE... WE CAN'T SEEM TO RUN IT DOWN...
[Jester] FOREX IS A GLOBAL PLATFORM... SO HOW DO YOU FIGURE A PROVATE COMPANY OF ANY KIND IS GOING TO TAKE OVER A GLOBAL DECELTRALIZED PLATFORM... DOESN'T MAKE SENSE...
[Jester] PLUS I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CONTACT THAT CALLS ME EVERY DAY VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING FROM FOREX AND HE TELLS ME EVERYTHING IS FINE... THAT THEY HAVE BEEN READY TO GO FOR SOME TIME... IT IS WORKING RIGHT... SO GO FIGURE... NOT SURE WHERE THIS STUFF COMES FROM...
[tdooly] Jester My understanding is that CIX will NOT replace FOREX but only "control" it with deep enough pockets to underwrite Basel 3. Nothing will change except ownership and that may be a misnomer.=
[Jester] tdooly I HOPE THAT IS WRONG... YOU DO NOT WANT ANYONE CONTROLLING THAT SYSTEM... THEY WILL TEMPTED TO MANIPULATE IT AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT...
[Robertprofessor] Jester But before this latest conundrum, so far as you've heard, Forex has not been holding back the GCR?
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[Jester] Phone
[Jester] WAS GETTING A DOWNLOAD ON HOW TICKED OFF EVERYONE IS.... LOL
[Jester] WELL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION... DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR WF TO GET TICKED OFF ABOUT CERTANI PREVIOUS POSTS...
Stellar: Jester, it sounds as if Okie isn't going to post again until the RV announcement. I love when he posts because it gives me the hope that this is really just around the corner. If any one in this forum talks to Okie (Jester, I beleive I remember reading that you do), can you please relay the message that we want him to continue to post. Thanks
Jester: Stellar I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE GONE TOO LONG... HE LOVES YOU ALL
[sclovingit] Jester, this has bothered me for quite some time. If we take the higher Private Placement rate so that China gets all the oil credits and then they will receive all the cheaper oil for their country, are we actually being greedy and ripping off the rest of the US citizens from catching a break on the price they pay for gasoline?
[Jester] sclovingit WE HAVE PLENTY... IF WE DEVELOP WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF HOARDING LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PRICE SHOULD COME RIGHT ON DOWN...
[Peggy] jester...so is WF going to cooperate now and get us our money?
[Jester] Peggy UMMM... IF YOU WANT A LOAN FOR A CAR DO YOU GO INTO THE BANK AND TELL THE GUY HE IS A SOB AND TELL HIM YOU DESERVE IT?
[alfonse] Jester I would rather have WF in the room as opposed to DHS/NSA
[Jester] alfonse IF YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL?
[paul] Jester.... if china is going to buy our dinar at a better rate " as some say"..why would they not just buy more dinar themselves at 1100 $ a million instead of paying more for ours...this really does not make good business sense to me
[Jester] paul THEY ARE A COUNTRY... THEY ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING SO...
[wango1] paul each country was assigned the amount they could have, that way no one country shifts the world economy
[BJandJodi] 2) Why are sovereign banks tied to a central bank, as such banks imply they are independent and therefore should stand alone?
[Jester] paul JUST TO EXPLAIN A BIT MORE... THEY NEED US TO DO IT FOR THEM...
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[Rusty_Nail] Jester, Question to you in Volunteer Land from Hog Land. How would you tell if a medium sized bank is Basil 3 Compliant?
[Jester] Rusty_Nail THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE FOR SOME TIME... THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD LIMIT YOUR EXPOSURE TO THEM... KEEP THE MOTHER LODE ACCOUNT IN ONE THAT IS AND TRANSFER OUT AS NEEDED TO THE SMALLER ONES.
[Jester] OK SORRY...GOT ON A QUICK CALL THAT DIDN'T TURN OUT SO QUICK.... LOL
[Jester] ONE OF THEM WAS MY MOMMA... HAVE TO TAKE THOSE... LOL
[Patience] Jester *****bigbear: Jester So The five Elders are waiting for the asset backed currency which it is waiting on the republic and when the money gets to the republic and the asset backed currency is announced the five elders tell the 3 card holder to let WF start the reset. -- Did I get any where close ???? What can you tell us that has progressed in this process????? Where is the 21 trillion????
[Jester] Patience SAME STORY DIFFERENT DAY....
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[t4me] Jester does fractional banking still exist under BaselIII. If so then how can this be a change? Just wondering. Or does fractional banking go away with the announcement of Gold back currency?
