Wednesday, July 31, 2013

Jester - Part 1 - 7/31/13

07/30/2013   Part 1


[Jester]     HELLO  MODS, PEEPS, LURKERS, NEWBIES, AND CRITTERS... HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL TONIGHT...

[Jester]  HI   EVERYONE...

[justincase] Jester - Hi How did you come to be called 'Jester'?

[Jester] justincase LEFT OVER NICKNAME FROM A STORY THAT STARTED A LONG TIME AGO... LOL

[Jester] YOU GUYS STILL CONCERNED OVER GROUPS... (SIGH)

Jester] ALL RIGHT! RIGHT ANSWER!

[couchspud] Jester I will be concerned over groups untill I have solid answers on NDAs and funds required to stay, etc. but no problem waiting to find out cheers

[Jester] couchspud WELL... YOU HAVE TO GET THERE TO GET THE INFO... SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN...
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[moneydr] Jester .. Got this from friend of mine. Did you hear of this meeting? My Vietnam contact said IMF Christine Lagarde was over there in round-table talking about    "WB" Jim Young Kim & "IMF" Christine Lagarde on the round table at the state bank of Vietnam today. They mentioned plate of gold.

[Jester] moneydr THAT IS A NEW ONE SINCE NOONE HAS SEEN CL SINCE THE COUNTRY ADDING DEBACLE...

[randyv] Jester I know we don't know all the details about taxes yet but what is your opinion?

[Jester] randyv SOME THINGS I HAVE HEARD RECENTLY THAT MIGHT HELP... THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN COMMODITY TRADE AND CURRENCY EXCHANGE... I WILL EXPOUND FURTHER...

[Jester] PRIVATE PLACEMENTS.... AND THAT IS THE GROUP RATE BY THE WAY... WILL BE A PRIVATE PLACEMENT... ARE FOR OIL CREDITS... TRANSFERRING THE DINAR AS AN OIL CREDIT IS PURPORTED TO BE A COMMODITY EXCHANGE... THINKING OF IT THAT WAY MAKES IS SIMPLE...

[Jester] SO THERE ARE NO TAXES FOR COMMODITY EXCHANGE IN THAT REGARD... SO... THAT IS THAT... BUT NOT THE END OF IT...

[Jester] THE 11% YOU KEEP HEARING ABOUT... LET ME ADDRESS THAT... CALL IT A TAX... CALL IT A BROKER FEE... CALL IT WHATEVER YOU WANT... AND AT ANY RATE THAT WILL BE PRE-RATE FOR PRIVATE PLACEMENTS... YOU WON'T EVEN KNOW IT WAS THERE...

[Jester] IT WILL GO TO THE UST FOR THEIR PART IN THE DEAL...

[sandytob] Jester So, if a commodity exchange is not taxed, why will the WF group be paying the 11% tax?

[tc0043] sandytob As I understand it, the 11% is a fee being paid by China to the UST for the right to buy the dinar thru WF.

[Jester] IT WILL GO TO THE UST FOR THEIR PART IN THE DEAL...

[cookiesdad] Jester .. as long as we get more than the rest, it is all good

[Jester] tc0043 EXACTLY...

[Jester] THAT IS WHAT I AM SAYING HERE... SO YOU WALK OUT WITH WHAT THE RATE IS IN YOUR ACCOUNT AND LIVE HAPPILY EVER AFTER...

[Jester] NOW... THAT IS PRIVATE PLACEMENT.... THE DEAL WITH CHINA AND WF... AND THAT IS THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET THAT THAT I AM AWARE OF...

[Robertprofessor] Jester Can you say a word about the warning from high security clearance officer on Recaps?

 [plastyxman] sk8pastort what i am trying to say is, you sign the NDA get all of the details and not like the details, you signed a contract, you are stuck.

[blest40] Jester Will we be given adequate time to read the conditions of the group exchange at WD? It sounds as though we might be rushed through.

[Jester] blest40 IT WILL BE PRETTY SIMPLE... THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A COMPLICATED PROCESS... BRING YOUR DINAR... HERE IS THE DEAL... SIGN ON THE LINE... GET YOUR MONEY...

