Thursday, November 21, 2013

Dinar Gurus - 11/21/13

THEIR DISINFO SPIN  IS INCALCUABLE ! 


* Iraqi dinar, recently being said ** / Okie_Oil_Man, Loechin, et al.
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Thursday, 21-Nov-2013 17:55:44

Hi, Folks -
This is an unusual amount of chatter for a Thursday, indication perhaps of how close to "actual activity" things may be. (?)
Found at www.dinarguru.com :
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11-21-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 IT MAY FLOAT BUT NEVER FROM WHERE IT IS NOW. IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT FROM A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN THAT...IF AND WHEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT THEN IT CAN FLOAT AT 2% EVERY 30 DAYS UP OR DOWN. THE CBI STATED A FLAT RATE WAS WHAT THEY WANTED. THE STARTING RATE HAS BEEN SPECULATIVE BUT IN ALL OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION I HAVE EVER SEEN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN $3.22 TO $3.86 AND ALSO BEEN STATED MANY TIME CLOSE TO KUWAIT. TIME WILL TELL.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Loechin OK guys here is what I know...there were groups of people in NY and it caused some real concern. However, I can tell you we are OK and what I'm told is that everything that was held off is OK now. The Banks are nervous and when this happened today, they don't want things to get crazy. Remember the public has no idea about this. [do you think they will be another hold up?] no.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man [800 numbers coming soon?HOURS AWAY IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FORGOING ANY MORE INCIDENTS...PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ELABORATED MORE---THE UST HAS RELEASED THE R/V TO THE BANKS---IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION AS WHEN TO SAY AS BOB BARKER USED TO SAY----"""COME ON DOWN""". THE UST WILL INFORM DEALERS WHEN TO EITHER STOP SELLING OR RAISE THEIR PRICE TO REFLECT THE NEW VALUE. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man HERE IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND--THE RATE WILL NOT BE A CONSTANT FACTOR--IT WILL VARY SOME NEARLY ON A DAILY BASIS. NOW--SOMETHING ELSE--TRY TO GET YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO PRECLUDE A DECLINE IN RATE--THERE WILL BE A VARIANCE. [post 2 of 2]
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN PER DIRECT CONVERSATION...WITH CONTACT...EVERYTHING IN IRAQ IS COMPLETED, AND NOTHING REMAINS BUT THE RELEASE OF THE 1-800 NUMBERS. NEW SECURITY CONCERNS AND SOLUTIONS PRESENTLY BEING DISCUSSED IN REFERENCE TO EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2 STATES AT BANKS.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man THIS ALMOST SOUNDS INCOMPREHENSIBLE BUT THE STATED GOAL OF THE UST IS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND REDEEM AS MANY DINAR HOLDERS AS POSSIBLE IN ONLY 7-10 DAYS. THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE 30 DAY DEADLINE BUT THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE RATE WILL START TO DROP. THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS. [post `1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man [do you believe we will have a shot at appointments on Thursday?] THATS WHAT WERE HOPING AT THIS MOMENT BARRING ANY MORE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS. [Can you divulge the rate...?RATE STILL UNBELIEVABLY HIGH AND HAS BEEN CONSTANT FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW. [do you see this being resolved and all of us who follow the rules at the banks soon?] ABSOLUTELY YES. [post 2 of 2]

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** Iraqi dinar, recently being said ** / Okie_Oil_Man, Loechin, et al.
Posted By: hobie [Send E-Mail]
Date: Thursday, 21-Nov-2013 17:55:44

