Monday, August 26, 2013

Part 1 & 2 --- Jester & Friends Q & A Chat

Part 1 Jester & Friends Q & A Chat

08/26/2013
  Aug 25 11:05 PM [Jester] SORRY WAS A TECHNICAL ISSUE WITH THE 'PUTER...

Aug 25 11:05 PM [Mya] Jester well thank goodness.. had me worried. LOL

Aug 25 11:05 PM [justbelieve7] Jester Great to see you! :)

Aug 25 11:05 PM [FredId] Jester is that why no RV ha, ha

Aug 25 11:06 PM [Patience] Jester HI THERE :)

Aug 25 11:07 PM [patsiayn] Yes Jester, What can you share?

11:09 PM Jester: OK... GOT SOME INTRESTING FEEDBACK ON A FEW THINGS... IT IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO SORT ALL OF THIS OUT...
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    11:09 PM WuDanFu: lurk and learn...

11:10 PM Jester: THE INTERESTING THING IS YOU REMEMBER I TOLD YOU ALL EARLIER IN THE WEEK THAT O WAS TRYING TO DO AN EO TO GET SOME RATES AND TAXES CHANGED...

  11:11 PM Jester: SO WE KNOW THAT HAPPENED... WENT BACK TO THOSE PEOPLE BECAUSE WHILE I WAS TOLD IT WAS ABOUT RATES AND TAXES I NEVER REPORTED WHAT THEY WERE... THE RATES ANYWAY... BECAUSE WE HEARD IT AND SAID HMMMM.... THAT'S NICE...
 
11:11 PM caddylady89: heard he is gettting his way and got 50 % taxes
 
11:12 PM 1166-1/2: farmer in the dell we are only 4 people and we dont by eggs or vegetables from stores on just a little land to boot , and after a little while not a lot of time involved either

  11:12 PM Jester: AND WE HEARD THAT THE TAXES WERE JUST LIKE WE THOUGHT ALL ALONG AT 11%.... SO NO BIG DEAL RIGHT?

11:13 PM Agent007: Jester Guess we only pay 11% on IQD only?
 
11:13 PM Jester: ANYWAY... NOW WE HEAR HIGHER TAXES THAN WE THOUGHT FROM BEFORE... SO NOW THE CONCERN IS OBVIOUS...

 11:14 PM luckyb: so now we may end up getting ** yur saying ?

11:14 PM Jester: THAT IS STILL NEEDING TO BE THOROUGHLY CHECKED OUT... AND WE HAVE NOT FINISHED WITH THAT YET... BUT I DON'T WANT ANYONE GOING UP ON THE ROOF TO JUMP OFF SO I AM GOING TO TELL YOU A COUPLE OTHER THINGS WE HEARD....

  11:15 PM Jester: THE RATE WE HEARD EARLIER IN THE WEEK WAS PRETTY GOOD... ABOUT DOUBLE WHAT EVERYONE ELSE IS THROWING AROUND...

WHICH IS ANOTHER STORY AND SOMETHING I DON'T LIKE TO TALK ABOUT ANYWAY AS YOU ALL WELL KNOW...  SO I AM GOING TO LEAVE IT AT THAT... WE DID HEAR IT...

11:16 PM Jester: THE FEEDBACK I JUST GOT WAS THAT CHINA WAS NOT GOING TO LET HIM DO IT... HE WANTED IT... THE COMPROMISE WAS TO RAISE THE RATE TO COVER IT...
  
11:17 PM FredId: Jester is there a tree by the white house??

   11:18 PM Jester: NET EFFECT... YOU GET MORE MONEY IN THE END...

  11:18 PM luckyb: i pray not one dime

11:18 PM Shivohm: Jester Sure hope you are right! From your keyboard to God's ears!

11:19 PM desertjar: If he don't get it then who will?

  11:20 PM Jester: NOW... LET ME TELL YOU THAT THE WHOLE THING WAS DONE BY EXEC ORDER... AS YOU ALL KNOW CONGRESS HAS TO VOTE ON TAXES... CANNOT BE DONE THAT WAY

11:20 PM mssaigon21: Agent007 I agree with you except for the beloved part.