[Jester] ON TO OTHER DEALS THAT ARE MADE AS GROUP RATES OR WHATEVER ELSE IS CONJURED UP OUT OF THIN AIR TO GET YOU TO GO STRAIGHT TO THE BANK... NO OIL CREIDT DEAL... STRAIGHT CURRENCY EXCHANGE... DO THE MATH...

[gdsgrl21] Jester So technically that 11% isn't coming out of our funds but from China to WF... but this is not related to us paying any tax on the CE ?

[Jester] gdsgrl21 I MADE IT AS CLEAR IAS I COULD... NO WAY TO MAKE IT CLEARER...

 [sandytob] gdsgrl21 I think it means no tax at WF

 [Jester] sandytob NO ONE IS GOING TO TRY AND TRICK YOU... THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG TIME... IT WILL BE CUT AND DRY... STOP WORRYING...

[fhdinar] Jester, any viewpoints on the process since you were in last night? All dignitaries done IYO?

[Jester] fhdinar HAS BEEN THE QUIETEST AFTERNOON AND EVENING I CAN EVER RECALL... I AM HOPING IT IS THE CALM BEFORE THE STORM...

[jack1977] group ( check) taxes (check ) paper work (check) all is (check) rv (un check have to have that before we skip dont we grin

[charps84] Jester Do you think that WF will force you to use their investment people after signing papers with WF?

[Jester] charps84 NO I DON'T... THEY ARE BROKERING A DEAL HERE GUYS... A DEAL TO GET YOUR DINAR FROM ONE PLACE TO THE OTHER... THEY ARE SIMPLY GOING TO PUT THE MONEY IN AN ACCOUNT AND LET YOU HANDLE IT FROM THERE...

[FLPatriot59] Jester If the QI-Cards go "live" tomorrow in Iraq will that spur on the RV here?

[Jester] FLPatriot59 BIG IF... I REMEMBER PLAYING OUT THAT SCENARIO THE END OF LAST MONTH TOO...

[Robertprofessor] Jester Can you say a word about the warning from high security clearance officer on Recaps?

[Jester] Robertprofessor GOOD ADVICE IF YOU WANT MY OPINION... I WOULD LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID...

 [blest40] Jester / Robertprofessor -- it certainly gives us an out when people get too snoopy! :o) "I signed and NDA and can't talk about it."

 [Robertprofessor] blest40 That will be my last line of defense ... after I've walked away and the idiot is still insisting I answer his annoying questions.

[moneydr] [FLPatriot59] Jester If we have more VND than dinar, will we not receive as high a rate in the WF Private Exchance since China wants dinar for oil credits and the VND doesn't play into that scenario?

[Jester] moneydr SERIOUSLY DOUBT THAT... HOW DO YOU GUYS THINK THIS STUFF UP ANYWAY? LOL

Jester] moneydr I AM NOT IRRITATED ONE BIT... IT JUST MAKES ME WONDER WHY THERE IS SO MUCH OVERCOMPLICATION GOING ON.. THIS IS WAY SIMPLE...

 [rotormech35] Jester hey, and we're both engineers... I thought WE were supposed to make stuff complicated???? I feel normal in here

[Jester] rotormech35 HARD TO MAKE IT THIS COMPLICATED.. IT IS SO SIMPLE... GET YOUR EMAIL... CALL THE NUMBER... GO TO YOUR APPOINTMENT... LOOK AT THE NDA... MAKE A DECISION... I BET THE DECISION IS OBVIOUS WHEN YOU SEE THE RATE... PICK YOURSELF UP OFF THE FLOOR... SIGN... GET YOUR MONEY... WHISTLE DIXIE OR WHATEVER YOUR FAVORITE TUNE IS WHILE YOU FLOAT ALL THE WAY HOME... LOL

[rotormech35] the funny thing is, it really is that SIMPLE... actually its getting a bit out of hand with the OVERcomplication of this... WoW

 [Robertprofessor] rotormech35 I think we're running out of things to think about, chat about, ask about ... all that matters now is getting the email.

[FLPatriot59] Robertprofessor yeah, I agree. We're grasping at straws.

[Jester] Robertprofessor THIS IS LIKE 'WHAT HAVE WE MISSED'.... BUT WE HAVEN'T MISSED ANYTHING..... LOL

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