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ROBERT CREAMER Served 5 months in prison (and 11 months in house arrest) for tax evasion and bank fraud While in prison, he wrote a book that later served as a blueprint for Democrat proposals for universal health care. Calls for the “democratization of wealth” in America, and for “progressive control of governments around the world” Advocates amnesty for illegal aliens Born in 1948, Robert Creamer is the husband of Democrat Rep. Jan Schakowsky. He formerly served as executive director of the Illinois Public Action Fund (where his wife was the program director), and subsequently as a leader of Citizen Action/Illinois. He was also a lobbyist for George Soros’s Open Society Institute. Today Creamer heads the Strategic Consulting Group, a political consultancy whose list of clients includes ACORN, the Service Employees International Union (SEIU), the AFL-CIO, the United Steelworkers Union of America, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, and dozens of other leftist or Democratic Party state organizations. Pursuant to an FBI investigation, Creamer in 2006 was indicted for bank fraud and tax evasion. During his trial, he received some 200 letters of support from such notables as Richard Durbin, Carol Browner, Jesse Jackson, and David Axelrod. Creamer ultimately was sentenced to five months in federal prison plus eleven months of house arrest. Upon his sentencing, he publicly pledged: “For the rest of my life I will continue to do whatever I can to work for social and economic justice.” While incarcerated -- or on “forced sabbatical,” as he called it -- Creamer wrote a 628-page political manual titled Stand Up Straight! How Progressives Can Win (published in 2007). In the Acknowledgements section of the book, Creamer stated that his political views had been deeply influenced by “the legendary community organizer” Saul Alinsky. Stand Up Straight! advanced the notion that the Democratic Party could win a permanent majority in Congress by doing the following: passing a national health care bill, thereby turning more people into wards of an ever-expanding government, and of the party that works to grow government; and giving amnesty to all illegal immigrants, thereby creating, virtually overnight, a large new constituency of Democratic voters. The author conceded that his desire “to reshape the structure of one-sixth of the American economy” (i.e., the health care sector) was contingent upon the Democrats being able to control 60 votes in the U.S. Senate, and upon the election of a “progressive Democrat” to the White House -- conditions that could, in Creamer's estimation, be achieved by the year 2009. Notably, his book was effusive in its praise of then-Senator Barack Obama. Creamer's book advocated a “public plan” that would guarantee every U.S. resident's “right” to health care; this plan eventually would serve as a model for the “public option” in subsequent legislative proposals by Congressional Democrats. In addition, Creamer laid out a “Progressive Agenda for Structural Change,” which included a ten-point plan to set the stage for implementing universal health care: “We must create a national consensus that health care is a right, not a commodity; and that government must guarantee that right.” “We must create a national consensus that the health care system is in crisis.” “Our messaging program over the next two years should focus heavily on reducing the credibility of the health insurance industry and focusing on the failure of private health insurance.” “We need to systematically forge relationships with large sectors of the business/employer community.” “We need to convince political leaders that they owe their elections, at least in part, to the groundswell of support of [sic] universal health care, and that they face political peril if they fail to deliver on universal health care in 2009.” “We need not agree in advance on the components of a plan, but we must foster a process that can ultimately yield consensus.” “Over the next two years, we must design and organize a massive national field program.” “We must focus especially on the mobilization of the labor movement and the faith community.” “We must systematically leverage the connections and resources of a massive array of institutions and organizations of all types.” “To be successful, we must put in place commitments for hundreds of millions of dollars to be used to finance paid communications and mobilization once the battle is joined.” “To win,” added Creamer, “we must not just generate understanding, but emotion—fear, revulsion, anger, disgust.” Beyond the narrow specifics of health care, Creamer in his book advocated the “democratization of wealth” in America and “progressive control of governments around the world.” Creamer also identified immigration as an issue that “will have an enormous impact on the battle for power between the progressive and conservative forces in American society.” He said: “If the Democrats continue to stand firmly for immigrant rights, the issue will define immigrants’ voting loyalties for a generation. If we are successful, a gigantic block of progressive votes will enter the electorate over the next 15 years—a block that could be decisive in the battle for the future.” Mirroring his approach to health care, Creamer stressed the importance of persuading religious leaders to lobby, on moral grounds, in favor of amnesty and expanded rights for illegal aliens. Stand Up Straight! was endorsed by a number of leading Democrats and their political allies, including: Greg Galluzzo, director of the Gamaliel Foundation; SEIU president Andrew Stern, who said the book would “hopefully inspire more people to act”; political strategist David Axelrod, who said it “provides a blueprint for future victories”; Democrat operative John Podesta, who called the book a “straight-up shot in the arm for progressives”; political commentator Arianna Huffington, who said it would help “return America to its progressive roots”; and Congressman John Lewis, who said the book would help “create our society’s next historical movement.” In 2008 Creamer worked for the Obama presidential campaign, training volunteers at “Camp Obama.” Today Creamer writes periodically for the Huffington Post. On November 19, 2009, he penned a piece that said: “If we succeed in winning health insurance reform we will have breached the gates of the status quo. We will demonstrate that fundamental change is possible. Into that breach will flow a wave of progressive change.” On November 24, 2009, Creamer attended a White House state dinner -- along with high-level Obama advisors like Andrew Stern and David Axelrod -- despite the fact that ex-convicts are usually barred from such events. In a December 2009 interview, Creamer said the following with regard to Senator Joseph Lieberman's opposition to government-run healthcare: "The problem with Lieberman is .... he has kind of the suicide-bomber kind of advantage. He doesn't care if he blows the whole house down. The best option for him, to a healthcare bill, is no bill; that's fine [with him]. He doesn't care if there's no bill, because the insurance industry is happy to have no bill. And he is happy -- gleeful -- to try and punish the left wing of the party that he believes wronged him." When the interviewer interjected that Lieberman was "a vindictive, spiteful, little, miserable man who is taking a lot of money from the insurance industry," Creamer said: "Absolutely miserable." http://www.DiscoverTheNetwork.org |
Friday, November 15, 2013
ROBERT CREAMER
Video: *****IMPORTANT*****- Aaron Russo {Full Film} - YouTube.
Dear Patriots (bcc herein w/permission to forward),
Thanks to Joan Hough, Board Member of The Confederate
Society of America, for re-forwarding this Video.
The Society issued it when it first came out but additional
elements have been included since.
Isn’t it strange how each of OUR predictions & warnings
over the years, discounted or ‘described’ by the
Powers in Washington as baseless & delusional while Maintaining &
Advancing control of this ‘Government’, have ALL proven TRUE!
A Major Historical Lie of the Greatest Magnitude has been
perpetuated upon the American People while YOUR Rights, Freedoms and
Independence have been compromised away- often under the stale tactical
application and lies associated with the element of Political Reconstruction
wherein they use
‘National Security’ to advance their ‘Oversight Powers’ or their
Cultural ‘Leg’ of Reconstruction, wherein they employ their Mantra of
Humanitarianism often coupled with a white guilt syndrome to perpetuate their
hegemony of deceit dividing & playing one race or another off of each
other.
Thus their various Pyramids of Power!
Only now are those concerns that WE Confederates have
expressed time in & time out being ‘approached’ and only because the
‘Glittering’ impact of this ‘Government’s’ total malfeasance & contempt for
this Constitutional Republic has become so APPARENT.
The total Negative Impact of THEIR Revisionist
Mandates & Reconstruction have resulted in many Americans being brought,
literally, to their knees acting much the same as a crushing boulder upon one’s
chest.
ALL this can NO longer be denied or swept away
under Their carpet as has been done in earlier decades.
The Negative Impact being seen & witnessed by ALL
coupled with the Profound Failure of Their National and International policies,
effected by
Progressive Plebiscites disguising themselves as
President, Vice-President, Senators and Congressional Representatives, is being
realized along with the consequences THEIR policies have brought about.
Once again, I will state the wisdom handed down to us by
our ancestors and parents that Washington has obsessively attempted to alter,
revise or destroy over time…..
The
TRUE American History of the Past is but a Reflection of Our Future.
If the
Moral Compass of that Past is in ANY way subjected to Political Alteration, it
will tear at the very fiber of our Republic’s Foundation, until such time when
ANY Originality relating to its formation will be made Invisible thanks to the
dereliction created by an Altered ‘Government’.
Understand the principles of this Republic’s Principled
Confederation as articulated and presented by this Confederate Society over
these last 21 years, and YOU will find, via a simple Comparison & Contrast,
all that once was as opposed to that which, unfortunately, has become!
We have labored, and will continue to do so, to inform YOU
of ALL that YOU have been denied and again challenge any, upon reflection of
the Research WE ask YOU to ascertain for yourselves, culminating from that
which WE have provided, to prove us wrong.
WE know that such Research will act much the same and serve
the purpose of an Educational Lightening Rod.
Education resulting from that which YOU have been denied is
now, in our humble opinion, the ONLY thing that can save this Republic this
side of a revolution.
America has been living a LIE, a Historical Lie of the most
major proportion, created and advanced by a litany of Washington Demagogues
over the last 150 years beginning in 1865.
Again, and ONLY NOW, are other’s ‘catching up’ to us as the
Reality of Washington’s Transition and Transformation Policies proving DEADLY.
For God, Family and the Republic of the Original Confederation of
Sovereign States,
We Must Separate,
Respectfully and Confederately,
Craig Maus,
President, The Confederate Society of America
‘A Country that knows NOT of Its Origin is like a Ship without a
Rudder- Sooner or Later IT Will Destroy Itself on the Reef of Stupidity’
Will Y’all Join the Society Now?