  11:20 PM ranger5: Jester so...if im understanding right, they will not pull the tax off the top at exchange?

    11:22 PM Jester: NOW THERE IT STILL THE POSSIBILITY THAT IT IS ALL A MISTAKE OF SOME KIND... WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK AHEAD OF US TO FIGURE THIS ONE OUT... GIVE US TIME AND WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO FIND THE TRUTH...

  11:23 PM Jester: AT ANY RATE... THE NET EFFECT TO ANYONE FROM WHAT I KNOW RIGHT NOW IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS YOU STILL BREAK EVEN... SO TRY NOT TO DESPAIR OVER THIS NEWS TONIGHT... LET US FIND OUT WHAT IS GOING ON...

11:23 PM Jester: AND ASKING ME A LOT MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS ON WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW IS NOT GOING TO HELP ANYTHING...

11:24 PM Jester: I DID PICK UP A REALLY NICE TIDBIT IN THE ROUND ROBIN I JUST WENT THROUGH THOUGH...

1:25 PM Jester: REGARDING ANNOUNCEMENTS... APPARENTLY... EVEN THOUGH I DID NOT THINK IT WAS ALL THAT PROLIFIC WHAT WAS SAID... IT WAS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE ONES WANTING THEM...

  11:26 PM Jester: THEY HAD TO GET THE CORRECT TERMINLOLGY AND BUZZ WORD STUFF OUT THERE IN THE PUBLIC TO MAKE WHAT THEY ARE DOING LEGAL FROM WHAT I AM TOLD...

11:26 PM Jester: NOT NECESSARILY ANY MORE THAN THAT TO EDUCATE OR ALERT ANYONE TO WHAT IS HAPPENING...

11:28 PM Jester: SO THAT IS NOW APPARENTLY BEHIND US... AND AGAIN... I THE TIMING OF THAT WAS ALL LINED UP ON LAST THURSDAY... AND AS YOU KNOW THE BLOCK IN THE NASDAQ PREVENTED THEM FROM COMPLTING THE RESET...

11:29 PM Jester: I DO THINK THEY ARE PICKING THEIR NEXT TIMING... WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS... BUT I STILL LOOK FOR THINGS TO LINE UP FOR THIS WEEK... SEPT 1ST IS LOOMING... AND WE NOW KNOW THEIR FIRST FAVORITE DAY...

11:30 PM Jester: SO KEEP YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE UNDER CONTROL... WE WILL BE WORKING ON ALL THIS... AND WE WILL BRING WHAT WE FIND AS SOON AS WE CAN..

1:32 PM Jester: YOU GUYS NEED TO KEEP DOING WHAT YOU ARE DOING... DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO TO GET BY... WHEN THIS IS OVER YOU WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT ANYMORE...

  11:33 PM tdooly: With this NEW wrinkle, JESTER, do you think this will push the RV to the Oct - NOV window??

  11:33 PM Jester: OK.. HOPE THAT HELPS... WISH I HAD THE FINAL ANSWER...
 
11:33 PM AZ Native: Jester, for us unknowing people. Is or is it not about to happen? If you don't know, say it straight up. Quit sailing on, YOU CANNOT HIDE BEHINDPOST.
 
11:33 PM sclovingit: Jester - Is it POSSIBLE what Zap meant about O & China negotiating a 50% tax rate means that for each dollar's worth of Iraqi Oil Credits the USA sells to China, they have to give us 50% more in National Debt repayment.

For example, $2 in oil credits sold mean $3 in US Debt held by China is repaid? If that means there will be oil credits left over after our national debt held by China is fully repaid and my friends and neighbors can benefit some from the oil credits too - I'm happier.

11:33 PM ranger5: : Jester so...if im understanding right, they will not pull the tax off the top at exchange

  11:33 PM Jester: tdooly DID YOU ACTUALLY READ WHAT I JUST POSTED?  

