Message
from Bluwulf..Emailed to Recaps Friday PM
11/22/2013
THOUGHTS TO THINK ABOUT -
Bluwolf Friday Morning post emailed to Recaps
Good morning its 9:15 am eastern Santiago time,, I see a lot of misconceptions
and misinformation out there and I can say I told you so for it is imminent for
this to happen.
See, the thing is the cabal don't desire to lose its full power and it is trying
to do all in what they may have left to create havoc, confusion, discredit
towards intel people, mistrust, mayhem, loss of peace, murder by association
you name it, if I forgot something you may fill things in as you wish.
Now see here is where we are and this is it inside the box. First the rates are
steady and high and once it rv's it will maintain its value according to law
between 30 days before the drop.
Those saying something less in time are only trying to lure you to exchange as
soon as possible with them, those saying that if you negotiate a rate you will
be sent to the back of the process
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CL will not and cannot change the rates nor dictate its passings that is not
her role in these procedures, besides the fact that changing the values in the
rates will only place us back to the stone age again.
We would have to recalculate and revalue everything, every dime and this
takes a enormous amount of time and it isn't because I say it, you all have lived
it, so I can presume that she will not make that stupid and idiotical move at
all, its simply is not her style so sorry on this conspiracy.
Then we have the issues with simply the bird brains, yes those with tents
in the parking, cc don't call the bank, load up buses from the south and storm
two northeast banks type of folks, honestly don't you realize that only you
guys are causing this delay, so chill folks just stop doing this crap and act
as professionals waiting your turn with ordinance and respect.
I take this time to tell these owner of sites lets shut up do not give
out any info and just be back when we get the call this way we will rv fast and
the things above mentioned just will stop from happening, think about it.
And finally the” I curse your mother out “people, yes those haters of
everything good, yea you the ones that think that's its either your way or it
ain't, yea the certain folks that we decent Christian folk would never immulate
or follow, you seem to know all answers, you seem to think yourselves wiser
than the average intel provider so you seek to hurt them when things don't go
your way, you disrespect and curse them, NOW I ASK YOU WHO THE HECK DO YOU
THINK YOU ARE ?
From my perspective with all do respects you are simply nothing to me nor
to the rest of this world. All expected is still on track, motion-asn, rates
high, cc ready, 800# are up to be given out, IMF intervention-grain of salt not
probable, logical. To Puerto Rico best rates ever only in the continental
United States period.
Facts folks here is where we really stand, I hate to see as a third person how
they are using some really good folks and sites to create confusion, mayhem and
havoc to you who only deserve only our best. Be blessed everyone, happy
journeys, BLUWOLF
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/message-from-bluwulfemailed-to-recaps-friday-pm.html
Good morning its 9:15 am eastern Santiago time,, I see a lot of misconceptions and misinformation out there and I can say I told you so for it is imminent for this to happen.
See, the thing is the cabal don't desire to lose its full power and it is trying to do all in what they may have left to create havoc, confusion, discredit towards intel people, mistrust, mayhem, loss of peace, murder by association you name it, if I forgot something you may fill things in as you wish.
Now see here is where we are and this is it inside the box. First the rates are steady and high and once it rv's it will maintain its value according to law between 30 days before the drop.
Those saying something less in time are only trying to lure you to exchange as soon as possible with them, those saying that if you negotiate a rate you will be sent to the back of the process
....
Read More Link on Right
CL will not and cannot change the rates nor dictate its passings that is not her role in these procedures, besides the fact that changing the values in the rates will only place us back to the stone age again.
We would have to recalculate and revalue everything, every dime and this takes a enormous amount of time and it isn't because I say it, you all have lived it, so I can presume that she will not make that stupid and idiotical move at all, its simply is not her style so sorry on this conspiracy.
Then we have the issues with simply the bird brains, yes those with tents in the parking, cc don't call the bank, load up buses from the south and storm two northeast banks type of folks, honestly don't you realize that only you guys are causing this delay, so chill folks just stop doing this crap and act as professionals waiting your turn with ordinance and respect.
I take this time to tell these owner of sites lets shut up do not give out any info and just be back when we get the call this way we will rv fast and the things above mentioned just will stop from happening, think about it.
And finally the” I curse your mother out “people, yes those haters of everything good, yea you the ones that think that's its either your way or it ain't, yea the certain folks that we decent Christian folk would never immulate or follow, you seem to know all answers, you seem to think yourselves wiser than the average intel provider so you seek to hurt them when things don't go your way, you disrespect and curse them, NOW I ASK YOU WHO THE HECK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?
From my perspective with all do respects you are simply nothing to me nor to the rest of this world. All expected is still on track, motion-asn, rates high, cc ready, 800# are up to be given out, IMF intervention-grain of salt not probable, logical. To Puerto Rico best rates ever only in the continental United States period.
Facts folks here is where we really stand, I hate to see as a third person how they are using some really good folks and sites to create confusion, mayhem and havoc to you who only deserve only our best. Be blessed everyone, happy journeys, BLUWOLF
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Friday
Afternoon Dinar Chatter and Opinions
11/22/2013
From SCBANKER - emailed to Recaps
PLEASE consider posting this - for it will prevent a lot of frustration and
anger among folks.
The ONE PERSON - ONE APPOINTMENT rule was slightly overstated. Husband &
wife who want to establish joint accounts for deposit of their Dinar exchange
funds MUST go TOGETHER to the bank. Each need to take their own original SSN
card, your ID documents - primary being a DL or state issued ID card, passport
or military ID. Another form of ID that containing your name and physical
address (your address on your ID forms CANNOT be a PO BOX per the USA Patriot
Act - regardless of what one guru keeps saying about never using your physical
address).
BOTH of you will need to sign the signature cards, applications for debit cards,
credit cards, and other account opening documents. If only one spouse is
present it will slow down the process of your account opening and access to
your funds. Husband and wife - got to the bank together.
Now for church groups, friends, mother-son/daughter who have jointly purchased
some Dinar - split it at home and YES - make separate appointments.
....
Read More Link on Right
TNT:
EternalWealth: Certainty.....the difference between winning and
losing. A must see video http://youtu.be/BcXYB-4kOl4
This is an incredible video by Anthony Robbins, it will without question help
you in your mental focus as we continue on in our journey!
**********
[gnosis] Here is my take on what Tony is saying. Many people and many
agencies are a part of this RV/GCR. One of the causes of the delays is
that as it gets close to going live, "something happens" and Tony
mentioned in an aside that there were two agencies that were going back and
forth that the other people/agencies didn't know about which was part of these
delays.
This makes sense that it was some players that would trip it up just before it
went live because they are dickering about some detail that they want to
change. Another factor in the delay is when people are messing with it,
like moving a billion dollars around when they shouldn't, was another aside
that Tony mentioned that happened in the last few days.
SOOO, the strategy that all the players have agree on is to put the release in
a que, which no one knows when it will be spit out. That way, nobody can do
last minute things that could trip it up. Why put the outside time to
Sunday? Because, my guess is that they wanted to give it a wider window specifically
so the rogue players cannot make last minute changes during, for example, a 24
hour window for the que.
They could put the back wall out till Sunday because it is weekend hours and
not regular business hours so the impact of the timing is not that bad AND
it gives it a wider time frame that prevents the scramble of last minute
changes from tripping it up. Just some thoughts.
[ELAINE] gnosis .... Plain and SIMPLE.... The right hand don't know what
the left hand is doing lol lol
[cjrentals] gnosis I think you are right on!
*************
Pharmboyguru: Something Mountain Goat said.....
Mountain Goat.....
"So if you remember all the negotiations going on since April of this year
you can see how the $3.87 was probably a base rate for the IQD used as the
foundation for the revaluation or devaluation of the other 190+ currencies in
the GCR.
If this is the case, and I am being told it is, then it would make sense to
wait until it reaches that rate prior to kicking off the GCR.
If all had gone well last Thursday this rate may have already been reached by
now (Monday) and exchanges would have begun today.
This was the reason for the Thursday thru Sunday windows with exchanges
beginning on Monday that I have mentioned over the last 2 weeks.
I also said this was sensitive information then as to why this four day window
but that you would find out later. Today is later and this is why I was
informing you of this time frame each week. Do you now understand?"
Just thought we should all pay close attention to this part of what Mountain
Goat said. Enjoy your day and remember to always stay POSITIVE!!! :)
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KTFA:
jdtolle » November 22nd, 2013,
Helping others
Helping others helps you, at the very deepest level. Giving real value serves
to create real value in your own life.
By providing encouragement, you receive encouragement. When you teach, you
learn.