[Jester] t4me YOU'D HAVE TO WATCH THE BASIL 3 FOR DUMMIES POST ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE FOR A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION... WATCH THIS FOR A SHORT PRIMER... http://vimeo.com/59895335
[BJandJodi] Jester - You have indicated you are watching for the final steps of the process and that we are still awaiting the timing. Are you able to share what the final steps are that you are watching for -and/or- anything else that would provide us with more insight into the status for go-live?
[Jester] BJandJodi I AM ABLE TO... I AM JUST NOT WILLING TO... THERE AER SECURITY CONCERNS TO THINK ABOUT AND I WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO PUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OUT THERE...
[cheeny] Jester I, like most here, want badly to see the republic. I understand that you cannot tell us things, but this is getting so frustrating with the vuagaries and the when it is times. Please, can you give us some perameters to go by since we are running blind here? Days, weeks, months, years? Are we even truly winning this thing?
[Jester] cheeny I TOOK A LOT OF HEAT LAST NIGHT FOR SAYING I DIDN'T AGREE WITH CERTAIN POSTS COMING OUT... MANY SNARKY COMMENTS HERE AND IN OTHER ROOMS AND RECAPS AND THAT... BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT WILL TAKE WHAT IT TAKES AND A LONG AS IT REQUIRES TO GET IT RIGHT... SO I STICK TO WHAT I CAN SEE AS THE END OF THE PROCESS... AND WE ARE NOT THERE JSUT YET... YES I THINK WE ARE CLOSE... BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE WAY THEY WANT IT... UNTIL THEN WE WAIT...
[Goose] Jester so whats happened to all the other country's that were waiting on this I would think it was a very big deal to be on time with this to a certain extent and for the time limits there doesn't seem to be a worry about that anymore?.
[Jester] Goose IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO IS WAITING IF IT IS ALL FOR NAUGHT... THEY MUST GET IT RIGHT... WE HAVE THIS ONE SHOT TO FIX IT..
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) Since there are certain steps and announcements you are looking for.... you believe are needed before RV, Do the people in charge of this have an actual timeline or deadline?? Or is it open ended and they change the date as they please?? Thanks
[Jester] 1biz4u GOOS QUESTION... BUT WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE UNDERGOING IN THE PART WE CANNOT SEE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER... THAT IS WHY I DON'T DO RATE AND DATE...
[adventure7] Jester, though many don't always like your answers, including myself, please keep saying what you know is right because you're much closer to the target than anyone else
[Jester] adventure7 I DON'T LIKE MY ANSWERS EITHER SOMETIMES... I WOULD RATHER GET ON WTIH IT TOO... I HAVE PLANS... BUT I AM NOT GOING TO PUMP YOU UP FOR NO GOOD REASON AND MISLEAD YOU WHEN THAT KIND OF aiting for the email with the 800 number to set our appointments?
[Jester] WEW UMMM... I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS LAST NIGHT TOO.. YOU GUYS KEEP GOING THERE... I DON'T... I SEE NOTHING AT ALL INDICATING A DATE HAS BEEN SET...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) No actual pinpoint date or rate question.. But Do the PTB plan on finishing up all the process on going for this year 2013?? Dates to do the CEs. We have heard more than one DinarRecaps Intel Provider say otherwise. Do you think it would be helpful for all of the DinarRecaps Intel Providers having these discussions to synch-up on their sources for a clearer view?
[Jester] BJandJodi I DID NOT WRITE THAT... I HAVE BEEN REPORTING THAT THE BANKS AND FOREX HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME NUMBER FOR WEEKS... ALL THIS OTHER RATE AND LIVE STUFF YOU HEAR IS GARBAGE IF YOU WANT MY OPINION... I BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING ON THAT FOR WEEKS....
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[TexasTrump] Jester,,,I know you are not a rate guy,,,but the UN rates will update tomorrow,,,would that be a "supreme" time to see it please sir?
[Jester] TexasTrump NOT AN ISSUE... THEY CAN UPDATE AT ANY TIME...
[WEW] Jester ... Thank you for your unwavering commitment to help us through this process. With the funding of the smart cards In Iraq and Okie's post today stating the RV was Thursday, are we not simply waiting for the email with the 800 number to set our appointments?
