John, How easy is it to put cover
stories out there to make the majority focus on something other than the RV????
The people need the RV but there is something missing..I don't believe that
they ran out of money..We have more than enough. Did you know that there was a
co-ordinated attack in the cities of Baghdad, Fallujah and Kirkuk ??? I feel
something bigger here. I will put that story below this:
04/17/2013
I4U:
[Jester] NOT GOING TO BE HERE LONG… SORRY I DON’T HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS… GOT A LOT OF OTHER STUFF TO DO… TRUST ME, YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE ME DOING THAT…
[Jester] WE’VE BEEN COLLECTING TRUCKLOADS OF INFORMATION ALL DAY LONG… REST ASSURED WE ARE GETTING SOME GREAT INFORMATION… THIS IS A LOT LARGER PICTURE THAN WE REALIZED… PUTTING THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER IS A LOT EASIER ONCE YOU FIND ALL THE PIECES…
[Jester] REST ASSURED… ALL IS WELL AND STILL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION… AND IT IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY PICTURE FOR ALL OF US WHEN IT IS FINISHED… THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO DROP IN AND TELL YOU GUYS… IT IS ALL GOOD...
[Jester] RELAX… TAKE A BREAK… OUR PIECE IS COMING UP…
[Jester] YOU GUYS TAKE CARE... GOTTA GET BACK TO IT... I'LL BE BACK LATER...
[puppylove] FOLKS PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY. HE IS GIVING YOU CLUES.
[Jester] NOT GOING TO BE HERE LONG… SORRY I DON’T HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS… GOT A LOT OF OTHER STUFF TO DO… TRUST ME, YOU WOULD RATHER HAVE ME DOING THAT…
[Jester] WE’VE BEEN COLLECTING TRUCKLOADS OF INFORMATION ALL DAY LONG… REST ASSURED WE ARE GETTING SOME GREAT INFORMATION… THIS IS A LOT LARGER PICTURE THAN WE REALIZED… PUTTING THE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE TOGETHER IS A LOT EASIER ONCE YOU FIND ALL THE PIECES…
[Jester] REST ASSURED… ALL IS WELL AND STILL MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION… AND IT IS GOING TO BE A PRETTY PICTURE FOR ALL OF US WHEN IT IS FINISHED… THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANTED TO DROP IN AND TELL YOU GUYS… IT IS ALL GOOD...
[Jester] RELAX… TAKE A BREAK… OUR PIECE IS COMING UP…
[Jester] YOU GUYS TAKE CARE... GOTTA GET BACK TO IT... I'LL BE BACK LATER...
[puppylove] FOLKS PLEASE READ THIS CAREFULLY. HE IS GIVING YOU CLUES.
[cashinqueen1]
puppylove so its bigger and will be delayed is my take hope no praying
[puppylove] cashinqueen1 HE JUST TOLD YOU ALL IS GOOD AND OUR PIECE IS COMING UP....
[spiritfilled] puppylove Maryrose I speak a little Jester and he is saying to me that they have had an AHA day meaning that it is clear to them now and the end is here do relax and hold on...IMO
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keiji] From GET chat Tony: he is talking live to people in kurdistan and iraq incredible call!!!!!!!!!!! They are saying it is officially going across the screen that they are telling them to turn in their 3 zero notes for ld's (*) ptr confirming everything frank said is 100% ON..
[redhead1] keiji - thank you for bringing that information
[moonchild] from the point of view of those of us interesting in an RV happening, it is really important to know how the exchange is being made in Iraq.