Hi, Folks -
This is an unusual amount of chatter for a Thursday, indication perhaps of how close to "actual activity" things may be. (?)
Found at www.dinarguru.com :
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11-21-2013 Intel/Newshound Guru Poppy3 IT MAY FLOAT BUT NEVER FROM WHERE IT IS NOW. IT WILL BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT FROM A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN THAT...IF AND WHEN IT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO FLOAT THEN IT CAN FLOAT AT 2% EVERY 30 DAYS UP OR DOWN. THE CBI STATED A FLAT RATE WAS WHAT THEY WANTED. THE STARTING RATE HAS BEEN SPECULATIVE BUT IN ALL OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION I HAVE EVER SEEN IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN $3.22 TO $3.86 AND ALSO BEEN STATED MANY TIME CLOSE TO KUWAIT. TIME WILL TELL.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Loechin OK guys here is what I know...there were groups of people in NY and it caused some real concern. However, I can tell you we are OK and what I'm told is that everything that was held off is OK now. The Banks are nervous and when this happened today, they don't want things to get crazy. Remember the public has no idea about this. [do you think they will be another hold up?] no.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man [800 numbers coming soon?HOURS AWAY IS THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY FORGOING ANY MORE INCIDENTS...PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE ELABORATED MORE---THE UST HAS RELEASED THE R/V TO THE BANKS---IT IS IN THEIR DISCRETION AS WHEN TO SAY AS BOB BARKER USED TO SAY----"""COME ON DOWN""". THE UST WILL INFORM DEALERS WHEN TO EITHER STOP SELLING OR RAISE THEIR PRICE TO REFLECT THE NEW VALUE. [post 1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man HERE IS SOMETHING TO KEEP IN YOUR MIND--THE RATE WILL NOT BE A CONSTANT FACTOR--IT WILL VARY SOME NEARLY ON A DAILY BASIS. NOW--SOMETHING ELSE--TRY TO GET YOUR APPOINTMENT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO PRECLUDE A DECLINE IN RATE--THERE WILL BE A VARIANCE. [post 2 of 2]
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru EXOGEN PER DIRECT CONVERSATION...WITH CONTACT...EVERYTHING IN IRAQ IS COMPLETED, AND NOTHING REMAINS BUT THE RELEASE OF THE 1-800 NUMBERS. NEW SECURITY CONCERNS AND SOLUTIONS PRESENTLY BEING DISCUSSED IN REFERENCE TO EVENTS THAT TOOK PLACE IN 2 STATES AT BANKS.
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11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man THIS ALMOST SOUNDS INCOMPREHENSIBLE BUT THE STATED GOAL OF THE UST IS TO TRY TO ACCOMMODATE AND REDEEM AS MANY DINAR HOLDERS AS POSSIBLE IN ONLY 7-10 DAYS. THAT HAS NO EFFECT ON THE 30 DAY DEADLINE BUT THE LONGER YOU WAIT THE RATE WILL START TO DROP. THE APPOINTMENT PLACEMENT CENTERS WILL BE 24 HRS A DAY FOR 30 DAYS OR AT LEAST UNTIL THE CALLS SUBSIDE ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THERE REDUCED HOURS. [post `1 of 2....stay tuned]
11-21-2013 Intel Guru Okie_Oil_Man [do you believe we will have a shot at appointments on Thursday?] THATS WHAT WERE HOPING AT THIS MOMENT BARRING ANY MORE UNFORESEEN INCIDENTS. [Can you divulge the rate...?]RATE STILL UNBELIEVABLY HIGH AND HAS BEEN CONSTANT FOR SEVERAL DAYS NOW. [do you see this being resolved and all of us who follow the rules at the banks soon?] ABSOLUTELY YES. [post 2 of 2]

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Tidbits and Thoughts from TNT Members Thurs. PM
11/21/2013

[Already Blessed (PAM)] JUST GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH TONY! EVERYTHING IS STILL ABSOLUTELY AWESOME...HE WILL DO A BLAST LATER TODAY...NO WORRIES!

11:40 AM Central time......loechin: This is ALL I will say today, the process as you know it is OVER. And what you care about is OVER. The RV is over, and the Banks in fact have the RV in hand and will release it to us when they are ready again to do it end of story guys.

