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** Iraqi dinar, recently being said ** / Okie_Oil_Man
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Date: Monday, 18-Nov-2013 03:56:34
Date: Monday, 18-Nov-2013 03:56:34
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Monday, November 18, 2013
** Iraqi dinar, recently being said ** / Okie_Oil_Man
GREAT NEWS:
Subject: GREAT NEWS
GREAT NEWS:
The CIA controlled
EVERGREEN AIRLINES is reportedly going out of business as of November 29, 2013.
This is the airline responsible for salting our skies with aluminum and
other harmful chemicals called CHEM TRAILS. These CHEM TRAILS are
believed to be responsible for the upswing of cancer and lung disease here in
the United States and around the world.
Speculation is that the
USG is finally running out of funny money? Couldn't happen to a nicer lot!
Marine's Heartwrenching Letter To My CO
CGI's Lymerick: Marine's Heartwrenching Letter To My CO
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If MORE service men and women take this stance, perhaps We have a chance to take Our Country back!! We must support and encourage those who do! Lymerick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Submitted by bronko on Thu, 11/14/2013 - 19:42 *To the DP: Thanks to many on here who unknowingly have helped persuade me in this direction. I plan on presenting the following letter outlining my thoughts and convictions to my CO in the coming days and would appreciate any feedback you may have on it. Anything I should change/delete/add? Thanks* To Whom It May Concern: As a disclaimer, I wish to inform the reader that at this point, I have in no way made any decisions regarding my career as a Marine. This is simply to formulate my thoughts, create a discussion, and possibly consider future alternatives to my current path in the Marine Corps. It is somehow fitting (ironic?) that I begin writing this on the 238th Marine Corps birthday and continue it throughout Veteran’s Day and the entire month blindly honoring veterans. I remember October 13, 2004 like it was yesterday. I remember sitting tall at the recruiter’s office as I signed into the Delayed Entry Program having recently convinced my parents that it was a good idea. I was excited to serve my country. I remember July 5, 2005 like it was yesterday. I remember the formal swearing in ceremony at the MEPS station where I gave the famous oath that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. I remember saying, “So help me God,” turning around, and seeing tears flowing down my mother’s face and a huge smile on my father’s face. I remember spending those last moments with my girlfriend (now wife) and my parents. I remember the goodbyes as I left for 13 weeks of basic training. I remember sitting on the plane studying rank structure so I would be as prepared as possible. I remember September 29, 2005 like it was yesterday. I remember as Drill Instructor SSgt Baehr marched in front of me and handed me my Eagle, Globe, and Anchor, signifying that I was officially a United States Marine. I remember trying my best to hold back tears, and although I failed, I did better than some. I remember seeing my family for the first time in 13 weeks. I was proud. I was a Marine. I was a warrior. I was a defender of the nation. Since that time, my love for the Marine Corps grew immensely. I spent hours on my uniform preparing for inspections. I studied my knowledge and was one of the few Marines I knew that legitimately took the knowledge test and did well. I was promoted quickly and I would like to think that I was respected as a Marine. I loved telling others I was a Marine and would take every opportunity to put myself into a position to be thanked for my service. Unfortunately, my increasing love for the Marine Corps had a negative affect on my morality. I recall a conversation with a friend that I hadn’t seen for awhile in which he asked me what I would still like to do in the Corps. I replied to him that I was disappointed that I hadn’t killed anyone yet. …disappointed that I hadn’t killed anyone…. Looking back, I question how I could have possibly been so dark. How had my humanity dropped to the level that I had a life goal of ending another human’s life? I guess its just part of the culture. Killing is celebrated in the Marine Corps and referred to as “getting some.” Running cadences often refer to killing in lighthearted and humorous (to them) ways. The word “kill” can replace a multitude of words in a Marine’s vocabulary without batting an eye towards its implications. General Mattis claimed that it’s “a hell of a lot of fun to shoot them. Actually, it’s a lot of fun to fight. You know, it’s a hell of a hoot. It’s fun to shoot some people.” Indeed, killing is part of the culture, and understandably so, but I am no longer part of that culture. The only morally justified killing is in self-defense. The big lie in the military is that we are used for “defending our freedoms.” Exactly what freedoms were North Korea and Vietnam threatening? Iraq? Afghanistan? Libya? Yemen? Pakistan? Here’s a better question: What exactly did nearly 3.5 million (since WWII – the last congressionally declared war) service members die for? The only freedoms that have been lost have come from the hands of our own government. The Patriot Act, NDAA, our unlimited and secret surveillance state, our ever growing police state, have all been put in place by our own government in the name of “National Security” against the boogieman “terrorists.” I gave an oath to support and defend the Constitution, while our own government that I am employed by is the one that is attacking it. I joined in order to “defend freedoms,” but I have become aware that I am doing no such thing. I am being used as a pawn in unconstitutional, inhumane, and immoral “wars” that I believe to be based solely around money. (1Timothy 6:10 – “For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil…) Major General Smedley Butler is often honored in the Marine Corps for his heroic actions, which earned him two Medals of Honor. Unsurprisingly, I failed to see his book “War is a Racket” on the Commandant’s reading list, and no one ever mentions his life after retirement. Six quotes from “War is a Racket:” “War is a racket. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.” “My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders of the higher-ups. This is typical with everyone in the military.” “There are only two things we should fight for. One is the defense of our homes and the other is the Bill of Rights. War for any other reason is simply a racket.” “I spent 33 years and 4 months in active military service…And during that period I spent most of my time as a high-class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers.” “Our boys were sent off to die with beautiful ideals painted in front of them. No one told them that dollars and cents were the real reason they were marching off to kill and die.” “Modern wars are maneuvered and engineered into existence in order to generate obscene profits for behind-the-scenes corporate manipulators whose sons and daughters never serve or die in those wars.” After learning these things and researching for myself the purpose of war, the damage of war, and the lies that surround war entirely, I find it impossible to remain proud that I am part of the military system. “Thank you for your service.” These words mean absolutely nothing to me, because I know that the civilian that just told me that believes the lie that America would be doomed without this country being the policemen of the world. I no longer believe this lie. If history is going to speak kindly regarding America, the military must be used for defense only. “Happy Veteran’s Day.” Again, these words are worthless to me and have been said far too often. What are we celebrating again? Those who served? In order for one to serve, one must be served, so who is the recipient of our service. Is it the American citizens, who want to live quiet and peaceful lives, (1 Timothy 2:2 – “for kings and all who are in high positions, that we may lead a peaceful and quiet life, godly and dignified in every way.”) or is it for military contractors and politicians in their endeavor for greedy gain. I would argue that it is the latter. So thank you veterans for fighting and putting your life on the line for governmental corruption. As former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger admitted, “Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy.” I am quite aware that this may foster the belief that I am unpatriotic or hate my country. I assure you that this cannot be further from the truth, depending on your definition of patriotism. Ron Paul wrote in his book Liberty Defined that “there was a time when a willingness to criticize one’s own government when it was wrong was the very definition of patriotism.” In the military, under the UCMJ, I am unable to do this. My free speech, my ability to criticize, has been made unlawful. “You’re not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can’t face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it.” – Malcom X I also understand that this may cause you to think I am a coward. A coward hides behind others’ transgressions and blames higher ups. “I was just following orders” are the words of a coward, one who will not take responsibility for his own actions. It is a glorified version of the Milgram Experiment – “I am not responsible because someone told me to do it.” Cowardly. Some may say that they are not just following orders, and they still believe in the military system and our current justification for war. That is on them. As a human, and as a Christian who has finally understood that Americans are not God’s chosen people and do not have his eternal blessing to control the entire world, I must speak up about my personal convictions. Laurence Vance, in his book “War, Christianity, and the State: Essays on the follies of Christian Militarism,” begins with this: “If there is any group of people that should be opposed to war, torture, militarism, and the warfare state with its suppression of civil liberties, imperial presidency, government propaganda, and interventionist foreign policy it is Christians, and especially conservative, evangelical, and fundamentalist Christians who claim to strictly follow the dictates of Scripture and worship the Prince of Peace.” As a believer of Christ and his teaching, I have no place in the Marine Corps. Because of these personal and internal convictions that I have presented (along with many others), I am consciously forced to find my way out of the Marine Corps in any feasible manner. I am not 100% clear on my options, which is why I have presented this letter to discuss those options. This letter does not come easily. I am internally torn due to potential consequences and hardships, but my conviction remains steadfast and I know this is what I must do. http://www.dailypaul.com/305389/lettter-to-my-co |
Message from Montague Keen - November 17, 2013
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Message from Montague Keen - November 17, 2013
  Message from Montague Keen - November 17, 2013 SIT DOWN BEFORE FACT LIKE AS A LITTLE CHILD, AND BE PREPARED TO GIVE UP EVERY PRECONCEIVED NOTION. FOLLOW HUMBLY WHEREVER AND TO WHATEVER ABYSSES NATURE LEADS, OR YOU SHALL LEARN NOTHING. T H Huxley You are ready now to see clearly the control grid that had enclosed your minds and kept you as slaves. Never fear the truth. It is now most important that you give time and effort to exploring it. “The matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around. What do you see? Businessmen, Teachers, Lawyers, Carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system, and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. (told the truth). And many of them as so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." Morpheus, The Matrix. (Warner Bros. Pictures, 1999.) The parasitical elite, Illuminati, never expected mankind to awaken and question their motives and their plans to destroy your planet and those who rightfully occupy it. It is time for those who are ready to explore the situation to read and fully digest "THE SECRET COVENANT". There, it is all clearly stated. You can see that they have carried out their plans to the detriment of humanity. Do you wish this to continue? To condemn future generations to the tyranny that these people have imposed on you? Read carefully the line: "BUT IF THEY EVER FIND OUT THAT THEY ARE OUR EQUAL, WE SHALL PERISH THEN. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW." Yes, my friends, the truth is sometimes stranger than fiction. But in order to release yourselves from this tyranny, you have to look with eyes wide open at what was hidden from you. I was scratching the surface of all this before I passed to spirit. I had to ask Veronica to continue to explore the dark realms of the matrix and to assist you all to see for yourselves how badly you have been used. There is enough information out there. Good people around your world are sharing their findings with you. You are coming together and you are removing the false barriers of the past. You are children of the light, and your lights are joining together as one great light, and that, my friends, will extinguish every last vestige of darkness. Many of you are being contacted by friendly beings from other planets who wish to make friends with you and work with you when they arrive on Earth. This is good. It is preparing you for what is to come. This is The End Game. How quickly it ends is entirely in your hands. You are the light and you are in control. Do not allow fear to deter you. The cabal will expose you to fearful situations which are all designed to hold you in its control. You must make a conscious decision to stand for truth and justice for all humanity. Do not do anything that harms your fellow beings in any way. Protect them as you would wish them to protect you. You may feel that I am asking a lot of you, but if you could see the full picture, as we in spirit can, you would quickly see that the real power is in your hands and it is time to use it. The next few months could change everything in your world for the better. Are you up for this challenge? The challenge is not just for men. Women must take their just place as equals. There must be balance for this to succeed . . . and succeed it will ! How many times do I need to remind you to go back to Ireland. You will find all the answers there. "Ireland is the key that will unlock everything". Ireland is ready to give up her secrets. This is why you see the banks exerting their power in an attempt to prevent this. It is all so obvious to the observer. Every time Ireland steps forward, the Vatican, Crown, or Banks, coming rushing in with all guns blazing, to crush them yet again. They survived the worst holocaust ever visited on mankind which the Vatican oversaw. Ireland rose once more from the ashes. Its people strived to create better lives for their children, only to be used and abused over and over again. Through their music they remember "the bad times". They sing: "FORGOTTEN IS THE RACE THAT NO ONE KNOWS" or should I say, no one is allowed to know ! I loved to go to Ireland. I loved the energy. The genuine spirituality of its people has to be experienced to be understood. It is like no other. Do not look on the cabal with anger or hate; that will only diminish you as a person of light. Remember . . . they are in fear of you. You are the many, they are the few. Send them love, so much love that it will extinguish the darkness that they thrive on. They are to be pitied. Their great plans have come to nothing, and they are now at your mercy (though they continue to pretend otherwise). Do not be fooled by their arrogance. They are finished. Go forward with dignity and control, as they are now being blocked and prevented from carrying out many of their dastardly deeds. They do not have control anymore. It is time for good people to come together to discuss how to go forward to create a world of peace and justice. The removal of all weapons of destruction has to be handled by those who are qualified to do so. Such weapons will never again be needed. You know in your souls that there is something terribly wrong with the way your world operates. "ONCE HE EMBARKS ON THE PATH OF DISCOVERY TO FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS, THERE IS NO GOING BACK ON HIS QUEST. The implication here is that once we drink of the stream of knowledge, OUR LIVES CAN NEVER BE THE SAME AGAIN; our worldview changes forever and our lives become an everlasting adventure." IRELAND - Land of the Pharaohs. (Andrew Power) I could not have put it better myself. That says it all. Do give it some thought. It is all opening up before you. Enjoy the adventure of a lifetime. My dear, we assist and guide all who ask for help. We are happy to do so. Everything is opening up and being exposed. Nothing can remain hidden anymore. Do try to get a break, now and again. It is too much to cope with, seven days a week. It is all coming together just as we planned. Know that you are loved and cherished. Your adoring, Monty. Source: http://montaguekeen.com |
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Sunday, November 17, 2013
the untold secrets of the CIA and Lucifer
the untold secrets of the CIA and Lucifer
Uploaded on Jan 15, 2012
this movie documents the
CIA and NsAs Involvement in occultic activities, including actual involvement
in cults... including starting satanic churches, uncovers project MKUltra,
which is the cias mind control experiments...viewer discression advised, what
these people do is atrocious, and very sickening so you have been warned! and
those of you who so hate the music, this was one of my first movies i ever
made, and admittedly the music is too loud, i have tried to edit this on
youtube which i am unable to do (for whatever reason) so i am
uploading a new one without music, if you would prefer go to my youtube channel
and watch that one, please stop arguing with me, and others about the simple
subject of music, its pointless and for what its worth i apoligize
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xP8Vua7-Og
Sunday Afternoon Dinar Chatter
11/17/2013
TNT:
Mrs. Biggo: TONY POPPED INTO CHAT!! 11/17/13
12:45pmEST:TNTDinar wrote Nov 17th @09:45am: Good morning everyone. I am just in here looking around. There is no update at this time. I am still waiting to talk to my sources.
P.S. EDITED BY TONY........I am still hearing this should be over this weekend and we should be at the bank sometime tomorrow.
[tigger1] so we have tony saying be at bank tomorrow lochen says tomorrow and now mt goat says tomorrow and i think okie is on the same page
[trigger] Spguru 9:18 am Chat 11/17/13 from spguru @ 9:18am today: Let me say. I can't believe my bank is open on Sunday. That's all I can say and you can for sure repeat that.
