12/23/13 DINAR RUMORS/INTEL AND GURUS DISINFO

birdman98 wrote Nov 23rd @01:10pm: Prediction ? My Source says everything is done he expects it to be Live before 5am GMT = 12am EST ... The Parameters that tony spoke of in the system are close to being at where they need to be ... So if there isn't some world wide event that will ruin everything We Would Be In The Banks Monday Morning Bright And Early For SURE

MWKD wrote Nov 23rd @12:32pm: Tonight between 11pm-1am est.. PRIME

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Loechin Live Update

Nervous, that's the one word the describes most of the Dinar Community right now. I will say that as of yesterday I was getting nervous myself not because of the RV not happening but as to when, or I was thinking maybe my guys had lead me astray. I was made aware of this by our family friend Gladys. I thought this is nuts but my Parent's had already bought some IQN. My mom asked me to check it out so I did and much to my surprise it was for REAL. I must say that through the years I have at times found myself thinking when this would happen for the Nation of Iraq and it's People, and for us the American People. Then friends that I have made through the years begin to inquire if I was aware of the Blessing we have come to call the IQN. I am not now nor will I ever be a guru I just laugh at that. I am just a guy who just has friends and I will leave it at that. You see God knew who I would need to know and He put them in my life and I'm more then grateful for that. If I mentioned them you would be surprised to..... lol I have received calls, emails, text messages from people who have said that I'm off track, I'm a disciple of TNT Tony, OKIE and others. Been cussed out, threatened and so much more. Today I am laughing and think when I leave the Bank soon I will be the one laughing. So the word is that the timer is going and when the right number comes up then Bingo. I love the fact that we don't know when but have an idea of the ending time. I am going to do a prerecorded call tonight with all the information I think you will need in the next several days. Please I beg you follow the rules it will benefit all of us who come to exchange after you. Remember don't mix you currencies together in the same accounts. Call the 800's make your appointments, which you better not be late for, and then enjoy your life..... The rates are still great, the banks have the numbers, you should have your plans in place, Now tomorrow is Sunday go Worship Jesus, be Thankful and let this Blessing come to you........

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Thoughts and Opinions from TNT Members Sat. Night

11/23/2013

Spguru...Don't read in to all the info because Intel is hard to come by. Remember the past and what is needed for this to happen and the economics of the GCR.....

Spguru..Put it this way I have nothing else to say other than be here to support. It is all handled and just waiting for blessings. New intel is old info and smoke and mirrors

Spguru …Love all the smoke and mirrors coming out today. It seems to be at the brim. Just what we wanted. Denial denial denial. Patiently we wait for the blessing.

 [Chicago22] Leochin how are we looking

[loechin] Just preparing my plan for the Banks

[igotit] loechin ... do you expect banking on tomorrow, or starting Monday AM.

 [loechin] igotit I always bank on Monday
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[loechin] You have this assurance that CL said do this so if she has to step in she will

birdman98 wrote Nov 23rd @01:10pm:   Prediction ? My Source says everything is done he expects it to be Live before 5am GMT = 12am EST ... The Parameters that tony spoke of in the system are close to being at where they need to be ... So if there isnt some world wide event that will ruins everything We Would Be In The Banks Monday Morning Bright And Early For SURE

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LOECHIN LIVE

Nervous, that's the one word the describes most of the Dinar Community right now. I will say that as of yesterday I was getting nervous myself not because of the RV not happening but as to when, or I was thinking maybe my guys had lead me astray.

 I was made aware of this by our family friend Gladys. I thought this is nuts but my Parent's had already bought some IQN. My mom asked me to check it out so I did and much to my surprise it was for REAL.

I must say that through the years I have at times found myself thinking when this would happen for the Nation of Iraq and it's People, and for us the American People.

Then friends that I have made through the years begin to inquire if I was aware of the Blessing we have come to call the IQN. I am not now nor will I ever be a guru I just laugh at that.

I am just a guy who just has friends and I will leave it at that. You see God knew who I would need to know and He put them in my life and I'm more then grateful for that. If I mentioned them you would be surprised to..... lol

I have received calls, emails, text messages from people who have said that I'm off track, I'm a disciple of TNT Tony, OKIE and others. Been cussed out, threatened and so much more. Today I am laughing and think when I leave the Bank soon I will be the one laughing.

So the word is that the timer is going and when the right number comes up then Bingo. I love the fact that we don't know when but have an idea of the ending time.

I am going to do a prerecorded call tonight with all the information I think you will need in the next several days. Please I beg you follow the rules it will benefit all of us who come to exchange after you.

Remember don't mix you currencies together in the same accounts. Call the 800's make your appointments, which you better not be late for, and then enjoy your life.....

The rates are still great, the banks have the numbers, you should have your plans in place,

Now tomorrow is Sunday go Worship Jesus, be Thankful and let this Blessing come to you........

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[downerdan] I saw TD's post on Dinar Guru saying that it's going to be a LOP and we won't see anything until 2014. That is devastating and crushing. :(

[al] With regards to this guy TD and people’s concerns, he is basing the weight of his argument on an Iraq news article which has been proven to be dubious at best. Sounding vaguely similar to news reports out of China and Kuwait before they RV their currency in the past. Not to mention that the same news agencies and the CBI have been promising the Iraq people more purchasing power and a new currency for this year. Add to that that Tony, Okie, Lochin, Spguru, Poppy3 and many others who all have a broad spectrum of sources are all saying that is going down right NOW! So who do we put our confidence in, a guy armed with a dubious news article or our trusted informants?

[Whiplash] downerdan The same type of talk has accompanied other RVs. In China, a press release came out in the morning to squelch all rumors of any imminent RV. That afternoon, RV on Chinese currency. Similar process preceded the Kuwait RV. Be happy to see TD's pos. It means it is imminent.

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/thoughts-and-opionions-from-tnt-members-saturday-pm.html

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Life after RV" by MWKD at the TNT Forum Sat.PM

11/23/2013

MWKD: Life after RV....

Ok many of you will have money that you have never seen before, more than you have ever dreamed of, and it WILL be a once in a lifetime thing.