Each day is rich with opportunities for you to make a positive difference in
the lives of those around you. And it is through genuinely enriching the lives
of others that you find true richness in your own.
Right here, right now, there is a beautiful way to give of yourself, and to
make the world a better place. Choose to do so, and immediately feel the
benefits begin to manifest.
You have the chance today to change lives for the better. It’s difficult to
imagine anything that could be more fulfilling than that.
Reach out, give a hand, make a difference, and offer a kindness. The lives you
lift will most certainly include your own.
— Ralph Marston
May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/friday-afternoon-dinar-chatter-and-opinions1.html
PLEASE consider posting this - for it will prevent a lot of frustration and anger among folks.
The ONE PERSON - ONE APPOINTMENT rule was slightly overstated. Husband & wife who want to establish joint accounts for deposit of their Dinar exchange funds MUST go TOGETHER to the bank. Each need to take their own original SSN card, your ID documents - primary being a DL or state issued ID card, passport or military ID. Another form of ID that containing your name and physical address (your address on your ID forms CANNOT be a PO BOX per the USA Patriot Act - regardless of what one guru keeps saying about never using your physical address).
BOTH of you will need to sign the signature cards, applications for debit cards, credit cards, and other account opening documents. If only one spouse is present it will slow down the process of your account opening and access to your funds. Husband and wife - got to the bank together.
Now for church groups, friends, mother-son/daughter who have jointly purchased some Dinar - split it at home and YES - make separate appointments.
....
Read More Link on Right
TNT:
EternalWealth: Certainty.....the difference between winning and losing. A must see video http://youtu.be/BcXYB-4kOl4
This is an incredible video by Anthony Robbins, it will without question help you in your mental focus as we continue on in our journey!
**********
[gnosis] Here is my take on what Tony is saying. Many people and many agencies are a part of this RV/GCR. One of the causes of the delays is that as it gets close to going live, "something happens" and Tony mentioned in an aside that there were two agencies that were going back and forth that the other people/agencies didn't know about which was part of these delays.
This makes sense that it was some players that would trip it up just before it went live because they are dickering about some detail that they want to change. Another factor in the delay is when people are messing with it, like moving a billion dollars around when they shouldn't, was another aside that Tony mentioned that happened in the last few days.
SOOO, the strategy that all the players have agree on is to put the release in a que, which no one knows when it will be spit out. That way, nobody can do last minute things that could trip it up. Why put the outside time to Sunday? Because, my guess is that they wanted to give it a wider window specifically so the rogue players cannot make last minute changes during, for example, a 24 hour window for the que.
They could put the back wall out till Sunday because it is weekend hours and not regular business hours so the impact of the timing is not that bad AND it gives it a wider time frame that prevents the scramble of last minute changes from tripping it up. Just some thoughts.
[ELAINE] gnosis .... Plain and SIMPLE.... The right hand don't know what the left hand is doing lol lol
[cjrentals] gnosis I think you are right on!
*************
Pharmboyguru: Something Mountain Goat said.....
Mountain Goat.....
"So if you remember all the negotiations going on since April of this year you can see how the $3.87 was probably a base rate for the IQD used as the foundation for the revaluation or devaluation of the other 190+ currencies in the GCR.
If this is the case, and I am being told it is, then it would make sense to wait until it reaches that rate prior to kicking off the GCR.
If all had gone well last Thursday this rate may have already been reached by now (Monday) and exchanges would have begun today.
This was the reason for the Thursday thru Sunday windows with exchanges beginning on Monday that I have mentioned over the last 2 weeks.
I also said this was sensitive information then as to why this four day window but that you would find out later. Today is later and this is why I was informing you of this time frame each week. Do you now understand?"
Just thought we should all pay close attention to this part of what Mountain Goat said. Enjoy your day and remember to always stay POSITIVE!!! :)
**************************
KTFA:
jdtolle » November 22nd, 2013, Helping others
Helping others helps you, at the very deepest level. Giving real value serves to create real value in your own life.
By providing encouragement, you receive encouragement. When you teach, you learn.
Each day is rich with opportunities for you to make a positive difference in the lives of those around you. And it is through genuinely enriching the lives of others that you find true richness in your own.
Right here, right now, there is a beautiful way to give of yourself, and to make the world a better place. Choose to do so, and immediately feel the benefits begin to manifest.
You have the chance today to change lives for the better. It’s difficult to imagine anything that could be more fulfilling than that.
Reach out, give a hand, make a difference, and offer a kindness. The lives you lift will most certainly include your own.
— Ralph Marston
May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
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TNT
Tony Friday CC Recorded Link..Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U
11/22/2013
REPLAY 805-399-1500 409029#
BlogTalkRadio RECORDED LINK
Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U”
TNT CALL STARTING NOW. T = TONY | C = CALLER. DUPLICATE QUESTIONS AND
TNT-RELATED CHIT-CHAT WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED HERE.
TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a
great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East
Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction,
I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk
about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I
know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is
absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
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T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT
have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process
everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need
$25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If
you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for
an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be
flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and
will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at
that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done -
done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was
released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM
EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was
live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset
for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's
in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than
Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no
later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and
they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was
released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a
few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later
found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it
didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's
not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that
mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened,
i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong
it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a
queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set
certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday
night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at
their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be
automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be
released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in
the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for
us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody
can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no
one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are
what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go
out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because
I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now
out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for
all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to
Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll
step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to
happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting,
will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A -
If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but
it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can
say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it.
They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your
money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD.
Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an
animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in
the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the
exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and
wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST
will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're
operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go
international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not
holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being
compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1
gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I
know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in
place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want
this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is
but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after
activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if
you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If
you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and
themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go
to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM
going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My
understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group,
as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You
have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A -
No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment
separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time
they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call
back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by
state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only
initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I
want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now
they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 - They're not going down in 30 days or less.
They're saying not to worry if you don't CE the first day. They want to get
everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING
NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't
stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow
those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever
happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and
always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't
going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they
actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
C - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment
accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the
2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves
and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I
don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may
have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever
since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The
dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit
and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal
possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It
will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from
both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but
if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to
make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday
so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a
good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me
info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully
jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there
were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't
think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it
this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our
PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they
want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the
numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get
hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a
new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the
rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the
Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change
their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but
they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You
can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in
our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us.
She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put
all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any
yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their
plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really
that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between
now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to
Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the attorney.
T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have
20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you
longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with
that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers
checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we
call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your
spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going
to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the
wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking
area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know
everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high
school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said
"you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go
to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The
bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even
though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I
don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect
window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is
go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found
wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I
wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have
carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club
together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you
and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would
absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after
I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say
post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and
tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to
sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to
check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If
people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you,
they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They
got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they
handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might
give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I
don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about
Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until
Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on
purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in
DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they
missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told
me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy,
the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their
currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will
stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one,
and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the
1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to
tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will
have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with
us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have
the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T -
They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then
they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an
appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland
Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier
Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's
not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you
want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are
there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none.
I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So
I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I
will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in
motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the
IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and
sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in
place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to
the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast
everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when
to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
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"So if you remember all the negotiations going on since
April of this year you can see how the $3.87 was probably a base rate for the
IQD used as the foundation for the revaluation or devaluation of the other 190+
currencies in the GCR.
If this is the case, and I am being told it is, then it would make sense to
wait until it reaches that rate prior to kicking off the GCR.
If all had gone well last Thursday this rate may have already been reached by
now (Monday) and exchanges would have begun today.
This was the reason for the Thursday thru Sunday windows with exchanges
beginning on Monday that I have mentioned over the last 2 weeks.
I also said this was sensitive information then as to why this four day window
but that you would find out later. Today is later and this is why I was
informing you of this time frame each week. Do you now understand?"
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loechin
As
to where we are I am looking at some awesome information that has just came to
my attention and I will be either doing a call or a blast this evening.
TNT Tony Friday CC
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TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a
great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East
Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction,
I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk
about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I
know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is
absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
....
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T-What happened in NY DID NOT stop the RV, even though a lot of
people thought it did. They can't do that, not going to allow busloads of
people showing up at the bank. If you show up at the bank in a busload, you
will not be allowed into the bank. Period. If you show up in groups, you will
not be allowed in the bank (4 or more). Keep going back with your one person.
They ARE concerned about security. I didn't say it would stop the RV. Just
don't be part of this mob mentality that will shut things down and we'll have
to wait all over again. The RV will be done. The GCR will be done. We'll just
be waiting for them to develop another plan to deal with crazy people doing
things like this.