________________________________________________________________________________
From: Joan Hough
[mailto:johough@swbell.net]
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Joan Hough
Subject: **********IMPORTANT- Aaron Russo {Full Film} - YouTube
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:44 AM
To: Joan Hough
Subject: **********IMPORTANT- Aaron Russo {Full Film} - YouTube
DO NOT MISS THIS.
DO NOT MISS THIS. DO NOT! Joan Hough
On
11/13/13 6:26 PM, "Joyce Davis" <joyehough@att.net>
wrote:
A must see!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQUS: Pilot says passenger fell into ocean
US: Pilot says passenger
fell into ocean
Curt Anderson, The Associated Press, Miami | World | Fri,
November 15 2013, 12:40 PM
FAA spokeswoman Kathleen Bergen says the call came at 1:30 p.m. Thursday from the pilot of a Piper PA 46 aircraft. The plane was flying at about 2,000 feet (610 meters) when the call came in, she said.
Coast Guard and Miami-Dade Fire Rescue air and water units were searching an area about eight miles (13 kilometers) southeast of Tamiami Executive Airport, south of Miami, where the plane safely landed. It wasn't immediately clear where the flight originated or how many people were on board.
According to a recording on the website LiveATC.Net, the unidentified pilot calmly radioed "mayday, mayday, mayday," and told an air traffic controller a door was ajar.
"I have a door ajar and a passenger that fell down. I'm six 6 miles (10 kilometers) from Tamiami," the pilot says.
"You said you've got a passenger that fell out of your plane?" the air traffic controller responds.
"That's correct, sir," the pilot responded. "He opened the back door and he just fell out the plane."
LiveATC.Net provides live air traffic-control broadcasts from control towers and radar facilities around the world.
Both the Coast Guard and fire rescue officials said they hadn't confirmed whether the pilot's emergency call was legitimate. The Miami-Dade Police Department sent homicide detectives to the airport to further investigate, said spokesman Javier Baez. Police have not indicated any evidence of foul play, however.
"We're still gathering as many facts as we can," Baez said.
The Coast Guard had a small boat and a helicopter involved in the search, but Petty Officer Jon-Paul Rios said they stopped searching about 7 p.m. when it got too dark.
The fire rescue agency had three marine units and two aircraft, said Lt. Arnold Piedrahita, a fire rescue spokesman. It wasn't immediately clear whether they were still searching or when they planned to stop for the night.
According to an email from FAA spokeswoman Bergen, the pilot radioed air traffic controllers at Miami Terminal Radar Approach Control, which provides radar for flights within a 55-mile (90-kilometer) radius of Miami International Airport. The control center then notified the Coast Guard.
Bergen said in an email late Thursday that she had no new information.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2013/11/15/us-pilot-says-passenger-fell-ocean.html
Part 1 KTFA Frank26 & Member Dialogue
Part
1 KTFA Frank26 & Member Dialogue
11/15/2013
aWarren0611 » November 15th, 2013, 8:42 am • [Post 180] Hi
FRANK!
I'm sorry that I haven't been keeping up this week. My schedule got a little hectic ....but TGIFriday. Now, I can breathe and catch up! I MISSED A LOT!........ :huh?:
I APPRECIATE WALKINGSTICK'S ARTICLES . ..... I G..L..E..A..N ....A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ........WHAT'S GOING ON .....IN IRAQ (GOI, CBI & its people).
THEN,.. I SEARCH THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCIES' WEBSITES .....TO G..L..E..A..N .....WHERE THEY ARE .......WITH..the work .... BETWEEN IRAQ AND THE US, UNSC, IMF, and the WTO; ......as well as, THE TIMEFRAMES (mentioned in the articles)! GOODNESS !!!!!!!!!! I SEE LOTS OF :goodnews:
...
Read More Link On Right
I'm sorry that I haven't been keeping up this week. My schedule got a little hectic ....but TGIFriday. Now, I can breathe and catch up! I MISSED A LOT!........ :huh?:
I APPRECIATE WALKINGSTICK'S ARTICLES . ..... I G..L..E..A..N ....A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT ........WHAT'S GOING ON .....IN IRAQ (GOI, CBI & its people).
THEN,.. I SEARCH THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCIES' WEBSITES .....TO G..L..E..A..N .....WHERE THEY ARE .......WITH..the work .... BETWEEN IRAQ AND THE US, UNSC, IMF, and the WTO; ......as well as, THE TIMEFRAMES (mentioned in the articles)! GOODNESS !!!!!!!!!! I SEE LOTS OF :goodnews:
...
Read More Link On Right
aWarren0611
Continues: FRANK, I'M GOING
TO MAKE TWO POSTS FOR YOU TO GIVE ME INSIGHT ON......B/C .....THERE IS A LOT OF
CONCENTRATED INFORMATION ....IN THESE ARTICLES.
I N..E..E..D.. TO RELEASE WHAT'S IN MY HEAD...IT'S IN.. O..V..E..R..L..O..A..D
OK! THIS IS THE FIRST POST...
IT'S A QUESTION ... WITH ...CAPTIONED INFORMATION TO BACK UP WHY I HAVE THIS QUESTION
IT MAY BE ........JMP (just my perception) ......BUT .... IS IT POSSIBLE THAT........
IRAQ IS ALREADY IN CHAPTER VIII.....!!!! ....and that CHAPTER VIII ....... WAS WITHIN THE ....
SFA…..STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT ? JMP (just my perception)
I ASK THIS B/C, WHILE READING ARTICLES AND POSTS, NOVA MENTIONED (article 8),........ SO, I LOOKED UP THE U.N.S.C.s ......CHAPTER VIII.....AND .....IT DEALS WITH REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS CONCERNING INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IRAQ's ECONOMIC STATUS would progress NATIONALLY; FIRST and then ....... ALL AT ONE TIME..........DISPENSE GLOBALLY.
I SAY GLOBALLY ......B/C...........INTERNATIONALLY....... IS NO LONGER A STRONG ENOUGH WORD TO DESCRIBE ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TODAY.......BUT ...
I N..E..E..D.. TO RELEASE WHAT'S IN MY HEAD...IT'S IN.. O..V..E..R..L..O..A..D
OK! THIS IS THE FIRST POST...
IT'S A QUESTION ... WITH ...CAPTIONED INFORMATION TO BACK UP WHY I HAVE THIS QUESTION
IT MAY BE ........JMP (just my perception) ......BUT .... IS IT POSSIBLE THAT........
IRAQ IS ALREADY IN CHAPTER VIII.....!!!! ....and that CHAPTER VIII ....... WAS WITHIN THE ....
SFA…..STRATEGIC FRAMEWORK AGREEMENT ? JMP (just my perception)
I ASK THIS B/C, WHILE READING ARTICLES AND POSTS, NOVA MENTIONED (article 8),........ SO, I LOOKED UP THE U.N.S.C.s ......CHAPTER VIII.....AND .....IT DEALS WITH REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS CONCERNING INTERNATIONAL PEACE AND SECURITY.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IRAQ's ECONOMIC STATUS would progress NATIONALLY; FIRST and then ....... ALL AT ONE TIME..........DISPENSE GLOBALLY.
I SAY GLOBALLY ......B/C...........INTERNATIONALLY....... IS NO LONGER A STRONG ENOUGH WORD TO DESCRIBE ANY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD TODAY.......BUT ...
THERE IS ANOTHER STEP IN
BETWEEN THIS PROCESS ..............AND IT IS ...R...E...G..I..O..N..A..L; which
is NOW .....THE NEW INTERNATIONAL.....FOR IRAQ.
I CAPTIONED (Cap) A FEW POINTS OF INTEREST TO ME UNDER CHAPTER VIII:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter8.shtml[/
Cap 1: SEE Article 52 ------ the UN charter....has no precluded references concerning anything like this taking place in an entire region before......SO, this is newly CHARTERED territory! : : :))
Iraq is to achieve A PACIFIC SETTLEMENT OF LOCAL DISPUTES .......through REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS OR REGIONAL AGENCIES .....BEFORE REFERRING ...LOCAL DISPUTES TO THE UNSC...
IRAQ IS BEING TRUSTED ..... TO HANDLE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS .........(IN THE REGION)
PRIME MINISTER MALIKI WENT BACK and truly,...... HE IS ON THE CASE
the UN encourages the DEVELOPMENT of the Pacific Settlement......of LOCAL DISPUTES ....to be the INITIATIVE OF THE STATES ( in the REGION)
:?: and I'm curious about Articles 34 & 35 !!!!
Cap 2: SEE Article 53 ---- NONE OF THE ENFORCEMENTS OF THESE REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS AND REGIONAL AGENCIES COULD BE TAKING PLACE ........W/O ..........THE UNSC's AUTHORIZATION .....unless they (Iraq)... is dealing with an enemy state (btw: this term was defined during the WWII) ....THEN IRAQ .... doesn't need the UNSC authorization to STRATEGICALLY protect itself according to THE UNSC MEMBER STATES AGREEMENTS.
idea: .... DELTA had said that Prime Minister Maliki returned to Iraq on that Friday after the Washington meeting was cut short with President Obama ..........
but Frank you stated that .....he went somewhere else.... N.Y., Europe, somewhere; maybe to visit his family. Could it be that he went to the UNSC ... to show a signed SFA, thus signifying the UNSC to initiate the CHAPTER VIII ....hidden inside the SFA??????????
Cap 3: SEE Article 54 ---- the UNSC requires..........to be fully informed of all activities undertaken or contemplated under the regional arrangements or regional agencies................ for international peace and security.
:idea: THIS SOUNDS LIKE ......IRAQ.....HAS BEEN GIVEN WINGS TO FLY!!!!!
IT'S LIKE WATCHING YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER ..........GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.............AND THEN ...... THEY'RE OFF ....TO GO INTO WORKFORCE .......AND ESTABLISH A PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!