  11:33 PM behindthescenes: My head hurts!

  11:33 PM sandytob: tdooly why would it push it at all?
 
11:33 PM luckyb: looks like il burn it befor i take a break even , if that is the case the people need just to sit on them as long as they can and not bust loose and make them make changes if that be the case ,

  11:33 PM tdooly: Jester Yes, did you?
 
11:34 PM luckyb: jester thank you for being truthful and honest
 
11:34 PM bigrichflorida: red is tennesee speak'
 
  11:34 PM Lady: Jester Thanks Jester for clearing up the fog for us

11:34 PM Jester: tdooly OK SMART ALEC... [Jester] I DO THINK THEY ARE PICKING THEIR NEXT TIMING... WE DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT IS... BUT I STILL LOOK FOR THINGS TO LINE UP FOR THIS WEEK... SEPT 1ST IS LOOMING... AND WE NOW KNOW THEIR FIRST FAVORITE DAY...
 
11:34 PM Jester: HOW CAN I ANSWER IT ANY BETTER THAN THAT?
 
11:34 PM avcdc: Jester thnx my friend for all u do...Are  their significant resignations that need to happen before an rv takes place
 
11:34 PM Raytheplumber: Patience Good night and good luck, Be blessed
 
11:34 PM avcdc: this week by sept 1
 
11:35 PM HenryGeorge: Jester so you are saying the chinese purposely entered into a fraudulent (no congress) contract that was created with an entity (US corp) which will soon be defunct so the contract will be null and void. Is that entrapment or something? <wink>
 
11:35 PM avcdc: have u seen this very powerful article

   11:35 PM Owatchee: Jester Thank you for all that you do for us. May God bless you and keep you always
 
11:35 PM superbiz: Jester just got here and the first post I see is worst case scenario is you still break even, try not to despair over the news tonight? what happened?

     11:35 PM Jester: avcdc I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE POST RESET...

   11:35 PM peacemaan: Jester Can you clarify what you meant by "breaking even" in regards to the net of exchanged currency?
 
11:35 PM avcdc: ok great
 
11:36 PM sandytob: superbiz by break even....talking about raising the rate to cover any tax increase.

11:36 PM Lake Lady: Jester:I just don't understand how O can still be negotiating ANYTHING regarding the c/e...IF the Republic is intact. But, if he really is still in charge, I am of the camp that the 50% (if viable) is on China, as part of their agreement with USCorp, not us dinarians. (BTW - He cannot levy taxes at will without congress, no matter who he thinks he is.) I think we will be quoted the "net" contract rate bxtwn WF & China, (after all fees and contract taxes, etc. are deducted from WF contract rate). Hmmmmm....

   11:37 PM superbiz: sandytob why would we despair then??

11:37 PM sclovingit: Jester - Is it POSSIBLE what Zap meant about O & China negotiating a 50% tax rate means that for each dollar's worth of Iraqi Oil Credits the USA sells to China, they have to give us 50% more in National Debt repayment. For example, $2 in oil credits sold mean $3 in US Debt held by China is repaid? If that means there will be oil credits left over after our national debt held by China is fully repaid and my friends and neighbors can benefit some from the oil credits too - I'm happier.
 
11:37 PM RV4life: Jester It's possible anytime this week. Preferably Tuesday.

     11:37 PM sandytob: superbiz we are not,  
  
11:37 PM airam: Jester then how long the Rep to be instaurated after the Rv ................ bc of the tax thing ............... i thought that the bank WF was going to collect the taxes at the same time of the xchang ........... what do u know if u can coment on this ty

1:37 PM caddylady89: Jester : break even ?

  11:38 PM Jester: HenryGeorge WHY WOULD THEY CARE WHAT OUR PRESIDENT DOES WITH OUR GOVERNMENT IN A CONTRACT? THAT DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE...

11:38 PM Rusty_Nail: Jester, The others were throwing out rates over $10. If he doubled that rate and 50% taxes That is 39% over the 11% we were to pay anyway. And a 100% increase in rate. Figuring $10 -11% =$8.90. New Rate $20 - 50% = $10 . We will come out ahead. If everything is correct. 12.36% ahead. Thank you for the information!!!