Don't go out and buy all the flashy things, multiple houses, and taking care of everyone.

There will be a lot of people trying to get things from you, asking you for things, and trying to involve you in projects because they know you have money.

The first thing I would do is get a great tax attorney and a CPA. You want to make sure that all of your finances are in place and you are current on your taxes.. If you see the news, the two major things that involves a millionaires downfall is taxes and supporting an entourage of people.

TWO biggest mistakes ever. When you get your money, sit back for a minute and TAKE YOUR TIME.

You DO NOT have to be in a rush to do everything. You didn't become a millionaire over night and you surely don't wanna be broke over night either.
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Take you time with every investment, get multiple opinions form multiple sources. See what is the most consistent information and go from there.

When making investments, invest into something that you know are going to be around (i.e. children). People will always have kids, and this is one of the most promising investments because people are always looking for something to do with their children.

This is just one example if you plan on quitting your job and you still want to get involved in something where your money can still make money. Don't be so quick to quit working and walking away from everything. If you choose to do this, some of you need to get a degree or take some college courses.

Educate yourself, learn about investments, finance, the WORLD. The last thing that you want to be is an incompetent millionaire. You will be the first ones broke, I promise. "A fool and his money will soon part" This is true, as I have seen it happen countless times.

But guys, you don't have to listen to me, do as you want. It is your money and spend it as you like. I would suggest that you pay attention to your money and how you spend it, because this is it.

Once the money is gone, EVERYTHING else goes with it.

LAST BUT NOT LEAST, SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE OF KNOWLEDGE.

IF YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW NOTHING, WHERE CAN THEY TAKE YOU? NO WHERE!!!!!

SURROUND YOURSELF WITH PEOPLE WHO KNOW SOMETHINGS, PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING PLACES, EDUCATED PEOPLE.

I PROMISE YOU, YOU ARE SURE TO FOLLOW.

BE BLESSED

http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/life-after-rv-by-mwkd-at-the-tnt-forum-satpm.html

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Dinarians - Just some info for your information .... So the truth be known about your favorite gur-fools

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Mountain Goat

For those who read Mountain Goat, here is a little info.  Her IP address is in Boston, and if you remember one of her past posts where she explained she was in the market place with the snow, etc (Nov 14th). 

Go to this website:  http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/its-thursday-looking-good-by-mntgoat-posted-by-georgeh-at-tnt-forum.html

Well, if you go to this website - http://www.bavaria.by/d0872665-0bc8-0b9f-3f28-3ccc6e72939a.html 

You will find that she/he copied that whole thing from the Bavarian travel website - word for word.

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Tony  “Anthony Renfrow”

(I did not write this!  Somebody else did who did the research.)

Check this out!  Here is what I found out about Tony. This is directly from the court docket. The criminal charge was filed 4-18-2012. His name is Anthony Renfrow. There is another co-defendant, William Fox. Tony is represented by the Office of the Public Defender. That means he has no money to pay an attorney. The co-defendant, William Fox, hired his own private attorney.

Tony has been charged with the following: The first count is: "Conspiracy to Commit Wire Fraud and Engaging in Monetary Transactions of More Than $10,000 in Criminally Derived Property."

This first count also seeks "forfeiture", which means that Tony used some of the funds he stole to buy something, and the USA is wanting that asset(s) to be forfeited or surrendered to the USA.

The second count is "Wire Fraud", and also seeks forfeiture of asset(s).

Tony was arrested on May 30, 2012, but was later released pending the outcome of the criminal charges.

Tony also filed a "Financial Affidavit" with the Federal Court on May 30, 2012. The purpose of that Financial Affidavit was to prove that he (Tony) is BROKE and has no money to pay for an attorney, which resulted in the Court appointing the Public Defender to represent Tony.

There have been a multitude of various motions filed with the court from May 2012 to now, most of which have just delayed the trial. The last entry on the court docket is dated 10-3-2013, which is an Order of the Court granting Tony's motion to delay the filing of PreTrial Motions in the case until January 27, 2014.

And the follow-up comments are even better - He obviously is hiding any dinar he holds as an asset, which would be considered (because it has monetary value) when qualifying for a public defender.  His "donations" tab is funding his lifestyle while he continues to lie daily and make people miserable.  I wholeheartedly agree with the last paragraph that his "high rates" are to swindle people out of their dinar.  Everyone needs to stay clear of this con man.

Here are the links to the court documents:

https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/1/

https://www.docketalarm.com/cases/Kansas_District_Court/2--12-cr-20041/USA_v._Renfrow_et_al/

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IRAQI SMART CARD

(This info is from a good friend of mine.)

This is the Iraqi Smart Card - a friend of mine who is an Iraqi Citizen just returned from vacation in Iraq.  He said these are the cards which are supposed to be loaded but, as of this time, they have not put any money on the cards for the Iraqis.  You will notice the computer chip is on top of the card - he has his thumb over the area where his number appears.

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Part 1  BondLady & Admin Chat

11/22/2013

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[BondLady] Subject: Your IMF Update: Press Release - Iraq New item about your countries of interest: Press Release: IMF Executive Board Reviews Noncomplying Purchase by Iraq and Breach of Obligations Under Article VIII, Section 5

Press Release No. 13/464   November 21, 2013

The Executive Board of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) has reviewed a noncomplying disbursement by Iraq totaling SDR 297.1 million (about $453.7 million) that was made on March 22, 2011, following the completion of the second review under the 2010 Stand-By Arrangement (SBA) (see Press Release 11/90), and a breach of obligations under Article VIII, Section 5 of the IMF’s Articles of Agreement.

The SBA was approved in February 2010 for a total amount of SDR 2.38 billion (about $3.63 billion) to cover Iraq’s balance of payments needs (see Press Release 10/60). Iraq received disbursements amounting to the equivalent of SDR 1,069.56 million (about $1.63 billion). The SBA expired in February 2013.
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As the authorities have taken appropriate corrective measures since the purchase in March 2011, the Executive Board granted a waiver for the nonobservance of one continuous performance criterion (PC) and determined that no further remedial action is required in connection with its obligation to provide information under Article VIII, Section 5.