THIS IS HUGE STUFF :flyaway: !!!!!!!!!!! FLY IRAQ!!! FLY!!!! YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!! NOW, I'M EXCITED!!!
smilin4dinar » November 15th, 2013, 9:07 am • [Post 190] EXCELLENT POST! I SURE HOPE YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING!!!
by laurakreeves1 » November 15th, 2013, 10:12 am • [Post 201] Impressive insight!!! Thanks for sharing. I look forward to hearing what other intellects think about your perception and research!!
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:17 am • [Post 219] aWarren0611, Hmmm.......... Friend ......... You are doing good homework. Look............ Suffice it to say You are looking in the correct direction.
You took notes on The Pacific Settlement ........ You considered my idea of M not returning directly to Iraq.
They are pushing Iraq out of the nest .............. The darn bird is ready to fly but gets heavier each day.
BTW ......... It's the UNSC's Ch6 they are entering and IMF's Article 8. If They comply with IMF then they can enter Ch6.
Tell You what ........... Watch what I say about the following news articles. They contain WHAT we have said and WHAT we will soon see. KTFA, Frank....... I will do Three Articles....... Please enjoy.
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:25 am • [Post 220] #1
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 8:35 am: Iraq reveals the high value of oil exports last year to 110 trillion dinars 15/11/2013 - 13:25 Alsumaria News / Baghdad
revealed the Iraqi Ministry of Planning, on Friday, rising oil exports last year's 2012 to 110 trillion dinars, noting that the total material commodity rose is the other to record four trillion dinars. said Central Bureau of Statistics of the Ministry of Planning in a statement, received "Alsumaria News , "a copy of it,"
The value of oil exports in 2012 rose by 13.3% to reach 110 trillion dinars, the equivalent of $ 94 billion, compared to 2011, which recorded a 97.1 trillion dinars, the equivalent of $ 83 billion, up 17% from 2007 " . statement added that "Total Commodity materials other than oil rose are also recorded four trillion dinars in 2012 registered an increase rate of 1% for the year 2011, reaching trillion dinars."
Iraq relies 95% in the budget of public imports derived from the export of crude oil , come 90 percent of these exports come from oil fields in Basra. LINK
The WORLD wants to be a part of this profit. Especially China.
It is gross to consider this monstrous revenue to be computed at 1166 ........... Forever. EVERYONE is losing ........ Even Iraq.
They are out of Ch7 ......... Free to run .......... With great potential to their economic structure at an internationally accepted currency rate. And .......... THIS JUST THEIR OIL !!! KTFA, Frank
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:30 am • [Post 221] #2
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 8:54 am: Washington paid for the deployment of federal troops and Kurdish Palmtnazaa admin Friday , November 15, 2013
Said Mahmoud Othman, a leader of the Kurdistan Alliance, said U.S. officials, trying to coordinate efforts between the Peshmerga forces and the Iraqi army and police to manage the security file in the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil. "
And between Osman, that Joe Biden, U.S. Vice President in contact with dial latter with Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan region, view his country's efforts to strengthen cooperation between the region and Baghdad to fight terrorism in the country.
Osman said that U.S. forces in Iraq, was running the security file in the disputed areas with the participation of Iraqi army and Kurdish Peshmerga, and it is seeking Washington today to engage the region and Baghdad in the face of violence newcomer to the region and the conflict in Iraqi cities on a daily basis, as explained Osman.
Biden was, discussed during the telephone call with Barzani, the security challenges faced by Iraqis, and the need for close coordination between the Erbil and Baghdad to isolate organizations and terrorist networks, with the U.S. commitment to the continued partnership with Iraq to fight al-Qaeda, according to a statement issued by the Presidency of the Kurdistan region.
said Wesal Selim MP for the Iraqi List, terrorism rack in all regions of Iraq, but the ways and methods of degrees. "
stressed Salim , a member of the Commission on Human Rights Parliamentary, the need to control the borders of Iraq with the neighborhood and completely closed on terror, with the use of methods of defense advanced to protect them from the infiltration of extremists into Iraq.
showed Salim, Iraq, and 10 years ago did not spend on terror, because of the agendas and files and nearby countries and regional help the survival of Iraq with this form of blood and an interest from it.
At a meeting between the Minister of Human Rights Mohammed Xiaa Sudanese, and Nikolai Meladnov Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Baghdad a few days ago, parties stressed the need to take the international community's role in the development of characterization true of what is happening in Iraq, terrorism, blind targeting components of the Iraqi people rise to the level of genocide.
Iraq has terrorist operations varied between explosions of cars and improvised explosive devices and murder of identity and belonging, and displacement of ethnic and sectarian hit with plug-and-destruction, as are the security services likely to die at the hands of terrorism and armed groups that claimed the lives of thousands of Iraqis, and the October / October last year the bloodiest, 964 people were killed.
LINK
Remember on our Monday's CC when we pointed out that When M visited O in the WH he asked for weapons and O said ........ No. Then we shared that M could have some BUT ONLY via our control and supervision? Well........... TA TD ........ How is that for ....... Super Vision?.......... :rofl: KTFA, Frank
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:37 am • [Post 223] #3
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 9:18 am: CBI intends to issue bonds loan of $ 3 billion dinars Branch of the Central Bank of Iraq in Basra (Archive) Ahmed Al-Zubaidi 15/11/2013
Intends to CBI, as part of its plans to reduce the level of inflation, to issue a bond loan in Iraqi dinars, and for the first time since 2003.
announced general manager combating money laundering and terrorism financing in the bank Khalid Hameed Cltag, the issuance of these bonds will pull block yet Markets estimated three billion dinars.
to that expressed Economists satisfaction with the move, which they described as good, and said it will contribute to reducing inflation, calling for the central bank to the need to educate the citizens of the importance of these bonds and benefits of financial such as launch.
said economist appearance of Mohammed Saleh need to take a lot of measures such as the launch of these bonds, fearing the control of the banks it instead of citizens, stressing the need to adopt modern methods: including the launch of bonds electronic, not paper, as well as making interest rate by a competitor of interest offered by banks on deposits of citizens.
The process of issuing bonds loan is one of the options monetary policy that is used to pull the blocks cash from citizens, including serves to reduce inflation in Iraq.
backed the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives this step, stressing that the central bank will be the guarantor of these bonds no fear of buying them.
confirmed Committee member Najiba Najib said the move is good, although the actual value of these bonds convergence of three billion dinars, which is a small percentage compared to mass current monetary, calling on citizens to buy them.
This is estimated by economists in Iraq, the size of the money supply compacta among citizens as well as traded on the market at $ three trillion Iraqi dinars matter which some have described as representing a significant financial inflation.
http://www.iraqhurr.org/content/article/25169207.html
We told You on Tuesday's CC and combined with a Blue Post on Wednesday that Turki was in Geneva buying bonds to control core inflation ........... Ta Da.
BUT ........... DO NOT FORGET what we told You Shabibi said about this process and why it would occur.......... At the ending of their monetary reform. This makes ........ The third article.
Currently .There is so much info in articles. Be a Student of Your Gift from God.Aloha .. \m/ KTFA, Frank
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/part-1-ktfa-frank26-member-dialogue.html
I CAPTIONED (Cap) A FEW POINTS OF INTEREST TO ME UNDER CHAPTER VIII:
http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter8.shtml[/
Cap 1: SEE Article 52 ------ the UN charter....has no precluded references concerning anything like this taking place in an entire region before......SO, this is newly CHARTERED territory! : : :))
Iraq is to achieve A PACIFIC SETTLEMENT OF LOCAL DISPUTES .......through REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS OR REGIONAL AGENCIES .....BEFORE REFERRING ...LOCAL DISPUTES TO THE UNSC...
IRAQ IS BEING TRUSTED ..... TO HANDLE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS .........(IN THE REGION)
PRIME MINISTER MALIKI WENT BACK and truly,...... HE IS ON THE CASE
the UN encourages the DEVELOPMENT of the Pacific Settlement......of LOCAL DISPUTES ....to be the INITIATIVE OF THE STATES ( in the REGION)
:?: and I'm curious about Articles 34 & 35 !!!!
Cap 2: SEE Article 53 ---- NONE OF THE ENFORCEMENTS OF THESE REGIONAL ARRANGEMENTS AND REGIONAL AGENCIES COULD BE TAKING PLACE ........W/O ..........THE UNSC's AUTHORIZATION .....unless they (Iraq)... is dealing with an enemy state (btw: this term was defined during the WWII) ....THEN IRAQ .... doesn't need the UNSC authorization to STRATEGICALLY protect itself according to THE UNSC MEMBER STATES AGREEMENTS.
idea: .... DELTA had said that Prime Minister Maliki returned to Iraq on that Friday after the Washington meeting was cut short with President Obama ..........
but Frank you stated that .....he went somewhere else.... N.Y., Europe, somewhere; maybe to visit his family. Could it be that he went to the UNSC ... to show a signed SFA, thus signifying the UNSC to initiate the CHAPTER VIII ....hidden inside the SFA??????????
Cap 3: SEE Article 54 ---- the UNSC requires..........to be fully informed of all activities undertaken or contemplated under the regional arrangements or regional agencies................ for international peace and security.
:idea: THIS SOUNDS LIKE ......IRAQ.....HAS BEEN GIVEN WINGS TO FLY!!!!!
IT'S LIKE WATCHING YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER ..........GRADUATE FROM COLLEGE.............AND THEN ...... THEY'RE OFF ....TO GO INTO WORKFORCE .......AND ESTABLISH A PLACE IN THE WORLD FOR THEMSELVES!!!!!