  11:38 PM HenryGeorge: Jester the whole world knows he doesn't have the authority to tax

 
11:38 PM Jester: sclovingit I DIDN'T READ IT THAT WAY AND NONE OF THE PEOPLE I TALKED TO SINCE IT CAME OUT DID EITHER...

 
11:39 PM WeRCurious: sclovingit...that sounds very logical...you are probably correct.

 
11:39 PM Mya: Rusty_Nail That was along my thoughts... Jester?
 
11:39 PM zorro: Jester You will have to send ZAP a fruitcake for X-mas since he dumped this 50% turd thing on a Sunday night for you to have to deal with.    
11:39 PM Kare: Jester double rate to cover taxes......only for dinar or dang as well TY
 
11:39 PM Jester: airam AGAIN... CANNOT ANSWER DETAILS... WE DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER YET... IT IS GOING TO TAKE A BIT OF TIME TO FIGURE OUT...

Part 2 Jester & Friends Q & A Chat

08/26/2013
11:40 PM Jester: HenryGeorge SO WHAT? THAT DOES NOT KEEP HIM FROM SIGNING A TREATY OR A CONTRACT...

11:40 PM texasgirl: jester, why didn't it go this weekend?

11:40 PM tree: Jester, when you get some good juicy info, is there any way to post it on your forum instead of having to wait for your room to open?

  11:41 PM sclovingit: OOPS! Sorry did not mean to post the same q again!

11:41 PM avcdc: a pope has never had to resign until this one...pope francis has opened up unpresedented change....the church is as powerful a group as therir is and their is changing happening their as we speak,,,,it parreles the change we r seeing in our own gov...it is upon us...
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  11:41 PM dsm57: JESTER, do you think with O track record that he will complete the new tax thing? I don't think so. your oppinion

11:41 PM luckyb: texas girl weekend aint over yet

11:41 PM fhdinar: Jester by "favorite day" are you referencing last Thursdays "test"?

11:41 PM Jester: Rusty_Nail GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT IT BUT OVERCOMPLICATED... AT 50% DOUBLE THE RATE AND THROW ALL THE REST OF THAT OUT... THAT IS WHAT I WSA SAYING...

11:41 PM HenryGeorge: Jester As if he is an emperor. He is acting as the Secretarty of State should act, not a chief executive.

11:41 PM sixpack: Jester I'm thinking you meant lawful as opposed to legal...correct?

11:42 PM Jester: zorro ROFLMAO... GOOD IDEA... I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING BEFORE THE ROOM OPENED UP AS I WAS READING HIS POST...

11:42 PM zorro: Jester Good job my friend!

11:42 PM luckyb: just let the lumini have him back and be done with it ,

11:42 PM Shivohm: Jester Sort of like Macy's sale! Mak it up 100% from $10 to $20 and then have a half off sale!  

11:43 PM Jester: sclovingit IF YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP POSTING THE SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER PLEASE READ THE ANSWER WHEN I WRITE IT...

11:43 PM RV4life: Jester 3 things for sure 1. Forex shows the new codes and rates 2. TRNs pay us 3. Reno inaugural first person to CE ??????

11:44 PM Jester: dsm57 I DON'T THINK SO EITHER...

11:44 PM bigmoneyboss: Jester..... So what is our window now?

11:44 PM dsm57: Dito

11:44 PM Jester: HenryGeorge

11:44 PM sclovingit: Jester, I already apoligized for accidently posting it again. SOOOORRRRYYYY!

11:44 PM Jester: HenryGeorge WELL THERE YA GO.... BUT THAT IS NOT PREVENTING HIM FROM DOING IT... THE REPUBLIC WILL...

11:44 PM Vigilance: Jester cannot see all your questions if you don't slow down, folks

11:42 PM zorro: Jester Good job my friend!