[Jester] WEW UMMM... I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS LAST NIGHT TOO.. YOU GUYS KEEP GOING THERE... I DON'T... I SEE NOTHING AT ALL INDICATING A DATE HAS BEEN SET...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) No actual pinpoint date or rate question.. But Do the PTB plan on finishing up all the process on going for this year 2013?? Do you believe this is part of the plan?? Thanks
[Jester] 1biz4u AGAIN... I SEE NOT TIMETABLE... THEY WANT SOME THINGS DONE AND THEY ARE NOT DONE YET... SIMPLE AS THAT... NO BACK WALL... NOT SIDE DOOR... NO NEXT THING TO LOOK FOR.... IT ISN'T OUT HERE... IT IS IN THERE WHERE THEY ARE... AND WHEN THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT COMPLETED IT WILL HAPPEN THEN...
[Jester] I AM SORRY.. I KNOW YOU GUYS NEED THE HYPE OF THE NEXT BIG DATE OR RATE OR BACK WALL TO HOPE FOR OR WHATEVER... BUT I CANT DO IT... I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IN THE STOCKDALE PARADOX...
[Moonview] Jester * Do you aggree with EXOGEN??? on the Group info??????? post today
[Jester] Moonview PARTS OF THAT ARE TRUE... I CANNOT SAY AS I BELIEVE IN THE WHOLE THING... BUT PARTS ARE ACCURATE...
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[Shivohm] Jester - Has the historical asset project been concluded? If not, how much longer is it expected to go on?
[Jester] Shivohm IT IS CONTINUING... IT IS NOT HOLDING US UP.... JUST PART OF IT...
[sandytob] Jester YOu were so excited when the Historical Asset stuff was scheduled....you seemed to indicate that was a major factor in the global reset and we would move quickly from that point. Did something change?.
[Jester] sandytob YOU REMEBER WHEN ZAP POSTED "REDEMPTION FIRST THEN RV"... WELL THAT IS WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT...
[Shivohm] Jester So I assume (so you can correct me) that the historical asset liquidation will help clean up our national debt.
[Jester] Shivohm NO NOT REALLY... THAT IS MORE OF A FAIRNESS THING TO PAY BACK DEBTS THAT HAVE BEEN HANGIN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME... AND THEY WANT CLEAR THAT DEBT OUT OFF THE BOOKS AND START NEW ALL AT ONCE...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) I understand where you are coming from and thank you for your honesty. It's just so frustrating not knowing how long the PTB can stretch this out. Not knowing how far down the road the end may be. But thanks for your info. I appreciate it.
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[Kuda] Jester from your vantage point, are these signatures and card swipes and final agreements all that are holding us back, or is it another more delibrate effort by "powers that were" having an effect as well. Thanks
[Jester] Kuda LIKE I SAID BEFORE.. IT IS A PROCESS AND THEY ARE WORKING THROUGHT IT...THEY REST OF THAT IS SIMPLY INDICATORS OF PROGRESS...
[WEW] Jester ... I think it would be really helpful for all if we had an accurate definition of RV (Revaluation) Was it when it was decided to start the process... Was it when The IMF was given the permission to go forward.. Was it when Iraq came out of chapter 7 and signed a letter of intent to revalue currency in 30 days... Or any number of milestones we have pasted. Is it only when we exchange at the bank? Could you give us your definition Please?
[Jester] WEW MAN THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG IT ISN'T FUNNY... 10 YEARS OF SO AGO WHEN THE RV BECAME POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ.. PROBABLY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OIL AND CONTROL THE ME... ITWAS JUST ABOUT THAT... BUT THE RESET HAS BEEN IN PLANNING FOR MUCH LONGER SO THE RV KIND OF GOT SUCKED UP INTO THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT...
[TRudinarfreedom] Jester so by zap post no rv till sept .....I dont know for you but for me that is not soon
[mango] Thank you Jester, I finally understand about the puzzle pieces needing to fit to finish this puzzle. Thank you for being here for us and for your imput. Good night!
[johnnyjunk] Jester there's some kind of controversy about the "bad guys" influence in W.F. along with fear that derivatives will collapse the banks - do you think there really is anything possibly hidden from the elders in all this?
[Jester] johnnyjunk I DO NOT... THOSE GUYS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND ARE IN CONTROL... I THINK WHAT I JUST POSTED IS THE SIMPLE EXPLANATION... IT IS WHAT IT IS...
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[toolfan4] Jester well, in the "other" room tonight the queen gave a little speech about when things just are ripped out of your hand when you thought they were there and now the frustration of some sites gurus does point to something as a looong wait in dinarland coming up...i need to read the stockdale paradox again i think...i want out of this prison
Jester: toolfan4 I BELIEVE THAT THE MESS WITH THE GROUPS CAUSED A DELAY... HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND MESSED UP A PERFECTLY GOOD DEAL THAT YOU HAD SET UP TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS... THOSE THAT WERE POSTING AND TEARING DOWN THE DEAL THAT HAD BEEN SET UP ARE TO BLAME I BELIEVE... AND I THINK UNTIL THEY GET ALL THAT MESS BACK UNDER CONTROL WE WILL BE WAITING...