The noncompliant disbursement arose as a result of misreporting on the observance of the standard continuous PC for the nonimposition or intensification of restrictions on the making of payments and transfers for current international transactions.

 In October 2012, staff learned that during the last quarter of 2010 the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI) issued three circulars on the daily foreign exchange auctions that gave rise to exchange restrictions subject to IMF jurisdiction.

 The circulars: (a) introduced maximum limits on the availability of foreign currency cash for individuals, (b) introduced limits on the availability of foreign currency cash through the CBI foreign exchange auctions to money transfer companies and exchange bureaus, and (c) introduced and (d) later intensified a requirement to present a tax clearance certificate for firms to transfer funds in excess of certain amounts purchased through the CBI auctions.

The restriction on the availability of foreign currency cash for individuals was temporary, as the CBI repealed it in August 2011.

The authorities have taken appropriate corrective action by removing the remaining restrictions in the course of 2013. On this basis, the Executive Board granted a waiver for the nonobservance of the PC.

The Executive Board also found that the inaccurate reporting on the observance of the PC also gave rise to Iraq’s breach of its obligations under Article VIII, Section 5, of the IMF’s Articles of Agreement, which requires member countries to furnish such information as the Fund deems necessary for its activities, including information that is necessary to assess observance of PCs.

The CBI introduced the necessary changes in its procedures in order to share circulars with the IMF in a timely manner and regularly publish the circulars on the CBI website. In view of the commitment by Iraq to provide timely and accurate data to the IMF on the exchange system in the future, the Executive Board decided not to require any further remedial action in connection with the breach of obligations under Article VIII, Section 5

http://www.imf.org/external/np/sec/pr/2013/pr13464.htm

[BondLady] per timmy....It appears to me that although the CBI messed up the agreement, whether by accident or on purpose, the IMF has forgiven their past indiscretion and this will allow Iraq to move freely into Article VIII when their exchange regime is chosen ,it's as simple as that , great news !!!!

Here is what the IMF said to Iraq in July 2013  encouraging them to comply to Article VIII : 30.Staff welcomes the CBI’s objective to liberalize the foreign exchange market and the recent steps to simplify market regulations.

However, staff urges the CBI to take immediate further measures to liberalize fully the supply of foreign exchange, with the objective of lowering the exchange rate spread, removing distortions, eliminating rents, and ultimately complying with Article VIII of the Fund’s Articles of Agreement.

Staff also encourages the authorities to refrain from introducing any new regulation that could lead to a breach of obligations under Article VIII. In parallel, the authorities need to strengthen the AML/CFT framework in line with MENA/FATF recommendations and FATF standards, to support their efforts to deter money laundering and financing of terrorism.

Against this background, staff does not recommend approval of the exchange restrictions and the multiple currency practice listed in the Informational Annex.

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/scr/2013/cr13217.pdf

[BondLady] that was timmys research per the IMF release, ty timmy

[tlm724] yqw can I show you something please ?

[BondLady] sure

IMF Mission Concludes Article IV Discussions with Iraq Press Release No. 13/87 March 21, 2013 An International Monetary Fund (IMF) mission, led by Mr. Carlo Sdralevich, met with an official Iraqi delegation headed by the Acting Minister of Finance, Dr. Ali Al Shukri, in Amman, Jordan, during March 2-12, 2013 to conduct the Article IV Consultation discussion.

The IMF mission met with the Acting Minister of Finance, the Acting Governor of the Central Bank of Iraq (CBI), head of the Board of Supreme Audit, AbdulBasit Al Turki Said, and other Iraqi officials from the ministries of finance, planning, and oil, and representatives from the Central Bank and the Board of Supreme Audit.

The team also met with representatives from the Iraqi banking and business community. At the conclusion of the mission, Mr. Sdralevich made the following statement: “Following the recent expiration of the Stand-By Arrangement with Iraq approved in 2010, the IMF is committed to continue close collaboration with Iraq to support its development and help the government improve the social conditions and employment opportunities of Iraqi citizens.

“Despite a difficult security and political environment, Iraq managed to maintain macroeconomic stability over the past two years. On the back of rising oil production and robust non-oil activity, economic growth has remained strong at about 8 percent in 2012.

 We expect activity to accelerate further to 9 percent in 2013, as oil production increases from just under 3 million barrels per day (mbpd) in 2012 to 3.3 mbpd in 2013.

 In 2012, inflation was contained at 6 percent, and we project it to decline slightly next year. On account of strong oil proceeds, CBI reserves reached US$70 billion at the end of 2012, while the Development Fund for Iraq (DFI) rose to US$18 billion.

[tlm724] http://www.imf.org/exter1387.htm

[tlm724] let me just give you my thoughts here, this conclusion imo brought forth a list of discrepancies brought about by the former administration at the CBI and the IMF said hey do these things then you will be ready

[BondLady] I think because there showing the DFI articles also that's related also

[tlm724] now that these things have been forgiven IMO Iraq will now move fully into article VIII of the IMF agreement which means they have to chose a currency regime

[BondLady] and their debt owed and the audit

[tlm724] BondLady they are absolutely related !

[BondLady] I think your right timmers

[tlm724] Shredd may have some insight on the currency regime

[BondLady] so many things with them is connect the dots...so not what the gurus scream daily rv rv rv they can't rv unless they were ready and its getting closer IMO just a few more things to line up

[Shredd] right, well, WTO is really the goal regarding intl trade but that cannot happen like we've chatted about earlier until they are IMF compliant

[BondLady] agreed and they did make the statement when asked what currency they would use to pay for exports and they did say dinar not the us dollar

[Shredd] when these happen, intl investment/trade can take place and as we've read and discussed, that will require a market driven currency rate

[oogie] *hallelujah*

[BondLady] per the WTO

[therealbubbie] WTO The Ninth Ministerial Conference will be held in Bali, Indonesia, from 3 to 6 December 2013. The Opening Ceremony will be held on the afternoon of the first day, Tuesday 3 December, followed by two working days, 4 and 5 December, with the Closing Ceremony on the final day, Friday 6 December http://mc9.wto.org/

[Shredd] BondLady right

[tlm724] Shredd  the fact remains Iraq obviously has gotten it together

[Shredd] yes indeed

[Shredd] The authorities have taken appropriate corrective action by removing the remaining restrictions in the course of 2013. On this basis, the Executive Board granted a waiver for the nonobservance of the PC.