   11:44 PM Vigilance: Jester cannot see all your questions if you don't slow down, folks

11:45 PM TechDude: Jester I read a rumor that VND *might* not be taxed. Any opinion on that?
 
11:45 PM FrenchTexan2: Jester Just wondering on all this tax talk. Am I the only one that heard Miller (ex-head irs) agree that taxes are voluntary in front of the senate committee?

11:45 PM Jester: Shivohm EXACTLY....

  11:45 PM bigrichflorida: Jester His activities are actionable if congress would do their job

11:45 PM ohboy!: dsm57 dito that too

11:45 PM Jester: sclovingit NO PROBLEM...

    11:46 PM sixpack: Jester I'm thinking you meant lawful instead of legal...correct?

11:46 PM Jester: RV4life THAT IS THE FACT...

11:46 PM Jester: sixpack WHAT IS YOUR POINT PLEASE?

11:46 PM RV4life: Jester Washington says Monday looks good

11:46 PM Iank1978: I'm a little confused how O still has any bargaining power in this and where the taxes are going
 
11:46 PM Jester: RV4life NOONE LIKES THAT DAY... SO HEY.... MAYBE THAT IS IT....   

    11:47 PM sixpack: Jester legal is statuatory lingo...lawful is constitutional

11:47 PM Kare: Jester double rate to cover tax just for dinar or dong as well???? TY

11:48 PM Jester: FrenchTexan2 I FOR ONE DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE THAT ONE ON RIGHT NOW... SO I AM PAYING MINE... THE SYSTEM IN PLACE ALSO HAS IN PLACE THE WHEREWITHALL TO THROW YOUR BUTT IN JAIL....

11:48 PM Shivohm: Jester In my example the only thing that matters is whether the item is worth $5 ignoring all the gyrations Macy's goes through! Key word is Value! Is what I am getting worth it! Seems to me the answer is a BIG YES here!
   
11:49 PM ohboy!: Jester Do you have any idea to what eagle1 wants to talk to us about his post seemed quite urgent?

11:49 PM airam: FrenchTexan2 jester i read the article

11:49 PM Jester: airam NOT KNOWN... SHOULD BE BETTER... BUT I HAVE NOT STUDIED ANYTHING REGARDING TERRITORIES...

11:49 PM tier2wannabe: Jester does the shenanigans of WF trying to increase their spread after already signing an agreement and subsequently prolonging this reset have any effect on how you feel about them for exchange? Should they really be trusted with our money, even though operating under Basel III?

11:50 PM patsiayn: We appreciate your handling this for us and calming us down with what info you had you could share with us. Thanks.

11:50 PM ohboy!: Jester Excuse me I meant to say frank26

11:50 PM FrenchTexan2: Jester I was just taught when you find a truth you must follow that truth. To stand by my convictions.

11:50 PM Jester: sixpack WHAT DO YOU THINK WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW?

11:50 PM luckyb: i know im not in a druken stupper yet
   
11:51 PM rnort: Any Info On Dong Tax?

11:51 PM sixpack: Jester sorry...jumped to the new paradigm!!

1:52 PM zorro: rnort Taxed by the inch!

11:52 PM Jester: Shivohm GOOD WAY TO LOOK AT THAT... IF YOU WERE TO GET A BUCK AFTER EVERYTHING FOR YOUR DINAR YOU WOULD HAVE A 1166 OR THEREABOUTS RETURN ON YOUR INVESTMENT... NOT BAD...

11:52 PM tree: Jester, again and again you keep trying to give us the rate and date. We have tried to tell you before, it will happen when it happens.....ha

11:52 PM bigmoneyboss: Jester.... If you c/e to any currencies but US, taxes still apply?
  
11:53 PM pb: Jester please hold off on the rate/date info.. i heed to refill my bp pills

11:54 PM Jester: FrenchTexan2 AGAIN... IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO GO TO COURT AND TAKE ON THE EXISTING SYSTEM MORE POWER TO YOU... MOST DON'T...