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Read More Link on Right
Mrs. Biggo: TONY POPPED INTO CHAT!! 11/17/13
12:45pmEST:TNTDinar wrote Nov 17th @09:45am: Good morning everyone. I am just in here looking around. There is no update at this time. I am still waiting to talk to my sources.
P.S. EDITED BY TONY........I am still hearing this should be over this weekend and we should be at the bank sometime tomorrow.
[tigger1] so we have tony saying be at bank tomorrow lochen says tomorrow and now mt goat says tomorrow and i think okie is on the same page
[trigger] Spguru 9:18 am Chat 11/17/13 from spguru @ 9:18am today: Let me say. I can't believe my bank is open on Sunday. That's all I can say and you can for sure repeat that.
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Read More Link on Right
sailman] on Friday my SCOTIA contact was VERY HAPPY and sid she
had finally read the info we need -- she herself is hoping for the next few
days to be very positive for us here in Canada--- but has no idea about any
different rate other than what will be shown on the CBI
[trcgroup] sailman hi there...that's great news...do you know for a fact if they will be accept the dinar and the dong
[sailman] trcgroup she assumes that the 'downtown' office as well as the Private Client GRoup will be the ones handling these values of currency -- even her branch cannot handle these amounts and she is in a VERY affluent area
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LOECHIN LIVE : Hey guys, just wanted to drop you guys an update....Hopeful that the next hours will bring us to an end. As of right now here is where I believe we are. As you already know CL is gone from Iraq and when she went there it was to complete the process and hold M's feet to the fire which she in fact did.
She said she would not leave Iraq until the RV was finished, did you get that FINISHED. The IMF gave the UST the green light to do their test which they have done and the results were " All Is Well" As of this moment all test's are over and we still have the green light.
There is nothing else to be signed. All the test are over, even the local bank's are ready for you to come and visit. I would expect seeing a email with 800's within the next several hours.... Let's hope and pray for that. The rates are still really high and I mean nose bleed section high.
You will as Tony has told us sign an NDA to cover all currencies, so keep quiet after the fact. Now if Okie will please land the plane..... I can finally get on with my life. Never met or talked to Okie but hope I get to someday soon.....Guys we really are THERE so just make certain that all your Stuff is in order Please so you can keep you sanity lol when the Go Ahead comes to us.
[loechin] Guys right now the info is great, but would you please take a minute and say a prayer for people in the mid-west for all the storms. I have many friends out there
[gnosis] There was an effort to go live at 7am GMT recently. Not that this is the time but just putting it out there. Also Birdman had that time.
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StraightTalkChat:
[30MDINAR] FAMILY... REMEMBER NOT TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL THE HOPIUM AND HYPE. WE HAVE ALL BEEN HERE MANY TMES BEFORE, ONLY TO BE LET DOWN AND DISSAPOINTED WITH NO RV. I AM HEARING NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE WILL SEE AN RV TODAY. IT SIMPLY MEANS IT IS COMING AND IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. I URGE YOU TO STAY GROUNDED AND DO NOT ALLOW THOSE WHO LIKE TO CALL THE RV EVERY DAY TO CAUSE YOU TO GET YOURSELF ALL WORKED UP YET AGAIN. STAY CALM AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO REJOICE AND THANK THE LORD FOR OUR BLESSING.
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I4U:
[wileymorgan] okay here is what I will say this morning, yes there will be multiple 800# for you to call and make an appt. make sure you call the right one if your intentions are to get the group rate
[wileymorgan] hearing that there is a concerted effort to keep the dinar holders confused as to what the truth really is so the put out multiple streams of info to keep everyone looking except for where they want us too
[redhead11] wileymorgan - they are being very successful
[wileymorgan] some are still watching CBI, others from what thier source is telling this is gospel and undisputable, and then there is the rest, which one is correct - no one truly knows
[jamajacks] IMO Iraq oversold the Dinar and is and has been in process of getting much of it back through auctions and at banks for USD. When enough is retrieved we shall see the RV.
[wileymorgan] no we are being told that their is still much to get acomplished and that we could be looking at sometime just before the end of the 1st quarter in 2014...
[wileymorgan] this does not mean it cannot happen before then only what they are preparing us for if things do not get done.
[wileymorgan] I knew it what cause the room confusion...this is why those that truly have information simply do not post anymore
[thudz04] wileymorgan I appreciate your insight, wisdom, and ability to tell what you believe is actually happening and not just what we as Dinarians want to hear. Do you believe in the global reset theory and Iraq being the lynch pin to the roll out? Thank you.
[wileymorgan] thudz04 many are still wondering why we are not done, and that is coming from agencies that are supposed to be in the know...
[wileymorgan] we all want it sooner rather than later. But no amount of bashing one another will bring us any closer to the facts of the matter. Bank is ready just as soon as they tell us we are good to go and they have their clearances to begin the process
[bcrt1] wileymorgan I can't remember if you stated that the notification email would now come from WF or will it come from KC?