[Shredd] the Executive Board decided not to require any further remedial action in connection with the breach of obligations under Article VIII, Section 5.

[Shredd] remember that bond article from a few days ago

[BondLady] several bond articles and yeppers

[Shredd] it said the first tranche, or "level" will be released by year end. more will come and this will demonstrate investment appetite but it's only on the local scene for now. international won't happen until IMF compliance and WTO ascension takes place

[tlm724] I want to remind everyone of one thing, Turki has done more as far as monetary changes and currency adjustments in the last few months then Shabibi did in all these years

[BondLady] yes Shabibi did slow growth he was gonna let the rate go gradually down deleting the 000 1 at a time...

[BondLady] then they progressed quickly so that started to change things so he programmed the rate

[tlm724] I think Turki fast tracked everything the IMF required of the CBI to get it done !

[BondLady] and only let it grow 2%, well to the worlds eyes anyway



[BondLady] we knew the exchange rate was growing stronger even if we couldn't see it because of the programmed rate

[Shredd] oh yes, indeed

[BondLady] dirty float

[tlm724] right ! you said that BondLady

[Shredd] right just based on supply alone it would be so much stronger

PART 2

Comments

MT

11/22/2013 4:08pm

Baghdad (IraqiNews.com) The Financial Parliamentary Committee announced that the 2014 State budget reaches IQD 174.6 trillion and its major part allocated for energy and security sectors.

Member, Majda al-Tamimi, of the Financial Parliamentary Committee published on her Facebook page that ”The 2014 State Budget reaches IQD (174,6) trillion distributed as (22) trillion for security and defense, (38,9) trillion for energy, including (11) trillion allocated for electricity sector, seven trillions for trade field, including five trillions allocated for ration card.”

”The budget allocated IQD (1,9) trillion for construction, four trillions for the Council of Ministers, (99) billions for agriculture and two trillions for industry sector,” she added.”

The budget allocated three trillions for the new salaries table,” noting that ”The rate of the investment allocations within 2014 State reached 36% while in the 2013 State budget reached 40%,”. She concluded.


Read more: http://www.iraqinews.com/business-iraqi-dinar/01-state-budget-exceeds-iqd-1-trillions/#ixzz2lPVVV2Iu
Follow us: @IraqiNews_com on Twitter | IraqNews on Facebook

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Late Friday Night Dinar Chatter

11/23/2013

TONY: Tntdinar wrote nov 22nd @06:48pm in the forum chat: Good Evening everyone. I don't have any news yet. We are all on the edge of our seats waiting for that call of all calls. I am just looking around the site to see how everyone is doing. Enjoy the rest of the night and let's hope that the morning will bring us an RV.

Srhryder311:    I was at my bank in texas taking care of some business. I asked out of curiosity if they would be taking part in the exchange, and she asked what i had and how much. I told her iqn and my amount and she said yes we do and the rate is the same as Tony has been saying. She gave me her card and told me to call and set an appointment with their personal banker Monday.

Get ready folks our blessings have arrived. She also mentioned the vnn, zim, and rupiah and dropped the term GCR withput me mentioning it!!!

 Dont ask what bank. I WILL NOT disclose it. Dont need other idiots stopping it again!
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[jdavis8905] This is what was in chat earlier from Missionman: wellwoman: iwantanrv: missionman was on the phone with a contact from the ust. Contact said rv happened at 9:00 est today. He checked with another source who said it was on the back screens at wf in san fran. We shou;ld see rv tomorrow. He went to check for more info. Said he will be back

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I4U:

[WILDDUCK] K THIS IS GOING TO BE SHORT AND SWEET TONIGHT, I AM GOING TO LAY BACK FOR 2 MORE DAYS. THEN THE LOGIC TRAIN WILL ROLL,

I HAVE BEEN ENJOYING THE ABILITY TO COME AND GO. WE ALL KNOW THE STORY OF THE DAY, I HAVE EARS IN A LOT OF THE SAME PLACES AND SOME TIMES THE STORY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON WHO IS SUPPOSED TO GET WHAT MESSAGE IMO.

THE INTEL IS HARD TO COME BY AS WHALES HAVE FED AND NDA'S HAVE BEEN SIGNED AND THEY ARE NOT OUT CHASING THIS WITH US.

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http://www.dinarrecaps.com/1/post/2013/11/late-friday-night-dinar-chatter9.html

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11-22-2013   Intel Guru TerryK   THE BANKS ARE NOT THE ISSUE.   IT'S THE SIGNING IN OF THE GOLD STANDARD IS WHAT I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY.  THE PEEPS FROM CHINA ARE STILL IN WASHINGTON, THEY ARE STILL WAITING ON THE UST WHO IS WAITING ON WHAT I WAS TOLD LAST NIGHT O [OBAMA] TO GIVE THEM THE LIGHT TO GO.  THE IMF AND UST CONTACTS ARE TELLING ME ITS DONE AND READY, HAS BEEN DONE FOR WEEKS.


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TNT:

TONY: Tntdinar wrote

 nov 22nd @06:48pm in the forum chat: Good Evening everyone. I don't have any news yet. We are all on the edge of our seats waiting for that call of all calls. I am just looking around the site to see how everyone is doing. Enjoy the rest of the night and let's hope that the morning will bring us an RV.

Srhryder311:    I was at my bank in Texas taking care of some business. I asked out of curiosity if they would be taking part in the exchange, and she asked what i had and how much. I told her iqn and my amount and she said yes we do and the rate is the same as Tony has been saying. She gave me her card and told me to call and set an appointment with their personal banker Monday.

Get ready folks our blessings have arrived. She also mentioned the vnn, zim, and rupiah and dropped the term GCR without me mentioning it!!!