THIS IS HUGE STUFF :flyaway: !!!!!!!!!!! FLY IRAQ!!! FLY!!!! YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!! NOW, I'M EXCITED!!!
smilin4dinar » November 15th, 2013, 9:07 am • [Post 190] EXCELLENT POST! I SURE HOPE YOU ARE ON TO SOMETHING!!!
by laurakreeves1 » November 15th, 2013, 10:12 am • [Post 201] Impressive insight!!! Thanks for sharing. I look forward to hearing what other intellects think about your perception and research!!
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:17 am • [Post 219] aWarren0611, Hmmm.......... Friend ......... You are doing good homework. Look............ Suffice it to say You are looking in the correct direction.
You took notes on The Pacific Settlement ........ You considered my idea of M not returning directly to Iraq.
They are pushing Iraq out of the nest .............. The darn bird is ready to fly but gets heavier each day.
BTW ......... It's the UNSC's Ch6 they are entering and IMF's Article 8. If They comply with IMF then they can enter Ch6.
Tell You what ........... Watch what I say about the following news articles. They contain WHAT we have said and WHAT we will soon see. KTFA, Frank....... I will do Three Articles....... Please enjoy.
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:25 am • [Post 220] #1
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 8:35 am: Iraq reveals the high value of oil exports last year to 110 trillion dinars 15/11/2013 - 13:25 Alsumaria News / Baghdad
revealed the Iraqi Ministry of Planning, on Friday, rising oil exports last year's 2012 to 110 trillion dinars, noting that the total material commodity rose is the other to record four trillion dinars. said Central Bureau of Statistics of the Ministry of Planning in a statement, received "Alsumaria News , "a copy of it,"
The value of oil exports in 2012 rose by 13.3% to reach 110 trillion dinars, the equivalent of $ 94 billion, compared to 2011, which recorded a 97.1 trillion dinars, the equivalent of $ 83 billion, up 17% from 2007 " . statement added that "Total Commodity materials other than oil rose are also recorded four trillion dinars in 2012 registered an increase rate of 1% for the year 2011, reaching trillion dinars."
Iraq relies 95% in the budget of public imports derived from the export of crude oil , come 90 percent of these exports come from oil fields in Basra. LINK
The WORLD wants to be a part of this profit. Especially China.
It is gross to consider this monstrous revenue to be computed at 1166 ........... Forever. EVERYONE is losing ........ Even Iraq.
They are out of Ch7 ......... Free to run .......... With great potential to their economic structure at an internationally accepted currency rate. And .......... THIS JUST THEIR OIL !!! KTFA, Frank
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:30 am • [Post 221] #2
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 8:54 am: Washington paid for the deployment of federal troops and Kurdish Palmtnazaa admin Friday , November 15, 2013
Said Mahmoud Othman, a leader of the Kurdistan Alliance, said U.S. officials, trying to coordinate efforts between the Peshmerga forces and the Iraqi army and police to manage the security file in the disputed areas between Baghdad and Erbil. "
And between Osman, that Joe Biden, U.S. Vice President in contact with dial latter with Massoud Barzani, president of the Kurdistan region, view his country's efforts to strengthen cooperation between the region and Baghdad to fight terrorism in the country.
Osman said that U.S. forces in Iraq, was running the security file in the disputed areas with the participation of Iraqi army and Kurdish Peshmerga, and it is seeking Washington today to engage the region and Baghdad in the face of violence newcomer to the region and the conflict in Iraqi cities on a daily basis, as explained Osman.
Biden was, discussed during the telephone call with Barzani, the security challenges faced by Iraqis, and the need for close coordination between the Erbil and Baghdad to isolate organizations and terrorist networks, with the U.S. commitment to the continued partnership with Iraq to fight al-Qaeda, according to a statement issued by the Presidency of the Kurdistan region.
said Wesal Selim MP for the Iraqi List, terrorism rack in all regions of Iraq, but the ways and methods of degrees. "
stressed Salim , a member of the Commission on Human Rights Parliamentary, the need to control the borders of Iraq with the neighborhood and completely closed on terror, with the use of methods of defense advanced to protect them from the infiltration of extremists into Iraq.
showed Salim, Iraq, and 10 years ago did not spend on terror, because of the agendas and files and nearby countries and regional help the survival of Iraq with this form of blood and an interest from it.
At a meeting between the Minister of Human Rights Mohammed Xiaa Sudanese, and Nikolai Meladnov Representative of the Secretary-General of the United Nations in Baghdad a few days ago, parties stressed the need to take the international community's role in the development of characterization true of what is happening in Iraq, terrorism, blind targeting components of the Iraqi people rise to the level of genocide.
Iraq has terrorist operations varied between explosions of cars and improvised explosive devices and murder of identity and belonging, and displacement of ethnic and sectarian hit with plug-and-destruction, as are the security services likely to die at the hands of terrorism and armed groups that claimed the lives of thousands of Iraqis, and the October / October last year the bloodiest, 964 people were killed.
LINK
Remember on our Monday's CC when we pointed out that When M visited O in the WH he asked for weapons and O said ........ No. Then we shared that M could have some BUT ONLY via our control and supervision? Well........... TA TD ........ How is that for ....... Super Vision?.......... :rofl: KTFA, Frank
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:37 am • [Post 223] #3
walkongstick wrote on November 15th, 2013, 9:18 am: CBI intends to issue bonds loan of $ 3 billion dinars Branch of the Central Bank of Iraq in Basra (Archive) Ahmed Al-Zubaidi 15/11/2013
Intends to CBI, as part of its plans to reduce the level of inflation, to issue a bond loan in Iraqi dinars, and for the first time since 2003.
announced general manager combating money laundering and terrorism financing in the bank Khalid Hameed Cltag, the issuance of these bonds will pull block yet Markets estimated three billion dinars.
to that expressed Economists satisfaction with the move, which they described as good, and said it will contribute to reducing inflation, calling for the central bank to the need to educate the citizens of the importance of these bonds and benefits of financial such as launch.
said economist appearance of Mohammed Saleh need to take a lot of measures such as the launch of these bonds, fearing the control of the banks it instead of citizens, stressing the need to adopt modern methods: including the launch of bonds electronic, not paper, as well as making interest rate by a competitor of interest offered by banks on deposits of citizens.
The process of issuing bonds loan is one of the options monetary policy that is used to pull the blocks cash from citizens, including serves to reduce inflation in Iraq.
backed the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives this step, stressing that the central bank will be the guarantor of these bonds no fear of buying them.
confirmed Committee member Najiba Najib said the move is good, although the actual value of these bonds convergence of three billion dinars, which is a small percentage compared to mass current monetary, calling on citizens to buy them.
This is estimated by economists in Iraq, the size of the money supply compacta among citizens as well as traded on the market at $ three trillion Iraqi dinars matter which some have described as representing a significant financial inflation.
http://www.iraqhurr.org/content/article/25169207.html
We told You on Tuesday's CC and combined with a Blue Post on Wednesday that Turki was in Geneva buying bonds to control core inflation ........... Ta Da.
BUT ........... DO NOT FORGET what we told You Shabibi said about this process and why it would occur.......... At the ending of their monetary reform. This makes ........ The third article.
Currently .There is so much info in articles. Be a Student of Your Gift from God.Aloha .. \m/ KTFA, Frank
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/part-1-ktfa-frank26-member-dialogue.html
Part 2 KTFA Frank26 & Member Dialogue
Part
2 KTFA Frank26 & Member Dialogue
11/15/2013
walkingstick » November 15th, 2013, 9:18 am • [Post 194]
CBI intends to issue bonds loan of $ 3 billion dinars
-- Branch of the Central Bank of Iraq in Basra (Archive) Ahmed
Al-Zubaidi 15/11/2013
Intends to CBI, as part of its plans to reduce the level of inflation, to issue a bond loan in Iraqi dinars, and for the first time since 2003. announced general manager combating money laundering and terrorism financing in the bank Khalid Hameed Cltag, the issuance of these bonds will pull block yet Markets estimated three billion dinars.
to that expressed Economists satisfaction with the move, which they described as good, and said it will contribute to reducing inflation, calling for the central bank to the need to educate the citizens of the importance of these bonds and benefits of financial such as launch.
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Intends to CBI, as part of its plans to reduce the level of inflation, to issue a bond loan in Iraqi dinars, and for the first time since 2003. announced general manager combating money laundering and terrorism financing in the bank Khalid Hameed Cltag, the issuance of these bonds will pull block yet Markets estimated three billion dinars.
to that expressed Economists satisfaction with the move, which they described as good, and said it will contribute to reducing inflation, calling for the central bank to the need to educate the citizens of the importance of these bonds and benefits of financial such as launch.
...
Read More Link On Right
said economist appearance of Mohammed Saleh need to take a lot of measures such
as the launch of these bonds, fearing the control of the banks it instead of
citizens, stressing the need to adopt
modern methods: including the launch of bonds electronic, not paper,
as well as making interest rate by a competitor of interest offered by banks on
deposits of citizens.
The process of issuing bonds loan is one of the options monetary policy that is used to pull the blocks cash from citizens, including serves to reduce inflation in Iraq.
backed the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives this step, stressing that the central bank will be the guarantor of these bonds no fear of buying them.
confirmed Committee member Najiba Najib said the move is good, although the actual value of these bonds convergence of three billion dinars, which is a small percentage compared to mass current monetary, calling on citizens to buy them.
This is estimated by economists in Iraq, the size of the money supply compacta among citizens as well as traded on the market at $ three trillion Iraqi dinars matter which some have described as representing a significant financial inflation.
http://www.iraqhurr.org/content/article/25169207.html
Gearhead » November 15th, 2013, 10:30 am • [Post 205] The high value of Iraq's oil exports in 2012 to $ 94 billion 15-11-2013 | (Voice of Iraq)
The value of Iraq's oil exports in 2012 to $ 94 billion compared to 83 billion in 2011.