T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT
have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process
everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need
$25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If
you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for
an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be
flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and
will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at
that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done -
done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was
released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM
EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was
live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset
for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's
in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than
Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no
later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and
they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was
released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a
few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later
found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it
didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's
not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that
mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened,
i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong
it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a
queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set
certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday
night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at
their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be
automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be
released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in
the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for
us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody
can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no
one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are
what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go
out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because
I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now
out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for
all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to
Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll
step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to
happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting,
will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A -
If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but
it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can
say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it.
They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your
money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD.
Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an
animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in
the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the
exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and
wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST
will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're
operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go
international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not
holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being
compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1
gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I
know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in
place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want
this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is
but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after
activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if
you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If
you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and
themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go
to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM
going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My
understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group,
as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You
have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A -
No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment
separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time
they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call
back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by
state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only
initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I
want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 -
They're not going down in 30 days or less. They're saying not to worry if you
don't CE the first day. They want to get everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't
stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow
those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever
happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and
always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't
going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they
actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
C - If this goes to the wall to Sunday night and CL takes over, what does that
do to everything? T - They want this to be done now. The WH, every agency, the
IMF, and it's in the system and should be out by Sunday. They want this to
happen so we'll have a prosperous Christmas and last quarter. I'm sure they
don't want it to happen on a holiday.
C - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment
accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the
2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves
and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I
don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may
have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever
since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The
dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit
and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal
possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It
will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from
both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but
if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to
make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday
so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a
good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me
info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully
jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there
were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't
think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it
this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our
PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they
want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the
numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get
hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a
new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the
rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the
Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change
their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but
they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You
can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in
our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us.
She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put
all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any
yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their
plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really
that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between
now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to
Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the
attorney. T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds
coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have
20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you
longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with
that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers
checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we
call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your
spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going
to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the
wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking
area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know
everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high
school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said
"you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go
to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The
bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even
though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I
don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect
window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is
go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found
wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I
wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have
carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club
together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you
and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would
absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after
I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say
post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and
tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to
sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to
check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If
people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you,
they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They
got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they
handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might
give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I
don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about
Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until
Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on
purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in
DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they
missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told
me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy,
the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their
currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will
stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one,
and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the
1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to
tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will
have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with
us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have
the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T -
They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then
they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an
appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland
Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier
Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's
not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you
want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none.
I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So
I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I
will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in
motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the
IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and
sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in
place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to
the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast
everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when
to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
Hi John,
Since we are all on the scout to find out what is REALLY
going on, thought I'd pass along something that TerryK has just said. That
maybe for once, TerryK might know what he is talking about. So a few questions
come to my mind.
1. What do you think about this really being the hold up
of the RV? Are we waiting for the gold standard to be issued? And, possibly the
Republic?
2. What is this about there is NO such thing as the 800
#'s? Really? Was that all a lie, too?
[TERRYK] ANYONE HEARING ANYTHING
[TERRYK] AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS 800 NUMBERS FOR
THIS I TALKED TO WF AND THEY SAID THE ONLY 800 NUMBER IS THE STANDARD HELP DESK
NUMBER THATS IT [TERRYK] AND INVESTEMENT 800 NUMBERS TO COME IN AND DISCUSS
BANKING ACTIVITY [TERRYK] NOT FOR A RV [TERRYK] IN FACT MY BUDDY LAUGHS AT THAT
WHEN HE HEARS ABOUT IT
[oilerfan] so is there a stampede to the Banks after this
is released a free for all then or what ??
[espressoking]
arizona49 WOW light bub just went off Thanks TK
[arizona49] espressoking hang here and you will always
get the straightforward scoop from TK
[ericasmom]
do you forsee this happening anytime in the near future
Thank You!!
11/22/2013
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TNT CALL STARTING NOW. T = TONY | C = CALLER. DUPLICATE QUESTIONS AND TNT-RELATED CHIT-CHAT WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED HERE.
TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction, I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
....
Read More Link on Right
BlogTalkRadio RECORDED LINK
Notes by FlPatriot59 at I4U”
TNT CALL STARTING NOW. T = TONY | C = CALLER. DUPLICATE QUESTIONS AND TNT-RELATED CHIT-CHAT WILL NOT BE TRANSCRIBED HERE.
TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction, I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
....
Read More Link on Right
T-What happened in NY DID
NOT stop the RV, even though a lot of people thought it did. They can't do
that, not going to allow busloads of people showing up at the bank. If you show
up at the bank in a busload, you will not be allowed into the bank. Period. If
you show up in groups, you will not be allowed in the bank (4 or more). Keep
going back with your one person. They ARE concerned about security. I didn't
say it would stop the RV. Just don't be part of this mob mentality that will
shut things down and we'll have to wait all over again. The RV will be done.
The GCR will be done. We'll just be waiting for them to develop another plan to
deal with crazy people doing things like this.
T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need $25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done - done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened, i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting, will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A - If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it. They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD. Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1 gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group, as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A - No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 - They're not going down in 30 days or less. They're saying not to worry if you don't CE the first day. They want to get everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need $25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done - done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened, i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting, will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A - If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it. They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD. Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1 gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group, as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A - No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 - They're not going down in 30 days or less. They're saying not to worry if you don't CE the first day. They want to get everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
C -
If this goes to the wall to Sunday night and CL takes over, what does that do
to everything? T - They want this to be done now. The WH, every agency, the
IMF, and it's in the system and should be out by Sunday. They want this to
happen so we'll have a prosperous Christmas and last quarter. I'm sure they
don't want it to happen on a holiday.
C - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the 2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us. She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the attorney. T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have 20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said "you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you, they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy, the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one, and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the 1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T - They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none. I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/tnt-tony-friday-cc-recorded-linknotes-by-flpatriot59-at-i4u2.htmlC - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the 2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us. She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the attorney. T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have 20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said "you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you, they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy, the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one, and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the 1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T - They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none. I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
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"So if you remember all the negotiations going on since April of this year you can see how the $3.87 was probably a base rate for the IQD used as the foundation for the revaluation or devaluation of the other 190+ currencies in the GCR.
If this is the case, and I am being told it is, then it would make sense to wait until it reaches that rate prior to kicking off the GCR.
If all had gone well last Thursday this rate may have already been reached by now (Monday) and exchanges would have begun today.
This was the reason for the Thursday thru Sunday windows with exchanges beginning on Monday that I have mentioned over the last 2 weeks.
I also said this was sensitive information then as to why this four day window but that you would find out later. Today is later and this is why I was informing you of this time frame each week. Do you now understand?"
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TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction, I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
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TONY - Good morning, TNT! It's Friday, November 22, 2013. It's going to be a great day. I didn't do a blast last night because I didn't want to wake up East Coast peeps with no real different news. We have some good news and new direction, I think, that they asked me to put out and tell you. But first, I have to talk about 2 other things. (DISCUSSION NOW ABOUT TNT POST-RV EVENTS).
TONY - First or all, you want to know what is the backdoor for all of this? I know yesterday was ridiculous, with the bus stories in NY and TX. This is absolultely happening. I'm getting it from DC and the agencies.
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T-What happened in NY DID NOT stop the RV, even though a lot of
people thought it did. They can't do that, not going to allow busloads of
people showing up at the bank. If you show up at the bank in a busload, you
will not be allowed into the bank. Period. If you show up in groups, you will
not be allowed in the bank (4 or more). Keep going back with your one person.
They ARE concerned about security. I didn't say it would stop the RV. Just
don't be part of this mob mentality that will shut things down and we'll have
to wait all over again. The RV will be done. The GCR will be done. We'll just
be waiting for them to develop another plan to deal with crazy people doing
things like this.
T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need $25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done - done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened, i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting, will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A - If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it. They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD. Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1 gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group, as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A - No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 - They're not going down in 30 days or less. They're saying not to worry if you don't CE the first day. They want to get everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
C - If this goes to the wall to Sunday night and CL takes over, what does that do to everything? T - They want this to be done now. The WH, every agency, the IMF, and it's in the system and should be out by Sunday. They want this to happen so we'll have a prosperous Christmas and last quarter. I'm sure they don't want it to happen on a holiday.
C - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the 2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us. She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the attorney. T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have 20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said "you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you, they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy, the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one, and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the 1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T - They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none. I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
=============================================T - I was giving them ideas to help with making this happen orderly. You DO NOT have to be the 1st one to the bank, on the first day. They are going to process everyone and in an orderly fashion in the first 5-7 days. If you don't need $25K, then wait for your appointment.