 Dont ask what bank. I WILL NOT disclose it. Dont need other idiots stopping it again!

[jdavis8905] This is what was in chat earlier from

 missionman was on the phone with a contact from the ust. Contact said rv happened at 9:00 est today. He checked with another source who said it was on the back screens at wf in san fran. We should see rv tomorrow. He went to check for more info. Said he will be back

Message from SaLuSa by MADAD - November 19, 2013

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Message from SaLuSa by MADAD - November 19, 2013

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Date: Friday, 22-Nov-2013 21:53:39

Message from SaLuSa by MADAD - November 19, 2013 Are you ready to be immersed into deeper feeling of Love that will immediately surround your being when you step into your higher reality. This Love energy is changing you now, and the more you let it in the more you will be attracted to your new experiences. Letting in Love means to look at yourself the way you truly are and accept all that is creating whole being with understanding that the love for yourself and others is giving you. Every part of your body, every memory and thought are creating unity with your Soul, your consciousness that have wished for the physical form and situations to experience during this life to perfectly lead you into the point of where you are now. This Love is giving you deeper insight of your experiences and gaining more wisdom of them and when this understanding comes, you can let the though experiences with corresponding memories and thoughts let go and free yourself completely for The New. Feel how the energy of the word “New” resonates within you. Many of you have experienced higher realities before, but never experienced or never attached your consciousness to this kind of Ascension, so you all feel immense attraction towards living it all through. Everything new is always creating such attraction for all of us, as we know that it always brings us more wisdom and knowing that we would not reach without deeply and completely experience our choices. These last moments of living only within old reality are here for you to do this and ponder on those choices that are still somehow holding on within your mind and finally let them go with great understanding that you are now all capable of. Sense the freedom that is following closely after, and we know that you no longer will save this work for later time. We know that lower vibration experiences are sometimes very harsh and have created strong feelings of sadness and many other feelings that are denying presence of Love, but we are always with you and sending you so very much Love to make you even stronger for turning all of your experiences into wisdom. With your final clearing also Mother Earth is ready to let go of the lower vibration energy from her body and this way she will greatly support your movement in your higher reality. She also feels the energy rising from within and it is being experienced on the surface, and we see her body glowing with wonderful pure Light of your joined Love. Feel the Oneness with her, because she will be part of your reality until you all will feel it is time for you to move somewhere else and for her to welcome other Souls for shared new experiences. I am SaLuSa from Sirius and wish that you all experience peaceful state of mind, because your heart is now speaking to all of you and is giving you the needed information for your movement higher. Do ask your heart because it is the best source of answers, as there is everything you need to know at this moment, and the amount of information is rapidly increasing so perfectly aligned with the speed that you walk or run towards The New. Channeller: MADAD Webpage: SaLuSa in Love and Light SaLuSa : English -- SaLuSa 19.11.2013 http://salusathroughfaithandhope.blogspot.pt/2013/11/english-salusa-19112013.html

How To Clean Your Arteries With One Simple Fruit

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Written By: Sayer Ji, Founder of GreenMedInfo.com

The future of cardiovascular disease prevention and treatment will not be found in your medicine cabinet, rather in your kitchen cupboard or in your back yard growing on a tree.

Pomegranate Found To Prevent Coronary Artery Disease Progression
A new study published in the journal Atherosclerosis confirms that pomegranate extract may prevent and/or reverse the primary pathology associated with cardiac mortality: the progressive thickening of the coronary arteries caused by the accumulation of fatty materials known as atherosclerosis.
Mice with a genetic susceptibility towards spontaneous coronary artery blockages were given pomegranate extract via their drinking water for two weeks, beginning at three weeks of age. Despite the fact that pomegranate treatment actually increased cholesterol levels associated with very low density lipoprotein-sized particles, the treatment both reduced the size of the atherosclerotic plaques in the aortic sinus (the dilated opening above the aortic valve) and reduced the proportion of coronary arteries with occlusive atherosclerotic plaques.
Remarkably, the researchers also found that pomegranate extract treatment resulted in the following beneficial effects:

• Reduced levels of oxidative stress
• Reduced monocytie chemotactic protein-1, a chemical messenger (chemokine) associated with inflammatory processes within the arteries.
• Reduced lipid accumulation in the heart muscle
• Reduced macrophage infiltration in the heart muscle
• Reduced levels of monocyte chemotactic protein-1 and fibrosis in the myocardium
• Reduced cardiac enlargement
• Reduced ECG abnormalities

How can something as benign and commonplace as a fruit extract reverse so many aspects of coronary artery disease, simultaneously, as evidenced by the study above?  The answer may lie in the fact that our ancestors co-evolved with certain foods (fruits in particular) for so long that a lack of adequate quantities of these foods may directly result in deteriorating organ function.  Indeed, two-time Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling argued that vitamin C deficiency is a fundamental cause of cardiovascular disease, owing to the fact that our hominid primate ancestors once had year-round access to fruits, and as a result lost the ability to synthesize it.
Discussion
This study adds to the already extant body of clinical research indicating that pomegranate can help unclog your arteries.  For instance, back in 2004, the journal Clinical Nutrition published the results of a three year clinical trial in an Israeli population, finding that the daily consumption of pomegranate juice reversed carotid artery stenosis by up to 29% within 1 year.  Remarkably, the blockages in the control group increased 9%, indicating that pomegranate’s artery unblocking effects were even greater than at first apparent.
Pomegranate’s value in cardiovascular disease is quite broad, as evidenced by the following experimentally confirmed properties:

• Anti-inflammatory: Like many chronic degenerative diseases, inflammation plays a significant role in cardiovascular disease pathogenesis. There are five studies on GreenMedInfo.com indicating pomegranate’s anti-inflammatory properties.
• Blood-Pressure Lowering: Pomegranate juice has natural angiotensin converting enzyme inhibiting properties,  and is a nitric oxide enhancer, two well-known pathways for reducing blood pressure.  Finally, pomegranate extract rich in punicalagin has been found reduce the adverse effects of perturbed stress on arterial segments exposed to disturbed flow.
• Anti-Infective: Plaque buildup in the arteries often involves secondary viral and bacterial infection, including hepatitis C and Chlamydia pneumoniae.  Pomegranate has a broad range of anti-bacterial andanti-viral properties.
• Antioxidant: One of the ways in which blood lipids become heart disease-promoting (atherogenic) is through oxidation. LDL, for instance, may be technically ‘elevated’ but harmless as long as it does not readily oxidize. Pomegranate has been found to reduce the oxidative stress in the blood, as measured by serum paraoxonase levels.  One study in mice found this decrease in oxidative stress was associated with 44% reduction in the size of atherosclerotic lesions.