[sandytob] Jester What a great answer..the mess with the group thing....how can we make that right now?
[Jester] sandytob GOOD QUESTION... AND I AM NOT SURE I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER UNFOIRTUNATELY...
[sixpack] Jester sounds like the chinese had to step back after being ready and re-tool...no?
[Jester] sixpack WE CAUSED IT... WE WERE WARNED THAT THERE WOULD BE THOSE THAT WOULD COME IN AND SPREAD CONFUSION AT THE LAST AND WE DIDN'T LISTEN AND LET THEM SPLNTER THE GROUP AND MESS IT UP...
[yolav] THANKS Jester so tell me should i tear my dinar up or hold on to it...because someone messed our rv up?
[Jester] yolav HOLD ON... DO NOT DESPAIR... IT IS COMING...
[Nana] Thanks Jester, Mods and Room! Blessings and Peace!
[Jester] THANK YOU ALL FOR THE KIND WORDS... IT KEEPS ME GOING... THANKS FOR COMING AGAIN TONIGHT... TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS...
[Justice] Good night! Hope to see everyone back tomorrow night!
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/08/jester-and-members-chat-at-jesters-place-late-monday-night.html
Jester: SEE I SNEAK IN EARLY AND YOU DON'T REALLY THINK IT IS ME...
[cheeny] Jester If you could address this from today please. 2 posts todat that the new CIX is to replace the forex and owned by the "families" and the ptb. Please tell me that this is not true if you know anything about it and that the "families" are not in control of the world trading.
[Jester] cheeny YEAH I SAW ALL THAT... WE BEEN TRYING TO RUN IT DOWN... GOT PEOPLE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS IN THE FOREX SYSTEM... KINDA WEIRD YOU CANNOT FIND EVEN ONE POST ANYWHERE OUTSIDE DINAR LAND ABOUT THAT OR ANY FOREX CONTACTS... DID A LOT OF CHECKING AORUND BUT YOU PROABLY DON'T WANT TO SEE THE DATA FOR THE BASIS OF MY CONCUSIONS... LOL
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[Robertprofessor] Jester So far as you've been able to uncover, the current Forex system is good to go, and not holding anything up?
[Jester] Robertprofessor LET ME POST YOU A FEW BITS OF INFO AND YOU CAN HELP ME WITH WHAT YOU THINK...
[Jester] Definition of 'Forex - FX' The market in which currencies are traded. The forex market is the largest, most liquid market in the world with an average traded value that exceeds $1.9 trillion per day and includes all of the currencies in the world.
[Jester] Investopedia explains 'Forex - FX' There is no central marketplace for currency exchange; trade is conducted over the counter. The forex market is open 24 hours a day, five days a week and currencies are traded worldwide among the major financial centers of London, New York, Tokyo, Zürich, Frankfurt, Hong Kong,Singapore, Paris and Sydney. .
[Jester] COULD NOT FIND ONE ARTICLE IN A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE… SO NOTWITHSTANDING THAT YOU CANNOT EVEN FIND A COMPANY WITH THAT NAME OUT THERE... SO I LOOKED AROUND SOME MORE FOR CIX..
[Jester] I LOOKED UP CIX ON THE NYSE AND FOR THE CIX SYMBOL THIS IS WHAT I FOUND… CompX International tries to keep the workday smooth, theft-free, and painless. Through CompX's three operating divisions -- security products, furniture components, and marine components
[BJandJodi] It's ICX
[Jester] CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE IS ICX? LOL...
[Jester] I WAS GOING BY THIS POST... FOREX HAS BEEN ABSORBED BY CIX - CENTRAL INTERNATIONAL EXCHANGE. CIX IS OWNED BY ALL THE CENTRAL BANKS IN THE WORLD AND THIS MAKES EVERYTHING BASEL III COMPLIANT AND IT GIVES EVERY COUNTRY SOME SAY IN THEIR CURRENCIES.
[Jester] SO THAT DIDNT MAKE ANS SENSE TO ME... SO THERE YA GO...
[cheeny] BJandJodi I read in a post this morning CIX Central International Exchange. Don't know what is right, just was on a post.
[Jester] The foreign exchange market (forex, FX, or currency market) is a global decentralized market for the trading of currencies. The main participants in this market are the larger international banks. Financial centers around the world function as anchors of trading between a wide range of different types of buyers and sellers around the clock, with the exception of weekends. EBS and Reuters' dealing 3000 are two main interbank FX trading platforms. The foreign exchange market determines the relative values of different currencies.