T - They will start appointments 2 hours after the activation/announcement. If you have millions of dinars, let the $25K note folks go first. Don't call for an appointment if you only have one or two notes. All the banks will be flexible. WF will require you to make an appointment. The rates are high and will get you excited.
T - On Wednesday when I did the call, I was looking for the RV and 800#s at that time. Yesterday morning we got confirmation that the RV process is done - done again - in that the IMF did everything they were supposed to do and it was released to the UST. It was then released to the banks. Yesterday at 7AM, 8AM EST, if you were in the banks you could have cashed out at that moment. It was live. By the time the banks opened at 9AM the screens were blank being reset for the final release.
T - The word that we got yesterday is "congrats, you have an RV and it's in the system and can't be turned back and you'll see it no later than Sunday." We said, "WHAT?" It could in the next 5 minutes but no later than Sunday, so we waited all day. Everybody was in place yesterday and they were told we would be coming in the door and exchanging.
T - I didn't do a blast because I wanted to wait and see if it really was released. But I didn't understand how the entire GCR was being controlled by a few US banks. It didn't make sense. That's why I didn't make a blast. We later found out we didn't get all the pieces to the puzzle. Everybody was upset it didn't go, i.e., DC people, Iraq, etc. that we did not get to the bank. It's not complete until we are at the bank.
T - Yet they're saying it's complete but we're not at the banks? What does that mean? So many times they set a time for it to go. But something else happened, i.e., somebody moved money, changed a rate, etc. a reason or excuse to prolong it. They finally figured out a way to solve all of that and they put it in a queue and the system will determine when it will go, NOT A PERSON. They set certain parameters for it to go and from this point on until sometime Sunday night it will be automated and will go.
T - Nobody can cheat the system. Nobody knows exactly when. Nobody can sit at their computers moving trillions around. It's now in the system and will be automatically triggered by the system not by a person. Then the 800#s will be released and we start the party and go to the bank. This is what we want - in the system. We don't want it under any one person's control and that's good for us. Every agency says it will go. Some think Sunday is too far out but nobody can stop it.
T - The rates are still the same - they're high. Somebody posted $40+ but no one in the banks are seeing that. The rates have maintained. The same rates are what we know: 38, 10, 1.08, .22
T - Iraq was briefed last night on the new monetary system. Does everybody go out and buy more dinar? NO! Do you go out an place more on reserve? NO! Because I don't know this will happen for 1000% certainty. But everybody says it's now out of human hands so no one can cheat or lie. It will go "live" for all countries all at the same time.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM ....
Q - How long can Iraq wait? A - The cards are loaded 5 different ways to Sunday, contractors, different people, etc. and they are spending.
Q - At what point will CL step in? A - If not done by Tuesday morning she'll step in and have 48 hours to make it happen. But we don't expect that to happen.
Q - At the 1st appointment if they give us a lower rate than you are reporting, will we fall into a trap by asking for the rate that Toney is telling us? A - If you do that you are out of your mind. I'm giving you the correct info, but it's the banking system. I don't control anything. Don't do that! Nobody can say "Tony said." It won't help your situation.
T - I don't think they should charge you a fee - they'll make money off of it. They've been instructed to make you happy and not let you walk out with your money.
Q - It's been reported there will be a Forex and the bank rate for the IQD. Will there be a similar 2-tier rate for the VNN? A - No, I think the IQN is an animal all on its own.
Q - You mentioned $10 for the VNN. Is that for a short period of time just in the US? A - The VNN is against the USD for a short period of time. Call the exchangers and see if they can work with you online. If it's just a sell and wire ask if they can do that for you.
Q - When will the 800#s be released? A - When the system is activated. The UST will release them to TNT and a few others. The banks do have them and they're operational, since last Tuesday. This lets us know how far along we are.
Q - Has Iraq announced it yet? A - They are still waiting for it to go international. The new rates are on their cards and they're happy. They're not holding this up, the USA is. They won't like me saying this but it's like being compared to Obamacare - you didn't anticipate this or that? Did the world's #1 gov't not expect this would happen? Maybe this is more than they expected. I know for a fact they are listening to this call: there must be something in place for the moment, day, etc. after this is announced. If you REALLY want this to go smooth we should be working on that part now. I don't care who it is but there has to be somebody they can go to for info after it's announced.
T - There has to be a single place they can go to get the best info after activation.
Q - Have they come up with another plan if there are bank rushes? A - Yes, if you're in a bus - no service. If you're more than 2-3 people - no service. If you cause a commotion - no service. They're trying to protect the process and themselves.
Q - When will the 30 days start? A - That starts the 1st day when we get to go to the bank.
Q - Will the rates go down due to the delays? VND not in double digits? ZIM going down? A - No, the ZIM is still at .22 - six zeros dropped. My understanding is that the VND is still in double digits.
Q - Is there anything about the group 11% fees? A - Only if part of the WF group, as I've heard.
Q - Will the dealers be competitive? A - Yes, within a couple of pennies. You have to decide.
Q - My mother is visually impaired. Can we get appointments close together? A - No, go with them at their scheduled appointment and go to your own appointment separately. When you call the 800# you have 2 minutes. If you take more time they will either hand you off to a supervisor or hang up on you. When you call back you'll be at the back of the queue.
Q - Will every bank have the same NDA? A - It could vary a little state by state, but they should all be the same.
Q - When we call should we use a Trac Phone to make the appointment, give only initials, etc.? A - When I call I'm giving my birth name, my zip code where I want to CE and my new email address. I want to cash out.
Q - Are the rates going down? A - Right now they're 38.86/10.87/1.02/.22 - They're not going down in 30 days or less. They're saying not to worry if you don't CE the first day. They want to get everybody in.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - Are you confident if that continues something will stop it? T - It didn't stop the rv and hasn't and they do see it as security problem. They won't allow those people to stop this. They've beefed up security.
C - How can the banks continue to call in their people when nothing ever happens? That's not good business sense. T - They are just like you and me and always think they are going to go with it. Last week the bank said they weren't going to call in their people anymore until it really happens, but they actually did.
T - They asked me to do a blast but I wanted to know it was going to happen.
C - If this goes to the wall to Sunday night and CL takes over, what does that do to everything? T - They want this to be done now. The WH, every agency, the IMF, and it's in the system and should be out by Sunday. They want this to happen so we'll have a prosperous Christmas and last quarter. I'm sure they don't want it to happen on a holiday.
C - Since we're 2 hours from the city, can we ask for an appointment accordingly? A - I don't know but they may give you 2 days and you can take the 2nd day.
C - Our plan is to cash in what we have in hand and then payoff the reserves and ask for another appointment. T - You can have multiple appointments but I don't know how long it will take you to take care of those reserves. You may have to wait for the reserves. If it goes down we still got the best deal ever since we were expecting $3+.
C - Is the VND really that high? T - Yes, and here's the rationalization: The dinar is the reserve currency for the US and is going to wipe out our deficit and secure our future. China came into this late and had to get the best deal possible. They are going to use the VND like we are going to use the IQD. It will increase their foreign currency and we are going to get the rewards from both countries. This is the justification for it going up.
C - If we are invested in the VND do we have to have an appointment? T - No but if you go to the bank with $100M VND they will ask you to set an appointment to make that exchange.
C - I am disappointed, here we go with another broke weekend into the holiday so I hope that they listen and have some compassion so that people can have a good Thanksgiving. T - Guys when I get the phone calls and they are giving me info, they are trying to get this done. It's not that they are purposefully jerking us around. This is just the way business is done. For example, there were 2 agencies going back and forth and no one was aware of it so I don't think anything was done on purpose. Now they are eliminating this and trying it this way this time.
C - You mentioned that WF might require us to call their 800# instead of our PB? T - Coming from their call centers, they have new instructions that they want everybody to go through their 800#s. I wouldn't wait - call as soon as the numbers come out. Call the 800#, call and make your appointment then try to get hold of your PB. If he won't answer your call over the weekend you might get a new PB.
C - What number do we ask for at the appointment? T - We'll try to get the rates for you as they come out and post them on all our sites and in the Forum/Chat Room. That will be their current rate at that moment. Banks change their rates constantly. You can check their rates on their websites, but they're going to go with the rate they see on their screen at that moment. You can ask to see the screen right then.
C - If CL takes it over will we get the lower rates? T - Yes, we will. It's in our hands right now and if something goes wrong it will be squarely go on us. She always said if she has to do it'll go back to 3.44.
T - We went through the whole day and they said "it's done." They put all the pieces together. They said they released it to the system.
C - Is there a new currency for Viet Nam? T - I haven't seen or heard of any yet. They would have to because of all the zeros. They have not exposed their plan yet.