SO I DON'T SIGGEST THINGS THAT WOULD GET PEOPLE IN TROUBLE WITH THE EXISTING SYSTEM NO MATTER HOW UNCONSTITUTIONAL... I AM BIDING MY TIME UNTIL IT CHANGES AND THEN I WILL DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT...

11:54 PM Jester: SORRY FOR THAT MESS OF TYPING PUP... TRYING TO HURRY BECAUSE NOT MUCH TIME LEFT....

11:54 PM Patience: Jester NP GOT IT

11:54 PM Redeye: Like restore veterans benefits

11:54 PM luckyb: you guys out there that have Dong and also kids dont worry about dong already been taxed , ( big smile )
 
11:55 PM rnort: What about tax on the Dong?

11:55 PM flashhair: Jester wouldn't making more for CE even the playing field for taxes anyway ?

11:55 PM sclovingit: Jester, when do you anticipate is the next Round Robin talks occurring?

11:55 PM Shivohm: Jester We will wait till you get a better handle on this 50% issue for us. But do you think it might be prudent to start planning on earmarking a portion for unfreseen tax liability? Or do you think that even IF this happens we will only receive NET AFTER TAX in our accounts?

11:55 PM Jester: pb ROFL

11:55 PM Jester: flashhair THAT IS WHAT I SAID EARLIER...

11:55 PM rnort: What about tax on the dong?

11:55 PM Jester: sclovingit ABOUT 3 MINUTES...   

11:55 PM sclovingit: THANK YOU!

11:56 PM flashhair: Thanks jester I keep getting knocked off sorry

11:56 PM Jester: Shivohm THANK YOU I APPRECIATE THAT....

11:56 PM Kare: i wonder about the dong as well

11:56 PM TechDude: Jester I read a rumor that VND *might* not be taxed. Any opinion on that?

11:56 PM Mya: Great info tonight Jester and thanks. I get the feeling your holding back some infor..... possibably on purpose?? I hope that is true anyone. any comment?

11:56 PM Rusty_Nail: Thank You Flying Eagle, Grunt0311, Independence, Jester, Patience, Pilgrim, Sacred Honor, and Vigilance!!!! Thank you for the hard work this evening and every evening!!!! You guys earned a lot of respect tonight.

11:56 PM Kare: but Ty anyway Jester for ur time
11:56 PM bigbear: Jester Thanks for all you do

  11:56 PM dave_144: Jester Thank you and the whole crew for bringing what you know. Great place

  11:56 PM Vigilance: Rusty_Nail you are welcome hun

11:57 PM rnort: Any dong tax info?

  11:57 PM Patience: Rusty_Nail   

11:57 PM Vigilance: Good night everyone - and thanks for being a part of Jester's Place

11:57 PM Grunt0311: HOPE YOU ALL HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE EVENING... LIKELY SEE YOU ALL BACK HERE TOMORROW. TAKE CARE!

11:57 PM zorro: Good Job All Site Folks!!!

11:57 PM Jester: EVERY ONE JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH... WE WILL GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS... WHEN WE DO WE WILL POST IT... WE KNOW YOU ARE WORRIED... TRY NOT TO BE... I KNOW IT IS HARD... BEEN A LONG RIDE... NERVES ARE FRAYED... JUST TRY TO BE CALM...

11:57 PM cheeny: Grunct0311, Jester and all you terrific mods. You are all amazing and thank you!!!

  11:57 PM behindthescenes: Mods great job tonight! It's like trying to corral kittens. Jester my hats off you did a great job tonight knowing the natives were restless.

11:57 PM Hannah: Jester Jester Pilgrim Vigilance Flying Eagle Freedom Independence Patience .... Thank you for a great night. Be blessed!

11:58 PM alohadinar: Thanks Jester and Grunt

11:58 PM Jester: GOD BLESS YOU ALL... AND GOD BLESS AMERICA.... BE COOL...

  11:58 PM Vigilance: alfonse thank you!

  11:58 PM dsm57: Thanks again jester and mods see ya tomorrow

  11:58 PM timekeeper: Good night and thanks to all!
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