The Central Bureau of Statistics of the Ministry of Planning said in a statement, "The value of oil exports in 2012 rose by 13.3% to reach to 110 trillion dinars, the equivalent of 94 billion dollars, compared with 2011, which recorded a 97.1 trillion dinars, the equivalent of 83 billion dollars." Iraq relies 95% in the general budget of imports derived from the export of crude oil, and 90% comes from the export of oil fields in Basra.
Read more: LINK
KCGWS » November 15th, 2013, 9:24 am • [Post 195] In a land far, far away........................GOOOOOD MORNING IRAQ...........It is the 15 of the month, remember how you like the 15th?? Daddy O says you need to be done, IMF says you need to be done, UN says you need to be done, WTO says you need to be done, Knarf says you need to be done....... and the greatest LPLP Queen of all time says, GIT UR DONE.....AND YOU KNOW IT ISN'T NICE TO TRY AND FOOL DUSTI, SO GIT UR DONE!
(all of this is done in imo, for fun, and is not legal or financial advise so raspberries to all laywers who wish to make anything else out it!)
soccermom » November 15th, 2013, 11:34 am • [Post 222] Frank, With all of this budget "delay" talk, I had a question. Do we need the budget approved to have a RV? I mean, if the GOI and CBI are separate and we need to look at it that way, then it seems to me that we don't need that budget to be approved to have a change in value, right? The parliament can wait til
they return to officially approve it cuz it's really already been done, right?? It's just a game they are playing with us. Am I at all Correct in my thinking? Soccermom
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:47 am • [Post 227] soccermom, The budget can be approved with any rate.
Each year we anticipate a different rate due to this budget delay passing.
I think it is simply their lazy lackadaisical approach to many things.
What T is doing with bonds for the CBI is more significant than this listless lethargic budget.
A man and a woman are separate but can NEVER reproduce without each other.
But first they need to get along and respect each others' roles. KTFA, Frank
Frank.......... IMO .... There is no budget delay. It is what they put in our imaginations. Can You imagine?.........
gfulcher66 » November 15th, 2013, 11:51 am • [Post 228] your good Frankie and team 26 !!!!!!!!! I think the bonds are so telling of a rate change, it will stop the auctions and be the new international procedure if logic dictates
Society wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:44 am: And that was 2012.....think about 2013 and 2014
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:56 am • [Post 230] True That Sir! Amazing ......... They told us a few months ago they have all the budgets set for the next FIVE YEARS ........ BUT...... They can not seem to find the next one for 2014.......... BOZOS.
IMO........ These set budgets at WHATEVER rate are like piñatas filled with goodies for ........... So Many.
Please Lord ........... You have set Iraq free with Ch 7 removed ........... Now tell them to set US FREE for You Lord....... Amen ... Amen ... Amen.
I Believe I can Fly. KTFA, Frank........ No ....... I Know I can......... To reach and touch the Face of God.
Unknown Honson Fan wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:45 am: My calculator says 3 billion dinar x 3.86 = 11580000000
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:59 am • [Post 231] "My God ............ It's full of Stars." KTFA, Frank
gfulcher66 wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:51 am: your good Frankie and team 26 !!!!!!!!! I think the bonds are so telling of a rate change, it will stop the auctions and be the new international procedure if logic dictates :woot:
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 12:04 pm • [Post 233] Hmmm............. Logic and ......... Logistics.
I go to be with dad now........ I missed him yesterday due to a doctors appointment.
Aloha KTFA Family........ I will help answer Your qts as I peek in every hour. Aloha from my Heart...
KTFA, Frank.......PS ....... Keep asking NOVA and Skull Crushers qts ...... They are kinda smart.
jdtolle » November 15th, 2013, 9:55 am • [Post 199]
Real, fulfilling life
Life gives to you what you give to life. The way you experience life depends on the way you choose to live it.
If you act according to your own greed, you will suffer from the greed of others. If you live with hatred you will be the recipient of hatred.
When you live out of a sense of authentic love, you will receive love from others. Live with true respect, and you will be truly respected.
You cannot possibly get the good things you do not wish to give. You cannot possibly avoid receiving in return whatever it is you offer to life.
A puzzle that is solved for you is really not any fun. A life that is lived for you is no life at all.
Make your own way, shoulder your own burdens, and give your very best in every moment. That is real, fulfilling life, and it is priceless. — Ralph Marston May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/part-2-ktfa-frank26-member-dialogue.html
The process of issuing bonds loan is one of the options monetary policy that is used to pull the blocks cash from citizens, including serves to reduce inflation in Iraq.
backed the Finance Committee in the House of Representatives this step, stressing that the central bank will be the guarantor of these bonds no fear of buying them.
confirmed Committee member Najiba Najib said the move is good, although the actual value of these bonds convergence of three billion dinars, which is a small percentage compared to mass current monetary, calling on citizens to buy them.
This is estimated by economists in Iraq, the size of the money supply compacta among citizens as well as traded on the market at $ three trillion Iraqi dinars matter which some have described as representing a significant financial inflation.
http://www.iraqhurr.org/content/article/25169207.html
Gearhead » November 15th, 2013, 10:30 am • [Post 205] The high value of Iraq's oil exports in 2012 to $ 94 billion 15-11-2013 | (Voice of Iraq)
The value of Iraq's oil exports in 2012 to $ 94 billion compared to 83 billion in 2011.
The Central Bureau of Statistics of the Ministry of Planning said in a statement, "The value of oil exports in 2012 rose by 13.3% to reach to 110 trillion dinars, the equivalent of 94 billion dollars, compared with 2011, which recorded a 97.1 trillion dinars, the equivalent of 83 billion dollars." Iraq relies 95% in the general budget of imports derived from the export of crude oil, and 90% comes from the export of oil fields in Basra.
Read more: LINK
KCGWS » November 15th, 2013, 9:24 am • [Post 195] In a land far, far away........................GOOOOOD MORNING IRAQ...........It is the 15 of the month, remember how you like the 15th?? Daddy O says you need to be done, IMF says you need to be done, UN says you need to be done, WTO says you need to be done, Knarf says you need to be done....... and the greatest LPLP Queen of all time says, GIT UR DONE.....AND YOU KNOW IT ISN'T NICE TO TRY AND FOOL DUSTI, SO GIT UR DONE!
(all of this is done in imo, for fun, and is not legal or financial advise so raspberries to all laywers who wish to make anything else out it!)
soccermom » November 15th, 2013, 11:34 am • [Post 222] Frank, With all of this budget "delay" talk, I had a question. Do we need the budget approved to have a RV? I mean, if the GOI and CBI are separate and we need to look at it that way, then it seems to me that we don't need that budget to be approved to have a change in value, right? The parliament can wait til
they return to officially approve it cuz it's really already been done, right?? It's just a game they are playing with us. Am I at all Correct in my thinking? Soccermom
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:47 am • [Post 227] soccermom, The budget can be approved with any rate.
Each year we anticipate a different rate due to this budget delay passing.
I think it is simply their lazy lackadaisical approach to many things.
What T is doing with bonds for the CBI is more significant than this listless lethargic budget.
A man and a woman are separate but can NEVER reproduce without each other.
But first they need to get along and respect each others' roles. KTFA, Frank
Frank.......... IMO .... There is no budget delay. It is what they put in our imaginations. Can You imagine?.........
gfulcher66 » November 15th, 2013, 11:51 am • [Post 228] your good Frankie and team 26 !!!!!!!!! I think the bonds are so telling of a rate change, it will stop the auctions and be the new international procedure if logic dictates
Society wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:44 am: And that was 2012.....think about 2013 and 2014
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:56 am • [Post 230] True That Sir! Amazing ......... They told us a few months ago they have all the budgets set for the next FIVE YEARS ........ BUT...... They can not seem to find the next one for 2014.......... BOZOS.
IMO........ These set budgets at WHATEVER rate are like piñatas filled with goodies for ........... So Many.
Please Lord ........... You have set Iraq free with Ch 7 removed ........... Now tell them to set US FREE for You Lord....... Amen ... Amen ... Amen.
I Believe I can Fly. KTFA, Frank........ No ....... I Know I can......... To reach and touch the Face of God.
Unknown Honson Fan wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:45 am: My calculator says 3 billion dinar x 3.86 = 11580000000
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 11:59 am • [Post 231] "My God ............ It's full of Stars." KTFA, Frank
gfulcher66 wrote on November 15th, 2013, 11:51 am: your good Frankie and team 26 !!!!!!!!! I think the bonds are so telling of a rate change, it will stop the auctions and be the new international procedure if logic dictates :woot:
Frank26 » November 15th, 2013, 12:04 pm • [Post 233] Hmmm............. Logic and ......... Logistics.
I go to be with dad now........ I missed him yesterday due to a doctors appointment.
Aloha KTFA Family........ I will help answer Your qts as I peek in every hour. Aloha from my Heart...
KTFA, Frank.......PS ....... Keep asking NOVA and Skull Crushers qts ...... They are kinda smart.
jdtolle » November 15th, 2013, 9:55 am • [Post 199]
Real, fulfilling life
Life gives to you what you give to life. The way you experience life depends on the way you choose to live it.
If you act according to your own greed, you will suffer from the greed of others. If you live with hatred you will be the recipient of hatred.
When you live out of a sense of authentic love, you will receive love from others. Live with true respect, and you will be truly respected.
You cannot possibly get the good things you do not wish to give. You cannot possibly avoid receiving in return whatever it is you offer to life.
A puzzle that is solved for you is really not any fun. A life that is lived for you is no life at all.