C - If this goes to CL the banks and USA will lose out on billions. T -I really that that is not going to happen. It is in the system and will pop up between now and Sunday. I don't think it's going that far. Parameters are today to Sunday.
C - Can we still take an attorney with us? It would be me, my husband and the attorney. T - Yes, that should be fine. They just don't want to see crowds coming in.
C - Can we still get cashier's checks at the appointment? T - Yes, you'll have 20 minutes, so have your list of checks you want. Some banks will give you longer than 20 minutes if they're in rural areas, others will be strict with that 20 minutes. They may ask you to go to another branch to get cashiers checks.
C - Will we give the names of the people going in to the appointment when we call the 800#? T - Not that I know of. The appointment is for you and your spouse & attorney (if you take one with you).
C - I am more reassured to call the 800# because the other folks are just going to commercial banks and not cashout centers. T - They are showing up at the wrong locations and what bank can accommodate busloads of people?
C - Would you go to a local bank in a smaller area or go to a larger banking area? T - This is my personal opinion, but I don't want everybody to know everything about me, so I would go to a larger banking area. When I was in high school I was awarded MVP for football. Then everywhere I went people said "you've changed." I would respond "no, I'm me." If you go to the local bank and deposit $100M before you get home everyone will know. The bank teller will tell her husband at dinner and the kids will overhear it, even though they're not supposed to.
C - Will this ever show up on Forex? T - Sooner or later it will but when I don't know. I don't think it will until it goes live at that rate. The perfect window is when it doesn't show. When it's at such a high rate all it can do is go down.
C - Why will you be shutting down the site? T - We can talk about our new-found wealth, investment opportunities, etc., but no talk about dinar. Even if I wanted to, I've been told to shut the site down. The new site will be www.tntsuperfantastic.com. I have carried the torch long enough and someone else can put an investment club together. I don't want to be responsible for it. I'm tired!
T - I do want to help everybody through this process. I want to be here for you and tell you what to do at this point. If there's a way to do that I would absolutely love to do that. But if they won't let me I can't, especially after I sign the NDA. We'll just have to see what happens.
CALLER is summarzing what Tony has been recommending regarding what to say post-NDA. T - Make a list of those people who they gave dinar to, call them and tell them what you know right now, explain it now, tell them you are going to sign an NDA and do all of that b4 you do the CE. Tell them to go to the bank to check it out. The people you gave it to should be smart enough to do it. If people aren't registered on a site and haven't done the research like you, they're just lottery winners. They won't be prepared to know what to do. They got money for nothing. They didn't do anything for it.
C - I'm thinking about making appointments with all 4 major banks and if they handle me good then I will cancel the others three. Is that okay? T - One might give an appointment at 8AM and another at 8PM. If I call my PB and he said I don't know if we are going to do this then I wouldn't trust him.
C - I know they are saying they wanted it by Christmas but what about Thanksgiving? T - They want it done today. They are not trying to wait until Christmas or Thanksgiving. Not even Monday morning. Nobody is holding it up on purpose at this time. They're all saying "why hasn't it happened?" in DC. Some are paying the price today for not thinking of these little steps they missed and putting in on hold. How could they have not expected that to happen?
C - What was said in the mosques in Iraq this morning? T - They actually told me not to say what I got. But they did tell them about the new monetary policy, the new notes, that millions of people around the world had invested in their currency, about Japan, Korea, US, etc. doing oil deals with them that will stimulate their currency.
C - Are they still planning a second basket in 30 days following the first one, and, if so, is the USD part of that? T - There is a 2nd basket planned for the 1st quarter 2014 but I'm not sure about the USD being part of it. I'll have to tell you later.
C - When we go in to do the CE on the IQN, we will, most of us I imagine, will have to create that new acct in the 20 min appt. Most cannot take atty. with us. When we do that, we are contracting with the bank. We are not going to have the opportunity to know what that contract is about in that 20 minutes. T - They will open a premiere account for you. You will deposit you rmoney and then they will tell you the wealth manager will contact you. Then you set up an appointment with them and you set up everything else. The NDA is from Homeland Security.
T - You can go to the bank today and ask for documentation on their Premier Account. Take it home and read up on it before you go to your appointment. It's not your basic account. Tell them you plan to deposit $2M next week and you want to see the docs. Same thing when you open an account online. The docs are there.
C - Is there an approved "company line" yet? T - No, there is none. I'm concerned about you guys saying something crazy and losing your money. So I'm asking the PTB so we can help with that. If they give me something to say I will share it.
T - I'm at the end of my time now. It's a great day and everything is in motion. Every agency has been satisfied after it didn't happen last night. the IMF released it to the UST and then to the banks. It's in the system and sometime between now and Sunday night we should see it. The parameters are in place. Everyone now understands. Don't stare at the clocks and don't listen to the idiots. They don't know what they don't know. Don't expect a blast everytime someone says something. It's here - the rates are high - we know when to expect it. So enjoy your day!
END OF CALL.
Hi John,
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BluWolf
Update Early Friday AM
11/22/2013
11/22/13 Bluwolf: Update
of the morning; Rocket launchers meet there doom, ok a lot of rubbish talk
negative towards all informants is now in session, a lot of unhappy campers in
the scenarios,
A lot of confusion ( which I expected to begin with ), a lot of idiots stampeding towards the banks, a lot of calls to the banks, a lot of rocket scientist saying that it didn't happen that way stating to bring them the proof so there idiotic brains can feed on something.
You know I laugh for all that I have said across the years is finally happening to the last word to the minute,
You will see the WF 800# just about now, cc are occupied now, rates are high, I always said get in and get out within the first 3days so there you have it… some are now saying high rates only for 10 days, truth being it doesn't work that way not at all.
A two digit rate on the dong its not going to happen, a lot of misconceptions out there floating away from reality and a lot of people fade in away in its mist, what have you ? My advice at this time FOCUS for if you do not you will just fail.. Its your loss not mine....Bluwolf
A lot of confusion ( which I expected to begin with ), a lot of idiots stampeding towards the banks, a lot of calls to the banks, a lot of rocket scientist saying that it didn't happen that way stating to bring them the proof so there idiotic brains can feed on something.
You know I laugh for all that I have said across the years is finally happening to the last word to the minute,
You will see the WF 800# just about now, cc are occupied now, rates are high, I always said get in and get out within the first 3days so there you have it… some are now saying high rates only for 10 days, truth being it doesn't work that way not at all.
A two digit rate on the dong its not going to happen, a lot of misconceptions out there floating away from reality and a lot of people fade in away in its mist, what have you ? My advice at this time FOCUS for if you do not you will just fail.. Its your loss not mine....Bluwolf
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Tidbits from TNT Members Early Friday Morning
11/22/2013
Angelic030401 (tnt forum moderator) at 1:18am est 11/22/13 tony
said he will not do a blast and wake up the east coast because there is not
enough info to do a blast. Call center personnel are at the centers at this
time, waiting for activation. That's all he has. He said he was hoping to blast
the 800#s, but he doesn't have them yet. Everyone is still expecting this before the banks open
in the morning. If he gets them tonight he will wake you up. Tntdinar 11/22/13
[luvwulfs] Spguru wrote Nov 21st @09:14pm: I know based on my info that no matter what happens great or delay you will not miss out so don't stay up unless it doesn't effect your life ok. I tell it straight up. I know how the appts r been done so take that as a heads up you will not miss out because you sleep
Spguru wrote Nov 21st @09:15pm: I pretty sure tony is waiting for confirmation we have been told is coming so I will let him proceed and just confirm or update as it comes out.
Loechin....This has been a week of excitement and depression for most of us. At 7:45 this Friday morning we are still looking for the 800's to reach us. I can and will stand by the fact that the Banks have them and we wait for them. The right people have been told no more waiting Do It Now. The system is running with no issues. The rates are still holding but if this goes beyond what CL has said and she has to kick butt we may not be as happy as we will be right now....
[luvwulfs] Spguru wrote Nov 21st @09:14pm: I know based on my info that no matter what happens great or delay you will not miss out so don't stay up unless it doesn't effect your life ok. I tell it straight up. I know how the appts r been done so take that as a heads up you will not miss out because you sleep
Spguru wrote Nov 21st @09:15pm: I pretty sure tony is waiting for confirmation we have been told is coming so I will let him proceed and just confirm or update as it comes out.
Loechin....This has been a week of excitement and depression for most of us. At 7:45 this Friday morning we are still looking for the 800's to reach us. I can and will stand by the fact that the Banks have them and we wait for them. The right people have been told no more waiting Do It Now. The system is running with no issues. The rates are still holding but if this goes beyond what CL has said and she has to kick butt we may not be as happy as we will be right now....