Sayer Ji is the founder of GreenMedInfo.com, an author, researcher, lecturer, and an advisory board member of the National Health Federation.
He founded Greenmedinfo.com in 2008 in order to provide the world an open access, evidence-based resource supporting natural and integrative modalities. It is widely recognized as the most widely referenced health resource of its kind.
Disclaimer: This article is not intended to provide medical advice, diagnosis or treatment. Views expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of GreenMedInfo or its staff.

Date: Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:20 AM
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Water-Powered Cars & Inventors Killed

November 21, 2013

(Left, Genepax, a Japanese car that can drive at 50km/h for an hour on a liter of water.)

Humanity is being held hostage
by the Illuminati bankers who control
the oil cartel.
"The number one thing that will diffuse the [Illuminati agenda] is to bring in an alternate energy source."
by David Richards
(henrymakow.com)

Water-powered cars have existed for years.

Oil, with its attendant evils - pollution, oil wars, oil spills - are unnecessary.

Water-powered cars have been given scant media coverage. In some cases, the inventors were intimidated into ceasing their work or assassinated.

The Illuminati quash free energy technology because it would transform society and breakdown the economic order. If you control the energy, you control the people.

Stanley Meyer, who invented a water fuel device, encapsulated the agenda: 'The internationalists want zero industrial growth, zero population growth... There is a move to force countries to sign over their natural resource rights, and if you sign over your natural resource rights, they have taken over the countries without even firing a shot. The number one thing that will diffuse the entire episode is to bring in an alternate energy source.'

Most of the cars use water as a source of hydrogen, which is a very efficient fuel.

Here is a list of men and companies who have invented water powered cars.

Herman Anderson(1918-2004) - Herman had an illustrious career as a scientist at NASA testing hydrogen powered rockets. He used this knowledge to create a water-powered vehicle which he believed would transform the world.

Herman created a water powered Chevy Cavalier (left). See Video


He was allowed to drive it, but was banned from selling or manufacturing the vehicle in his home State of Tennessee. The official reason was that the car gave off too much radiation. However, hybrid cars (that use both electricity and oil) produce a similar level of radiation and are legal. Go figure.

In 2008, a Japanese company called Genepax unveiled a water-powered car. They received a patent for the vehicle in Japan and demonstrated it to the press. The car is extremely efficient, able to drive at 50km/h for an hour on a litre of water. It runs on virtually any form of water too, even tea and soda.

A year after the launch Genepax stopped selling the cars due to lack of funds. They currently have a website that explains how to convert your car to run on water.


Stanley Meyer (1940-1998) - The most famous water car inventor. The American created the 'water fuel cell', claiming that any car fitted with it could run purely on water. A local television station filmed him driving a dune buggy powered by the device.

The British Advanced Energy Institute reported, 'We recently sent a delegation to witness Stan's work, to really evaluate it, and came back saying "this is one of the most important inventions of the century."'

In 1998, Stanley was murdered. He and his brother Stephen met two Belgian men at a restaurant who claimed to be potential investors. After drinking a sip of cranberry juice, Stanley grabbed his neck and ran outside, where he was violently sick. Stephen recalls, "I ran outside and asked him, 'What's wrong?'. He said, 'They poisoned me.' That was his dying declaration."

The following day Stephen tracked down the Belgian men. "I told them that Stan had died and they never said a word, absolutely nothing, no condolences, no questions." A week after his death, the Feds came to Stan's home and confiscated his car and research equipment.


Steve Ryan's water powered motorcycle- In 2005, "60 Minutes" featured the inventor Steve Ryan demonstrating his water-powered motorbike. The footage shows Ryan fueling the bike with just water and then driving it 50mph along a highway.

Ryan's firm, BiosFuel were planning to sell motorbikes with the conversions in them. However, the company went quiet before announcing, 'Due to political and economical reasons, we are unable to sell the motorcycles.'

The Joe Cell - An Australian man, only identified by the name of Joe "X", has designed an Energy Cell that utilizes water for a fuel. 

Vietnam News: FDI firms may open local currency accounts

Vietnam News: FDI firms may open local currency accounts Posted: November 22, 2013 in Asian Currency Markets Tags: Business, Currency, FDI, Foreign direct investment, Investment, Investor, Vietnam, Vietnamese dong VietNamNet Bridge – International investors and foreign direct investment (FDI) enterprises operating in the country may be allowed to open investment accounts in Vietnamese dong in addition to those in foreign currency. The central bank has been passing around a draft circular governing the management of foreign exchange operations related to FDI enterprises in the country. The draft, which is designed to guide the execution of the amended Ordinance on Foreign Exchange, requires FDI businesses and foreign investors involved in a business cooperation contract in Vietnam to open accounts at one of the banks licensed for foreign exchange transactions to serve their investment operations here in the nation. One of the noticeable points in the draft is those accounts should not necessarily be in foreign currency as currently regulated. This might be because in reality, foreign partners in Vietnam-foreign joint ventures have been able to contribute capital or take out loans in either Vietnam dong or foreign currency. This provision in the draft would open the way for FDI companies and international investors to use any legal funding sources in both dong and foreign currency to make capital contributions to domestic projects. If this came true, foreign investors could take a huge sigh of relief as life would be made much easier for them. However, if dong is used for capital contribution, FDI businesses or foreign investors involved in business cooperation contracts would be required to open their accounts in dong at the banks where they currently have foreign currency accounts to conduct legal transactions in dong. When they move their accounts from one bank to another, they would have to close their accounts at the current institution and transfer all the balance to their new accounts at the new banks. Source: SGT bit.ly/Ikg6ze

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Michael Parenti on JFK's Assassination

Episode 111: Dr. Michael Parenti talks 50 years since the JFK Assassination

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Five decades to the day since John F. Kennedy met his untimely demise, many questions remain unanswered; pieces of a puzzle never likely to be filled. An undoubtable fact however is that November 22nd, 1963 changed America forever – and to talk about it, Guy Evans enlisted the expertise of the prolific author and fiery lecturer Dr. Michael Parenti. Enjoy, share, and peace!