[gemco] BJandJodi came from this post also: 5. The new system is called the central international exchange
[Jester] THE KEY WORD IN THAT DEFINITION... RIGHT OFF THE FOREX SITE... IS DECENTRALIZED...
[Robertprofessor] Jester Sounds like a dead end or just another excuse for why it didn't happen.
[Jester] Robertprofessor OR SOMEONE IS GETTING SOME WEIRD INFORMATION FRMOM SOMEWHERE... WE CAN'T SEEM TO RUN IT DOWN...
[Jester] FOREX IS A GLOBAL PLATFORM... SO HOW DO YOU FIGURE A PROVATE COMPANY OF ANY KIND IS GOING TO TAKE OVER A GLOBAL DECELTRALIZED PLATFORM... DOESN'T MAKE SENSE...
[Jester] PLUS I HAVE A PRETTY GOOD CONTACT THAT CALLS ME EVERY DAY VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING FROM FOREX AND HE TELLS ME EVERYTHING IS FINE... THAT THEY HAVE BEEN READY TO GO FOR SOME TIME... IT IS WORKING RIGHT... SO GO FIGURE... NOT SURE WHERE THIS STUFF COMES FROM...
[tdooly] Jester My understanding is that CIX will NOT replace FOREX but only "control" it with deep enough pockets to underwrite Basel 3. Nothing will change except ownership and that may be a misnomer.=
[Jester] tdooly I HOPE THAT IS WRONG... YOU DO NOT WANT ANYONE CONTROLLING THAT SYSTEM... THEY WILL TEMPTED TO MANIPULATE IT AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WANT...
[Robertprofessor] Jester But before this latest conundrum, so far as you've heard, Forex has not been holding back the GCR?
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[Jester] WAS GETTING A DOWNLOAD ON HOW TICKED OFF EVERYONE IS.... LOL
[Jester] WELL TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION... DIDN'T TAKE LONG FOR WF TO GET TICKED OFF ABOUT CERTANI PREVIOUS POSTS...
Stellar: Jester, it sounds as if Okie isn't going to post again until the RV announcement. I love when he posts because it gives me the hope that this is really just around the corner. If any one in this forum talks to Okie (Jester, I beleive I remember reading that you do), can you please relay the message that we want him to continue to post. Thanks
Jester: Stellar I DON'T THINK HE WILL BE GONE TOO LONG... HE LOVES YOU ALL
[sclovingit] Jester, this has bothered me for quite some time. If we take the higher Private Placement rate so that China gets all the oil credits and then they will receive all the cheaper oil for their country, are we actually being greedy and ripping off the rest of the US citizens from catching a break on the price they pay for gasoline?
[Jester] sclovingit WE HAVE PLENTY... IF WE DEVELOP WHAT WE HAVE INSTEAD OF HOARDING LIKE WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE PRICE SHOULD COME RIGHT ON DOWN...
[Peggy] jester...so is WF going to cooperate now and get us our money?
[Jester] Peggy UMMM... IF YOU WANT A LOAN FOR A CAR DO YOU GO INTO THE BANK AND TELL THE GUY HE IS A SOB AND TELL HIM YOU DESERVE IT?
[alfonse] Jester I would rather have WF in the room as opposed to DHS/NSA
[Jester] alfonse IF YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYTHING ILLEGAL WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL?
[paul] Jester.... if china is going to buy our dinar at a better rate " as some say"..why would they not just buy more dinar themselves at 1100 $ a million instead of paying more for ours...this really does not make good business sense to me
[Jester] paul THEY ARE A COUNTRY... THEY ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING SO...
[wango1] paul each country was assigned the amount they could have, that way no one country shifts the world economy
[BJandJodi] 2) Why are sovereign banks tied to a central bank, as such banks imply they are independent and therefore should stand alone?
[Jester] paul JUST TO EXPLAIN A BIT MORE... THEY NEED US TO DO IT FOR THEM...
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[Rusty_Nail] Jester, Question to you in Volunteer Land from Hog Land. How would you tell if a medium sized bank is Basil 3 Compliant?
[Jester] Rusty_Nail THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE FOR SOME TIME... THAT IS WHY YOU SHOULD LIMIT YOUR EXPOSURE TO THEM... KEEP THE MOTHER LODE ACCOUNT IN ONE THAT IS AND TRANSFER OUT AS NEEDED TO THE SMALLER ONES.