MWKD Nov 21st @09:53am: If you want the truth, there were incidents at the bank... In more than two states.. No you won't be able to find out because it isn't meant for you to find out... Yes as I have old you there IS. A backwall. Don't forget who runs this country, some of you won't understand that.. I will NOT give you the date, and honestly I hope Tony doesn't either.. Sit back and relax, those kinks are getting ironed out and this should all be over VERY soon
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[ZTenor] When you feel angry and frustrated and you want to lash out and say something that might be considered hurtful....step back......take a deep breath and just sit with that feeling for awhile.....you will find that it soon will dissapate and it won't be as critical as when you first felt it. The danger is not in the feeling......but in the expression of that feeling at our most vulnerable time. When you step back and take a deep breath you will discover that maybe that feeling is not so important as you first thought. Be good to yourself....and others! IT's important.....because at one time or another you will have to live with them.... lol

[1blessed] Just a short note of information on what happen with no 800#s. Last night I was informed that at 12:30 am EST Iraq was to officially RV. When they went to push it thru all at once the computers system didn't complete the operation. So they tried it one bank at a time to align with CBI. Got about half way thru and that failed. I'm told they are totally committed to getting this to work today. We can't get our 800#'s until it is official in Iraq. Staying postive

3:00pm et Already Blessed (pam)] just got off the phone with tony! Everything is still absolutely awesome...he will do a blast later today...no worries! Lighten up GUYS.....NO bad NEWS....WE are used to waiting for it! Hang in THERE....IT is really almost over! Already Blessed (pam)] tony will do a blast later TODAY....NO worries...it is only noonthere...give him some time to gather intel, confirm and validate

Pharmboyguru:  Smokey mirrors/deception/lies/confusion

Did you guys ever stop to think that what we are going through is something that they planned and designed.  The government has always done this and they have to keep us guessing as to when it will actually pop.

They want to give us enough information so that we know what to do when it does happen but they also do not want us to know the exact date.

If anyone did know the exact date just think about how much extra money they could make.  The informants that give Tony the information probably do not know what is the truth and what is not, they do this to cause confusion amongst everyone.

Do not worry, it will happen at some point, all we can do is guess about the round about date and the round about rate.  Just like Tony said this is in the moment information and if you can't handle it, do not follow it.

If you can handle it just keep positive and happy that you are part of this group and investment.  Have a great day and remember stay positive!!! :)

Mort posted re: his Int'l lawyer ;-) HE said he is still in reno making great progress and will be in touch with his clients in a couple of days-everything is looking good and remember he said he is the start of tier 3 which is US...SO we should see this anytime NOW...SO hang in there...we should all be rich soon
!

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MWKD Nov 21st @09:53am: If you want the truth, there were incidents at the bank... In more than two states.. No you won't be able to find out because it isn't meant for you to find out... Yes as I have old you there IS. A backwall. Don't forget who runs this country, some of you won't understand that.. I will NOT give you the date, and honestly I hope Tony doesn't either.. Sit back and relax, those kinks are getting ironed out and this should all be over VERY soon
Posted by FORO DINAR GURUS at 10:50 AM

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OPEN LETTER TO DINARIANS - Thursday morning post from Winalot sent to Recaps

11/21/2013


OPEN LETTER TO DINARIANS - Thursday morning post from Winalot sent to Recaps

Hi,

Right now, we are hearing all kinds of crazy stuff...exorbanintly high rates, daily rv calls, followed by daily excuses, currency codes that do not exist... on and on and on.

Let's have a reality check.  I can see no way possible for the rates being thrown around to be possible.  You can beleive what you want.  BUT!  When you are standing in line at the bank, and you get to the point of exchanging, and they tell you $3.++ on the dinar, and $.05 'ish on the VND...remember one thing.  AT THAT RATE, THIS IS THE SINGLE BEST INVESTMENT YOU WILL HAVE EVER MADE IN YOUR LIFETIME!  Do NOT take it out on the banking personel...YOU are the ones who chose to beleive what you have... no one made you.  Take your measly 3.5 million dollars per million dinar, invest it wisely, and be extremely happy!