[wileymorgan] KCmana sent via WF
[wileymorgan] we use freeware and in doing so we are limited in the amount of mail we can send in bulk at a time without being a spammer. We will use the software of the bank to help get out to all at the same time
[drl] wileymorgan Is there a time fram in which they would like to see all dinarians complete the exchange?
[wileymorgan] drl it will take how ever long it takes. In the past it was said that when you make your appt it could take up to a week to get you. There are many of us and we need to be cordial and respectful. for those who cannot we simply ask them to just go someplace else and not ruin it for the others
[wileymorgan] the dinar investment in kind of like a colonscopy, you want to know but do not want to go through the process
[sonnayhwh] wileymorgan If only we could have been knocked out during this process . . . grin
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KTFA:
DELTA » November 17th, 2013, 1:50 pm •
JUST IN FROM IRAQIA TV:
CBI DENIES DELETING THREE ZEROS OF 2014
DELTA
LINK
by mryantodd » November 17th, 2013, 2:38 pm
This could mean just about anything IMO:
1. deleting zeroes will occur before 2014
2. deleting zeroes will occur after 2014
3. this is just smoke designed to confuse and throw doubt on a possible RV
4. this is similar to what has happened in the past where a government vehemently denies an RV immediately preceding the RV
5. this is just another mistranslated article that is meaningless
6. I don't have a clue what is going on in Iraq and continue to demonstrate my ignorance in a public forum
Personally, I am going with #6. I should follow my own advice and remain silent so people will only guess that I am ignorant instead of opening my mouth and removing all doubt...
Society » November 17th, 2013, 2:32 pm
"...stressing that this timing is Matrouh now...."
DELTA......will you translate "Matrouh"???
Delta: PROPOSED
DELTA
[trcgroup] sailman hi there...that's great news...do you know for a fact if they will be accept the dinar and the dong
[sailman] trcgroup she assumes that the 'downtown' office as well as the Private Client GRoup will be the ones handling these values of currency -- even her branch cannot handle these amounts and she is in a VERY affluent area
**********
LOECHIN LIVE : Hey guys, just wanted to drop you guys an update....Hopeful that the next hours will bring us to an end. As of right now here is where I believe we are. As you already know CL is gone from Iraq and when she went there it was to complete the process and hold M's feet to the fire which she in fact did.
She said she would not leave Iraq until the RV was finished, did you get that FINISHED. The IMF gave the UST the green light to do their test which they have done and the results were " All Is Well" As of this moment all test's are over and we still have the green light.
There is nothing else to be signed. All the test are over, even the local bank's are ready for you to come and visit. I would expect seeing a email with 800's within the next several hours.... Let's hope and pray for that. The rates are still really high and I mean nose bleed section high.
You will as Tony has told us sign an NDA to cover all currencies, so keep quiet after the fact. Now if Okie will please land the plane..... I can finally get on with my life. Never met or talked to Okie but hope I get to someday soon.....Guys we really are THERE so just make certain that all your Stuff is in order Please so you can keep you sanity lol when the Go Ahead comes to us.
[loechin] Guys right now the info is great, but would you please take a minute and say a prayer for people in the mid-west for all the storms. I have many friends out there
[gnosis] There was an effort to go live at 7am GMT recently. Not that this is the time but just putting it out there. Also Birdman had that time.
**********************
StraightTalkChat:
[30MDINAR] FAMILY... REMEMBER NOT TO ALLOW YOURSELF TO GET CAUGHT UP IN ALL THE HOPIUM AND HYPE. WE HAVE ALL BEEN HERE MANY TMES BEFORE, ONLY TO BE LET DOWN AND DISSAPOINTED WITH NO RV. I AM HEARING NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN WE WILL SEE AN RV TODAY. IT SIMPLY MEANS IT IS COMING AND IT CAN HAPPEN AT ANY TIME. I URGE YOU TO STAY GROUNDED AND DO NOT ALLOW THOSE WHO LIKE TO CALL THE RV EVERY DAY TO CAUSE YOU TO GET YOURSELF ALL WORKED UP YET AGAIN. STAY CALM AND I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S TIME TO REJOICE AND THANK THE LORD FOR OUR BLESSING.
************
I4U:
[wileymorgan] okay here is what I will say this morning, yes there will be multiple 800# for you to call and make an appt. make sure you call the right one if your intentions are to get the group rate
[wileymorgan] hearing that there is a concerted effort to keep the dinar holders confused as to what the truth really is so the put out multiple streams of info to keep everyone looking except for where they want us too
[redhead11] wileymorgan - they are being very successful
[wileymorgan] some are still watching CBI, others from what thier source is telling this is gospel and undisputable, and then there is the rest, which one is correct - no one truly knows
[jamajacks] IMO Iraq oversold the Dinar and is and has been in process of getting much of it back through auctions and at banks for USD. When enough is retrieved we shall see the RV.
[wileymorgan] no we are being told that their is still much to get acomplished and that we could be looking at sometime just before the end of the 1st quarter in 2014...
[wileymorgan] this does not mean it cannot happen before then only what they are preparing us for if things do not get done.