[Jester] OK SORRY...GOT ON A QUICK CALL THAT DIDN'T TURN OUT SO QUICK.... LOL
[Jester] ONE OF THEM WAS MY MOMMA... HAVE TO TAKE THOSE... LOL
[Patience] Jester *****bigbear: Jester So The five Elders are waiting for the asset backed currency which it is waiting on the republic and when the money gets to the republic and the asset backed currency is announced the five elders tell the 3 card holder to let WF start the reset. -- Did I get any where close ???? What can you tell us that has progressed in this process????? Where is the 21 trillion????
[Jester] Patience SAME STORY DIFFERENT DAY....
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[t4me] Jester does fractional banking still exist under BaselIII. If so then how can this be a change? Just wondering. Or does fractional banking go away with the announcement of Gold back currency?
[Jester] t4me YOU'D HAVE TO WATCH THE BASIL 3 FOR DUMMIES POST ON THE FACEBOOK PAGE FOR A GOOD ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION... WATCH THIS FOR A SHORT PRIMER... http://vimeo.com/59895335
[BJandJodi] Jester - You have indicated you are watching for the final steps of the process and that we are still awaiting the timing. Are you able to share what the final steps are that you are watching for -and/or- anything else that would provide us with more insight into the status for go-live?
[Jester] BJandJodi I AM ABLE TO... I AM JUST NOT WILLING TO... THERE AER SECURITY CONCERNS TO THINK ABOUT AND I WOULD BE IRRESPONSIBLE TO PUT THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OUT THERE...
[cheeny] Jester I, like most here, want badly to see the republic. I understand that you cannot tell us things, but this is getting so frustrating with the vuagaries and the when it is times. Please, can you give us some perameters to go by since we are running blind here? Days, weeks, months, years? Are we even truly winning this thing?
[Jester] cheeny I TOOK A LOT OF HEAT LAST NIGHT FOR SAYING I DIDN'T AGREE WITH CERTAIN POSTS COMING OUT... MANY SNARKY COMMENTS HERE AND IN OTHER ROOMS AND RECAPS AND THAT... BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS IT WILL TAKE WHAT IT TAKES AND A LONG AS IT REQUIRES TO GET IT RIGHT... SO I STICK TO WHAT I CAN SEE AS THE END OF THE PROCESS... AND WE ARE NOT THERE JSUT YET... YES I THINK WE ARE CLOSE... BUT IT IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE THE WAY THEY WANT IT... UNTIL THEN WE WAIT...
[Goose] Jester so whats happened to all the other country's that were waiting on this I would think it was a very big deal to be on time with this to a certain extent and for the time limits there doesn't seem to be a worry about that anymore?.
[Jester] Goose IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO IS WAITING IF IT IS ALL FOR NAUGHT... THEY MUST GET IT RIGHT... WE HAVE THIS ONE SHOT TO FIX IT..
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) Since there are certain steps and announcements you are looking for.... you believe are needed before RV, Do the people in charge of this have an actual timeline or deadline?? Or is it open ended and they change the date as they please?? Thanks
[Jester] 1biz4u GOOS QUESTION... BUT WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE UNDERGOING IN THE PART WE CANNOT SEE IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO ANSWER... THAT IS WHY I DON'T DO RATE AND DATE...
[adventure7] Jester, though many don't always like your answers, including myself, please keep saying what you know is right because you're much closer to the target than anyone else
[Jester] adventure7 I DON'T LIKE MY ANSWERS EITHER SOMETIMES... I WOULD RATHER GET ON WTIH IT TOO... I HAVE PLANS... BUT I AM NOT GOING TO PUMP YOU UP FOR NO GOOD REASON AND MISLEAD YOU WHEN THAT KIND OF aiting for the email with the 800 number to set our appointments?
[Jester] WEW UMMM... I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS LAST NIGHT TOO.. YOU GUYS KEEP GOING THERE... I DON'T... I SEE NOTHING AT ALL INDICATING A DATE HAS BEEN SET...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) No actual pinpoint date or rate question.. But Do the PTB plan on finishing up all the process on going for this year 2013?? Dates to do the CEs. We have heard more than one DinarRecaps Intel Provider say otherwise. Do you think it would be helpful for all of the DinarRecaps Intel Providers having these discussions to synch-up on their sources for a clearer view?
[Jester] BJandJodi I DID NOT WRITE THAT... I HAVE BEEN REPORTING THAT THE BANKS AND FOREX HAVE BEEN ON THE SAME NUMBER FOR WEEKS... ALL THIS OTHER RATE AND LIVE STUFF YOU HEAR IS GARBAGE IF YOU WANT MY OPINION... I BEEN SAYING THE SAME THING ON THAT FOR WEEKS....