[cookieburr] Moonchild excellent point
[moonchild] if the exchange is 25k note for 25 dinar note this does not necessarily entail an RV but if the 25k notes are being exchanged for 25k in LD notes then there has to be an RV.
pappyy] moonchild IMHO I would think if they are requiring people to exhange a 25 K for a 25 note there would be rioting, people would think they were getting took
[dinardiamonds] maybe they are getting 1000 -- 25notes 1000x25= 25,000
[moonchild] pappyy that is my hope because if they are getting 25k of LD notes then there has to be an RV pronto
[pappyy] I think you also need to put things into perspective, I think I read a while back that the average income in Iraq is $6,000, so if that is the case the average Iraqi is not going to be holding a lot of the 25K note
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MIG:
.BJ] BWM and ?????what do you know and can tell us
[BWM] the problem with setting ANY date is the fact that human nature is to set expectations (even for the most pessimistic person) and when that date continually comes and goes even in the most optimistic individual it starts to darken your outlook toward the constant ups and downs
[BWM] .BJ intel for the day... NOT today
[tdooly] BWM Have you seen any solid evidence that they are REALLY getting the smaller denoms out, or is it just a TV announcement whaich can be Bull chips!!!
[BWM] tdooly I have heard nothing from contact that says that is happening... IF it were, then reasonably that couldn't really last past say tomorrow logically... if it takes a bucketful of 25k note to buy something at currency rate.. how many wheelbarrows do you need with a 1 dinar note
[BWM] tdooly I hope it turns out true... really do... but at this moment I just don't have it.... and let's face it.. how many "events" have shown up on iraqi tv and "big screens" in the square that were broadcasting huge announcements
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[harleyrider] Alright someone update us about Tony and he being so giddy on his CC.
[harleyrider] Tony: he is talking live to people in kurdistan and iraq incredible call!!!!!!!!!!! They are saying it is officially going across the screen that they are telling them to turn in their 3 zero notes for ld's (*) ptr confirming everything frank said is 100% ON.
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron What do think this means as far as timing of a new value?
[Capt Ron] i am also getting feedback, from an Iraqi source independent from Frank/Eagle and Tony, that there is an expectation among the peeps there for this iqd event to finally trigger.
[xyz] Capt Ron i want to believe but gone through similar and familiar route ....wonna be grounded.
[Capt Ron] tgwspoon at least by the end of this month, but likely as early as this present week. that is what i am hearing from others.
[xyz] Capt Ron if you hearing then i can open the wine lol
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron thanks :) I'll keep praying :)
[Capt Ron] if indeed the iraqi peeps are physically exchanging high denom iqd for lower denom iqd, that would be huge in that it would be a PHYSICAL act, on the streets, not just a banking move here or there.
[harleyrider] Capt Ron Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated.
[Capt Ron] xyz and yes, the usual caveat is worth going over again, which is....
[Capt Ron] ...we have all been down this "rv comin' soon" road before. some unknown and first time event could change the present expectation, keep it from happening.
[RindsGuy] Capt Ron Careful, you'll end up on recaps... again
[Capt Ron] yeah i know. that just comes with the territory i suppose.
Capt Ron] i forgot to include a 'Maliki is ugly' comment in that thread up there. shoot.
[watercolor] Capt Ron lol lol
[tgwspoon] There can't be that many wheelbarrels over there. Cause that's what everyone would need to carry enough money to buy things.
[Capt Ron] but if he ends up rich and ugly out of this deal, that's ok i suppose.
[RindsGuy] tgwspoon That's what I was thinking. So, something must be happening to bring prices down. That would mean the value must be going up.
[tgwspoon] RindsGuy yep :)
[Capt Ron] tgwspoon excellent point. logistically, if the lower denoms are indeed beginning to show up in iraqi peeps' hands (note the plural possessive apostrophe there?), that can't endure too long in their marketplace.
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron scratin my head and nodding....yep :)
[watercolor] Capt Ron plural possessive apostrophe duly noted...
[Capt Ron] ty. also note the use of 'too' instead of 'to' or 'two'.
[Capt Ron] arr
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GET:
midnight Blue] If they ran out of Funds with Tier 1 and 2 what do you think they is going to happen with over 3 million tier 3 start exchanging. Can they really be that Incompedant?
[midnight Blue] What do they think
[puppylove] cashinqueen1 HE JUST TOLD YOU ALL IS GOOD AND OUR PIECE IS COMING UP....