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Hillary Clinton's Achilles Heel

When will the truth finally come out on TWA Flight 800?

TWA 800 was one of the most outrageous governmental cover-ups ever until Obama came along and topped it with the Benghazi disaster, Fast and Furious, the IRS-supported presidential election fraud, the Extortion 17 set-up of SEAL Team Six for certain death, the IRS/NSA scandals, the Solyndra scandal, and many other scandals including the unfolding scam factory that is Obamacare.

I haven’t been counting carefully, but it seems like we are hearing of at least one new scandal, constitutional outrage or insult to the rule of law from this administration each and every day.

When will the American people decide that they have had enough?

DL

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Hillary Clinton's Achilles Heel

By Jack Cashill

On the night of July 17, 1996, President Bill Clinton and his wife Hillary attended a gala for the Women's Leadership Forum of the Democratic National Committee at the Sheraton Washington Hotel. We know this from the 11,000 pages of Hillary's schedule as first lady that the National Archives released in 2008.

At 8:35 that evening, after working the rope line, the Clintons left the Sheraton by presidential motorcade and headed back to the White House where they arrived at 8:45.

A 8:31 that same evening, two FAA veterans at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center observed a target arching and intersecting with the Paris-bound TWA Flight 800 as the 747 headed east off Long Island's south shore.

The controllers reported what they saw immediately. A manager from that center rushed the radar data to the FAA technical center in Atlantic City for further analysis.

In Atlantic City a playback of the data was recorded on videotape and plotted on to paper. From there, it was faxed to FAA headquarters in Washington and rushed "immediately" to the White House.

"Holy Christ, this looks bad," said Ron Schleede of the National Transportation Safety Board upon first seeing the data that "suggested something fast made the turn and took the airplane."

As he reported in his bestseller Against All Enemies, Clinton anti-terror czar Richard Clarke got the message, too. By 9 p.m., he was driving in to the White House to convene a meeting of his security group. He did not call such a meeting after the ValuJet crash two months earlier. Clarke was clearly worried.

"I dreaded what I thought was about to happen," he wrote, "The Eisenhower option." Had Iran been behind the downing of TWA Flight 800, the president would have had to respond. Two weeks later, in his monthly interview with historian Taylor Branch, President Clinton actually traced the seeming missile attack to Iran. "They want war," he told Branch.

When the Clintons returned to the White House that July 17 evening, they chose not to join Clarke and the other agency representatives in the White House situation room. Instead, they holed up in the family quarters, much as Obama did on the night of September 11, 2012.

Retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson has confirmed the same.  Patterson was in a position to know. He carried the nuclear football for the president, and he too was in the White House, though clearly out of the loop. The one person Patterson can tentatively cite as being in the family quarters with the Clintons was the always-reliable Sandy Berger, the deputy national security adviser.

By 3 a.m. the Clintons had apparently gathered enough information to call National Security Adviser Lake with the following message: "Dust off the contingency plans." Yes, the Eisenhower Option. But right now, especially on these terms, with the 1996 election comfortably in the bag, the Clintons no more wanted an international dust-up than Obama did in Benghazi in 2012.

Given that the destruction of TWA Flight 800 was the biggest news story of 1996 and almost took us to war with Iran, one would think that this incident would get serious attention in the Clintons' respective biographies. But the Clintons know how to keep secrets.

Hillary dedicated one-third of a sentence in her 500-plus page memoir, Living History, to the disaster. Bill gave it one small paragraph in his 900-plus page memoir, My Life. By contrast, he wrote more words about a June 1996 day in Albuquerque where he discussed that community's curfew program.

A year ago, there was little reason to believe that the truth would ever be told about the demise of the plane and the death of 230 innocent souls, but a new documentary released this summer, TWA Flight 800, got considerable press attention.  Even our reliably corrupt media found it hard to ignore the six high-level whistleblowers to a conspicuous cover-up.

TWA Flight 800 is now available on Netflix. The media will not follow-up. The NTSB will likely let the sleeping dogs sleep, but a Democratic primary opponent just might find it interesting enough to watch. We'll see.

Why ObamaCare is a Fantastic Success

                   "Never let a crisis go to waste!"     Rahm Emanuel      

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Why ObamaCare is a Fantastic Success
By Wayne Allyn Root
Published October 21, 2013
There are two major political parties in America. I’m a member of the naïve, stupid, and cowardly one. I’m a Republican.

How stupid is the GOP? They still don’t get it.

I told them 5 years ago, 2 books ago, a national bestseller ago ("The Ultimate Obama Survival Guide"), and in hundreds of articles and commentaries, that ObamaCare was never meant to help America, or heal the sick, or lower healthcare costs, or lower the debt, or expand the economy.

The GOP needs to stop calling ObamaCare a “trainwreck.” That means it’s a mistake, or accident. That means it’s a gigantic flop, or failure. It’s NOT.

This is a brilliant, cynical, and purposeful attempt to damage the U.S. economy, kill jobs, and bring down capitalism.

It’s not a failure, it’s Obama’s grand success.

It’s not a “trainwreck,” ObamaCare is a suicide attack. He wants to hurt us, to bring us to our knees, to capitulate- so we agree under duress to accept big government.

Obama’s hero and mentor was Saul Alinsky -- a radical Marxist intent on destroying capitalism. Alinksky’s stated advice was to call the other guy “a terrorist” to hide your own intentions.

To scream that the other guy is “ruining America,” while you are the one actually plotting the destruction of America. To claim again and again…in every sentence of every speech…that you are “saving the middle class,” while you are busy wiping out the middle class.