[wileymorgan] I knew it what cause the room confusion...this is why those that truly have information simply do not post anymore
[thudz04] wileymorgan I appreciate your insight, wisdom, and ability to tell what you believe is actually happening and not just what we as Dinarians want to hear. Do you believe in the global reset theory and Iraq being the lynch pin to the roll out? Thank you.
[wileymorgan] thudz04 many are still wondering why we are not done, and that is coming from agencies that are supposed to be in the know...
[wileymorgan] we all want it sooner rather than later. But no amount of bashing one another will bring us any closer to the facts of the matter. Bank is ready just as soon as they tell us we are good to go and they have their clearances to begin the process
[bcrt1] wileymorgan I can't remember if you stated that the notification email would now come from WF or will it come from KC?
[wileymorgan] KCmana sent via WF
[wileymorgan] we use freeware and in doing so we are limited in the amount of mail we can send in bulk at a time without being a spammer. We will use the software of the bank to help get out to all at the same time
[drl] wileymorgan Is there a time fram in which they would like to see all dinarians complete the exchange?
[wileymorgan] drl it will take how ever long it takes. In the past it was said that when you make your appt it could take up to a week to get you. There are many of us and we need to be cordial and respectful. for those who cannot we simply ask them to just go someplace else and not ruin it for the others
[wileymorgan] the dinar investment in kind of like a colonscopy, you want to know but do not want to go through the process
[sonnayhwh] wileymorgan If only we could have been knocked out during this process . . . grin
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KTFA:
DELTA » November 17th, 2013, 1:50 pm •
JUST IN FROM IRAQIA TV:
CBI DENIES DELETING THREE ZEROS OF 2014
DELTA
LINK
by mryantodd » November 17th, 2013, 2:38 pm
This could mean just about anything IMO:
1. deleting zeroes will occur before 2014
2. deleting zeroes will occur after 2014
3. this is just smoke designed to confuse and throw doubt on a possible RV
4. this is similar to what has happened in the past where a government vehemently denies an RV immediately preceding the RV
5. this is just another mistranslated article that is meaningless
6. I don't have a clue what is going on in Iraq and continue to demonstrate my ignorance in a public forum
Personally, I am going with #6. I should follow my own advice and remain silent so people will only guess that I am ignorant instead of opening my mouth and removing all doubt...
Society » November 17th, 2013, 2:32 pm
"...stressing that this timing is Matrouh now...."
DELTA......will you translate "Matrouh"???
Delta: PROPOSED
DELTA
NSA links to St Petersburg FL Drug Ring
NSA links to St Petersburg FL Drug Ring
Posted By: esu333
Date: Sunday, 17-Nov-2013 12:55:05
Date: Sunday, 17-Nov-2013 12:55:05
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Skyway Global LLC, the St. Petersburg, FL company that owned the DC-9 airline busted in Mexico carrying 5.5 tons of cocaine, made its headquarters in a 79,000 sq ft building owned by Verint Systems (NASDAQ: VRNT), a foreign tele-communications company with a contract to wiretap the U.S. for the NSA through the communication lines of Verizon, which handles almost half of all landline and cell phone calls in the U.S. Verint’s founder and CEO, Jacob “Kobi” Alexander, is a former Israeli intelligence officer who is today a fugitive from justice living in Namibia, where he has for several years been fighting extradition to the U.S. On Verint’s Board of Directors is Lieutenant General Kenneth A. Minihan, former director of the NSA, which has led to speculation that the company today is a joint NSA-Mossad operation.img_bk_Bamford_Shadow_Factory James Bamford’s 2008 expose of the NSA, “The Shadow Factory, The Ultra-Secret NSA from 9/11 to the Eavesdropping on America,” unearthed disturbing facts about how America’s two major telecom companies, AT & T and Verizon, had outsourced the bugging of their entire networks to what Bamford called “two mysterious companies with very troubling foreign connections.” Verint is one of those two “mysterious companies.” Definition of "making a start": Two recent convictions In “The NSA, Drug Trafficking, & the Crash of Cocaine2,” I reported that I first learned of that Agency’s involvement in drug trafficking in 2000, more than a decade before the super-secret NSA became a household name. The source for that story, Russ Eakin, had been the NSA’s “man on the ground” in Bolivia during the Cocaine Coup in the early 1980’s. The discovery of previously-undisclosed ties between SkyWay and the NSA came in a review of documents after two men implicated in the drug trafficking network were recently convicted. Recently Douglas McClain Jr, was sentenced to 14 years for money laundering in Federal Court in San Diego. McClain was the president of Argyll Equities, the dodgy private bank in Texas which purchased the drug-running DC-9 for SkyWay. Joining McClain in the Big House is Jonathon Curshen, who got twenty years for fraud and money laundering. Curshen, an American con man from Sarasota Florida, controlled a company in Costa Rica called Red Sea Management, which (at least on paper) generously provided— in return for 28,000,000 shares of common stock in SkyWay—the 1966 McDonald Douglas DC9 aircraft that shortly thereafter began carrying cargo which came to include 5.6 tons of cocaine worth several hundred million dollars. SkyWay put out a press release announcing the deal: "The DuPont Investment Fund 57289, Inc. Satisfies $7 Million Funding Agreement with SkyWay Communications Holding Corp." "Some guy in Costa Rica" “They wrote it up in a press release, touting how they’d just received a big investment from the DuPont Foundation," explained a former SkyWay executive. "It turned out to be bogus. It was just some guy (Curshen) at a desk in Costa Rica.” SkyWay’s twisted