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DINARES
GURUS: A BANK STORY FROM TNT FORUM, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-bank-story-from-tnt-forum-21-nov.html
A Bank Story
PB = private banker
PM = private messages
WF = Wells Fargo
6:32 PM Karen and Bob: My chat room friend and fellow transcriber, dakotaman, WAS at the bank today!!!!!!! Now who would like him to tell his story?????
6:32 PM dakotaman: I went and emailed my PB at WF if he wanted to take care of my exchange or should i use the 800 system?
6:32 PM dakotaman: Ten minutes later the response, "I will definitely take care of you. How soon can you come in?”
6:33 PM dakotaman: I set the appointment for 2 this afternoon eastern.
6:33 PM dakotaman: Packed all the stuff into a briefcase and went today. Cool as a cucumber
6:34 PM dakotaman: I arrived on time. I went in and he said what would you like to exchange today? How much do you hold in hand? Is it here?
6:35 PM dakotaman: He loves foreign currency. He examined the IQN,VNN,ZWN and IDN loved the watermarks
6:37 PM cj101: Dakotaman. Is that the story? You took the funny colored paper into the bank, you were well received, and the banker liked the watermarks on the funny money???
6:37 PM dakotaman: OK so anyway he calls the exchange location which I know where that is anyway right near the airport
6:38 PM dakotaman: He spoke with a woman there at length she was bringing him up to snuff
6:39 PM dakotaman: Long story short he learned that he jumped the gun. Although he was saying it was to revalue all the while he learned otherwise.
6:39 PM dakotaman: He apologized to me twice, I was disappointed but not surprised.
6:40 PM cj101: dakotaman. So you didn't get paid for an exchange but you got first hand confirmation that the RV is imminent? Is that right??? That is GREAATT!! You must have floated home!
6:40 PM dakotaman: He says that it is close but that he thought through the urgency of email that it was already done.
6:40 PM dakotaman: We sat and brought each other up to speed on what each other knew.
6:41 PM Karen and Bob: dakotaman While we all wish that you HAD been able to exchange your pretty paper ... we are much happier to know you'll be here with all of us transcribing tomorrows call & keeping us company tonight! We would've missed you!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation.
6:42 PM wewillsee: to Dakotaman did he give you a hint as to when?
6:41 PM dakotaman: I now know the varieties of perks available, he knows where I wish to be, how much control I can accept and expect.
6:41 PM Lake Lady: to dakotaman Karen and Bob all good news!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation!
6:43 PM dakotaman: I didn’t come away rich in money but i came away rich in knowledge, experience. This was a DRY run and very good dry run. I found that the security concerns aren’t there at least not here
6:43 PM a_li'l_fox: to dakotaman do you mind if i ask what bank? was it one of the big ones Tony talks of?
6:45 PM dakotaman: I will now address the PMs I been knocking down for the past ten minutes. I debated for the past 4 hours whether to say anything or not.
I decided that if the calm and reassurance reached one other person then I could deal with all the idiots that just wanted to laugh or make fun.
There ya have it, 80 minutes spent with a PB. We are nearly there.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:35 PM
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DINARES GURUS: OKIE UPDATE, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/okie-update-21-nov.html
[..okieoilman] I AM RECEIVING VERY POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MAY TRANSPIRE IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT TONIGHT--PRAY THIS IS SO
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:36 PM
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DINARES GURUS: SPGURU POST UPDATE, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/spguru-post-update-21-nov.html
Spguru wrote Nov 21st @02:53pm: friends best thing right now is not to try and figure it out, i know that is hard but tony is helping you a lot wait for him.
Spguru @ 03:10 pm pst: ok so just picked out my fortune cookie "your life will be prosperous". well if true then all of you will be right there too "hint". I tell you I don’t comment on other info but trust TNT and Tony, trust Okie.
SPGuru @ 04:53 pm pst: Ok so here is what you been looking for. I known all day that new times had been set. The time is soon and it is more evident that is still coming. So enjoy your evening be back after football game to confirm things are still going forward for all of your blessings. Need a break just like all off you. Remember time is on our side now and exact nobody know that but it is coming.
@ 05:01 pm pst: thanks everyone also spending time with the kids soup cold bad weather and football. sports family. I hope you all enjoy your evening. Even the naysayers can we all just have a great night of piece between it all for one night please. Thanks I really understand how you all feel.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:46 PM
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DINARES GURUS: LOECHIN UPDATE : MORE ENCOURAGEMENT!!, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/loechin-update-more-encouragement-21-nov.html
11:40 AM Central time......loechin: This is ALL I will say today, the process as you know it is OVER.
And what you care about is OVER. The RV is over, and the Banks in fact have the RV
in hand and will release it to us when they are ready again to do it end of story guys.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:47 PM
========================================================================================http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-bank-story-from-tnt-forum-21-nov.html
A Bank Story
PB = private banker
PM = private messages
WF = Wells Fargo
6:32 PM Karen and Bob: My chat room friend and fellow transcriber, dakotaman, WAS at the bank today!!!!!!! Now who would like him to tell his story?????
6:32 PM dakotaman: I went and emailed my PB at WF if he wanted to take care of my exchange or should i use the 800 system?
6:32 PM dakotaman: Ten minutes later the response, "I will definitely take care of you. How soon can you come in?”
6:33 PM dakotaman: I set the appointment for 2 this afternoon eastern.
6:33 PM dakotaman: Packed all the stuff into a briefcase and went today. Cool as a cucumber
6:34 PM dakotaman: I arrived on time. I went in and he said what would you like to exchange today? How much do you hold in hand? Is it here?
6:35 PM dakotaman: He loves foreign currency. He examined the IQN,VNN,ZWN and IDN loved the watermarks
6:37 PM cj101: Dakotaman. Is that the story? You took the funny colored paper into the bank, you were well received, and the banker liked the watermarks on the funny money???
6:37 PM dakotaman: OK so anyway he calls the exchange location which I know where that is anyway right near the airport
6:38 PM dakotaman: He spoke with a woman there at length she was bringing him up to snuff
6:39 PM dakotaman: Long story short he learned that he jumped the gun. Although he was saying it was to revalue all the while he learned otherwise.
6:39 PM dakotaman: He apologized to me twice, I was disappointed but not surprised.
6:40 PM cj101: dakotaman. So you didn't get paid for an exchange but you got first hand confirmation that the RV is imminent? Is that right??? That is GREAATT!! You must have floated home!
6:40 PM dakotaman: He says that it is close but that he thought through the urgency of email that it was already done.
6:40 PM dakotaman: We sat and brought each other up to speed on what each other knew.
6:41 PM Karen and Bob: dakotaman While we all wish that you HAD been able to exchange your pretty paper ... we are much happier to know you'll be here with all of us transcribing tomorrows call & keeping us company tonight! We would've missed you!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation.
6:42 PM wewillsee: to Dakotaman did he give you a hint as to when?
6:41 PM dakotaman: I now know the varieties of perks available, he knows where I wish to be, how much control I can accept and expect.
6:41 PM Lake Lady: to dakotaman Karen and Bob all good news!
6:42 PM cj101: dakotaman. That is very cool! Thank you for sharing. I'm glad for you. Not quite a pay day but a great confirmation!
6:43 PM dakotaman: I didn’t come away rich in money but i came away rich in knowledge, experience. This was a DRY run and very good dry run. I found that the security concerns aren’t there at least not here
6:43 PM a_li'l_fox: to dakotaman do you mind if i ask what bank? was it one of the big ones Tony talks of?
6:45 PM dakotaman: I will now address the PMs I been knocking down for the past ten minutes. I debated for the past 4 hours whether to say anything or not.
I decided that if the calm and reassurance reached one other person then I could deal with all the idiots that just wanted to laugh or make fun.
There ya have it, 80 minutes spent with a PB. We are nearly there.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:35 PM
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DINARES GURUS: OKIE UPDATE, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/okie-update-21-nov.html
[..okieoilman] I AM RECEIVING VERY POSITIVE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MAY TRANSPIRE IN THE WEE HOURS OF THE NIGHT TONIGHT--PRAY THIS IS SO
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:36 PM
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DINARES GURUS: SPGURU POST UPDATE, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/spguru-post-update-21-nov.html
Spguru wrote Nov 21st @02:53pm: friends best thing right now is not to try and figure it out, i know that is hard but tony is helping you a lot wait for him.
Spguru @ 03:10 pm pst: ok so just picked out my fortune cookie "your life will be prosperous". well if true then all of you will be right there too "hint". I tell you I don’t comment on other info but trust TNT and Tony, trust Okie.