[spiritfilled] puppylove Maryrose I speak a little Jester and he is saying to me that they have had an AHA day meaning that it is clear to them now and the end is here do relax and hold on...IMO
************************
keiji] From GET chat Tony: he is talking live to people in kurdistan and iraq incredible call!!!!!!!!!!! They are saying it is officially going across the screen that they are telling them to turn in their 3 zero notes for ld's (*) ptr confirming everything frank said is 100% ON..
[redhead1] keiji - thank you for bringing that information
[moonchild] from the point of view of those of us interesting in an RV happening, it is really important to know how the exchange is being made in Iraq.
[cookieburr] Moonchild excellent point
[moonchild] if the exchange is 25k note for 25 dinar note this does not necessarily entail an RV but if the 25k notes are being exchanged for 25k in LD notes then there has to be an RV.
pappyy] moonchild IMHO I would think if they are requiring people to exhange a 25 K for a 25 note there would be rioting, people would think they were getting took
[dinardiamonds] maybe they are getting 1000 -- 25notes 1000x25= 25,000
[moonchild] pappyy that is my hope because if they are getting 25k of LD notes then there has to be an RV pronto
[pappyy] I think you also need to put things into perspective, I think I read a while back that the average income in Iraq is $6,000, so if that is the case the average Iraqi is not going to be holding a lot of the 25K note
************************
MIG:
.BJ] BWM and ?????what do you know and can tell us
[BWM] the problem with setting ANY date is the fact that human nature is to set expectations (even for the most pessimistic person) and when that date continually comes and goes even in the most optimistic individual it starts to darken your outlook toward the constant ups and downs
[BWM] .BJ intel for the day... NOT today
[tdooly] BWM Have you seen any solid evidence that they are REALLY getting the smaller denoms out, or is it just a TV announcement whaich can be Bull chips!!!
[BWM] tdooly I have heard nothing from contact that says that is happening... IF it were, then reasonably that couldn't really last past say tomorrow logically... if it takes a bucketful of 25k note to buy something at currency rate.. how many wheelbarrows do you need with a 1 dinar note
[BWM] tdooly I hope it turns out true... really do... but at this moment I just don't have it.... and let's face it.. how many "events" have shown up on iraqi tv and "big screens" in the square that were broadcasting huge announcements
**************************
[harleyrider] Alright someone update us about Tony and he being so giddy on his CC.
[harleyrider] Tony: he is talking live to people in kurdistan and iraq incredible call!!!!!!!!!!! They are saying it is officially going across the screen that they are telling them to turn in their 3 zero notes for ld's (*) ptr confirming everything frank said is 100% ON.
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron What do think this means as far as timing of a new value?
[Capt Ron] i am also getting feedback, from an Iraqi source independent from Frank/Eagle and Tony, that there is an expectation among the peeps there for this iqd event to finally trigger.
[xyz] Capt Ron i want to believe but gone through similar and familiar route ....wonna be grounded.
[Capt Ron] tgwspoon at least by the end of this month, but likely as early as this present week. that is what i am hearing from others.
[xyz] Capt Ron if you hearing then i can open the wine lol
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron thanks :) I'll keep praying :)
[Capt Ron] if indeed the iraqi peeps are physically exchanging high denom iqd for lower denom iqd, that would be huge in that it would be a PHYSICAL act, on the streets, not just a banking move here or there.
[harleyrider] Capt Ron Thanks for your input. Very much appreciated.
[Capt Ron] xyz and yes, the usual caveat is worth going over again, which is....
[Capt Ron] ...we have all been down this "rv comin' soon" road before. some unknown and first time event could change the present expectation, keep it from happening.
[RindsGuy] Capt Ron Careful, you'll end up on recaps... again
[Capt Ron] yeah i know. that just comes with the territory i suppose.
Capt Ron] i forgot to include a 'Maliki is ugly' comment in that thread up there. shoot.
[watercolor] Capt Ron lol lol
[tgwspoon] There can't be that many wheelbarrels over there. Cause that's what everyone would need to carry enough money to buy things.
[Capt Ron] but if he ends up rich and ugly out of this deal, that's ok i suppose.