three-year history of unpunished financial fraud seems relatively well-known at this point. The company in deliberate fashion stole the life savings of thousands of investors, through the simple expedient of issuing barrages of press releases filled with utterly false statements to pump up the stock’s price before the company filed for bankruptcy. SkyWay’s only other overt act of capitalism was its participation in the ownership of a plane hauling 5.5 tons of cocaine worth several hundred million dollars. But what is known about SkyWay may also illustrate just how much we still don’t know about the NSA. Musical chairs and the "known unknowns" It has always struck some observers as odd that a fledgling start-up like SkyWay—with at the time just a few dozen employees—moved in to a huge 79,000 square foot facility in January of 2003, the recently-vacated American headquarters of Tadiran Tele-Communications, which had moved its U.S. operations to New York. So I took a closer look at the Israeli telecom company which passed on its U.S. headquarters to a tiny start-up with no prospects and little money. According to a press release, Tadiran Tele-com (TTN) moved its U.S. headquarters to the newly-constructed facility in Clearwater in early 1997. When I first learned of Tadiran, the company didn’t set off any alarm bells. Now a little probing indicated that the Israeli entity housing itself in Clearwater Florida didn’t call itself “Tadiran” for long. In early 1999, Tadiran’s global surveillance division, housed in Clearwater, was sold to another Israeli telecom, ECI-Telecommunications (Nasdaq: ECTX). The Israeli Government’s Clearwater-based Surveillance entity (whatever its name-of-the-moment) was finally sold to Verint Systems Inc. in early February 2004. One possible explanation for the game of musical chairs is that Tadiran’s name had already become tarnished, after the company was accused of being involved in worldwide espionage. In Guatemala, the company became infamous for having installed two intelligence computers which were reportedly used to select death squad victims, as well as pinpoint urban guerrilla safe houses. Tadiran also funded an electronics school for the Guatemalan army. At the same time Israel was setting up a factory to manufacture ammunition and replacement parts for Guatemala’s Israeli-made rifles, and advising the Guatemalan military by providing military, counterinsurgency, and intelligence advisers for what human rights groups called a genocidal war which included forced resettlement schemes in the rural highlands against a largely Mayan Indian population. Carlos Slim jumps the shark N900SAThe DC9 (N900SA) was the first of two drug planes with apparent ties to the U.S. Government caught carrying multi-ton loads of cocaine in Mexico over an 18-month period. The second, a Gulfstream II business jet (N987SA), was cited by European authorities for flying extraordinary renditions missions for the CIA. In 2006, during the same year SkyWay’s drug plane was seized, the Bush Administration chose SkyWay landlord-partner-co-conspirator Verint to install a $3 million telephone and Internet wiretapping center in Mexico, allowing authorities there to eavesdrop on every landline and cell phone call made in the country. “In 2006 the Bush Administration entered into a quiet agreement with the Mexican Government to fund and build an enormous $3 million telephone and Internet eavesdropping vendor that would reach into every town and village in the country,” reported James Bamford. In fact, a press release suggests the program in Mexico probably began three years earlier. The headline read: “Comverse (which became Verint) Selected by Telefonos de Mexico to Implement a Widespread Expansion of Voicemail Services.” Telefonos de Mexico (Telmex) is owned by Mexico’s richest man, Carlos Slim Helú, whose own links to the drug trade have been the subject of rumors for years. And with some reason: When Amado Carrillo Fuentes, known in Mexico as “Lord of the Skies" for his vast armada of planes, died in 1997 while undergoing plastic surgery, he was worth $25 billion, according to the AP. If you do the math, that means that Drug Lord Amado Fuentes managed to salt away no more than $10 or $15 billion a decade… And HE was in the cocaine business, where counting your money can be a bigger problem than making it. At that same time Carlos Slim was worth $6 billion, according to numerous published reports. For example, the May 7, 1999, Mexico City newspaper La Jornada fixed Slim's fortune at “something like $6 billion.” Latin Trade magazine pegged Slim as being worth $7.2 billon. After working hard for more than 40 years, Carlos Slim was worth a hefty $6 billion. Yet, according to news reports in 2009, when Slim made a big investment in the New York Times, Slim was now worth between $57 billion and $60 billion dollars. Has anyone in history ever made $50 billion in just ten years? Did Carlos Slim? Not by doing anything legal, he didn’t. Do the math. Mexico's richest man is dirty. Did data mining lead to body dumping? Bamford discovered a State Department document used to solicit vendors for the system, in which the U. S. was promising to provide Mexico ‘with the capability to intercept, analyze, and use intercepted information from all kinds of communications systems operating in Mexico.” The communications intercept system, which the U.S. was paying for, included all necessary hardware, software, and equipment to provide a complete system to intercept, process analyze and store email, internet, chat, landline and cellular, including location and tracking, with the capability to scan millions of telephone calls with voice prints of their targets, to analyze calls and automatically generate links between them to bring under surveillance ever-widening circles of people. The system the Bush Administration chose for Mexico was similar to the warrantless eavesdropping operation in the U.S. And it used one of the two “mysterious companies with very troubling foreign connections” that Bamford was warning