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[TexasTrump] Jester,,,I know you are not a rate guy,,,but the UN rates will update tomorrow,,,would that be a "supreme" time to see it please sir?
[Jester] TexasTrump NOT AN ISSUE... THEY CAN UPDATE AT ANY TIME...
[WEW] Jester ... Thank you for your unwavering commitment to help us through this process. With the funding of the smart cards In Iraq and Okie's post today stating the RV was Thursday, are we not simply waiting for the email with the 800 number to set our appointments?
[Jester] WEW UMMM... I THOUGHT THEY SAID IT WAS LAST NIGHT TOO.. YOU GUYS KEEP GOING THERE... I DON'T... I SEE NOTHING AT ALL INDICATING A DATE HAS BEEN SET...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) No actual pinpoint date or rate question.. But Do the PTB plan on finishing up all the process on going for this year 2013?? Do you believe this is part of the plan?? Thanks
[Jester] 1biz4u AGAIN... I SEE NOT TIMETABLE... THEY WANT SOME THINGS DONE AND THEY ARE NOT DONE YET... SIMPLE AS THAT... NO BACK WALL... NOT SIDE DOOR... NO NEXT THING TO LOOK FOR.... IT ISN'T OUT HERE... IT IS IN THERE WHERE THEY ARE... AND WHEN THEY GET WHAT THEY WANT COMPLETED IT WILL HAPPEN THEN...
[Jester] I AM SORRY.. I KNOW YOU GUYS NEED THE HYPE OF THE NEXT BIG DATE OR RATE OR BACK WALL TO HOPE FOR OR WHATEVER... BUT I CANT DO IT... I DO NOT WANT TO BELIEVE IN THE STOCKDALE PARADOX...
[Moonview] Jester * Do you aggree with EXOGEN??? on the Group info??????? post today
[Jester] Moonview PARTS OF THAT ARE TRUE... I CANNOT SAY AS I BELIEVE IN THE WHOLE THING... BUT PARTS ARE ACCURATE...
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[Shivohm] Jester - Has the historical asset project been concluded? If not, how much longer is it expected to go on?
[Jester] Shivohm IT IS CONTINUING... IT IS NOT HOLDING US UP.... JUST PART OF IT...
[sandytob] Jester YOu were so excited when the Historical Asset stuff was scheduled....you seemed to indicate that was a major factor in the global reset and we would move quickly from that point. Did something change?.
[Jester] sandytob YOU REMEBER WHEN ZAP POSTED "REDEMPTION FIRST THEN RV"... WELL THAT IS WHY THAT WAS IMPORTANT...
[Shivohm] Jester So I assume (so you can correct me) that the historical asset liquidation will help clean up our national debt.
[Jester] Shivohm NO NOT REALLY... THAT IS MORE OF A FAIRNESS THING TO PAY BACK DEBTS THAT HAVE BEEN HANGIN AROUND FOR A LONG TIME... AND THEY WANT CLEAR THAT DEBT OUT OFF THE BOOKS AND START NEW ALL AT ONCE...
[1biz4u] Jester :) :) I understand where you are coming from and thank you for your honesty. It's just so frustrating not knowing how long the PTB can stretch this out. Not knowing how far down the road the end may be. But thanks for your info. I appreciate it.
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[Kuda] Jester from your vantage point, are these signatures and card swipes and final agreements all that are holding us back, or is it another more delibrate effort by "powers that were" having an effect as well. Thanks
[Jester] Kuda LIKE I SAID BEFORE.. IT IS A PROCESS AND THEY ARE WORKING THROUGHT IT...THEY REST OF THAT IS SIMPLY INDICATORS OF PROGRESS...
[WEW] Jester ... I think it would be really helpful for all if we had an accurate definition of RV (Revaluation) Was it when it was decided to start the process... Was it when The IMF was given the permission to go forward.. Was it when Iraq came out of chapter 7 and signed a letter of intent to revalue currency in 30 days... Or any number of milestones we have pasted. Is it only when we exchange at the bank? Could you give us your definition Please?
[Jester] WEW MAN THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR SO LONG IT ISN'T FUNNY... 10 YEARS OF SO AGO WHEN THE RV BECAME POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE WAR IN IRAQ.. PROBABLY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE OIL AND CONTROL THE ME... ITWAS JUST ABOUT THAT... BUT THE RESET HAS BEEN IN PLANNING FOR MUCH LONGER SO THE RV KIND OF GOT SUCKED UP INTO THAT AS PART OF THE PLAN TO MAKE EVERYTHING RIGHT...