[RindsGuy] tgwspoon That's what I was thinking. So, something must be happening to bring prices down. That would mean the value must be going up.
[tgwspoon] RindsGuy yep :)
[Capt Ron] tgwspoon excellent point. logistically, if the lower denoms are indeed beginning to show up in iraqi peeps' hands (note the plural possessive apostrophe there?), that can't endure too long in their marketplace.
[tgwspoon] Capt Ron scratin my head and nodding....yep :)
[watercolor] Capt Ron plural possessive apostrophe duly noted...
[Capt Ron] ty. also note the use of 'too' instead of 'to' or 'two'.
[Capt Ron] arr
*****************************
GET:
midnight Blue] If they ran out of Funds with Tier 1 and 2 what do you think they is going to happen with over 3 million tier 3 start exchanging. Can they really be that Incompedant?
[midnight Blue] What do they think
Story Below:
04/17/2013
Two
Iraqi boys express their solidarity with the marathon victims -- and offer an
example for Americans to follow
This piece originally appeared on firedoglake.com.
On April 15, 2013, in Boston, three people were killed when two bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon. Over 144 were wounded. Doctors performed at least 10 amputations on those injured.
The same day, in the cities of Baghdad, Fallujah and Kirkuk in Iraq, there were “serial blasts.” Fourteen car bombs and three roadside bombs went off. Thirty-three people were killed and over 160 were wounded.
The two boys understand far too well what it is like in the immediate aftermath of a terror attack. In their lives, there has been numerous acts of violence as a result of terrorism and U.S. forces waging war and occupation.
The boys not only stand in solidarity with the victims of the Boston explosions, but they also empathize because this is what they’ve experienced. Part of this message is being shared with Americans because they want them to know they understand the pain Americans are going through.
The Boston explosions received far greater attention than the attacks in Iraq yesterday. They continue to receive much more attention than the car bombs that went off in Iraq today.
In Iraq, bombings are too regular to be news events, which U.S. pundits and news crews respond to by flying to the location of the attacks. They also are happening over there, not here.
Few Americans ever stand up and snap a photo when bombs went off in Iraq. They rarely show solidarity with citizens of other countries that are feeling deep pain from violence. They wish, after events like this, that people recognize, “We Are All [the Name for People in That City Just Attacked],” when residents of U.S. cities are hit by attacks. People stand up and say things like, “We are all Bostonians today,” and, perhaps, there is a part of these Iraqi boys that would like to see that from the world.
America is, also, one of the greatest purveyors of violence. The political motivations behind this state-sponsored violence that we call counterterrorism or warfare can be just as hard to justify as the violence that kills people in terror attacks in America. The sadness that an event like a marathon would be disrupted should be coupled with reality that there are people in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, etc., who embark on daily errands and are swept up in violence.
All of which is not to suggest that people not mourn the dead and wounded. It is not to suggest that people do not wish that life was not marked by such acts of terrorism. It is rather to highlight, in the moment when people are most paying attention, that there are other people around the world who suffer from violence daily.
These others are willing to show empathy toward us in tragedy. What if Americans could follow the boys’ example and acknowledge the victims of bombings in other countries daily? What if every now and then more individuals posted photos showing empathy with others impacted by violence?
One can be cynical and offer a snarky retort, or one can brush this off as left-wing hippie nonsense, but it’s a rhetorical question that the two Iraqi boys in the photo should force all Americans to confront.
We are all citizens of the world, and our pain can bring us together.
Kevin Gosztola is a civil liberties blogger for Firedoglake
Source
This piece originally appeared on firedoglake.com.
On April 15, 2013, in Boston, three people were killed when two bombs exploded at the Boston Marathon. Over 144 were wounded. Doctors performed at least 10 amputations on those injured.
The same day, in the cities of Baghdad, Fallujah and Kirkuk in Iraq, there were “serial blasts.” Fourteen car bombs and three roadside bombs went off. Thirty-three people were killed and over 160 were wounded.
The two boys understand far too well what it is like in the immediate aftermath of a terror attack. In their lives, there has been numerous acts of violence as a result of terrorism and U.S. forces waging war and occupation.