about. Calderon argued he needed the system and the freedom from court scrutiny to fight drugs and organized crime, many in Mexico, like former Mexico City prosecutor Renato Sales, weren’t buying it. “Suddenly anyone suspected of organized crime is presumed guilty and treated as someone without any constitutional rights. And who will determine who is an organized crime suspect? The State will.” Define "unfair competitive advantage" The vendor for the job, founded by veterans of Israel’s version of the NSA, the hyper-secret Unit 9200, was Verint, the same company that had somehow ended up owning the gleaming facility in Clearwater Florida that the drug traffickers at SkyWay Global called “home.” Having your own countrywide bugging system to listen in on phone calls made by your indiscreet drug trafficking competitors is probably the very definition of an “unfair competitive advantage. “ Few think that sort of consideration slowed down anyone in this gang. Data scraped through internet search queries, emails, Smartphone chatter and text messages may be intrusive; but the result may be nothing more serious than a few targeted ads in your browser. But when the data mining is being done by bent officials from a major NSA contractor with a contract to wiretap and eavesdrop on both the U.S. and across the entire country of Mexico, the results can probably be measured, not in annoying pop-up ads, but in piles of corpses on one side of the road, and piles of heads on the other. |
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Two Witnesses Saw Barack Obama on CIA Mars
Visitation Program in 1983
Published on Mar 4,
2013
Part of DARPA's Project Pegasus as a young child and now a
practicing attorney, Andrew D. Basiago claims to be one of America's early
time-space explorers. Appearing in the latter half of the show, he discussed
his involvement with the CIA's Mars visitation program in 1980. The program, he
said, was started in the 1970s, and transported people from a "jump
room" (an elevator in El Segundo, CA that served as a kind of portal) to
the surface of Mars. According to Basiago, Maj. Ed Dames taught a training
course to several of the participants about what to expect in terms of
humanoids and "predator species" on the Martian surface (Dames
briefly appeared in the 4th hour and denied his involvement with the program).
Also joining the show was William Brett Stillings, who said he was in the Mars visitation program in the early 1980s along with Basiago, and such future luminaries as Barry Soetoro (Pres. Barack Obama), and Regina Dugan (the current head of DARPA).
Biography:
The team leader of Project Pegasus, Andrew D. Basiago, is a lawyer, writer, and 21st century visionary. He is an emerging figure in the Disclosure Movement, who is leading a campaign to lobby the United States government to disclose such controversial truths as the fact that Mars harbors life and that the United States has achieved "quantum access" to past and future events.
He has been identified as the first of two major planetary whistle blowers predicted by ALTA, the Web Bot project that analyzes the content of the World Wide Web to discern future trends.
Far from being the mere 'son of a goat herder' (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community. Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that's just the beginning.
After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president-- and likely many others-- really is. Thus, we urge everyone to read Wayne Madsen's deep report and seek the truth for yourself.
Also joining the show was William Brett Stillings, who said he was in the Mars visitation program in the early 1980s along with Basiago, and such future luminaries as Barry Soetoro (Pres. Barack Obama), and Regina Dugan (the current head of DARPA).
Biography:
The team leader of Project Pegasus, Andrew D. Basiago, is a lawyer, writer, and 21st century visionary. He is an emerging figure in the Disclosure Movement, who is leading a campaign to lobby the United States government to disclose such controversial truths as the fact that Mars harbors life and that the United States has achieved "quantum access" to past and future events.
He has been identified as the first of two major planetary whistle blowers predicted by ALTA, the Web Bot project that analyzes the content of the World Wide Web to discern future trends.
Far from being the mere 'son of a goat herder' (as he deceptively paraded during and even before his candidacy), strong evidence has emerged that President Barack Obama is the product of the intelligence community. Investigative reporter and former NSA employee Wayne Madsen has put together an extensive three-part (and growing) series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham, Lolo Soetoro and President Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and larger intelligence community. And that's just the beginning.
After his election, President Obama quickly moved to seal off his records via an executive order. Now, after two years of hints and clues, there is substantial information to demonstrate that what Obama has omitted is that his rare rise to power can only be explained by his intelligence roots. However, this is more than the story of one man or his family. There is a long-term strategic plan to recruit promising candidates into intelligence and steer these individuals and their families into positions of influence and power. Consider that it is now declassified former British Prime Minister Tony Blair was recruited into MI5 before becoming a labour leader, or that George H. W. Bush not only became CIA director in 1976 but had a deeper past in the organization. While we may never know many pertinent details about these matters, one thing that is certain is that the American people have never been told the truth about who holds the real power, nor who this president-- and likely many others-- really is. Thus, we urge everyone to read Wayne Madsen's deep report and seek the truth for yourself.
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