[TRudinarfreedom] Jester so by zap post no rv till sept .....I dont know for you but for me that is not soon
[mango] Thank you Jester, I finally understand about the puzzle pieces needing to fit to finish this puzzle. Thank you for being here for us and for your imput. Good night!
[johnnyjunk] Jester there's some kind of controversy about the "bad guys" influence in W.F. along with fear that derivatives will collapse the banks - do you think there really is anything possibly hidden from the elders in all this?
[Jester] johnnyjunk I DO NOT... THOSE GUYS KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON AND ARE IN CONTROL... I THINK WHAT I JUST POSTED IS THE SIMPLE EXPLANATION... IT IS WHAT IT IS...
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[toolfan4] Jester well, in the "other" room tonight the queen gave a little speech about when things just are ripped out of your hand when you thought they were there and now the frustration of some sites gurus does point to something as a looong wait in dinarland coming up...i need to read the stockdale paradox again i think...i want out of this prison
Jester: toolfan4 I BELIEVE THAT THE MESS WITH THE GROUPS CAUSED A DELAY... HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF SOMEONE CAME IN AND MESSED UP A PERFECTLY GOOD DEAL THAT YOU HAD SET UP TO TAKE CARE OF THINGS... THOSE THAT WERE POSTING AND TEARING DOWN THE DEAL THAT HAD BEEN SET UP ARE TO BLAME I BELIEVE... AND I THINK UNTIL THEY GET ALL THAT MESS BACK UNDER CONTROL WE WILL BE WAITING...
[sandytob] Jester What a great answer..the mess with the group thing....how can we make that right now?
[Jester] sandytob GOOD QUESTION... AND I AM NOT SURE I HAVE A GOOD ANSWER UNFOIRTUNATELY...
[sixpack] Jester sounds like the chinese had to step back after being ready and re-tool...no?
[Jester] sixpack WE CAUSED IT... WE WERE WARNED THAT THERE WOULD BE THOSE THAT WOULD COME IN AND SPREAD CONFUSION AT THE LAST AND WE DIDN'T LISTEN AND LET THEM SPLNTER THE GROUP AND MESS IT UP...
[yolav] THANKS Jester so tell me should i tear my dinar up or hold on to it...because someone messed our rv up?
[Jester] yolav HOLD ON... DO NOT DESPAIR... IT IS COMING...
[Nana] Thanks Jester, Mods and Room! Blessings and Peace!
[Jester] THANK YOU ALL FOR THE KIND WORDS... IT KEEPS ME GOING... THANKS FOR COMING AGAIN TONIGHT... TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS...
[Justice] Good night! Hope to see everyone back tomorrow night!
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1. DO NOT CALL WELLS FARGO BANK 2. THE "HINT HINT" MEANS WE WOULD TOTALLY INTERFERE WITH THE SYSTEM TRANSITION. 3. IF ALL OF IQD LAND SENT EMAILS TO WELLS FARGO, FAXED WELLS FARGO, AND CALLED WELLS FARGO,WHAT DO YOU THINK WOULD HAPPEN? THE RESULT WOULD HINDER THE PROCESS IN OUR OPINION. 4. WE SENT AN EMAIL OUT TO ALL STAGE2OMEGA MEMBERS TO NOT CALL WELLS FARGO, EMAIL WELLS FARGO, OR FAX WELLS FARGO OR ANY OTHER BANK INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS. 5. PERSONALLY WE THINK OKIE HAD GOOD INTENTIONS FOR ALL OF IQD LAND BUT HE MADE AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE & DECISION, THAT WOULD NOT BE A CATALYST TO WHAT WE ARE WAITING ON. NOTE: PERSONALLY WE DO NOT KNOW OKIE, BUT WERE IT NOT FOR OUR FIRST IQD CALL WHEN WE HEARD OAKIE "THE OIL MAN" WE WOULD NOT BE IN THIS INVESTMENT AND MANY OTHER DINARIANS WOULD NOT BE EITHER. WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES, SO LET US ALL FORGIVE OKIE, AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE FINISH LINE, COLLECTIVELY VERSUS INDIVIDUALLY, AS WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM!!!!!!!! LETS STAY POSITIVE & MAKE SMART DECISIONS, AS WE ARE NOW CLOSER THAN EVER TO THE BLESSING!! GO RV!! EXO |
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I suggest inundating WF with phone calls and emails. Give them the names of all the gurus and dinar sites. WF would then get the attorney generals involved to stop this scam and expose it for what it is.
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