The boys not only stand in solidarity with the victims of the Boston explosions, but they also empathize because this is what they’ve experienced. Part of this message is being shared with Americans because they want them to know they understand the pain Americans are going through.
The Boston explosions received far greater attention than the attacks in Iraq yesterday. They continue to receive much more attention than the car bombs that went off in Iraq today.
In Iraq, bombings are too regular to be news events, which U.S. pundits and news crews respond to by flying to the location of the attacks. They also are happening over there, not here.
Few Americans ever stand up and snap a photo when bombs went off in Iraq. They rarely show solidarity with citizens of other countries that are feeling deep pain from violence. They wish, after events like this, that people recognize, “We Are All [the Name for People in That City Just Attacked],” when residents of U.S. cities are hit by attacks. People stand up and say things like, “We are all Bostonians today,” and, perhaps, there is a part of these Iraqi boys that would like to see that from the world.
America is, also, one of the greatest purveyors of violence. The political motivations behind this state-sponsored violence that we call counterterrorism or warfare can be just as hard to justify as the violence that kills people in terror attacks in America. The sadness that an event like a marathon would be disrupted should be coupled with reality that there are people in countries like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Yemen, etc., who embark on daily errands and are swept up in violence.
All of which is not to suggest that people not mourn the dead and wounded. It is not to suggest that people do not wish that life was not marked by such acts of terrorism. It is rather to highlight, in the moment when people are most paying attention, that there are other people around the world who suffer from violence daily.
These others are willing to show empathy toward us in tragedy. What if Americans could follow the boys’ example and acknowledge the victims of bombings in other countries daily? What if every now and then more individuals posted photos showing empathy with others impacted by violence?
One can be cynical and offer a snarky retort, or one can brush this off as left-wing hippie nonsense, but it’s a rhetorical question that the two Iraqi boys in the photo should force all Americans to confront.
We are all citizens of the world, and our pain can bring us together.
Kevin Gosztola is a civil liberties blogger for Firedoglake
Source
4 comments:
Why Americans don't take pictures in Iraq? Shame. Americans feel shame that the American government could do cruel things like these.
PEOPLE 4 YEARS AGO WHEN I STARTED LISTENING TO GURUS I HAVE BEEN WAITING EVER SINCE FOR 1 OF THEM TO GET ANYTHING RIGHT.... THEY HAVE BEEN WRONG 100% OF THE TIME.... I WOULD NOT TRUST 1 THING THEY SAY. UNTIL PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT COMPARTMENTILIZATION IS THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LISTEN TO THE GURUS REPEAT CERTAIN THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER..... I TRULY BELIEVE THAT ALMOST ALL ARE GOV PLANTS ON A SALARY DOING THEIR BS.... JUST TO GIVE YOU 1 EXAMPLE FROM THE ABOVE POST .....1 YEAR AGO THE GURUS SAID THAT IRAQ TOOK ALL THE 25,000 NOTES OFF THE STREET AND WERE LOADING SMART CARDS (& SEVERAL TIMES SINCE) AS THE PEOPLE WERE HAVING TO USE WHEEL BARRELS FULL OF 250 NOTE TO BUY ANYTING...... NONE OF THIS EVER PLAYED OUT AS TRUE.... I CHALLANGE 1 OF THESE GURUS TO PROVE ME WRONG..... THERE ARE A FEW GURU GROUPS CHARGING MONEY AND PROVIDING FALSE INFORMATION....THIS IS CALLED...... F R A U D..
It's a trap people. Get rid of your dinar now. It is going to be devalued just like what happened in Venezuela last month. Instead of getting rid of zeros, they're going to add a zero. That's why they want the Iraqi people to exchange high denomination dinar to a lower denomination. Iraqis are unloading dinar for the U.S. dollar on the streets. They know what's up. This is first hand knowledge. Your dinar gurus are lying. Bail out while you can. You'll be sorry if you don't!
According to Poof, the Rothschild troublemaker who wants to delay RV would be Nathaniel Rothschild.
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