SPGuru @ 04:53 pm pst: Ok so here is what you been looking for. I known all day that new times had been set. The time is soon and it is more evident that is still coming. So enjoy your evening be back after football game to confirm things are still going forward for all of your blessings. Need a break just like all off you. Remember time is on our side now and exact nobody know that but it is coming.
@ 05:01 pm pst: thanks everyone also spending time with the kids soup cold bad weather and football. sports family. I hope you all enjoy your evening. Even the naysayers can we all just have a great night of piece between it all for one night please. Thanks I really understand how you all feel.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:46 PM
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DINARES GURUS: LOECHIN UPDATE : MORE ENCOURAGEMENT!!, 21 NOV
http://dinaresgurus.blogspot.com/2013/11/loechin-update-more-encouragement-21-nov.html
11:40 AM Central time......loechin: This is ALL I will say today, the process as you know it is OVER.
And what you care about is OVER. The RV is over, and the Banks in fact have the RV
in hand and will release it to us when they are ready again to do it end of story guys.
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 7:47 PM
I’ve gotten a BAD VIBE about this guy from the very beginning…. Here’s another email I just got…… sheds some light on why someone would take the time to hold calls with thousands of followers…. We can’t get away from the old saying, ‘FOLLOW THE MONEY’ can we? OR, my personal favorite, ‘tell someone what they want to hear, and they’ll find a reason to believe you’… lol
> The telecommunications act of 1996 allowed small rural phone companies to charge other larger phone companies a “termination fee” to access their lines. Basically, if you had a small phone company in Iowa or South Dakota, you could charge AT&T or Verizon when folks called into your area code. I have cell coverage via AT&T (unfortunately), so when I call a rural number in Iowa, AT&T has to pay a termination fee (which is actually billed per minute) to that provider in Iowa. The government allowed this to happen because small phone companies had high costs to throw up a line to that rural Iowa farmhouse, but they don’t make much money from it.
More traffic = More $$$! So, they had a brilliant idea!
If they can get businesses with a lot of incoming calls, like conference calling companies, they could make a lot of money. So they started cutting deals with conference call companies, phonesex lines, etc. If the termination fee at a particular location was 8 cents, they could pay a conference bridge company 4 cents per minute and still make 4 cents on the call. Conference calling is relatively cheap to setup, so these companies are able to offer free service to customers like us and still make 4 cents per minute. It’s all about using more minutes.
So.........lets say Tony contacted Freeconferencecall.com and told them that he is going to have conference calls every night and that about 1000 people will be on those calls. Freeconferencecall.com will make 4 cents per minute for every person on the call. thats $40 per minute if a thousand people are on the call. Since they draw out those calls for 2-3 hours, If it is a 3 hour call, that is $7200 that Tony just made freeconferencecall.com. Now......lets say he worked a deal telling them that he will bring a ton of traffic to them and he wants 10% of the income, he just made $720 for one nights work having guests kill time on a conference call. Damn good money for 3 hours of work.
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A 2 hour call at 50% of the income (4 cents) is $4,800. If it's 10% of the income (8/10ths of 1 cent), then it would be $960 that he made.
Tony
stated about a month ago that he doesn't make a cent out of the conference
calls – H
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For what it is worth.
AN EMAIL SENT TO ME:TNT Tony is Anthony Renfrow you can google images and he's the same guy but there's more proof than that here anyway. I read the links here and he had an online program and misappropriated/pinched/stole 2.3 million dollars of the members money. He's a liar and a cheat with a personality disorder....
Look at this from PD:
Dinar Recaps forms Strategic Alliance with Federal Fraudsters Tony and Ray Renfrow (TNT Dinar)
Tony Refrow (TNT Dinar/Turbo Tony) and Ray Renfrow (RayRen98) both facing Federal Charges as well as ongoing Federal Investigations into additional charges relating to intentional investment misinformation/fraud "for gain", continue their fraudulent activities with the aid of Internet Report "Dinar Recaps LLC".
The current Federal charges against Tony Renfrow date back to investment schemes for which he has been formally charged in 2012 (see notations). Additional claims relating to current activities are under investigation as well. Additional filings are imminent.
Ray Renfrow (RayRen98) is also currently under Federal indictment relating to Investment, Tax and Trust Fraud - and is currently ordered in a Federal injunction to not further solicit, induce or advise clients in such matters. However, during numerous TNT Dinar Conference Calls the two are actively violating such protection orders with the advertising and support of the Internet Report "Dinar Recaps LLC".
The aforementioned "Strategic Alliance" appears to have been entered with the full knowledge and affirmation of the Internet Report "Dinar Recaps LLC".
ORDER FOR CONTINUANCE AND
DESIGNATION OF COMPLEX CASE as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox. Motions due by
10/7/2013. Response deadline 10/14/2013. Motion Hearing set for 10/21/2013 at
09:30 AM in Courtroom 463 (CM) before District Judge Carlos Murguia. Excludable
started as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox 2/25/13 thru 10/21/13. Signed by
District Judge Carlos Murguia on 3/8/2013. Mmmmm... (Entered: 03/08/2013)
PelicanNest5: uh let's see
PelicanNest5: HERE's the INDICTMENT
PelicanNest5:https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/
PelicanNest5: uh let's see
PelicanNest5: HERE's the INDICTMENT
PelicanNest5:https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/
Dave - FYI - Motion
Hearing set for 10/21/2013 at 09:30 AM in Courtroom 463 (CM) before District
Judge Carlos Murguia.
[2:40:58 AM] PelicanNest5: Kansas District Court
[2:41:21 AM] PelicanNest5: Case No. 2:12-cr-20041
[10/21/2013 6:44:37 PM] jacque47: AND THIS ---HE HAS TO BE PRESENT????
[10/21/2013 6:45:23 PM] PelicanNest5: he's had 'continuances' on this for months
[10/21/2013 6:46:15 PM] PelicanNest5: IMO i believe a 'defendant' has to finally show up for THE HEARING
[10/21/2013 6:46:49 PM] PelicanNest5: this case was filed on 4/18/2012
[10/21/2013 6:48:43 PM] jacque47: MY ONLY QUESTION------IS A HEARING---FOR WHEN THE CASE WILL BE HEARD???
[10/21/2013 6:49:05 PM] PelicanNest5: it's NOT THE TRIAL
[10/21/2013 6:49:11 PM] PelicanNest5: HEARING b4 TRIAL
[10/21/2013 6:49:32 PM] PelicanNest5: but i'm reading ... they Renfrow & Fox were supposed to go to trial last year
ORDER FOR CONTINUANCE AND
DESIGNATION OF COMPLEX CASE as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox. Motions due by
10/7/2013. Response deadline 10/14/2013. Motion Hearing set for 10/21/2013 at
09:30 AM in Courtroom 463 (CM) before District Judge Carlos Murguia. Excludable
started as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox 2/25/13 thru 10/21/13. Signed by
District Judge Carlos Murguia on 3/8/2013. Mmmmm... (Entered: 03/08/2013)
PelicanNest5: HERE's the INDICTMENT
PelicanNest5:https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/
PelicanNest5: HERE's the INDICTMENT
PelicanNest5:https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/
See notations
http://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kan...Renfrow_et_al/
http://www.justice.gov/tax/RRenfrow_..._Recommend.pdf
http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx...WAR3-2007-CURR
The links provided above are from previous cases. However, this case at least is still ongoing. The latest filing from Kansas District Court, (posted below) are from Anthony Renfrow's 04/18/2012 indictment for his involvement in a company called 14 daily plus.
Docket Text
ORDER FOR CONTINUANCE AND DESIGNATION OF COMPLEX CASE as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox. Motions due by 10/7/2013. Response deadline 10/14/2013. Motion Hearing set for 10/21/2013 at 09:30 AM in Courtroom 463 (CM) before District Judge Carlos Murguia. Excludable started as to Anthony Renfrow, William Fox 2/25/13 thru 10/21/13. Signed by District Judge Carlos Murguia on 3/8/2013. Mmmmm... (Entered: 03/08/2013)
Holy smoke
11/10/13 1:25 PM
well well well.
I wonder what they would
say to that,lol
11/10/13 1:26 PM
sort off puts recaps in a different light……….that was posted in the forum at Peoples
Invested.just now.
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11-22-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony
Call center personnel are at the center at this time, waiting for
activation. Everyone is
still expecting this before the banks open in the morning.