Make your own way, shoulder your own burdens, and give your very best in every moment. That is real, fulfilling life, and it is priceless. — Ralph Marston May All Have a Safe and Blessed Day
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/part-2-ktfa-frank26-member-dialogue.html
The biggest secret of mankind - The Clementine conspiracy a.k.a. Project Golden dragon
2013-11-15
The biggest secret of mankind - The Clementine conspiracy a.k.a. Project Golden
dragon
Vatic Note: We published a blog several years back about the advancement
and secrecy of the US Space weapons command under the US Navy. AT that
time they were denying any of it and I began to wonder if that was the reason
for all the deaths of the British Scientists who worked on "Star
Wars" "Defence program" that was really an offensive
weapons program, that congress did not know about.
Well, we then did research and reporting on Part II of that series and that is where we did the most on Clementine and the Moon shots they did in mapping the moon. You have to scholl down a bit til you get to clementine. This is a good one to read before reading and watching this below. Let me make it clear, this one is a time commitment so be prepared to come back to it to finish reading/watching it. But Clementine is ever more than offensive weapons.
Its job is to be able to early on far out, identify any threats from "outter" space, not inner. This fits with what Bill Cooper told us. He said that there was to be a bogus threat from space that the powers that be will want us to globalize to fight them, but he said, that in reality they are good guys coming to help us and that is why the evil ones want to destroy them and will try to use us to fight them as bad guys.
As I have said before THIS IS NOT A FAST FOOD, HEADLINE TITILLATING SITE. Its for those sincerely seeking TRUTH, no matter where it leads. Just a quick note, if you read about Clementine all the way through, and about how THE SPACE WEAPONS CAN LIFT A SMALL LAKE OF WATER, THEN THINK ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES, WE CAN SEE THAT THIS MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A DUAL PURPOSE ACT, OF THE NON NASA MILITARY TO TEST THIS TECHNOLOGY WHILE ALSO PUNISHING THE PHILIPPINES FOR RESISTING ROTHSCHILD BANKING.
There is a lot here for those truly interested in just how long and how advanced we have been in this space war and weapons business and what is involved. Who are we preparing for? Much of it was done jointly with Russia and Some with China. Those are designated as our BOGUS WW III ENEMIES who have been involved with us in all of this. This is one way to know just how bogus and criminal this third world war really is going to be. This is planned murder of our citizens and the citizens of other nations they are dragging into this game/scam. These are truly INSANE PEOPLE we are dealing with here , as you will see.
We (all citizens of all nations) have no enemies except the foreign occupiers of our government who have set us up to accumulate some enemies, through their actions, in order to take us down, since America is their biggest and most dangerous obstacle to their global domination plans.
The biggest secret of mankind - The Clementine conspiracy a.k.a. Project Golden dragon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOKnRjAWjh4
published by 1967 Sander on May 3, 2013
Well, we then did research and reporting on Part II of that series and that is where we did the most on Clementine and the Moon shots they did in mapping the moon. You have to scholl down a bit til you get to clementine. This is a good one to read before reading and watching this below. Let me make it clear, this one is a time commitment so be prepared to come back to it to finish reading/watching it. But Clementine is ever more than offensive weapons.
Its job is to be able to early on far out, identify any threats from "outter" space, not inner. This fits with what Bill Cooper told us. He said that there was to be a bogus threat from space that the powers that be will want us to globalize to fight them, but he said, that in reality they are good guys coming to help us and that is why the evil ones want to destroy them and will try to use us to fight them as bad guys.
As I have said before THIS IS NOT A FAST FOOD, HEADLINE TITILLATING SITE. Its for those sincerely seeking TRUTH, no matter where it leads. Just a quick note, if you read about Clementine all the way through, and about how THE SPACE WEAPONS CAN LIFT A SMALL LAKE OF WATER, THEN THINK ABOUT THE PHILIPPINES, WE CAN SEE THAT THIS MAY WELL HAVE BEEN A DUAL PURPOSE ACT, OF THE NON NASA MILITARY TO TEST THIS TECHNOLOGY WHILE ALSO PUNISHING THE PHILIPPINES FOR RESISTING ROTHSCHILD BANKING.
There is a lot here for those truly interested in just how long and how advanced we have been in this space war and weapons business and what is involved. Who are we preparing for? Much of it was done jointly with Russia and Some with China. Those are designated as our BOGUS WW III ENEMIES who have been involved with us in all of this. This is one way to know just how bogus and criminal this third world war really is going to be. This is planned murder of our citizens and the citizens of other nations they are dragging into this game/scam. These are truly INSANE PEOPLE we are dealing with here , as you will see.
We (all citizens of all nations) have no enemies except the foreign occupiers of our government who have set us up to accumulate some enemies, through their actions, in order to take us down, since America is their biggest and most dangerous obstacle to their global domination plans.
The biggest secret of mankind - The Clementine conspiracy a.k.a. Project Golden dragon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOKnRjAWjh4
published by 1967 Sander on May 3, 2013
Updated version of Extraterrestrial technology on the Moon a.k.a. "Project Golden Dragon".
Before you watch this video please read this message below the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOKnRjAWjh4&feature=player_detailpage
This project is based on a personal "theory" about a major conspiracy by the US Department of Defense, a whistle-blower who left cryptographic clues and finally complete exposure of an obfuscated object found in the Zeeman crater.
* * * This is no scientific build disclosure (yet). * * *
This presentation is the result of 14 years of research; collecting data, analyzing and making enhancements using high-end forensic image enhancement software. I needed a very long time myself to look past the strange shape. Do not expect to see the machine immediately. Your eyes and mind need time to adapt so take your time and try not to think too hard of alien technology.
You probably have an expectation
what "technology on the Moon" may look like but this machine is
unlike anything you have ever seen. In order to see it you must A) be
willing to accept the impossible, B) free your mind and C)
capable of "out of the box" thinking.
Note: I cannot promise that you will see the alien technology. All depends on your willingness to accept that there is life outside Earth atmosphere. Only users who are fully open to extraterrestrial technology and who are able to watch this video without prejudice will have a better chance to comprehend the images.
English is not my native language, so perhaps Roc Hatfield, author of 2 books "Ancient man On the Moon" and "Moon Base Cover Up?" may have a proper description of what to expect:
"Our brains are not used to seeing Alien Technology so it might take a few minutes to see it. It is clearly a vast machine. I was able to make out a number of features after looking at it for a long time. It is made of thousands of inter-locking plates, like scales on an alligator. I believe this allows it to undulate like a snake or caterpillar. The machine is so long that it needs to flex in order to set flat on the lunar surface. If it was ridged it would be like a pencil on a basketball, both ends would be in the air when the middle was on the ground. By being flexible it can wrap it's huge length around the curvature of the Moon's surface.
The machine is a mining crawler that takes in moon material at the front using a giant gantry and processes it on board in a massive on board factory. I believe the machine can fly and has been to earth in the past. Could be the dragons seen by ancient Chinese people. "It looks like a dragon from the side".
That really was a thorough description but please let me clarify something. Why do I call this machine a dragon? Because someone many centuries ago decided to called it that way. Why does it look like a dragon? Because someone many centuries ago decided that it should look that way. So is it a dragon? I do not know. If someone many centuries ago would have called it a rabbit, this machine now would be a rabbit.
So, my dear friends, it is just a name. Mr. Hatfield explained it very well why our machine looks the way it does and why it has these numeorus scales so before people start telling me that this is all fantasy watch the entire video before criticizing. Statistics show that very few really take time to watch the video. If you do not appreciate the voice, fine watch the much longer, original narrated version instead.
Watching snippets of the video will only raise eyebrows as it does not show you the full story behind it. My conclusions are based on facts but they are non-scientific build and for those who decide to watch the video entirely, these viewers will understand that I did not build my theory entirely on a single gray-scale picture. I know that there are still a lot of unanswered questions for which I do not have a satisfying answer. After all I am no scientist and as I never wrote a paper in my life (probably never will) for me this personally is already some major achievement.
From ALL your comments I will create a sequel and try to give thorough explanations but I might not have an answer for every question. I am still full of questions myself.
I have no political agenda and I am only interested in the truth.
Please note that I ban people and remove those comments that do apply to the rules of this channel. The rules are listed in ABOUT. http://www.youtube.com/user/1967sande...
Finally: I am NOT doing this for making money: My Playback-based gross revenue is $0.00*
Enjoy the presentation and spread the news! Make this disclosure to a success!
Greetz,
Sander
Note: I cannot promise that you will see the alien technology. All depends on your willingness to accept that there is life outside Earth atmosphere. Only users who are fully open to extraterrestrial technology and who are able to watch this video without prejudice will have a better chance to comprehend the images.
English is not my native language, so perhaps Roc Hatfield, author of 2 books "Ancient man On the Moon" and "Moon Base Cover Up?" may have a proper description of what to expect:
"Our brains are not used to seeing Alien Technology so it might take a few minutes to see it. It is clearly a vast machine. I was able to make out a number of features after looking at it for a long time. It is made of thousands of inter-locking plates, like scales on an alligator. I believe this allows it to undulate like a snake or caterpillar. The machine is so long that it needs to flex in order to set flat on the lunar surface. If it was ridged it would be like a pencil on a basketball, both ends would be in the air when the middle was on the ground. By being flexible it can wrap it's huge length around the curvature of the Moon's surface.
The machine is a mining crawler that takes in moon material at the front using a giant gantry and processes it on board in a massive on board factory. I believe the machine can fly and has been to earth in the past. Could be the dragons seen by ancient Chinese people. "It looks like a dragon from the side".