If I am wrong, heck... not the first time... but please get your heads around a much smaller amount for exchange than what you are hearing....it will be much easier to take.

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I don't know who is supplying the daily mis-information, or why.  What does concern me is why do the GURU's keep passing it on?  Is no one smart enough to question their "sources" as to why, for at least the last 6 months of calling an rv daily, and excuses daily, as to why that keeps happening?  Really???

The excuses have been all over the board, recycled many times over and over, and here we still sit.  Amazing!

I would also like to add a word about the smart cards...NOTHING HAS CHANGED~!  The Iraqi's still worry EVERY DAY if they are going to be able to feed thier children.  They fight the banks EVERY DAY when they do get money on their card because the banks are STEALING it from them in commissions that are not allowed to be charged~!  I watch the smart card site like a hawk.. I click on peoples pages that are leaving the posts... it is amazing what you can learn if you simply READ instead of listening to the Guru's!  Give it a try....see for yourself.  If you choose to ask questions or make comments, be prepaired!  They will simply ignore you, as they have much better manners than the people asking the stupid questions.  So, read, hop around, use www.translate.google.com to translate what they are saying.... and just see for yourself.

Winalot



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Hi, John,

Bank appointments?

Bus loads of dinarians flooding banks??

3000 to 7000 customer service reps ready to take your call?

Rate change in Iraq??

These are just a few of the reports coming in from Intel Gurus...

Very exciting stuff for sure!!

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We STILL have not gotten consensus or confirmation about any of it
just yet. :(

None of the thousands of customer service reps reported on the
boards...

None of the 100 or more people on the buses have reported on what
happened or what they were told.

None of the DinarGuru members from around the world confirmed the
rate change in Iraq...

None of the banks have said a peep about any of the procedures.

Remember we're looking for a consensus from Intel and newshound
gurus from different camps...so far we have not gotten it.


I'll let you know if anything changes so stay tuned for that...

In the mean time, below is an email I sent out last week talking
about 800#, NDAs and whatnot...if you didn't read it do that now.

Even though we have not gotten consensus...most gurus are reporting
great stuff happening!!


The last quarter was shaping up to be exciting and it has not
failed in that regard!

stay tuned...
-Blanche

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Hi John
Dinar appointment 800#'s, special rates, IQN, group exchanges,
NDAs??

Lots of info floating out there but no clear direction.

People are feeling a little lost...like they're going to lose out
or something.

Here's the deal...

NOTHING is official until it's official...that includes 800#'s,
special appointments, IQN instead of IQD, NDAs etc.

So take a deep breath and know you have not missed out on anything
and I'll do my best so you don't. :)

Remember we're ALWAYS looking for consensus from the gurus...and we
are not getting that with the timing, the rate, nor with any future
exchange procedures.

Which is not all surprising since nothing has
officially changed yet!

Let's take a look each controversial item:

Exchange Appointment 800#s:  Some gurus are reporting the banks
will have special 800# to call to set up an exchange.  This may or
may not be true for all banks.  Even if this is true across the
board, this won't be a secret...the banks want your business and
will inform us what we need to do to work with them safely.  I'll
let you know what we learn as things become OFFICIAL.

Group rate 800#s:  Again some gurus and groups are reporting they
will have special rates.  Other gurus say they have not seen any of
this themselves.  But again if this turns out to be accurate I'll
let you know.

IQN vs IQD:  Some gurus are claiming you will want to use the term
IQN instead of IQD when exchanging.  Again nothing is official and
I don't see why this would matter...currency is currency.  But I
also know truth is sometimes stranger than fiction so I'll let you
know what this is all about too when we know more.