11-21-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 IT HAS BEEN REPORTED TO ME THAT
PROGRESS IS BEING MADE IN GENEVA IN THE FINANCIAL SUMMIT AND THE RATES OF THE RV AND REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN
DISCUSSED AND AGREED UPON BUT THIS IS NOT CONFIRMED. IT HAS BEEN SAID THE HCL MUST BE COMPLETED AS ONE OF
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR IRAQ'S FUTURE AND THIS IS EXCELLENT NEWS BECAUSE THE HCL
WILL REQUIRE THE RV TO FUND IT. THE RV AND HCL WILL HAPPEN IN
CONJUNCTION WITH ONE ANOTHER. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 THE RV IS AND
WILL HAPPEN AND ALL INDICATIONS SHOWS
ME VERY DEFINITELY THEY ARE DESPARATE TO GET THE RATE CHANGED TO A MUCH HIGHER
VALUE. THE BOND SALE AND STOPPING THE AUCTIONS ALSO SHOWS US THEY ARE MAKING MOVES TO RV THE DINAR
RATE. [post 2 of 2]http://www.dinarguru.com/
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11-22-2013 Intel Guru TNT Tony Call center personnel are at the center at this time, waiting for activation. Everyone is still expecting this before the banks open in the morning.
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11/21/2013
TNT:
[FlyingStar] JUST SPOKE TO TONY -- 7:10 PM MST --- HE SAID TO HANG ON, GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT, THE BLAST WILL COME--- NO TIME FRAME FOR THE PLAST ---- JUST BE CALM..... ALL GOOD STUFF....:)
Suzye55 wrote Nov 21st @04:53pm: SP Thanks, that sounds like midnight or later.
SPGuru post 4:53PM Ok so here is what you been looking for. I known all day that new times had been set. The time is soon and it is more evident that is still coming. So enjoy your evening be back after football game to confirm things are still going forward for all of your blessings. Need a break just like all of you. Remember time is on our side now and exact nobody know that but it is coming
[Greenrage] Dakotaman~ I went and emailed my PB at WF if he wanted to take care of my exchange or should I use the 800 system? Ten minutes later the response, "I will definitely take care of you. How soon can you come in? dakotaman wow I set the appt for 2 this afternoon eastern. PAcked all the stuff into a briefcase and went today. Cool as a cucumber I arrived on time.
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[FlyingStar] JUST SPOKE TO TONY -- 7:10 PM MST --- HE SAID TO HANG ON, GOING TO BE A LATE NIGHT, THE BLAST WILL COME--- NO TIME FRAME FOR THE PLAST ---- JUST BE CALM..... ALL GOOD STUFF....:)
Suzye55 wrote Nov 21st @04:53pm: SP Thanks, that sounds like midnight or later.
SPGuru post 4:53PM Ok so here is what you been looking for. I known all day that new times had been set. The time is soon and it is more evident that is still coming. So enjoy your evening be back after football game to confirm things are still going forward for all of your blessings. Need a break just like all of you. Remember time is on our side now and exact nobody know that but it is coming
[Greenrage] Dakotaman~ I went and emailed my PB at WF if he wanted to take care of my exchange or should I use the 800 system? Ten minutes later the response, "I will definitely take care of you. How soon can you come in? dakotaman wow I set the appt for 2 this afternoon eastern. PAcked all the stuff into a briefcase and went today. Cool as a cucumber I arrived on time.
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I went in and he said what would you like to exchange today? How
much do you hold in hand? Is it here? He loves foreign currency. He examined
the IQN,VNN,ZWN and IDN loved the watermarks Leoff ok I do not type fast
perhaps I should type it all in the forum or in word and copy it here donhutto
1yinca a_li'l_fox OK so anyway he calls the exchange location which I know
where that is anyway right near the airport He spoke with a woman there at
length she was bringing him up to snuff
[Greenrage] Dakotaman~ part2~ Long story short he learned that he jumped the gun. Although he was saying it was to revalue all the while he learned otherwise. He apologized to me twice, I was disappointed but not surprised. He says that it is close but that he though through the urgancy of email that it was already done. We sat and brought each other up to speed on what each other knew.
I now know the varieties of perks available, he knows where I wish to be how much control I can accept and expect. I didn't come away rich in money but I came away rich in knowledge, experience this was a DRY run and very good dry run. I found that the security concerns arent there at least not here I will now address the PMs I been knocking down for the past ten minutes.
I debated for the past 4 hours whether to say anything on not, I decided that if the calm and reassurance reached one other person then I could deal with all the idiots that just wanted to laugh or make fun. there ya have it, 80 minutes spent with a PB we are nearly there
[birdman98] Hearing 4am GMT = 11pm EST. Have a goodnight people .
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I4U:
[FLPatriot59] WANNA-BE GURU ALMOST INTEL INFO OPINION.....I'm convinced that the PTB want to infuse our economy during the upcoming holidays. Therefore, I predict we will see ARVIE before Thanksgiving. This will give retailers the best Black Friday in at least 2 years. The retail research firm ShopperTrak estimates that shoppers spent $11.2 billion at physical stores on Black Friday 2012. That represents a 1.8% decline from Black Friday 2011. So, YES! I'm calling it for between now and next Wednesday, with a high probability before this weekend.
[FLPatriot59] TREAT ALL AS RUMOR.
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GET:
[beach] treat this as a rumor: [jojo] ok guys you know I don't tell stuff for the heck of it so here is what I just got from boots on the ground in IRAQ. It is going down as we speak. So take as you will bbl
[Greenrage] Dakotaman~ part2~ Long story short he learned that he jumped the gun. Although he was saying it was to revalue all the while he learned otherwise. He apologized to me twice, I was disappointed but not surprised. He says that it is close but that he though through the urgancy of email that it was already done. We sat and brought each other up to speed on what each other knew.
I now know the varieties of perks available, he knows where I wish to be how much control I can accept and expect. I didn't come away rich in money but I came away rich in knowledge, experience this was a DRY run and very good dry run. I found that the security concerns arent there at least not here I will now address the PMs I been knocking down for the past ten minutes.
I debated for the past 4 hours whether to say anything on not, I decided that if the calm and reassurance reached one other person then I could deal with all the idiots that just wanted to laugh or make fun. there ya have it, 80 minutes spent with a PB we are nearly there
[birdman98] Hearing 4am GMT = 11pm EST. Have a goodnight people .
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I4U:
[FLPatriot59] WANNA-BE GURU ALMOST INTEL INFO OPINION.....I'm convinced that the PTB want to infuse our economy during the upcoming holidays. Therefore, I predict we will see ARVIE before Thanksgiving. This will give retailers the best Black Friday in at least 2 years. The retail research firm ShopperTrak estimates that shoppers spent $11.2 billion at physical stores on Black Friday 2012. That represents a 1.8% decline from Black Friday 2011. So, YES! I'm calling it for between now and next Wednesday, with a high probability before this weekend.
[FLPatriot59] TREAT ALL AS RUMOR.
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GET:
[beach] treat this as a rumor: [jojo] ok guys you know I don't tell stuff for the heck of it so here is what I just got from boots on the ground in IRAQ. It is going down as we speak. So take as you will bbl
4 comments:
I wish these guys hiding behind logon names could be ousted in the public. After that see how much information out.
Hi John, is good to see you waking up and calling this Gurus by their liar names, nobody can receive this much "screwed up intel"
and continue using the same sources, so that excuse is exhausted for the Gurus about a year ago. Hopefully you will continue to evolve and stop posting their lies altogether, trust me, we, your readers won't missed it.
Kudos, John for posting " negative " info. The ' imminent ' RV is going on to 3 years now. A lot of somebodies are full of shit, most of us won't know exactly who until post RV, assuming THAT is real. The ever increasing rate of exchange should have been everyone's clue for intentional deception. I'm betting that the lower, rational numbers ( $ 3.50 IQD - $ .05 VNN ) are realistic. No more hopium. It's probably time for you to stop posting this disinformation, it's now becoming counter productive. TYJM frj
Tony is the biggest scammer and criminal. His real name is Anthony Renfrow.
He has more than a dozen frauds lawsuits as he worked as a MLM “14 Daily Plus” promoter.
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/directory/tony-renfrow
https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/
Here is his “14 Daily Plus” promotion video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tPF_ZVOJNw
I don't know why anyone still wants to follow him. He has claimed so many times the RV has happened but every time he came up with new excuses for why the 800 numbers are not ready yet, just like this time. When will his blind followers wake up?
This time around he even refuses to do a blast today. What a con artist and scamer!! He loves to give smokes and mirrors (such as NDA, proper attire, 800 numbers, post RV parties, high exchange rate... etc) to allure people and distract people from the obvious inconsistency! The entire Iraq has RV with $3.8 rate but no news! Sigh... let the fools be fools.
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