That really was a thorough description but please let me clarify something. Why do I call this machine a dragon? Because someone many centuries ago decided to called it that way. Why does it look like a dragon? Because someone many centuries ago decided that it should look that way. So is it a dragon? I do not know. If someone many centuries ago would have called it a rabbit, this machine now would be a rabbit.
So, my dear friends, it is just a name. Mr. Hatfield explained it very well why our machine looks the way it does and why it has these numeorus scales so before people start telling me that this is all fantasy watch the entire video before criticizing. Statistics show that very few really take time to watch the video. If you do not appreciate the voice, fine watch the much longer, original narrated version instead.
Watching snippets of the video will only raise eyebrows as it does not show you the full story behind it. My conclusions are based on facts but they are non-scientific build and for those who decide to watch the video entirely, these viewers will understand that I did not build my theory entirely on a single gray-scale picture. I know that there are still a lot of unanswered questions for which I do not have a satisfying answer. After all I am no scientist and as I never wrote a paper in my life (probably never will) for me this personally is already some major achievement.
From ALL your comments I will create a sequel and try to give thorough explanations but I might not have an answer for every question. I am still full of questions myself.
I have no political agenda and I am only interested in the truth.
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Comet Ison Inbound / Cosmic Love for Saturday
Comet Ison approaches.
Most of the available images seems to indicate it is not a comet. A fair number of astronomers have said it is like no other comet they have ever seen. The US, Canada and Mexico Governments are carrying out large scale EMP Power Outage 'simulations' over the next few days starting today. Do they know something we aren't being told?
Some Ison observers are saying the comet resembles a winged disc much like the Sumerian Nibiru description and that of the emblem crest of the Egyptian Pharaoh bloodline.
Other observers of Ison are saying that the comet is Blue just like the Blue Katchina prophecy of the Hopi Indians.
Others say it is under intelligent control.
Whatever it is, it is coming our way shortly.
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Watch the video on the science HERE.
To Your Optimal Health,
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PS: This is NOT a fast-acting process. It takes 2-3 months to see systemic body changes. Most people don't have that kind of faith in their own healing powers. But health ASSURANCE is a lot less expensive and fulfilling than health insurance:) ~ CR
Late Thursday Night Dinar Rumors and Opinions
Late
Thursday Night Dinar Rumors and Opinions
11/15/2013
LATE THURSDAY NIGHT
TNT:
LOECHIN: 11-14-13...8:03pm EST- Just chillin and watching the wind blow thru this Wide Open Window. Most of you at this point are really disappointed right now....Most of the intel people I talk to have all shared that today the window is wide open for us to hear. So as of right now I'm just chillin knowing that things have been settled and we are again waiting.
Loechin: So while we wait for a blast watch some TV or something else constructive.
birdman98 : SORRY GUYS ... LOOKS LIKE THERES MORE GOING ON THEN WHAT WE REALLY THINK ...shoot IS CRAZY ... TRUST ME I FIND OUT A LOT OF STUFF BEFORE TIME AND I GUESS THERES SOMETHING GOING ON NEGOTIATING I DONT KNOW …IF I HEAR ANYTHING ILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW
[newhope] Posted by EXOGEN on November 14, 2013 at 11:05pm DINAR RV USA DONE DINAR RV has arrived tonight 11/14 at 7:00 pm est Standby for emails for bank appointments. GOD is blessing us.
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TNT:
LOECHIN: 11-14-13...8:03pm EST- Just chillin and watching the wind blow thru this Wide Open Window. Most of you at this point are really disappointed right now....Most of the intel people I talk to have all shared that today the window is wide open for us to hear. So as of right now I'm just chillin knowing that things have been settled and we are again waiting.
Loechin: So while we wait for a blast watch some TV or something else constructive.
birdman98 : SORRY GUYS ... LOOKS LIKE THERES MORE GOING ON THEN WHAT WE REALLY THINK ...shoot IS CRAZY ... TRUST ME I FIND OUT A LOT OF STUFF BEFORE TIME AND I GUESS THERES SOMETHING GOING ON NEGOTIATING I DONT KNOW …IF I HEAR ANYTHING ILL LET YOU GUYS KNOW
[newhope] Posted by EXOGEN on November 14, 2013 at 11:05pm DINAR RV USA DONE DINAR RV has arrived tonight 11/14 at 7:00 pm est Standby for emails for bank appointments. GOD is blessing us.
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Stage2Omega
INTEL/RUMOR: .
Posted by EXOGEN on November 14, 2013 at 11:05pm
DINAR RV USA DONE
DINAR RV has arrived tonight 11/14 at 7:00 pm est
Standby for emails for bank appointments
GOD is blessing us.
INTEL/RUMOR: .
Posted by EXOGEN on November 14, 2013 at 11:05pm
DINAR RV USA DONE
DINAR RV has arrived tonight 11/14 at 7:00 pm est
Standby for emails for bank appointments
GOD is blessing us.
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GET:
cjswest] Ben Fulford November 5, 2013 Weekly geo-political news and analysis By Benjamin Fulford The ongoing global financial war is reaching its final stages. Multiple reliable sources in three continents are all now reporting that a major breakthrough in the financial logjam is imminent. We can confirm from our own sources (including MI6 and Japanese military intelligence) that a large delegation descended on Washington last week and read the riot act to the Washington D.C. establishment. They have been informed the Federal Reserve Board must be shut down immediately and the new financial system must be implemented or else the United States would be totally cut off from the world. Read more on*** .
http://2012spiritinaction.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/ben-fulford-november-5-2013/
beach] [lurker] another rumor for ya'll:crane448 Fox news had a short clip on the iminent revaluation of the dinar and 2 other currencies, wasn't there long.... [6:09:52 PM] JoAnn (Cougar13): [lurker] "apparently there have been many people including free4flight and others that have confirmed the fox news , so everyone be encouraged because tonight now sounds better than ever"
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GET:
cjswest] Ben Fulford November 5, 2013 Weekly geo-political news and analysis By Benjamin Fulford The ongoing global financial war is reaching its final stages. Multiple reliable sources in three continents are all now reporting that a major breakthrough in the financial logjam is imminent. We can confirm from our own sources (including MI6 and Japanese military intelligence) that a large delegation descended on Washington last week and read the riot act to the Washington D.C. establishment. They have been informed the Federal Reserve Board must be shut down immediately and the new financial system must be implemented or else the United States would be totally cut off from the world. Read more on*** .
http://2012spiritinaction.wordpress.com/2013/11/05/ben-fulford-november-5-2013/
beach] [lurker] another rumor for ya'll:crane448 Fox news had a short clip on the iminent revaluation of the dinar and 2 other currencies, wasn't there long.... [6:09:52 PM] JoAnn (Cougar13): [lurker] "apparently there have been many people including free4flight and others that have confirmed the fox news , so everyone be encouraged because tonight now sounds better than ever"
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Nesara BolgSpot: John MacHaffie
Important Intel Updates
I am getting intel now hot and heavy. Very concerned as to what intel info may interfere with operations and security of our White Knights. "Loose Lips Sink Ships!" as they say in the Navy. I am revealing only the tip of the intel ice berg at this time.
Ongoing now are:
1) Dinar RV Global Reset supposedly happened at 7:00 pm est on 11/14/2013. This is still not confirmed.
2) We "May" be able to do exchanges at the banks this weekend.
3) Toll Free numbers per exchange appointments have not been distributed yet still waiting.
VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS - MORE TO FOLLOW
4) NESARA Law was enacted this morning 11/15/2013 at 1:30 am reno time
5) Gold Back Currency and Basil III banking was enacted
6) Republic was enacted
7) Republic has been financed and treasury in place
Arrests of the 'Bad Hombres' is ongoing. Over 30,000 in the USA in recent days and still in progress. This is a Global Event and arrest activities are on going worldwide.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND MORE DETAILED INFO ARE FORTHCOMING INCLUDING VIDEOS OF THE ARRESTS.
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/late-thursday-night-dinar-rumors-and-opinions.html
Important Intel Updates
I am getting intel now hot and heavy. Very concerned as to what intel info may interfere with operations and security of our White Knights. "Loose Lips Sink Ships!" as they say in the Navy. I am revealing only the tip of the intel ice berg at this time.
Ongoing now are:
1) Dinar RV Global Reset supposedly happened at 7:00 pm est on 11/14/2013. This is still not confirmed.
2) We "May" be able to do exchanges at the banks this weekend.
3) Toll Free numbers per exchange appointments have not been distributed yet still waiting.
VERY IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENTS - MORE TO FOLLOW
4) NESARA Law was enacted this morning 11/15/2013 at 1:30 am reno time
5) Gold Back Currency and Basil III banking was enacted
6) Republic was enacted
7) Republic has been financed and treasury in place
Arrests of the 'Bad Hombres' is ongoing. Over 30,000 in the USA in recent days and still in progress. This is a Global Event and arrest activities are on going worldwide.
ANNOUNCEMENTS AND MORE DETAILED INFO ARE FORTHCOMING INCLUDING VIDEOS OF THE ARRESTS.
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/late-thursday-night-dinar-rumors-and-opinions.html
EXOGEN: Fox news had a short clip on the imminent revaluation of the dinar and 2 other currencies, wasn't there long....
Really Late Thursday Night TNT Tony Blast
Really
Late Thursday Night TNT Tony Blast
11/15/2013
Thursday Night Update......11/14/13
Good evening everyone. First I want you to know that I absolutely hate doing these late night blast. I prefer to give info out on the calls.
The RV activation was scheduled for today, the time was set first for late last night and then moved to the early morning. In the morning, the people that need to know were informed that the RV would go live by the close of business today.
Guess what, that didn't happen either. We scrambled for hours to try to find out why we didn't have an RV by 7pm (the latest time it was to be activated) and about 9:45pm est we finally got our answer.