NDA:  Some gurus are claiming you'll have to sign a NDA
(non-disclosure Agreement) when you exchange.  I'm not an attorney
or anything, so I don't know much about these sorts of things.
Have your attorney review any special documents the bank requires
you to sign.  Other gurus feel they would be surprised if this
turns out to be accurate so it may not be that big of a deal anyway.

Also, remember, the dinar is NOT international at this time...most
U.S. banks are not dealing with it at the moment.

So all this bank talk is speculative right now.

As of right now the online brokers and airport exchange houses are
the groups dealing in dinar.  That's really it.

We're hoping that changes real soon.

We have over 70,000 members.  You're one of them.  Once something
changes we'll know the good the bad and the ugly real quick.  I'll
do my best to let you know what people are experiencing out on the
street. 

What to look for and what to look out for.

Also one more thing. 

On the Dinar Guru Tool Bar running down the
left side of the home page, you'll see the DinarGuru RV Meters...

These give you the overall sentiment of the gurus and a new feature
my son put up lists the possible "to do" items some of the
gurus feel need to be done before a change can happen.

Some gurus feel only one or two of the items need to be completed
while others feel they all need to be competed.

Regardless, these will help you track progress!

LOTS of great things slated to happen in the final 2 months of the
2013!  Stay tuned!!

enjoy. 

talk soon
Blanche

PS  Did a friend forward you this email?  Did you enjoy getting it and want
to get updates, videos, documents and post RV update directly from me?




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John, you have to be the most double-minded blogger out there.  In one post, you quote the ridiculous douchebag that publishes the “Dinar Douchebag” blog.  Do you believe his sarcastic, cynical, disbelieving, and libelous rants?  Or do you believe the several blog entries in which you quote all the “criminal gurus” that he is dissing on?

Do you believe somebody is blocking the RV, or is it all a pipe dream?  Can’t have it both ways.  It is going to RV or it’s not.

Then you build a straw man of the NDA.  If it does exist, it is not in effect yet!  It won’t be in effect until the RV.  Your “forensic investigator” found out absolutely nothing worthwhile.  I could have told you what he did.  THERE IS NO (CURRENT) WF NDA REQUIREMENT FOR CURRENCY EXCHANGE.  Of course there isn’t... the GCR hasn’t occurred yet until we Americans are in the banks.

This info did not in the least prove the Tony is lying.  It still remains to be seen. After the RV happens, we will see the truth.  Until then, give us a break from the ALL CAPS, BOLD, RED RANTS\

Please...

Dan G



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> Hi john, I am in Asia at present hoping a global reset happens soon while I am here. I am amazed how easy it is to trade any currency for any other, no questions asked, no ID, any amount, no delarouge machine. Currency exchanges are everywhere, and at most every branch of banks. Intel gurus are so full of BS in America. Anything to spread hopium and keep people trapped in the matrix. Best thing anyone could do when an RV happens is jump on a plane and cash out overseas. People and banks are normal, friendly, professional and love business! It's transferring currencies out of America one faces intense scrutiny and taxes. Spread the word! Blessings!

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Okie Thoughts Thursday Afternoon from OOM&F
11/21/2013
 
[..okieoilman] I HAVE JUST READ THE REMARKS MADE BY OTHERS REGARDING MY POST THAT RE-CAPS POSTED.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE REASON YESTERDAY'S DEBACLE INFLUENCED THE RELEASE FROM THE BANKS AND YOU RECEIVED IT WITH SCORN AND DIS-BELIEF.

WELL I SUPPOSE THAT IS YOUR PEROGITIVE. EVERYTHING REGARDING THE HOLD UP FROM MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE AT THE BANK WAS FACTUAL AND TRUE.

THE COMMENTS ALLUDED TO ABOUT EXCUSES AND ME BEING DILUSIONAL ARE CERTAINLY NOT APPRECIATED. TO THOSE WHO CONSTANTLY CHALLENGE FACTS BEING FURNISHED (AT NO COST)--
LET THEM EAT CAKE.