The GOP is so stupid they can’t see it. There are no mistakes here. This is a planned purposeful attack.
The tell-tale sign isn’t the disastrous start to ObamaCare. Or the devastating effect the new taxes are having on the economy. Or the death of full-time jobs. Or the overwhelming debt. Or the dramatic increases in health insurance rates. Or the 70% of doctors now thinking of retiring- brining on a healthcare crisis of unimaginable proportions. Forget all that.

The real sign that this is a purposeful attack upon capitalism is how many Obama administration members and Democratic Congressmen are openly calling Tea Party Republicans and anyone who wants to stop ObamaCare “terrorists.”

There’s the clue. Even the clueless GOP should be able to see that.

They are calling the reasonable people…the patriots…the people who believe in the Constitution ... the people who believe exactly what the Founding Fathers believed…the people who want to take power away from corrupt politicians who have put America $17 trillion in debt…terrorists?

That’s because they are Saul Alinsky-ing the GOP. The people trying to purposely hurt America, capitalism and the middle class…are calling the patriots by a terrible name to fool, confuse and distract the public.
ObamaCare is a raving, rollicking, fantastic success. Stop calling it a failure. Here is what it was created to do. It is succeeding on all counts:

1. ObamaCare was intended to bring about the Marxist dream -- redistribution of wealth.
Rich people, small business owners, and the middle class are being robbed, so that the money can be redistributed to poor people (who vote for Democrats
Think about it. If you’re rich or middle class, you now have to pay for your own health care costs (at much higher rates) AND 40 million other people’s costs too (through massive tax increases).
So you’re stuck paying for both bills. You are left broke. Brilliant.

2. ObamaCare was intended to wipe out the middle class and make them dependent on government.
Think about it. Even Obama’s IRS predicts that health insurance for a typical American family by 2016 will be $20,000 per year. But how would middle class Americans pay that bill and have anything left for food or housing or living? People that make $40K, or $50K, or $60K can’t possibly hope to spend $20K on health insurance without becoming homeless.
Bingo. That’s how you make middle class people dependent on government. That’s how you make everyone addicted to government checks. Brilliant.

3. As a bonus, ObamaCare is intended to kill every decent paying job in the economy, creating only crummy, crappy part-time jobs.
Why? Just to make sure the middle class is trapped, with no way out. Just to make sure no one has the $20,000 per year to pay for health insurance, thereby guaranteeing they become wards of the state. Brilliant.

4. ObamaCare is intended to bankrupt small business, and therefore starve donations to the Republicans.  Think about it. Do you know a small business owner? I know hundreds of them. Their rates are being doubled, tripled and quadrupled by ObamaCare.
Guess who writes 75% of the checks to Republican candidates and conservative causes? The GOP.
Even if a small business owner manages to survive, he or she certainly can’t write a big check to the GOP anymore. Money is the “mother’s milk” of politics. Without donations, a political party ceases to exist. Bingo.
That’s the point of ObamaCare. Obama is bankrupting his political opposition and drying up donations to the GOP. Brilliant.

5. ObamaCare is intended to make the IRS all-powerful.
It adds thousands of new IRS agents. It puts the IRS in charge of overseeing 15% of the U.S. economy. The IRS has the right because of ObamaCare to snoop into every aspect of your life, to go into your bank accounts, to fine you, to frighten you, to intimidate you. And Obama and his socialist cabal have access to your deepest medical secrets.
By law your doctor has to ask your sexual history. That information is now in the hands of Obama and the IRS to blackmail GOP candidates into either not running, or supporting bigger government, or leaking the info and ruining your campaign.
Or have you forgotten the IRS harassed, intimidated and persecuted critics of Obama and conservative groups?
Now Obama hands the IRS even more power. Big Brother rules our lives. Brilliant.

6. ObamaCare is intended to unionize 15 million healthcare workers.
That produces $15 billion in new union dues. That money goes to fund Democratic candidates and socialist causes -- thereby guaranteeing Obama’s friends never lose another election, and Obama’s policies keep ruining capitalism and bankrupting business owners long after he’s out of office.

Message to the GOP: This isn’t a game. This isn’t tiddly-winks. This is a serious, purposeful attempt to highjack America and destroy capitalism.

This isn’t a trainwreck. It's purposeful suicide.

It's not failing, it's working exactly according to plan. Obama knows what he’s doing. Stop apologizing and start fighting.

Oh and one more thing…Conservatives aren’t “terrorists.” We are patriots and saviors. We represent the Constitution and the Founding Fathers. We are the heroes and good guys. Unless you get all this through your thick skulls, America is lost…forever.

Smirking About Inevitable Obozocare FAIL? Remember That In Politics And Economics,--Nothing Happens By Accident

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Smirking About Inevitable Obozocare FAIL? Remember That In Politics And Economics,--Nothing Happens By Accident

Posted By: Watchman
Date: Friday, 22-Nov-2013 15:32:56

I am convinced that the Obozocare debacle was planned to happen just as it has. It was Meant to fail, as it is now happening. Bear with me... This nightmare that has caused untold hardships on millions of people, small and large businesses and has lined the pockets of thousands of low life supporters is just the latest case of thr Hegelian Dialectic to be forced on the country. Insurance companies, which represent a support bastion of the financial industry with their investments, which they must profit in or lose their shirt, have been forced to cancel untold millions of policies, and now, of course, the companies cannot renew the policies without considerable losses. Know that the income stream for these companies is down and decreasing rapidly. The people who need insurance as well as the doctors who provide the service are finding workarounds in the cash market. So the main effect is to tank the economy. People and Businesses who depended on delivery and distribution of goods and services will find empty shelves and minimum revenue. The whole ides was to tank the economy of the US. They are succeeding brilliantly. So now that the problem has been exposed, we are left with the reaction which is now in it's infancy, and is sure to escalate, and further destroy millions of lives. The solution will be to destroy the "problem with a solution which we can only anticipate with horror. The most obvious one is that the government will take care of us with money they don't have, but promises galore until the camp gates are locked and barred. It is surely coming, and it will be one for the ages. The stone age, to be precise.