It seems that the correct timing and/or procedures were not excuted. Don't worry, the process continues and corrections are being made. They are trying to fix things now, but they need the help of some of the team that is still in Iraq.
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Good evening everyone. First I want you to know that I absolutely hate doing these late night blast. I prefer to give info out on the calls.
The RV activation was scheduled for today, the time was set first for late last night and then moved to the early morning. In the morning, the people that need to know were informed that the RV would go live by the close of business today.
Guess what, that didn't happen either. We scrambled for hours to try to find out why we didn't have an RV by 7pm (the latest time it was to be activated) and about 9:45pm est we finally got our answer.
It seems that the correct timing and/or procedures were not excuted. Don't worry, the process continues and corrections are being made. They are trying to fix things now, but they need the help of some of the team that is still in Iraq.
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If the RV is not announced by the time we are to
do our call, I will explain everything and give you the new projection time.
I'm going to bed and to sleep, I suggest you do the same. If they work it out tonight, you will want to be fresh and alert so that you don't miscount.
Things will look better tomorrow and again, I will explain on the call. It is not a problem, it will be processed properly and in half the time.
TNTDinar
11/14/13
Tony
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/really-late-thursday-night-tnt-tony-blast.html
I'm going to bed and to sleep, I suggest you do the same. If they work it out tonight, you will want to be fresh and alert so that you don't miscount.
Things will look better tomorrow and again, I will explain on the call. It is not a problem, it will be processed properly and in half the time.
TNTDinar
11/14/13
Tony
http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/really-late-thursday-night-tnt-tony-blast.html
Med & Dinar Speculator Member Chat
Med
& Dinar Speculator Member Chat
11/14/2013
ksdunlap (9:57
PM): for anyone who missed Hawks earlier post, here it is .. The
Hawk says(5:09 PM):
Someone who goes by the name of "Colonel", has been offering $7.00 for each Dinar $5,000 x 7.00 etc.
Well people did meet him in TX and gave him their Dinars and he said to check with their bank because he wired the money to them. He then disappeared and the people that gave him the Dinars were taken. This information was reported by people calling into Dinar Trade to warn others of the Scam
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Someone who goes by the name of "Colonel", has been offering $7.00 for each Dinar $5,000 x 7.00 etc.
Well people did meet him in TX and gave him their Dinars and he said to check with their bank because he wired the money to them. He then disappeared and the people that gave him the Dinars were taken. This information was reported by people calling into Dinar Trade to warn others of the Scam
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Vinnie iraqdinarcenter@aol.com
ksdunlap (9:58 PM): So please BEWARE of the scams going around. We have all been in this way to long for this to happen to any one of us.
med (10:05 PM): HELLO DS I WANTED TO STOP IN AND SAY HELLO HAVING TROUBLE WITH MY RIGHT FOOT IT IS A ROCK
ksdunlap: Good evening Med
med: HI KSD I WANT TO
COMMENT ON THAT POST OF YOURS IT WAS
EXCELLENT OK BUT HERE IS ONE THING
WE THIS SITE HAVE REPORTED THIS KIND OF CRAP WITH HELP
FROM HAWKE
WHEN I GOT WIND OF IT AND WE HAVE OVER AND OVER TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THIS NO IDIOT IS GOING TO PAY 7 BUCKS FOR ONE DINAR
ksdunlap: very true
med: BUT LIKE THEY SAY THERE IS ALWAYS ONE BORN EVERY MINUTE
THEY NEED TO STOP READING THE BS FROM THOSE SITES THAT CLAIM ALL THE PROMISES AND INTEL NOBODY AND I MEAN NOONE WAS AS CLOSE TO THE SITUATION THAN WE WERE
ksdunlap: i agree 100%
med: WITH CONTACTS AT EVERY CENTRAL BANK EXCEPT IRAQ WE WERE IN WASHINGTON MEETING WITH A REP TO GET THE SCOOP TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS FACT OR FICTION
WHEN I GOT WIND OF IT AND WE HAVE OVER AND OVER TRIED TO MAKE PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN LIKE THIS NO IDIOT IS GOING TO PAY 7 BUCKS FOR ONE DINAR
ksdunlap: very true
med: BUT LIKE THEY SAY THERE IS ALWAYS ONE BORN EVERY MINUTE
THEY NEED TO STOP READING THE BS FROM THOSE SITES THAT CLAIM ALL THE PROMISES AND INTEL NOBODY AND I MEAN NOONE WAS AS CLOSE TO THE SITUATION THAN WE WERE
ksdunlap: i agree 100%
med: WITH CONTACTS AT EVERY CENTRAL BANK EXCEPT IRAQ WE WERE IN WASHINGTON MEETING WITH A REP TO GET THE SCOOP TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT IS FACT OR FICTION
THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS
THIS RIGHT NOW THEY JUST DONT OR CANT DO IT
THEY HAVE ELECTIONS COMING NOW ALL IS READY I GIVE THEM THAT
BUT WE HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS AS IN STABILITY IN IRAQ
AND I JUST READ BARZANI SAYING IT CAN BE EVEN WORSE ALL WE CAN DO IS NOT GET UPSET STAY THE COURSE AND REMEMBER WE DO THINGS IN A WESTERN MENTALITY WHICH IN NO WAY IS THE WAY THEY DO THINGS OR LOOK AT THINGS
ksdunlap: true
med: NOW IT IS GOING TO BE A TIGHT AND I MEAN *** TIGHT SQUEEZE TO GET THIS IN RIGHT AFTER ELECTIONS
ksdunlap: yes i did lol
med: LOL NOW I AM NOT DISCOURAGING AT ALL JUST WE NEED TO JUST WEATHER THE STORMS CUZ WE SURELY CANT DO A THING TO DIVERT THEM
ksdunlap: right
med: NOW MOST OF US NOW THE SEVERAL THOUSAND THAT LOG IN DAILY WE ARE DIE HARDS NOT CONSUMED BUT HAVE MATURED ALLOT ON HOW WE LOOK AND HANDLE THIS
ksdunlap: yes we have
med: I AM NOT SURE I AM DOING A PEP TALK OR JUST GIVING A SMALL REALITY CHECK SADR REALLY WAS TICKED THAT MALIKI CAME TO OBAMA ACTUALLY THE U.S. AND ASKED FOR HELP
I READ AND HE SAID THAT HE WOULD IN NO WAY BACK MALIKI FOR NUMBER 3 AND HE LISTEDABOUT EVERYTHING FROM KICKBACKS CORRUPTION MURDER THAT HE IS GUILTY OF
AND YOU LOOK AT HIM HE LOOKS MORE MENTALLY CHALLENGED THAN A WORLD LEADER
THE GUY HAS A FORHEAD YOU COULD BOUNCE A BASKETBALL OFF
ksdunlap: lol
med: WELL KSD I HAVE TO GET MY FOOT UP IT IS LIKE A ROCK AND PURPLE FOR SOME REASON I CAN BARLEY MOVE IT I WILL TRY THE MORNING OK
ksdunlap: thank you for coming on .. it was nice seeing & talking to you .. please take care of u'rself
med: TAKE CARE TY I AM TRYING
ksdunlap: happy to see you anytime
med: IT IS A MESS THOUGH I KNOW GN
ksdunlap: goodnight (((hugs)))
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THEY HAVE ELECTIONS COMING NOW ALL IS READY I GIVE THEM THAT
BUT WE HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY NO PROGRESS AS IN STABILITY IN IRAQ
AND I JUST READ BARZANI SAYING IT CAN BE EVEN WORSE ALL WE CAN DO IS NOT GET UPSET STAY THE COURSE AND REMEMBER WE DO THINGS IN A WESTERN MENTALITY WHICH IN NO WAY IS THE WAY THEY DO THINGS OR LOOK AT THINGS
ksdunlap: true
med: NOW IT IS GOING TO BE A TIGHT AND I MEAN *** TIGHT SQUEEZE TO GET THIS IN RIGHT AFTER ELECTIONS
ksdunlap: yes i did lol
med: LOL NOW I AM NOT DISCOURAGING AT ALL JUST WE NEED TO JUST WEATHER THE STORMS CUZ WE SURELY CANT DO A THING TO DIVERT THEM
ksdunlap: right
med: NOW MOST OF US NOW THE SEVERAL THOUSAND THAT LOG IN DAILY WE ARE DIE HARDS NOT CONSUMED BUT HAVE MATURED ALLOT ON HOW WE LOOK AND HANDLE THIS
ksdunlap: yes we have
med: I AM NOT SURE I AM DOING A PEP TALK OR JUST GIVING A SMALL REALITY CHECK SADR REALLY WAS TICKED THAT MALIKI CAME TO OBAMA ACTUALLY THE U.S. AND ASKED FOR HELP
I READ AND HE SAID THAT HE WOULD IN NO WAY BACK MALIKI FOR NUMBER 3 AND HE LISTEDABOUT EVERYTHING FROM KICKBACKS CORRUPTION MURDER THAT HE IS GUILTY OF
AND YOU LOOK AT HIM HE LOOKS MORE MENTALLY CHALLENGED THAN A WORLD LEADER
THE GUY HAS A FORHEAD YOU COULD BOUNCE A BASKETBALL OFF
ksdunlap: lol
med: WELL KSD I HAVE TO GET MY FOOT UP IT IS LIKE A ROCK AND PURPLE FOR SOME REASON I CAN BARLEY MOVE IT I WILL TRY THE MORNING OK
ksdunlap: thank you for coming on .. it was nice seeing & talking to you .. please take care of u'rself
med: TAKE CARE TY I AM TRYING
ksdunlap: happy to see you anytime
med: IT IS A MESS THOUGH I KNOW GN
ksdunlap: goodnight (((hugs)))
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