 I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO HONESTLY FURNISH THE BEST INFORMATION I POSSESSED. THOSE DOUBTERS ARE NEARLY ENOUGH TO MAKE ME SIT BACK AND WATCH THEM DIG FOR INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TOO.
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 THIS IS A DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF CONDUCT BY THOSE WITH NO CONTACTS BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT FIT INTO THEIR OWN OPINIONS WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY.

I AM CONTEMPLATING NOT FURNISHING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AND LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK.

 I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVE WITH MY BEST INTENTION THE INFORMATION I FURNISH.-----BLESSINGS TO THOSE WHO AREN'T MENTALLY CHALLENGED

[..okieoilman] I HAVE NO INTENT OF PUNISHING ANYONE. ON THE CONTRARY I HAVE ONLY TRIED TO HELP--IF THAT IS AN EXCUSE--SO BE IT. YOU NEED TO REALIZE WHILE OTHER INTEL GATHERERS HAS A CREW HELPING THEM, I HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY ON MY OWN.

IT SURE GET'S LONESOME OUT ON THIS LIMB SOMETIMES. ALSO REALIZE I HAVE BEEN GOING THRU THIS SAGA FOR 10 YEARS NOW AND IT'S TOLL SEEM'S TO JUST NOW BEGINING TO TAKE AN EFFECT ON ME.

11/21/2013
 
loechin live  November 21, 2013

I Thessalonians 5:18 " In everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you" NKJV

It's hard on some of you right now to do what I'm going to tell you but it's time like never before. We are right now in an EVERYTHING MOMENT. Right now at this very moment everything in your financial life is about to change.

But what about life, the scripture said in EVERYTHING to Give Thanks. We are one week away from a day called Thanksgiving. A day and for some of us the only day out of the year that we reflect on being Thankful.

Instead of trying to find out about a bus load of people (which I now can tell you now it was not a bus but several different situations) why not just sit back and take a breath and Thank God that we are even in this investment.
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There were verified situations that did concern the Banks and that has been given attention to by the right people this morning. Can this continue NO and it won't either.

People are going to get either the boot or a new pair of bracelets to wear for being STUPID and not following the rules.

Before you ask are we still on track, is this another delay, will this cause something else to delay it.... The answer is NO.

And before you ask let me tell you something NO ONE knows the exact moment that this is coming, that we know anyway. Is there a back date, yes and do we know It, yes, but it won't be told to the masses either.

Do what I'm going to do and go out and find something else to occupy your time and wait for the 800 numbers to come out.

Keep the faith that the RV is here, it has been completed, and it's in the hands of the Banks. When they release it, we will know it and we won't care anymore.....
loechin

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All of the so called gurus are just full of lies now they are saying it has
been delayed because people were running to the banks  What BULLSHIT
they said the same thing several weeks ago to cover there lies. Maybe
everyone needs to do a reality check and stop listening to these people
that try to fill everyone with hope that it will happen today, tomorrow
this week then next week next month or next year enough already.

NO MORE LIES AND FALSE HOPE

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Okie Thoughts Thursday Afternoon from OOM&F

11/21/2013

[..okieoilman] I HAVE JUST READ THE REMARKS MADE BY OTHERS REGARDING MY POST THAT RE-CAPS POSTED.

I HAVE GIVEN YOU THE REASON YESTERDAY'S DEBACLE INFLUENCED THE RELEASE FROM THE BANKS AND YOU RECEIVED IT WITH SCORN AND DIS-BELIEF.

WELL I SUPPOSE THAT IS YOUR PEROGITIVE. EVERYTHING REGARDING THE HOLD UP FROM MENTALLY CHALLENGED PEOPLE AT THE BANK WAS FACTUAL AND TRUE.

THE COMMENTS ALLUDED TO ABOUT EXCUSES AND ME BEING DILUSIONAL ARE CERTAINLY NOT APPRECIATED. TO THOSE WHO CONSTANTLY CHALLENGE FACTS BEING FURNISHED (AT NO COST)--LET THEM EAT CAKE.

 I HAVE DONE MY BEST TO HONESTLY FURNISH THE BEST INFORMATION I POSSESSED. THOSE DOUBTERS ARE NEARLY ENOUGH TO MAKE ME SIT BACK AND WATCH THEM DIG FOR INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE NO ACCESS TOO.
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THIS IS A DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF CONDUCT BY THOSE WITH NO CONTACTS BECAUSE THIS DOES NOT FIT INTO THEIR OWN OPINIONS WHICH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHERE WE ARE PRESENTLY.

I AM CONTEMPLATING NOT FURNISHING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AND LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK.

 I APPRECIATE ALL THOSE WHO RECEIVE WITH MY BEST INTENTION THE INFORMATION I FURNISH.-----BLESSINGS TO THOSE WHO AREN'T MENTALLY CHALLENGED

[..okieoilman] I HAVE NO INTENT OF PUNISHING ANYONE. ON THE CONTRARY I HAVE ONLY TRIED TO HELP--IF THAT IS AN EXCUSE--SO BE IT. YOU NEED TO REALIZE WHILE OTHER INTEL GATHERERS HAS A CREW HELPING THEM, I HAVE BEEN ENTIRELY ON MY OWN.

IT SURE GET'S LONESOME OUT ON THIS LIMB SOMETIMES. ALSO REALIZE I HAVE BEEN GOING THRU THIS SAGA FOR 10 YEARS NOW AND IT'S TOLL SEEM'S TO JUST NOW BEGINING TO TAKE AN EFFECT ON ME.

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/okie-thoughts-thursday-afternoon-from-oomf.html

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Early Thursday PM Loechin Update from TNT Forum

11/21/2013

loechin live  November 21, 2013

I Thessalonians 5:18 " In everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you" NKJV

It's hard on some of you right now to do what I'm going to tell you but it's time like never before. We are right now in an EVERYTHING MOMENT. Right now at this very moment everything in your financial life is about to change.

But what about life, the scripture said in EVERYTHING to Give Thanks. We are one week away from a day called Thanksgiving. A day and for some of us the only day out of the year that we reflect on being Thankful.

Instead of trying to find out about a bus load of people (which I now can tell you now it was not a bus but several different situations) why not just sit back and take a breath and Thank God that we are even in this investment.
....
Read More Link on Right

There were verified situations that did concern the Banks and that has been given attention to by the right people this morning. Can this continue NO and it won't either.

People are going to get either the boot or a new pair of bracelets to wear for being STUPID and not following the rules.

Before you ask are we still on track, is this another delay, will this cause something else to delay it.... The answer is NO.

And before you ask let me tell you something NO ONE knows the exact moment that this is coming, that we know anyway. Is there a back date, yes and do we know I,t yes, but it won't be told to the masses either.

Do what I'm going to do and go out and find something else to occupy your time and wait for the 800 numbers to come out.

Keep the faith that the RV is here, it has been completed, and it's in the hands of the Banks. When they release it, we will know it and we won't care anymore.....
loechin




12 comments:

Anonymous said...

i have a uncle that works over their he has been their for 5 years no rv has happen at all what the crap are you guys telling people this bs for spoke with him 2 hours ago he was at the bank no rv no rv do not understand where you pros are getting your info

Anonymous said...

"I AM CONTEMPLATING NOT FURNISHING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AND LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK."
PLEASE, STOP contemplating! Please do NOT furnish any further so-called information! You can freely choose to continue getting jerked around by your same unreliable sources but by no means does it require us to continue to be jerked around by you! You get caught in lies and then resort to quoting the scriptures! Nice smoke screen!... Come on now, who would really want to mix business with the RV and corrupt\greedy banksters? Wake the hell up!

Anonymous said...

John, I am so happy you have limited the gurus to one posting per day. It is about time these quakes were led back home to the pond!

Kevin Mills said...

Awe, poor Okie got his feelings hurt. Shame on those bank-stormers... terrifying everybody...

Anonymous said...

This is NOT Okie! A couple weeks ago, Tony announced that Okie had fallen and hit his head. He was in the emergency room. The next thing we know, within hours, Okie is back talking with perfect English, perfect spelling and using large intimidating words. THIS IS NOT OKIE! He is also suddenly, completely and TOTALLY backing Tony and has abandoned his usual thoughtful and frustrated comments about those who are manipulating this RV. I believe they have done something to Okie and I'm very worried about him. I have read this man for many years. This is not his writing. Is there a psyop going on?

Anonymous said...

"I AM CONTEMPLATING NOT FURNISHING ANY FURTHER INFORMATION AND LEAVE THEM IN THE DARK." Personally, I like the dark. I strongly support you to stop furnishing information (expletive deleted!).

Anonymous said...

Yeah as they say....Same Sh*t, Different Day, or vice versa but very appropriate.

Anonymous said...

Bottom line Okie Oil Man.The Rv will happen(or not) whether or not anyone reads any of the nonsense you put out.I feel sorry for the desperate People you have on this Rollercoaster ride.All you Gurus Furnish is false hope and Disappointment.Treat as Fact because it's not a(Rumour)!

Anonymous said...

Please Okie, do NOT furnish any more disinfo. Not calling you a liar. Only stating that all of you gurus are being played by disinfo experts.

Perhaps if the gurus would not release information, such as stating "the 800 #'s will be released tonight into tomorrow morning", we would not have these sorry mishaps.

I still believe that nobody knows the rate or date. Those few on the planet who do know are not revealing it to "gurus" to spread to the masses.

Leaking critical information would hardly serve the purposes of the "good guys", which call for the element of surprise to thwart any attempts to sabotage the event, not to mention to avoid a currency buying frenzy by thousands, if not millions, of opportunists. This leads me to believe that "gurus" are being purposely misled, either to test responses, or to confuse and dishearten so that we're not in "predator mode" when this thing does happen.

In fact, surprising us with the true LOW rate would bring our enthusiasm way down past the point of becoming wild troublemakers.

We would stroll into the bank, sigh, and simply accept the "low" rate we didn't expect. That sure would keep us quiet, downtrodden and docile, and would suit the purposes of the PTB perfectly for keeping this thing under wraps.

I don't think it's in the hands of the banks. There are too many banks, and making that decision among them would be a very uncoordinated effort. Which bank has the final say, and on what grounds? How is that decision communicated to all other banks?

No, I think the AoP (Authors of the Plan) still hold the button, and may be waiting on things as yet unrevealed. Things completely different than we've been told. Things we would probably not believe if we were told the truth.

It would help everyone's nerves to take a breath and perhaps even step away from this situation for a couple of days. Things might just start happening.

Anonymous said...

Boy oh boy! You dinartards are something. Just won't face the fact the RV is a scam and has been for years. Guess this back and forth crap will continue for several more years while the country is slowly being destroyed by the bad guys. No one is going to get rich from dinar or the dong. Wonder what the next big investment scam is going to be when the rv crap finally dies?

Anonymous said...

The only that is still totally awesome for Tony is that there is still people who are STUPID enough to still listen to all his BS and Lies!

It will sure be fun watching all these idiot gurus get rounded up and having anything they own all taken from them when the feds finally go after them for all the harm they caused so many people over the years from all their lies.

I know something directly involved with a federal investigation going on to go after and arrest and indict all these idiots. This investigation has been on going for 4 years and they all are going to be indicted.

Anonymous said...

Yeah, there's a psyop going on. It's being done by your favorite guru, Okie.